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[LolaLei]

Bahaha now I'm thinking of Cullen in a black wig!

[ladyshamen]

I would think that Cullen is his first name. It seems like Templars use rank/title, then first name. Meredith,Gregoir, Keran, ect. That's just IMO.
Thanks Samara! You sound like one busy person. And I'm for 'option 2' also.

[LolaLei]

I'd like to think his name is just "Cullen" it adds a little mystery to him if he doesn't have a surname. Plus added tragedy if he has no family... Our new protagonist will be all he has, the first person ever to love him... My gawd that's so evil of me lol. Poor Cullen.

[SamaraDraven]

ladyshamen wrote...

I would think that Cullen is his first name. It seems like Templars use rank/title, then first name. Meredith,Gregoir, Keran, ect. That's just IMO.
Thanks Samara! You sound like one busy person. And I'm for 'option 2' also.

You're welcome.

Yeah they do seem to use first names. But it also seems like Chantry bastards aren't given a surname so in their case, even if they used last names, the kids without a family would still use the name they have. I could be wrong but it just seems that way to me. To be honest, I just couldn't imagine Cullen's name being something else after all this time. It'd be too weird to find out Cullen is his last name and calling him something else for the first name.

I try to stay busy. Sometimes my head is so full of ideas, I just sit in front of my PC and drool on myself. lol!

As for option 2, I like it but I think I like the idea of a magister stumbling on abandoned Cullen instead of a Qunari. But I think I'll change the parent's gender that casts him out, make it his mother who dallied with an elf.

DUUUUDE! What if the same elf that fathered Fenris fathered Cullen?!?!?!?! It could be the same with the mother but maaaaan! Major mind phuk.

Ok. I'm NOT doing that! But I temporarily blew my own mind. lmao! Myabe I'll go back to it being the father who dallied with an elven woman. It's just been done before so I wanted to change it up but not at the risk of producing crack!

LolaLei wrote...
Bahaha now I'm thinking of Cullen in a black wig!

So very very wrong...  Greg could probably pull off some of Cher's tunes, too.

Modifié par SamaraDraven, 27 avril 2012 - 10:51 .

[LolaLei]

LOL! He totally would as well!

[R2s Muse]

Samara, sounds like a fun story! I like the 'Cullen as snowflake' idea, for all the reasons you mentioned. Especially since he seems like such a regular guy, the switch will be interesting. The 'abandoned as child' idea definitely lends itself to the snowflake specialness as well since it suggests he was abandoned for "reasons."

You could potentially also have the 'parents died' idea if it was a male magister who knocked up an elf, and after he thought Cullen had no magic, he just threw them both out. Then mom dies of the usual Disney-fied mom-dying reason somewhere, and Cullen is left to fend for himself. Anyhoo, just brainstorming off your awesome idea! Love that you're picking up that story again! Yay!

And, yeah, as far as I know, no last name. I'd never even considered that Cullen might be a last name, but agree with others that it makes more sense to be his first. I always figured no family name meant he was some kind of foundling as well, but it seems half of the DA characters don't have last names, so who knows! Another question for DG!

[R2s Muse]

Ack, no pics on this page. A new one by ZelenayaKoshka

Modifié par R2s Muse, 27 avril 2012 - 11:13 .

[VampOrchid]

Usually someone with out titles didn't really have a last name. So we can assume that Cullen's name is just "Cullen" and that he was probably orphaned or 'donated' to the chantry, therefore losing any titles he could have had, along with a family name.

[R2s Muse]

SamaraDraven wrote...

LolaLei wrote...
Bahaha now I'm thinking of Cullen in a black wig!

So very very wrong...  Greg could probably pull off some of Cher's tunes, too.

OH. MY.

WANT. THIS. LOL

You know, why isn't he singing in any fic I've read... ? D'oh, sounds like a new moral imperative.

[meanieweenie]

Now I can't get "Gypsies Tramps and Thieves" out of my head...

[LolaLei]

I like the idea that he actually remembers his parents dying or abandoning him and him blaming himself, perhaps as another reason why he doesn't let people close to him. It would add to the drama for non-Mage characters in the game too.

[SamaraDraven]

R2s Muse wrote...

SamaraDraven wrote...

LolaLei wrote...
Bahaha now I'm thinking of Cullen in a black wig!

So very very wrong...  Greg could probably pull off some of Cher's tunes, too.

OH. MY.

WANT. THIS. LOL

You know, why isn't he singing in any fic I've read... ? D'oh, sounds like a new moral imperative.

Oh Maker! My other fic has a new cousin of Hawke in it who is a templar and sings. Why didn't I think of having it be Cullen? The temptation is too much!

Thanks for your feedback about my ideas. I think what I've decided thus far is that Cullen was sired my a magister who wanted a mage heir and he used an elf that had minimal ability, thinking it would ensure a magically gifted baby. But when Cullen was close to 4 the father tested him for magic and instead discovered he wasn't a mage. In fact he was a born templar. What that meant was that he already had templar talents without training or lyrium. Knowing he couldn't kill the child outright, the father took him out into a wooded area and left him there. But another magister found him and took him in for a time.

When he had to travel to Ferelden to meet someone in Denerim, he took Cullen with him for blood power because he was very small. In Denerim things went sideways for Cullen's... "master", for lack of a better word, and when the magister tried to use Cullen's blood he found himself weakened and his opponent killed him, leaving Cullen to die too. But he didn't die.

Some kids stumbled onto him when they went to loot the dead magister's body (I'll even go so far as to say one of the teenagers was a mage who healed him but he doesn't rememeber it) and stayed with them for many years, living on the streets.

Then came a day when he tried to steal food for himself and his friends from the Chantry kitchen and he was caught. The promise of food for the others had him agreeing to make restitution at the Chantry as a scullery boy for a season, rather than face the Arl for judgement. During his time at the Chantry, he found himself more and more reluctant to leave and when he saw templars confront an evil mage, he suddenly knew he had to be a knight and asked to become a brother in the Chantry.

The knight he saw in Denerim that inspired him the most was Knight Captain Greagoir.

So what you think?

[LolaLei]

Sounds awesome.

Here's a question for everyone. Do you suppose they'll actually have Cullen sing at some point in DA3? Knowing that Greg Ellis is a professional singer, do you suppose they'll incorporate it into the game for ****s and giggles?

I mean, we had Leliana singing in DA:O, so you never know maybe for a laugh our protagonist will catch him singing to himself whilst tipsy or he'll have to perform a little song at an Orlesian ball as a distraction technique or something?

If you were going to have him sing in the game, how would you incorporate it? Or would not have him sing at all because it's a bit cheesy?

[SamaraDraven]

I think having Cullen sing would be fanservice, really. It is a cheesy idea because Cullen's not known for being the type who might sing. At least in my mind it seems that way. If they did it, I hope they try very very very hard to do it tastefully. And I can only really see it being realistic if it was for like a religious function in the Chantry or a funeral thing. If they spent time developing Cullen's story and personality more and incorporate it in bits, that might work too. Leliana had a habit of humming and being a bard, you kind of expected her to be able to sing and for it be important to who she is. She had a whole chain of abilities under the Bard specialty. I guess I kind of took it for granted that she sings. and I take it for granted that Cullen doesn't. They'd be treading some unsteady ground to go there with him. Which is a shame. Since we now know GE can sing, it seems like a wasted opportunity that Cullen wasn't written with that ability in mind.

Modifié par SamaraDraven, 28 avril 2012 - 12:55 .

[R2s Muse]

SamaraDraven wrote...

I think having Cullen sing would be fanservice, really. It is a cheesy idea because Cullen's not known for being the type who might sing. At least in my mind it seems that way. If they did it, I hope they try very very very hard to do it tastefully. And I can only really see it being realistic if it was for like a religious function in the Chantry or a funeral thing. If they spent time developing Cullen's story and personality more and incorporate it in bits, that might work too. Leliana had a habit of humming and being a bard, you kind of expected her to be able to sing and for it be important to who she is. She had a whole chain of abilities under the Bard specialty. I guess I kind of took it for granted that she sings. and I take it for granted that Cullen doesn't. They'd be treading some unsteady ground to go there with him. Which is a shame. Since we now know GE can sing, it seems like a wasted opportunity that Cullen wasn't written with that ability in mind.

This. Unfortunately, I actually found Leliana's singing sort of peculiar in the game, and that even followed from her being a bard. I think it would be hard to make it seem natural. Sadly. 

But know what, yup, adding it to new fic. Some how I gotta make it work!

[R2s Muse]

@Samara, sounds good. Advantage of him being 'born Templar' is that it sounds like no lyrium addiction? Also, is the idea of the second magister that he takes Cullen as a slave? I wonder how much of all that he would remember from age 4, tho...

[VampOrchid]

Uhm, so I have about 5 chapters, 6 most left to my current fic. But I'm running out of steam for it right now lol. Would anyone consider it evil if I start my other one while waiting for the creative juices to ferment? lol

[SamaraDraven]

R2s Muse wrote...

@Samara, sounds good. Advantage of him being 'born Templar' is that it sounds like no lyrium addiction? Also, is the idea of the second magister that he takes Cullen as a slave? I wonder how much of all that he would remember from age 4, tho...

I am making Cullen the "Special Snowflake" in my fic. I'm kinda tired of seeing Hawke as always being the one with a special exception or ability. So I'm  making Cullen the "Special Snowflake". {smilie}

The idea of him being a born templar stems from him being descended from something I'm making up: The Disciples. The idea goes that Andraste imparted abilities on her most faithful followers, the Disciples and he's descended from one. They have abilities without lyrium, Cullen just doesn't know it yet. So theoretically he has a better chance of surviving lyrium withdrawal. And he's never seemed to need it as much as other knights, much to his eternal befuddlement. {smilie}

The second magister takes Cullen as a slave because free slave you know? But he doesn't know why Cullen's been cast out and Cullen doesn't tell him because he doesn't understand either. So the magister takes him and travels with him and makes the mistake of using him. Cullen's natural born talents are in his blood too and the magister essentially consumes templar will, leaving him unable to cast magic.  He doesn't remember any of this except in snippets during dreams. He remembers the older kids helping in the days after they found him.

[meanieweenie]

VampOrchid wrote...

Uhm, so I have about 5 chapters, 6 most left to my current fic. But I'm running out of steam for it right now lol. Would anyone consider it evil if I start my other one while waiting for the creative juices to ferment? lol

Nope. Whatever it takes, I say.

[Dunquixote]

Crisium, this fanfic writer made the suggestion in her story the Greagoir was Cullen's father and Wynne was his mother. From Dragon Age wikia, it says that Wynne's son is Rhys, but I haven't read anything about the father. Any comments?

[VampOrchid]

meanieweenie wrote...

VampOrchid wrote...

Uhm, so I have about 5 chapters, 6 most left to my current fic. But I'm running out of steam for it right now lol. Would anyone consider it evil if I start my other one while waiting for the creative juices to ferment? lol

Nope. Whatever it takes, I say.

LOL

Funniest thing is this. I have the other chapters written...but they don't 'feel' write. So I don't post them. That's my motto lol

[VampOrchid]

Dunquixote wrote...

Crisium, this fanfic writer made the suggestion in her story the Greagoir was Cullen's father and Wynne was his mother. From Dragon Age wikia, it says that Wynne's son is Rhys, but I haven't read anything about the father. Any comments?

It was just a fun twist she put on things to add to the story. I've actually seen a few other authors use the same father/mother story line for him with that pairing as well. It doesn't mean that it couldn't have happened, but it also doesn't mean it did

But I thought it was clever.

[meanieweenie]

Dunquixote wrote...

Crisium, this fanfic writer made the suggestion in her story the Greagoir was Cullen's father and Wynne was his mother. From Dragon Age wikia, it says that Wynne's son is Rhys, but I haven't read anything about the father. Any comments?

You'll have to read Asunder to find out who Rhys' father is.  It's actually a pretty quick read. I finished it in 3 days.

[R2s Muse]

Dunquixote wrote...

Crisium, this fanfic writer made the suggestion in her story the Greagoir was Cullen's father and Wynne was his mother. From Dragon Age wikia, it says that Wynne's son is Rhys, but I haven't read anything about the father. Any comments?

That was revealed in Asunder. All Wynne would say was that he was a templar. It would be fun if it was Greagoir. I liked him.

Edit: D'oh sorry if that was a spoiler..? Meanie, I didn't think they actually named him...?

Modifié par R2s Muse, 28 avril 2012 - 02:12 .

[Dunquixote]

hopefully I'll find it at barnes and nobles sunday if my mom takes me .

I like Greagoir; I don't know why. 

I just assumed she wrote the story sometime before Dragon II and before Asunder was released.  

Don't worry.  I'd still enjoy it even if that was a spoiler, since there's no way of really avoiding spoilers when curiosity gets the best of me

Modifié par Dunquixote, 28 avril 2012 - 02:12 .