Lol with Cullen for a Templar who wouldn't want to stay in the circle! I was watching the Mage origins on YouTube a little while back, I love how you catch those two ****y Apprentice Mages talking about our characters Harrowing and how Cullen had said that it was the quickest Harrowing he'd ever seen and that he was proud of her or something like that, it was so cute, the two girls actually sound jealous of the attention he pays her.
I had totally forgotten how down to earth and openly kind he was in the beginning of DA:O, especially considering how cold he acts towards you after the Broken Circle quest and the professional manner he adopts when talking to Hawke in DA2, you only ever catch small glimpses of his personality on occasion, like when he reminisces about Amell, or when he expresses his concern about Feynriel if you send him to the circle instead of helping him. I really hope we get to explore his personality in DA3 if he's made a companion/LI, I'd love to see the kind, caring Cullen come out from behind his cold Templar exterior... We all know it's just a barrier he put up after being hurt so badly.
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Posté 30 avril 2012 - 03:27
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I've been struggling to finish the Calling so that I can go ahead and post my new short story without any lore showstoppers. Ah, I'm at 82%, so almost there!!
You know, as I read my second Dragon Age novel, I'm struck again by two things. First, is how useful the books are for fanfic writers, since you finally get to see a "real world" description of gameplay that isn't solely based on clicking spell buttons and video-card-limited visual effects. I get a much better sense of, for example, the nature of the darkspawn corruption than just seeing the goo on the walls of the Deep Roads.
Second, is how much more the heroes get their butts kicked than in the game.I don't expect them to be superheroes, but they get so much more beat up -- without in-battle healing, mind you -- than I imagine from my own gameplay experience. I know the canonical wisdom is that you need to hurt your characters to up the stakes, but I find myself scoffing at these characters' skills sometimes.
LOL
Anyone else have a similar impression?
I love getting the wordy descriptions on on everything from environments to magical energy.
To the other thing, I totally had that impression when I read Asunder. At the end when one of the main characters was dying, I actually said aloud, "Why was she not lifewarded??"
/facepalm
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Posté 30 avril 2012 - 03:47
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Hi.
I've lurked here on and off for a couple of months, mostly becasue I'm active elsewhere in on the net (dreamwidth, tumblr, and livejournal's da kinkmeme). Just saying hello to fellow Cullen fans. He's one of my favorite characters out of the entire DA:O and DA2 cast.
Not much else to say but, as a way of introduction, here are my cullen tagged posts on dreamwidith (dw tagged as cullen - mostly headcanon) and on tumblr (random thoughts, squee, reblogs).
And, here's a little Cullen for this page because surely all of this text without Cullen is boring. :innocent:
I've lurked here on and off for a couple of months, mostly becasue I'm active elsewhere in on the net (dreamwidth, tumblr, and livejournal's da kinkmeme). Just saying hello to fellow Cullen fans. He's one of my favorite characters out of the entire DA:O and DA2 cast.
Not much else to say but, as a way of introduction, here are my cullen tagged posts on dreamwidith (dw tagged as cullen - mostly headcanon) and on tumblr (random thoughts, squee, reblogs).
And, here's a little Cullen for this page because surely all of this text without Cullen is boring. :innocent:
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Posté 30 avril 2012 - 04:29
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vieralynn wrote...
Hi.
I've lurked here on and off for a couple of months, mostly becasue I'm active elsewhere in on the net (dreamwidth, tumblr, and livejournal's da kinkmeme). Just saying hello to fellow Cullen fans. He's one of my favorite characters out of the entire DA:O and DA2 cast.
Not much else to say but, as a way of introduction, here are my cullen tagged posts on dreamwidith (dw tagged as cullen - mostly headcanon) and on tumblr (random thoughts, squee, reblogs).
And, here's a little Cullen for this page because surely all of this text without Cullen is boring. :innocent:
Hey there! Welcome back after all that hiding!
I agree: Cullen is one of the more dynamic characters of DA. The love of him is undertstandable.
You're right. All that text without Cullen is boring and I do like that pic.
Thank you. Sadly I don't have any caps myself so I just stare at the pretties everyone else posts.
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Posté 30 avril 2012 - 04:49
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I don't understand what someone in the DA 3 possible companions/romances made this 
at the suggestion of having Cullen as a romanceable companion. I like hearing people's different opinions, but I would like to know a reason why? You don't have to like him, but why that particular face. I would understand it if she was looking at it in my character's point of view -- how he puts duty and his rank over love. There are probably many reasons. I would like to know her reason so I can examine his character more closely so maybe I have a better understanding of him, rather than having a bias one.=/ Of course, I don't know if I'm better when I talk about how much of a **** Isabella is. I mean I say, I hate her selfishness and her appearance didn't really impress me either. I try to avoid using smilies like that though.
at the suggestion of having Cullen as a romanceable companion. I like hearing people's different opinions, but I would like to know a reason why? You don't have to like him, but why that particular face. I would understand it if she was looking at it in my character's point of view -- how he puts duty and his rank over love. There are probably many reasons. I would like to know her reason so I can examine his character more closely so maybe I have a better understanding of him, rather than having a bias one.=/ Of course, I don't know if I'm better when I talk about how much of a **** Isabella is. I mean I say, I hate her selfishness and her appearance didn't really impress me either. I try to avoid using smilies like that though.
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Posté 30 avril 2012 - 05:28
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The smiley is just a short hand way of saying what you think or feel about something. In this case, the idea of having Cullen as a companion/LI makes her/him sick. They could be tired of hearing the Cullen fangirls go on about it. That could be what she/he means. Or maybe the person meant that she/he doesn't like idea.
Not everyone was endeared by Cullen. Not everyone found his stuttering cute. The fact that he said he would have done his duty if he had to, though it would break his heart struck some as creepy instead of sweet. I mean how many girls want to hear, "I didn't want to have to kill you but I would have"? Then he was pretty hateful against mages in general, didn't want to try for their sake but kill them all instead. He later uses the Broken Circle quest as an argument against killing the surrendered mages in DA2 when he himself wasn't all for it at the time. It seems hypocritical of him.
Then there's the epilogue in DAO where there was templar rumored to be Cullen who had gone mad and was killing mages. it's never been clear (at least not to me) whether or not it was him, but many drew that conclusion anyway. So he went from kinda dorky, to a bit loony to full on psycho. That journey, in some people's minds, made him too cracked to be trusted or do anything with besides put him out of his misery. The fact that he says some pretty harsh things against mages at the beginning of DA2 doesn't help matters. A lot of gamers forgot that, for him the abuses he suffered at the hands of those mages was mere months prior to his appearance in Kirkwall and that his comments are really leagues better than his "Kill 'em all!" stance after Broken Circle. All of this together makes him a creepy, dangerous person.
Not everyone learned to like him. And some refuse to remember that the codex wasn't clear on if Cullen WAS the psycho Templar or that he had real reasons, recent reasons to be wary of mages. So to many of those who do not like Cullen, we who do seem like we're off our rocker. And rather than choose to simply shrug and say "To each their own" they are so appalled anyone can want the character around more and as an LI, no less, that they are sickened by it. If they're simply just tired of hearing about it, they're being rude and will just have to buck up and you should just ignore them.
Sorry if I got too preachy. I just figured I'd share my POV because I didn't always like Cullen either. He grew on me. Most especially when I played as a mage Origin. But then I thought he wents nuts and homicidal. When I saw him DA2, I was like "If he went all vengeance on mages, why hasn't the Order discharged him? How can they trust him to watch over mages? Hell, at the very least, even if they can't pin the murders on him, he should be in deep doo for abadoning his post for weeks at a time."
Then I went back through DAO as another mage and didn't find anything that said it was a fact that he WAS the one, just that it made seem like it COULD be him. After taking that away, I suddnely found I had no reason not to sympathize with him and found his crush on Amell so cute! I guess I just really wanted to like him! lol! But at first, I resented that he wanted to kill my husband's mage, which is the first time I saw him because I hadn't done my own mage yet and missed Frank's origin story.
Not everyone was endeared by Cullen. Not everyone found his stuttering cute. The fact that he said he would have done his duty if he had to, though it would break his heart struck some as creepy instead of sweet. I mean how many girls want to hear, "I didn't want to have to kill you but I would have"? Then he was pretty hateful against mages in general, didn't want to try for their sake but kill them all instead. He later uses the Broken Circle quest as an argument against killing the surrendered mages in DA2 when he himself wasn't all for it at the time. It seems hypocritical of him.
Then there's the epilogue in DAO where there was templar rumored to be Cullen who had gone mad and was killing mages. it's never been clear (at least not to me) whether or not it was him, but many drew that conclusion anyway. So he went from kinda dorky, to a bit loony to full on psycho. That journey, in some people's minds, made him too cracked to be trusted or do anything with besides put him out of his misery. The fact that he says some pretty harsh things against mages at the beginning of DA2 doesn't help matters. A lot of gamers forgot that, for him the abuses he suffered at the hands of those mages was mere months prior to his appearance in Kirkwall and that his comments are really leagues better than his "Kill 'em all!" stance after Broken Circle. All of this together makes him a creepy, dangerous person.
Not everyone learned to like him. And some refuse to remember that the codex wasn't clear on if Cullen WAS the psycho Templar or that he had real reasons, recent reasons to be wary of mages. So to many of those who do not like Cullen, we who do seem like we're off our rocker. And rather than choose to simply shrug and say "To each their own" they are so appalled anyone can want the character around more and as an LI, no less, that they are sickened by it. If they're simply just tired of hearing about it, they're being rude and will just have to buck up and you should just ignore them.
Sorry if I got too preachy. I just figured I'd share my POV because I didn't always like Cullen either. He grew on me. Most especially when I played as a mage Origin. But then I thought he wents nuts and homicidal. When I saw him DA2, I was like "If he went all vengeance on mages, why hasn't the Order discharged him? How can they trust him to watch over mages? Hell, at the very least, even if they can't pin the murders on him, he should be in deep doo for abadoning his post for weeks at a time."
Then I went back through DAO as another mage and didn't find anything that said it was a fact that he WAS the one, just that it made seem like it COULD be him. After taking that away, I suddnely found I had no reason not to sympathize with him and found his crush on Amell so cute! I guess I just really wanted to like him! lol!
But at first, I resented that he wanted to kill my husband's mage, which is the first time I saw him because I hadn't done my own mage yet and missed Frank's origin story.
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Posté 30 avril 2012 - 06:00
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SamaraDraven wrote...
The smiley is just a short hand way of saying what you think or feel about something. In this case, the idea of having Cullen as a companion/LI makes her/him sick. They could be tired of hearing the Cullen fangirls go on about it. That could be what she/he means. Or maybe the person meant that she/he doesn't like idea.
Not everyone was endeared by Cullen. Not everyone found his stuttering cute. The fact that he said he would have done his duty if he had to, though it would break his heart struck some as creepy instead of sweet. I mean how many girls want to hear, "I didn't want to have to kill you but I would have"? Then he was pretty hateful against mages in general, didn't want to try for their sake but kill them all instead. He later uses the Broken Circle quest as an argument against killing the surrendered mages in DA2 when he himself wasn't all for it at the time. It seems hypocritical of him.
Then there's the epilogue in DAO where there was templar rumored to be Cullen who had gone mad and was killing mages. it's never been clear (at least not to me) whether or not it was him, but many drew that conclusion anyway. So he went from kinda dorky, to a bit loony to full on psycho. That journey, in some people's minds, made him too cracked to be trusted or do anything with besides put him out of his misery. The fact that he says some pretty harsh things against mages at the beginning of DA2 doesn't help matters. A lot of gamers forgot that, for him the abuses he suffered at the hands of those mages was mere months prior to his appearance in Kirkwall and that his comments are really leagues better than his "Kill 'em all!" stance after Broken Circle. All of this together makes him a creepy, dangerous person.
Not everyone learned to like him. And some refuse to remember that the codex wasn't clear on if Cullen WAS the psycho Templar or that he had real reasons, recent reasons to be wary of mages. So to many of those who do not like Cullen, we who do seem like we're off our rocker. And rather than choose to simply shrug and say "To each their own" they are so appalled anyone can want the character around more and as an LI, no less, that they are sickened by it. If they're simply just tired of hearing about it, they're being rude and will just have to buck up and you should just ignore them.
Sorry if I got too preachy. I just figured I'd share my POV because I didn't always like Cullen either. He grew on me. Most especially when I played as a mage Origin. But then I thought he wents nuts and homicidal. When I saw him DA2, I was like "If he went all vengeance on mages, why hasn't the Order discharged him? How can they trust him to watch over mages? Hell, at the very least, even if they can't pin the murders on him, he should be in deep doo for abadoning his post for weeks at a time."
Then I went back through DAO as another mage and didn't find anything that said it was a fact that he WAS the one, just that it made seem like it COULD be him. After taking that away, I suddnely found I had no reason not to sympathize with him and found his crush on Amell so cute! I guess I just really wanted to like him! lol!
Oh, it didn't bother me. I just would've liked to know what made them sick. I know not everyone's going to like the same character as we do. Like I said, ideology wise, I can see why someone wouldn't like him. To the point of wanting to puke, however... lol. Unless having the option for a male to romance him, which I wouldn't blame them for that face--no offense to anyone who disagrees. I mean, certain characters I don't mind being bi, but Cullen--I want him straight.
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Posté 30 avril 2012 - 07:08
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Oh, it didn't bother me. I just would've liked to know what made them sick. I know not everyone's going to like the same character as we do. Like I said, ideology wise, I can see why someone wouldn't like him. To the point of wanting to puke, however... lol. Unless having the option for a male to romance him, which I wouldn't blame them for that face--no offense to anyone who disagrees. I mean, certain characters I don't mind being bi, but Cullen--I want him straight.
Ah. Well, good.
Cullen himself is not puke worthy. 
I remember thinking it was a shame he'd gone loony. I like bi characters but I guess I never thought of Cullen as anything other than straight. He, like Alistair, I would agree that keeping him straight fits his personality better. In my opinion, at least. Maybe I'm just biased because I'm scarred for life, thanks to the Cullen/Anders fic I ran across once.
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Posté 30 avril 2012 - 10:28
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I wouldn't mind if they made him bisexual, if only for the sake of gay men who want to romance him as a male (especially as a lot of people like to create characters based on themselves.) And also cos it would be kinda hot seeing him make out with another hot guy... What can I say, I'm a perv! Hell who wouldn't want to romance such a fine piece of Templar arse!
However, personality wise Cullen does seem to be 100% straight and as far as I'm aware he never had a crush on you if you played as a male Mage during the Mage origins prologue (can someone confirm that for me.) I think DA3 would do well to give us a mixture of gay, straight and bisexual romanceable characters like ME3 did, from a purely role playing perspective it would encourage people to try out other genders and romance other characters rather than just sticking to your favourite because he/she happens to swing both ways lol.
As for people hating Cullen, a lot of it is down to his behaviour towards the end of DA:O (including his prologues) and the fact that he took Bethany to the Gallows if you didn't take her with you during the Deep Roads quest in DA2. They forget that it's been a few short months since the events of DA:O when we first meet him so of course he's still going to be messed up after being tortured and forced to watch his Templar brothers die, hell there was even a dead body rotting away inside that magical prison with him for Maker knows how long... If that isn't enough to drive a guy to post traumatic stress then I dunno know what is! But I guess a lot of people feel like the gap between both games was the time in which we had to wait for the second game to be released, despite knowing otherwise. However, It's clear that over time his initial intolerance and hatred towards Mages softens a little, which is made abundantly clear when he speaks of Amell and his concerns for Feynriel if you send him to the Gallows rather than help him. I also think he slowly comes to the conclusion that his new found predjudice towards all Mages is too extreme as he watches Meredith become increasingly consumed by her overwhelming desire to control and eventually kill all the Kirkwall Mages (he even voices his concerns to Hawke on several occasions regarding the matter.) I think perhaps he caught a glimpse through Meredith of what he might become if he let his anger about his past consume him, which is why he contradicts himself in Act 3. I also think that a lot of people don't realise that it's the same Cullen from DA:O (especially if they didn't play as a female Mage) because he looks completely different in DA2 and was only a minor NPC in DA:O. His physical appearance in DA:O may also be another reason why people found him creepy because his model looked a lot older than his DA2 counterpart so I guess some people associated it with him being a creepy old man lol, which might have been the initial concept Bioware set out to achieve but it backfired thanks to Greg Ellis' amazing voice acting skills. I've actually watched the conversation between Amell and Cullen after her Harrowing on YouTube where they used a mod to make Cullen look younger and more like his DA2 model and I've gotta say it makes the conversation appear less "creepy" and more like he's just a young, inexperienced Templar who let himself fall in love against his better judgement... That's not to say Cullen's DA:O model was ugly though.
To summerise I think people are too harsh on him, they forget just how young Cullen was in DA:O (thanks to Bioware retconning his physical appearance and making reference to him going easy on Mages during his "younger years.") Bioware also didn't make it clear enough that Cullen's epilogues from DA:O were retconned... though I'm not entirely sure how they would have gone about that aside from claiming they were just tall tales or rumours.
It's weird, I was just reading his epilogues, it's weird that they would retcon them baring in mind that he was such a minor NPC in DA:O. As harsh as it sounds meeting him as a total madman or whatever would have made for an interesting cameo, thus giving the role of Knight-Captain to some other NPC... Maybe David Gaider 'n' co are listening to the fans? Perhaps we will get him as a companion/LI after all?
However, personality wise Cullen does seem to be 100% straight and as far as I'm aware he never had a crush on you if you played as a male Mage during the Mage origins prologue (can someone confirm that for me.) I think DA3 would do well to give us a mixture of gay, straight and bisexual romanceable characters like ME3 did, from a purely role playing perspective it would encourage people to try out other genders and romance other characters rather than just sticking to your favourite because he/she happens to swing both ways lol.
As for people hating Cullen, a lot of it is down to his behaviour towards the end of DA:O (including his prologues) and the fact that he took Bethany to the Gallows if you didn't take her with you during the Deep Roads quest in DA2. They forget that it's been a few short months since the events of DA:O when we first meet him so of course he's still going to be messed up after being tortured and forced to watch his Templar brothers die, hell there was even a dead body rotting away inside that magical prison with him for Maker knows how long... If that isn't enough to drive a guy to post traumatic stress then I dunno know what is! But I guess a lot of people feel like the gap between both games was the time in which we had to wait for the second game to be released, despite knowing otherwise. However, It's clear that over time his initial intolerance and hatred towards Mages softens a little, which is made abundantly clear when he speaks of Amell and his concerns for Feynriel if you send him to the Gallows rather than help him. I also think he slowly comes to the conclusion that his new found predjudice towards all Mages is too extreme as he watches Meredith become increasingly consumed by her overwhelming desire to control and eventually kill all the Kirkwall Mages (he even voices his concerns to Hawke on several occasions regarding the matter.) I think perhaps he caught a glimpse through Meredith of what he might become if he let his anger about his past consume him, which is why he contradicts himself in Act 3. I also think that a lot of people don't realise that it's the same Cullen from DA:O (especially if they didn't play as a female Mage) because he looks completely different in DA2 and was only a minor NPC in DA:O. His physical appearance in DA:O may also be another reason why people found him creepy because his model looked a lot older than his DA2 counterpart so I guess some people associated it with him being a creepy old man lol, which might have been the initial concept Bioware set out to achieve but it backfired thanks to Greg Ellis' amazing voice acting skills. I've actually watched the conversation between Amell and Cullen after her Harrowing on YouTube where they used a mod to make Cullen look younger and more like his DA2 model and I've gotta say it makes the conversation appear less "creepy" and more like he's just a young, inexperienced Templar who let himself fall in love against his better judgement... That's not to say Cullen's DA:O model was ugly though.
To summerise I think people are too harsh on him, they forget just how young Cullen was in DA:O (thanks to Bioware retconning his physical appearance and making reference to him going easy on Mages during his "younger years.") Bioware also didn't make it clear enough that Cullen's epilogues from DA:O were retconned... though I'm not entirely sure how they would have gone about that aside from claiming they were just tall tales or rumours.
It's weird, I was just reading his epilogues, it's weird that they would retcon them baring in mind that he was such a minor NPC in DA:O. As harsh as it sounds meeting him as a total madman or whatever would have made for an interesting cameo, thus giving the role of Knight-Captain to some other NPC... Maybe David Gaider 'n' co are listening to the fans? Perhaps we will get him as a companion/LI after all?
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I've missed this thread! I haven't been on here that much lately, actually all the DA2 threads seem to be slowing down alot. It's just such a long time until we learn who the companions are, ahhh I can't wait 
So for more questions what do you guys think is a realistic probability of Cullen becoming a companion? speaking hypothetically of course
So for more questions what do you guys think is a realistic probability of Cullen becoming a companion? speaking hypothetically of course
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Posté 30 avril 2012 - 11:01
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Lol allo.
My mind constantly changes on that subject. Sometimes I feel like I'm almost certain that he'll be a companion/LI when I think about how much retconning they done to Cullen dispirited only being a minor NPC I'm DA:O, surely they wouldn't have risked the backlash for no real reason, plus he could potentially play a big part in the Mage/Templar conflict. But then I see stuff like the concept art at PAX with the Warden and Seeker warriors and I lose hope.
My mind constantly changes on that subject. Sometimes I feel like I'm almost certain that he'll be a companion/LI when I think about how much retconning they done to Cullen dispirited only being a minor NPC I'm DA:O, surely they wouldn't have risked the backlash for no real reason, plus he could potentially play a big part in the Mage/Templar conflict. But then I see stuff like the concept art at PAX with the Warden and Seeker warriors and I lose hope.
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Posté 30 avril 2012 - 11:13
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LolaLei wrote...
Lol allo.
My mind constantly changes on that subject. Sometimes I feel like I'm almost certain that he'll be a companion/LI when I think about how much retconning they done to Cullen dispirited only being a minor NPC I'm DA:O, surely they wouldn't have risked the backlash for no real reason, plus he could potentially play a big part in the Mage/Templar conflict. But then I see stuff like the concept art at PAX with the Warden and Seeker warriors and I lose hope.
Lola you're on! It's a good thing you live in England no one in America is on my crazy schedule lol. I feel the same way. A while back I was almost positive he was going to be a companion due to him stepping in for you at the end of DA2, but now I'm not so sure, especially since after the concept art. Aw I wish we could just maybe get like a slight small hint or something. I'd say it's like a 50/50 chance. And hopefully it's the 50 with Cullen
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Posté 30 avril 2012 - 11:52
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First, welcome, welcome, vieralynn! Pull up a chair and post your lovely Cullens anytime!
And, on the Cullen haters, I don't really want to go there, except to remind that the one sort of poster-child speech against the mages in DA2 was uttered by dear Act 1 PTSD!Cullen, with all that "you can't treat mages like people" rhetoric. Despite having some good points, he's so dogmatic at that point that I think he ultimately pushes peoples buttons on the issue. Then, his epiphany at the end is often seen as flip-flopping. :shrug: I think it's really a shame that you only see the "that's what being a templar is about" speech if you're already pro-templar, which I'd wager is played less often than pro-mage.
And, on the Cullen haters, I don't really want to go there, except to remind that the one sort of poster-child speech against the mages in DA2 was uttered by dear Act 1 PTSD!Cullen, with all that "you can't treat mages like people" rhetoric. Despite having some good points, he's so dogmatic at that point that I think he ultimately pushes peoples buttons on the issue. Then, his epiphany at the end is often seen as flip-flopping. :shrug: I think it's really a shame that you only see the "that's what being a templar is about" speech if you're already pro-templar, which I'd wager is played less often than pro-mage.
LOL - I hear you! I'm reading a darkspawn battle and thinking, "hmm, if the Warden got this beat up every time she (and only three others) fought darkspawn, the Fifth Blight would have been ALOOOT longer." I was mumbling alot of, "Aw, come on. Get UP!"Destria wrote...
I love getting the wordy descriptions on on everything from environments to magical energy.
To the other thing, I totally had that impression when I read Asunder. At the end when one of the main characters was dying, I actually said aloud, "Why was she not lifewarded??"
/facepalm
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Posté 30 avril 2012 - 12:39
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Jasmine96 wrote...
I've missed this thread! I haven't been on here that much lately, actually all the DA2 threads seem to be slowing down alot. It's just such a long time until we learn who the companions are, ahhh I can't wait
So for more questions what do you guys think is a realistic probability of Cullen becoming a companion? speaking hypothetically of course
YAY Welcome back lol.
I actually think it's a pretty good possibility, only depending on where they plan to take us next. And how far into the future lol. If they go 20 years or plus into the future, then yeah I don't think we will see Cullen. However, I don't see them doing a big jump like that.
So yeah, I think there is a good possibility. And the devs are all about surprises. Why not please the fans that love him by throwing him in as a companion and ****** off the ones that don't like him by doing just that as well. Maybe, just maybe if he was an optional LI and Companion, maybe we could convert some haters to lovers lol.
I think the worse thing they could do to us however, is give him as a companion but with no chance at being an LI, like Aveline....that would blow!
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Posté 30 avril 2012 - 01:24
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Oh god yeah that would suck so badly!
Here's a new question for you all: Do you think Cullen should be as easily romanceable in DA3 as Anders was or should he be harder to get like Fenris?
I personally think it should take some work to get him to trust you enough to have a relationship with your character (especially if you're a Mage) since he seems to purposely shy away from relationships (as far as we're aware.) David Gaider and the team should weave Cullen's romance arc into the main story like they did with Alistair in DA:O. In fact they should approach the Cullen romance in a similar way to Alistair's, although Cullen would have different motivations and different reasons to be wary/slow moving in during the persuit. Despite them both having Templar roots Ali was more than willing to have a relationship but he was inexperienced due to circumstance and also desired to be 100% certain before consummating said romance, where as Cullen seems to actively avoid relationships and any/all contact with women beyond a professional level (quite possibly avoiding sexual encounters as well) which should come into play whilst our character Persues him romantically. If they decide to make him a virgin they should use his torture during the circle quest as one of the reasons why he avoids physical contact (perhaps the demons did try to seduce him with images of Amell or maybe desire demons tried to physically seduce him. Maybe he avoids it because he doesn't agree with casual sex but doesn't want to get into a relationship due to his PTSD and head mess, not wishing to be a burden to his lover.)
Here's a new question for you all: Do you think Cullen should be as easily romanceable in DA3 as Anders was or should he be harder to get like Fenris?
I personally think it should take some work to get him to trust you enough to have a relationship with your character (especially if you're a Mage) since he seems to purposely shy away from relationships (as far as we're aware.) David Gaider and the team should weave Cullen's romance arc into the main story like they did with Alistair in DA:O. In fact they should approach the Cullen romance in a similar way to Alistair's, although Cullen would have different motivations and different reasons to be wary/slow moving in during the persuit. Despite them both having Templar roots Ali was more than willing to have a relationship but he was inexperienced due to circumstance and also desired to be 100% certain before consummating said romance, where as Cullen seems to actively avoid relationships and any/all contact with women beyond a professional level (quite possibly avoiding sexual encounters as well) which should come into play whilst our character Persues him romantically. If they decide to make him a virgin they should use his torture during the circle quest as one of the reasons why he avoids physical contact (perhaps the demons did try to seduce him with images of Amell or maybe desire demons tried to physically seduce him. Maybe he avoids it because he doesn't agree with casual sex but doesn't want to get into a relationship due to his PTSD and head mess, not wishing to be a burden to his lover.)
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Posté 30 avril 2012 - 01:37
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LolaLei wrote...
Oh god yeah that would suck so badly!
Here's a new question for you all: Do you think Cullen should be as easily romanceable in DA3 as Anders was or should he be harder to get like Fenris?
I personally think it should take some work to get him to trust you enough to have a relationship with your character (especially if you're a Mage) since he seems to purposely shy away from relationships (as far as we're aware.) David Gaider and the team should weave Cullen's romance arc into the main story like they did with Alistair in DA:O. In fact they should approach the Cullen romance in a similar way to Alistair's, although Cullen would have different motivations and different reasons to be wary/slow moving in during the persuit. Despite them both having Templar roots Ali was more than willing to have a relationship but he was inexperienced due to circumstance and also desired to be 100% certain before consummating said romance, where as Cullen seems to actively avoid relationships and any/all contact with women beyond a professional level (quite possibly avoiding sexual encounters as well) which should come into play whilst our character Persues him romantically. If they decide to make him a virgin they should use his torture during the circle quest as one of the reasons why he avoids physical contact (perhaps the demons did try to seduce him with images of Amell or maybe desire demons tried to physically seduce him. Maybe he avoids it because he doesn't agree with casual sex but doesn't want to get into a relationship due to his PTSD and head mess, not wishing to be a burden to his lover.)
I think it should take some work to romance him but I don't want him running off like that tool Fenris did. I like Alistair's arc but there didn't seem to be enough... I don't know.... urgency? It was almost too gentle when he finally got some. Fenris had the urgency but then he bolted like a little girl. I guess what I'm saying is there's something to be said about the thrill of the chase. Then the build up gets so intense that it can finally no longer be contained and then the fireworks.
And I don't want his emotional baggage to be too heavy. Some, fine. Excessive, not again.
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Posté 30 avril 2012 - 01:45
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I think Cullen would be a romance which was part Fenris, part Alistair.
I reckon he'd stumble over his words when it started getting flirty but he'd brood a lot, especially if you were a mage.
Maybe he took chastity vows when he became a Templar but breaks them and has a Fenris moment of guilt.
I reckon he'd stumble over his words when it started getting flirty but he'd brood a lot, especially if you were a mage.
Maybe he took chastity vows when he became a Templar but breaks them and has a Fenris moment of guilt.
#2743
Posté 30 avril 2012 - 01:52
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Yeah the sex scene should be intense with Cullen, the guy is practically exploding with sexual frustration. I can kinda see why it was gentle with Alistair because he was very naive and shy... That being said all the sex scenes in DA:O were gentle, even Zev's lol.
I think it's fine if Cullen runs off briefly IF he does it to save the protagonists life (like if he offers himself to the rebel Templars in exchange for letting her go, only for them to both get screwed over and he has to rescue her or visa versa.)
I think it's fine if Cullen runs off briefly IF he does it to save the protagonists life (like if he offers himself to the rebel Templars in exchange for letting her go, only for them to both get screwed over and he has to rescue her or visa versa.)
#2744
Posté 30 avril 2012 - 01:58
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Ooh yeah, like the warden can at Arl Howe's estate.
The protagonist of DA3 needs moments where they're rescued. It'd be cute if for one quest you have to play as your companions trying to save the PC, like the moment where the blood mages/templars kidnap Bethany/Carver/other.
Cullen strikes me as the kind of person who would do REALLY stupid things to prove he loves you, like turn himself over pointlessly.
The protagonist of DA3 needs moments where they're rescued. It'd be cute if for one quest you have to play as your companions trying to save the PC, like the moment where the blood mages/templars kidnap Bethany/Carver/other.
Cullen strikes me as the kind of person who would do REALLY stupid things to prove he loves you, like turn himself over pointlessly.
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Posté 30 avril 2012 - 02:13
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Yeah he does strike me as the type of guy that would do some really daft stuff like that, I can imagine he'd attempt to do something sweet for you only for it to go wrong because he has no real life experience outside of the Templars so he's probably completely clueless when it comes to token gestures, kinda like Aveline and her copper marigolds LOL. But he seems like the type of guy that would say some very sweet things to his lover.
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Posté 30 avril 2012 - 02:21
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LOL in fact I can imagine him trying to find tips on how to "woo" a lady, reading romance novels, listening carefully to courting couples and trying to get subtle tips from the other companions, only for him to attempt to "set the mood" and him getting all flustered etc... Kinda like Garrus when he tries to seduce Shepard with traditional human courting traditions and gets it completely wrong, which then leads to a very tender scene between them.
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Posté 30 avril 2012 - 02:25
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Or he could surprise you by being a really assertive Casanova and knowing exactly what to do without consulting anyone.
But I like the thought of him reading romance novels and his ears turning red at the steamy bits. :innocent:
But I like the thought of him reading romance novels and his ears turning red at the steamy bits. :innocent:
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Posté 30 avril 2012 - 02:34
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#2749
Posté 30 avril 2012 - 02:36
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I know it sounds contradictory, but I'd sort of want both of these. What I really liked about DA2!Cullen was his confidence and assertiveness. So, as far as relationship building, I don't think I'd want to have to coddle him like we did Alistair. And, I don't want to have to chase him either. I want him to know what he wants. That said... when it comes down to erm, the real business, I think it would be cute if he didn't quite know what he was doing.CommanderJessica wrote...
Or he could surprise you by being a really assertive Casanova and knowing exactly what to do without consulting anyone.
But I like the thought of him reading romance novels and his ears turning red at the steamy bits. :innocent:
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Posté 30 avril 2012 - 02:54
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I think he'd be assertive once he felt confident that our character was definitely interested, but I can imagine him getting flustered and worrying up until that point, not to mention him having to overcome his own "issues" (particularly if she's a Mage.) Once he'd got beyond his Templar beliefs I think he'd be all systems go lol.
