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LolaLei wrote...

You're right, it is facing upwards like the DA:O Templar insignia! That's an interesting concept about him possibly rebelling by wearing it the other way up. Perhaps he was so ashamed of serving with the Kirkwall Templars, that he literally went back to his roots and went retro LOL! Or maybe it was a keep sake from his time in the Ferelden circle, so he decided to wear it? Either way, it's nice to see him in something with a little more personality.

There's another design on his other flappy bit, but the white box covers it up. Made me wonder if it was the Inquisition symbol.


Hrm...I don't really think that's another design. There's just a bit of it cut off with the white box, and the majority of it just looks like a line. Maybe just a piece of cloth or leather? *busts out magnifying glass* 

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Whatever they do with Cullen, assuming he becomes a companion (big assumption there), I hope there is nuance added to his character. I don't want another Anders or Fenris. Not that those characters didn't make sense; they did (although I wish Fenris at least could be convinced to lessen his hatred of magic ... actually, I think he does, but it isn't explicitly shown or stated, just one more example of a rushed game perhaps... whereas Anders makes perfect sense as a zealot thanks to Justice).

I don't want Cullen to be a hard-liner against mages, but I have this sneaking suspicion that he will be, that he may even leave the party at one point (so many people beotching about having "choices that matter" could result in something like that happening) if the PC becomes too pro-mage.

I wouldn't mind Cullen starting out as being very hard-lined, but I want the ability to persuade him over to my side (or, of course, join him and encourage his distrust of mages and loyalty to the templars, if that's how I choose to play).

I just feel since the devs seem to joke sometimes about torturing us players (especially us Cullen fans, knowing we love him) that they are gonna kinda troll us by making our favorite templar just a not-very-nice guy!

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Nikki: it's like a yellowish white line (possibly gold) then it sticks out slightly to the left and there's another wiggly line next to that. I thought maybe it was another Templar insignia but it doesn't look like the right shape be up or down.

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LolaLei wrote...

Nikki: it's like a yellowish white line (possibly gold) then it sticks out slightly to the left and there's another wiggly line next to that. I thought maybe it was another Templar insignia but it doesn't look like the right shape be up or down.


Yea, I think it's just part of his jacket-ish thing. The outline of it is the same color as that line. 

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MMG: Mostly I hope he won't be too serious/broody all the time. I know he's had a rough ride, but I'd like to think that whilst he's running around with the protagonist 'n' co he'd be a little more chirpy since he'll be out in the world with company experiencing new things etc.

Of course, I don't expect him to be the groups joker or anything, but I'd hope he'd be able to take a joke and not get a complete arse on when teased about something or go on about the Templars plight/his issues constantly lol.

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motomotogirl wrote...

Whatever they do with Cullen, assuming he becomes a companion (big assumption there), I hope there is nuance added to his character. I don't want another Anders or Fenris. Not that those characters didn't make sense; they did (although I wish Fenris at least could be convinced to lessen his hatred of magic ... actually, I think he does, but it isn't explicitly shown or stated, just one more example of a rushed game perhaps... whereas Anders makes perfect sense as a zealot thanks to Justice).

I don't want Cullen to be a hard-liner against mages, but I have this sneaking suspicion that he will be, that he may even leave the party at one point (so many people beotching about having "choices that matter" could result in something like that happening) if the PC becomes too pro-mage.

I wouldn't mind Cullen starting out as being very hard-lined, but I want the ability to persuade him over to my side (or, of course, join him and encourage his distrust of mages and loyalty to the templars, if that's how I choose to play).

I just feel since the devs seem to joke sometimes about torturing us players (especially us Cullen fans, knowing we love him) that they are gonna kinda troll us by making our favorite templar just a not-very-nice guy!


I like the shades of grey that our companions mostly occupy. I would hate for all my followers to just be Yes Men, and agree with everything I make my PC do. Fenris comments, even in the rivalry path, that MageHawke is the only mage that he really respects. He says it during one of the party banters very quickly. 

I doubt Cullen will ever be pro-mage, but I can easily see him as understanding their side a bit better. Maybe learning to sympathise again with the unfortunate mages that get lumped into the "all magic is evil" group due to the extremist. 

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I always wondered why the Templar insignia was facing different directions in DA:O & DA2, was it really a regional difference like you mentioned or just a design choice on the part of the devs?

Modifié par charlottecorday, 19 novembre 2012 - 03:54 .


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Soooo what happens if it turns out that Cullen is a companion/LI and he's a gentleman? How strange would that be watching him being all... Gentlemanly lol.

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LolaLei wrote...

Soooo what happens if it turns out that Cullen is a companion/LI and he's a gentleman? How strange would that be watching him being all... Gentlemanly lol.


PC: What are you doing?

Cullen: Um...holding the door open for you? 

PC: :blink: What is wrong with you!?! *stomps off* Pervert! 

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littlenikki wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Soooo what happens if it turns out that Cullen is a companion/LI and he's a gentleman? How strange would that be watching him being all... Gentlemanly lol.


PC: What are you doing?

Cullen: Um...holding the door open for you? 

PC: :blink: What is wrong with you!?! *stomps off* Pervert! 


"Holding the door open for me? What do you think this is, the Blessed age? Sheesh."

Modifié par LolaLei, 19 novembre 2012 - 04:23 .


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littlenikki wrote...

I would hate for all my followers to just be Yes Men, and agree with everything I make my PC do. Fenris comments, even in the rivalry path, that MageHawke is the only mage that he really respects. He says it during one of the party banters very quickly. 


I don't want them to be Yes Men either. I also don't want them to be No Men. 

Companion: I HATE MAGES!!!
PC: But look at this poor girl, she didn't mean...
Companion: NOOO, MAGES BAD!!
PC: But..
Companion: LALALALA NOT LISTENING, MAGES BAD!

I want them to be more like... "I don't really agree with you on this, but I can see where you're coming from." Is that so much to ask, BW lol (I kid, BW, you done pretty good so far; again, I get why Anders and Fenris are the way they are.)

I don't have the heart to rival Fenris lol Yeah he trusts Hawke or Bethany. And he agrees to help Hawke defend the mages at the end. But there could have been a bit more in my opinion. How did he arrive at that conclusion? Maybe just something in conversation: "I know I seem hard on mages, Hawke. But you know why I feel the way I feel. I am what I am. *hesitates, after a second* But I can admit that you are not all likely to give in to temptation. I've followed you for six years, and you ... seem to be a person of honor..." yadda yadda yadda lol

Now that transfer that whole conversation over to Cullen in DA3...

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LolaLei wrote...

Soooo what happens if it turns out that Cullen is a companion/LI and he's a gentleman? How strange would that be watching him being all... Gentlemanly lol.


Hmm I already think of him as a gentleman. This scene comes to mind:

Macha: Keran's pay is so small... I'm not sure I can pay you what you deserve (to paraphrase)
Cullen: *gallantly steps forward* I can handle that, Miss.

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Omg writing my next chapter for my fic...and I don't know if it's from being in here or what...but it's bad lol. In a mental torture kind of way lol

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motomotogirl wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Soooo what happens if it turns out that Cullen is a companion/LI and he's a gentleman? How strange would that be watching him being all... Gentlemanly lol.


Hmm I already think of him as a gentleman. This scene comes to mind:

Macha: Keran's pay is so small... I'm not sure I can pay you what you deserve (to paraphrase)
Cullen: *gallantly steps forward* I can handle that, Miss.


True, but that was in a professional manner. I'd wanna see what he'd be like doing his gentlemanly things in everyday non-work related situations, especially if he's crushing on our protagonist.

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motomotogirl wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Soooo what happens if it turns out that Cullen is a companion/LI and he's a gentleman? How strange would that be watching him being all... Gentlemanly lol.


Hmm I already think of him as a gentleman. This scene comes to mind:

Macha: Keran's pay is so small... I'm not sure I can pay you what you deserve (to paraphrase)
Cullen: *gallantly steps forward* I can handle that, Miss.


Hawke: I think now is a good time to mention I only take payment in the form of sexual favors :wub: C'mere Cullen!

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LolaLei wrote...

True, but that was in a professional manner. I'd wanna see what he'd be like doing his gentlemanly things in everyday non-work related situations, especially if he's crushing on our protagonist.


Yes I wonder if he would treat her the same way. (Depends... I think he'd be more gallant with a mage, more "equal partners" with a soldier.) I wonder if he would treat a male crush the same way (I've got nothing to fall back on to have even the faintest idea as to how he'd treat another guy).

It would be cool if the PC could get jealous over him acting all gentlemanly to a female party member :P

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littlenikki wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Soooo what happens if it turns out that Cullen is a companion/LI and he's a gentleman? How strange would that be watching him being all... Gentlemanly lol.


Hmm I already think of him as a gentleman. This scene comes to mind:

Macha: Keran's pay is so small... I'm not sure I can pay you what you deserve (to paraphrase)
Cullen: *gallantly steps forward* I can handle that, Miss.


Hawke: I think now is a good time to mention I only take payment in the form of sexual favors :wub: C'mere Cullen!


BioWare, WHY WAS THIS NOT AN OPTION :o

Modifié par motomotogirl, 19 novembre 2012 - 04:55 .


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That's something I missed in DA2, not being able to flirt with or charm almost everyone. I swear in DA:O you could try to seduce almost everyone just for the hell of it!

Modifié par LolaLei, 19 novembre 2012 - 05:21 .


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LolaLei wrote...

That's something I missed in DA2, not being able to flirt with or charm almost everyone. I swear in DA:O you could try to seduce almost everyone just for the hell of it!


I was just waiting for that little <3 option to show up in every single conversation my Hawke had with Cullen. So many missed opportunities! 

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You could flirt with Feynriel's girlfriend. I was like, why would you?! o.O She was kind of a dog lol

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You could flirt with Feynriel's girlfriend. I was like, why would you?! o.O She was kind of a dog lol


Wait, Feynriel had a girlfriend?? Who was that? And how did I manage to miss it!

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LolaLei wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

You could flirt with Feynriel's girlfriend. I was like, why would you?! o.O She was kind of a dog lol


Wait, Feynriel had a girlfriend?? Who was that? And how did I manage to miss it!


Yeah in Act 3 you go to "rescue" this girl who ran away from home, only to find she was running away to meet "her love," Feynriel. She was accosted by some men who wanted to take her "maidenhood" (lol) but she swooned... and when she woke up, all the men had turned on each other and killed one another. 

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motomotogirl wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

You could flirt with Feynriel's girlfriend. I was like, why would you?! o.O She was kind of a dog lol


Wait, Feynriel had a girlfriend?? Who was that? And how did I manage to miss it!


Yeah in Act 3 you go to "rescue" this girl who ran away from home, only to find she was running away to meet "her love," Feynriel. She was accosted by some men who wanted to take her "maidenhood" (lol) but she swooned... and when she woke up, all the men had turned on each other and killed one another. 


Actually Fen rescued her. He was a very rare mage that had the ability to go in people's minds.  She passed out and saw him a vision/Fade and he got the men to kill each other.

I dont think they were boyfriend/girlfriend. :D

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I dont think they were boyfriend/girlfriend. :D


Maybe not, but she was definitely enamored with Feynriel :P

As for Cullen's behavior in a romance, personally I find all the awkward stumbling around In Alistair and Garrus's romances to be endearing, even if I occasionally want to clock them upside the head.  I'd like to see at least some of Cullen's inexperience with relationships turn up in the romance, preferably along with hilarious dialogue.

On the other hand, that might smack too much of Alistair.  Awkward human male LI with templar training?

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littlenikki wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Soooo what happens if it turns out that Cullen is a companion/LI and he's a gentleman? How strange would that be watching him being all... Gentlemanly lol.


PC: What are you doing?

Cullen: Um...holding the door open for you? 

PC: :blink: What is wrong with you!?! *stomps off* Pervert! 

LOL This is awesome. I totally see him being a gentleman, sorta like Alistair's sensibilities toward women... but without the jokiness. It would be hilarious for the PC to get jealous if he does that sorta thing (holds door, drapes cloak over puddle) for someone else...  and he's totally baffled by her reaction. That would be cute.  It could dovetail with what we've talked about with him only really knowing about relationships from books... ahem. But this time perhaps his knowledge is only based on the courtly love tales as opposed to the more salacious ones. LOL

PC: Cullen, what are doing? You know I've been waiting for you...

C: Um... nothing...

PC: Are  you... writing something?

C: Erm, perhaps. *PC snatches it away* Hey!

PC: Cullen, what is this?? A... a... poem??

C: *blushes* S-sort of.

PC: So... when I invited you to, erm, stop by my tent earlier and you said you were busy, it was because of THIS?

C: . . .

PC: So instead of *spending*time* with me, you would rather... what? read me a poem?

C: Weeeelll, I... I was actually going to sing it...

PC: . . .

PC: In my tent, ten minutes! . . . Bring the poem.

edit: LOL :ph34r:'d by Sable! Yeah, agree that there are overtones of Alistair, but without Alistair's natural tendency to joke about everything, it still could be new and endearing. Particularly if Cullen seems out of his depth with relationships, but so emininently capable and professional in everything else.

Modifié par R2s Muse, 19 novembre 2012 - 12:36 .