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[Jessihatt]

R2s Muse wrote...
I don't think I'd want to have to coddle him like we did Alistair. And, I don't want to have to chase him either. I want him to know what he wants. That said... when it comes down to erm, the real business, I think it would be cute if he didn't quite know what he was doing.

Aha, agreed!
I want it to be like no other romance we've had in the series so far.

Kinda like a strong interest and pursuit but when the PC turns around and says "Let's do this then:devil:" he's like "urr.. ok? :unsure:"

[LolaLei]

I do wonder what route they'll take with Cullen's romance arc. But I worry that he'll be an unromanceable companion or that he'll refuse to strike up a relationship with a Mage... Like he'd have sex with her, admit his feelings for her but tell her that it was a mistake because they can't ever be together and then go and die at the end or rejoin the Templar order as chief Templar guy lol.

... Man that would suck. It was also suck if the romances feel as shallow as the ones in DA2. Cullen is a man to be savoured like a fine wine dammit!

[SamaraDraven]

VampOrchid wrote...

http://mistiqarts.de.../28901412&qo=20

Not sure if this pic was here yet

Wow.  :D:wub:

I was gonna look at this about 20 minutes ago but something told me to wait until I got the kids to school first. hehehehe... I have a special radar for these things it seems.   Thanks for sharing!

LolaLei wrote...
I think he'd be assertive once he felt confident that our character was
definitely interested, but I can imagine him getting flustered and
worrying up until that point, not to mention him having to overcome his
own "issues" (particularly if she's a Mage.) Once he'd got beyond his
Templar beliefs I think he'd be all systems go lol.

I like that scenario best. I think he would be unsure, probably just a bit friendlier at times because he likes his romantic interest but once he knew the feeling was mutual, he'd be like a man on a mission. provided he didn't have any hang up about it of course... Bioware does love doing that. Alistair's romance-ending-if-you-weren't-a-human-noble-and-made-yourself-queen-but-put-him-on-the-throne, I'm looking at you. <_<

Edit: Wow. This thread suddenly came back to life during the hourse that I decided to get some shut-eye.

Modifié par SamaraDraven, 30 avril 2012 - 03:14 .

[LolaLei]

Aw I can't look at it on here, is he naked???

[SamaraDraven]

LolaLei wrote...

Aw I can't look at it on here, is he naked???

Looks it. But he's covered by his enchantress. And she's naked too but again, her bits aren't on display. It's a sexy pose. and the expressions are sooo good! Cullen looks like he's biting or sucking on her neck. P= The only thing I'm not a fan of is the shiny look to their skin. Makes them look like they're made of balloons. IMO at least. But it's a good pic.

[LolaLei]

I can see one where they are up against a tree and he's kissing her, but she's got a long dress on that hangs off her shoulders.

[SamaraDraven]

LolaLei wrote...

I can see one where they are up against a tree and he's kissing her, but she's got a long dress on that hangs off her shoulders.

Oh the one I'm looking at, has no tree. Or clothes. It's all one tone though. It's not colored.

[LolaLei]

Samara: I kept Alistair as a Warden because he didn't want to become King and my character was the Amell Mage. I find that relationship more romantic because they go off and have adventures together, plus the line you get in DA2 when you run into him is very sweet: "This belongs to the love of my life, she won't mind you having it, she's always finding like this on her travels." - or something like that.

[LolaLei]

I found it, they do look like balloons don't they!

[SamaraDraven]

@Lola Awww! That's so sweet! And just like Alistair too. I didn't get that because I used only my DAO import of my Amell with the ending where she made Alistair king alongside Anora because my mage had romanced Zevran. I have done the whole running off to do wardney things with Alistair though and let Anora rule. But the one where I played a Dalish elf and romanced Alistair and put him on the throne peeved me. hehe It's why I stopped putting his silly butt on throne in my playthroughs. Until I played as Cousland. Then I made myself queen and yelled at my screen "Shove THAT in your pipe and smoke it Ali boy!" hehehehehe

LolaLei wrote...

I found it, they do look like balloons don't they!

They do! I thought maybe it was just me... Wouldn't be the first time.

Modifié par SamaraDraven, 30 avril 2012 - 03:41 .

[R2s Muse]

Dunno if you guys have seen this, but just watched a great new David Gaider interview, by Felicia Day's Geek & Sundry. He talks a lot about the game writing process, specifically with respect to the process developing the romances. And... somehow I knew it, he wrote the Anomen romance from BG2... which I keep being reminded of when I imagine a real Cullen romance for DA3. Interesting stuff!

Check it:

[SamaraDraven]

Thanks R2. I haven't seen it yet. So I'm watching it now. I just decided it would also be a good time to paint my nails. =D

[R2s Muse]

SamaraDraven wrote...

LolaLei wrote...
I think he'd be assertive once he felt confident that our character was definitely interested, but I can imagine him getting flustered and worrying up until that point, not to mention him having to overcome his own "issues" (particularly if she's a Mage.) Once he'd got beyond his Templar beliefs I think he'd be all systems go lol.

I like that scenario best. I think he would be unsure, probably just a bit friendlier at times because he likes his romantic interest but once he knew the feeling was mutual, he'd be like a man on a mission. provided he didn't have any hang up about it of course... Bioware does love doing that. Alistair's romance-ending-if-you-weren't-a-human-noble-and-made-yourself-queen-but-put-him-on-the-throne, I'm looking at you. <_<

Heh, I like the phrase "all systems go"! I could see it going that way. I agree that he'd be unsure about the romance itself. In terms of assertiveness, I don't think I imagine him, you know, pursuing the PC all Zevran-style. But more... like being confident in himself and his plans for whatever his subquest/issue is, and I could see the romance almost... sneaking up on him. Like, oh damn, where did these feelings come from... gulp, does she feel the same...? Like, he's very sure of himself, except in the romance. Sort of Aveline-like.  But without all the marigold-awkwardness.

Not sure if that makes sense.

Edit for more pics on this page:

Modifié par R2s Muse, 30 avril 2012 - 03:58 .

[R2s Muse]

And... some dragonageconfessions positivity:

Modifié par R2s Muse, 30 avril 2012 - 04:04 .

[SamaraDraven]

In watching Felicia Day's interview of DG, he said something that worries me a little about Cullen's chances of being a LI. He said that they try to think about what kind of romance story they want to tell before thinking about the character they make to tell that story. So... if Cullen doesn't have the story potential, no matter how much we'd love him to be there, he won't be in DA3. It would depend on the story they are telling. At first I thought, if the love is there, They'll do it. But if there's no good way to write him in as a romance, he won't be developed. =( On the other hand, a part of me is going "But if they're dealing with the mage/templar fallout, there's a PERFECT opportunity for them to go there" so now I don't know what to think. I guess this is the same as what we keep wondering: "Will the story allow for Cullen? Will it be too far removed? Will Cullen need to be written in a drastically different role to make it happen?" But DG just summed up the essence of the dilemma. It's possible Cullen will be perfect for the story as a companion/LI but... only IF the story is such that he fits, otherwise he won't be used. After the backlash the writers had to weather for the retconning of their implied DAO epilogue, I doubt they'll pull any maneuvers like that in order to get him into the next story. This makes me a very sad panda.

Edit: DG was really getitng into his description the Fenris rivalmance! Teehee!  =D I love it. He seems like a regular guy, not a douche like some say he is. Or was that the another Bioware dude who's douchey? Suddenly DG's comments seem less like "I am Lord DA Devleoper!" and more like someone who just creates stuff and is lucky enough to be paid for it.

Modifié par SamaraDraven, 30 avril 2012 - 04:42 .

[R2s Muse]

SamaraDraven wrote...

In watching Felicia Day's interview of DG, he said something that worries me a little about Cullen's chances of being a LI. He said that they try to think about what kind of romance story they want to tell before thinking about the character they make to tell that story. So... if Cullen doesn't have the story potential, no matter how much we'd love him to be there, he won't be in DA3. It would depend on the story they are telling. At first I thought, if the love is there, They'll do it. But if there's no good way to write him in as a romance, he won't be developed. =( On the other hand, a part of me is going "But if they're dealing with the mage/templar fallout, there's a PERFECT opportunity for them to go there" so now I don't know what to think. I guess this is the same as what we keep wondering: "Will the story allow for Cullen? Will it be too far removed? Will Cullen need to be written in a drastically different role to make it happen?" But DG just summed up the essence of the dilemma. It's possible Cullen will be perfect for the story as a companion/LI but... only IF the story is such that he fits, otherwise he won't be used. After the backlash the writers had to weather for the retconning of their implied DAO epilogue, I doubt they'll pull any maneuvers like that in order to get him into the next story. This makes me a very sad panda.

Edit: DG was really getitng into his description the Fenris rivalmance! Teehee!  =D I love it. He seems like a regular guy, not a douche like some say he is. Or was that the another Bioware dude who's douchey? Suddenly DG's comments seem less like "I am Lord DA Devleoper!" and more like someone who just creates stuff and is lucky enough to be paid for it.

Agree about DG. It was a wonderfully candid interview and he's just so diplomatic about those thorny issues. He continues to impress me. I'd never heard first hand his Alistair = Xander+Malcolm Reynolds story before, tho. LOL

And, I figured they would never include Cullen unless the story warranted it anyway... which it does, IMO. So, I personally didn't find it discouraging. But I suppose it does suggest that they would have to sit down and say, "we want a romance that does x,y,z..." and then for story reasons, would have to decide that Cullen fit that profile. As opposed to the other way around. But, I still say he's both romance and companion gold, esp if it's a mage-templar war story. So, I'm still hopeful...

[SamaraDraven]

R2s Muse wrote...
Agree about DG. It was a wonderfully candid interview and he's just so diplomatic about those thorny issues. He continues to impress me. I'd never heard first hand his Alistair = Xander+Malcolm Reynolds story before, tho. LOL

And, I figured they would never include Cullen unless the story warranted it anyway... which it does, IMO. So, I personally didn't find it discouraging. But I suppose it does suggest that they would have to sit down and say, "we want a romance that does x,y,z..." and then for story reasons, would have to decide that Cullen fit that profile. As opposed to the other way around. But, I still say he's both romance and companion gold, esp if it's a mage-templar war story. So, I'm still hopeful...

He did answer those somewhat prickly issues rather diplomatically but without sounding like a bland, apologist  panderer. He answered and it was honest without being judgemental. I like that. He admitted fandom can get intimidating and that he expects people to take the DA univers personally because they do invest their personal selves into it so much. So I liked his interview.

I guess for Cullen, I thought that since the desire for him is so big and passionate that the writiers just HAD to do it. I mean Seb, Merril and Fenris felt superfluous to me and were LIs so I guess I thought they'd just try to figure out how to write Cullen in. I do agree that if they're dealing with the mage/templar fallout that the story's ripe for his involvement. I guess I just thought he'd have to be a shoe-in considering the less relevant companions Bioware has come up with. But that's me projecting my assumptions and desires onto a reality that just isn't so. What DG said kind of takes away my "safety net" you know? Even though Cullen's involvement isn't any less likely, really. So... I'm still hopeful, but I'm a bit less certain. Or presumptious, might be a better word.

[R2s Muse]

@Samara, Ah, I see what you mean. Yeah, I guess I've been assuming that fan feeling will mean absolutely nothing in their decision, pro or con. Which perhaps is good, in Cullen's case, since there are so many fans at both ends of the spectrum... LOL Just hoping that they end up agreeing with us that he's SUCH A GOOD FIT for a DA3 story.

SamaraDraven wrote...
He admitted fandom can get intimidating and that he expects people to
take the DA univers personally because they do invest their personal
selves into it so much.

Yes, I liked that part, too! I'm glad that he recognizes how inevitable it is that with good characters we become hopelessly invested. And hopefully the threats and meanness don't damage his calm too much. :gulp:

Modifié par R2s Muse, 30 avril 2012 - 05:58 .

[Dunquixote]

Jasmine96 wrote...

I've missed this thread! I haven't been on here that much lately, actually all the DA2 threads seem to be slowing down alot. It's just such a long time until we learn who the companions are, ahhh I can't wait 
 So for more questions what do you guys think is a realistic probability of Cullen becoming a companion? speaking hypothetically of course 

Hi, Jasmine .  Wb!

LolaLei wrote...

Oh god yeah that would suck so badly!

Here's
a new question for you all: Do you think Cullen should be as easily
romanceable in DA3 as Anders was or should he be harder to get like
Fenris?

I personally think it should take some work to get him to
trust you enough to have a relationship with your character (especially
if you're a Mage) since he seems to purposely shy away from
relationships (as far as we're aware.) David Gaider and the team should
weave Cullen's romance arc into the main story like they did with
Alistair in DA:O. In fact they should approach the Cullen romance in a
similar way to Alistair's, although Cullen would have different
motivations and different reasons to be wary/slow moving in during the
persuit. Despite them both having Templar roots Ali was more than
willing to have a relationship but he was inexperienced due to
circumstance and also desired to be 100% certain before consummating
said romance, where as Cullen seems to actively avoid relationships and
any/all contact with women beyond a professional level (quite possibly
avoiding sexual encounters as well) which should come into play whilst
our character Persues him romantically. If they decide to make him a
virgin they should use his torture during the circle quest as one of the
reasons why he avoids physical contact (perhaps the demons did try to
seduce him with images of Amell or maybe desire demons tried to
physically seduce him. Maybe he avoids it because he doesn't agree with
casual sex but doesn't want to get into a relationship due to his PTSD
and head mess, not wishing to be a burden to his lover.)

I know you're probably tired me me saying 'if he's with my warden;' my apologies... :[  I just love the thought her with Cullen it's hard for me to not see them together.  It makes me feel like I'm the one with Cullen.    But, if she was with him, I'd want him to be easy to get.  

How did you like the Calling, R2?  Have you read the Stolen Throne yet? 

Modifié par Dunquixote, 30 avril 2012 - 07:01 .

[SamaraDraven]

R2s Muse wrote...

@Samara, Ah, I see what you mean. Yeah, I guess I've been assuming that fan feeling will mean absolutely nothing in their decision, pro or con. Which perhaps is good, in Cullen's case, since there are so many fans at both ends of the spectrum... LOL Just hoping that they end up agreeing with us that he's SUCH A GOOD FIT for a DA3 story.

SamaraDraven wrote...
He admitted fandom can get intimidating and that he expects people to
take the DA univers personally because they do invest their personal
selves into it so much.

Yes, I liked that part, too! I'm glad that he recognizes how inevitable it is that with good characters we become hopelessly invested. And hopefully the threats and meanness don't damage his calm too much. :gulp:

He is a good fit. So there's a good chance they'll have him in the story somewhere. If he's not an LI I'll be bummed but I'll deal. I'd love to say "If Cullen's not a romance in DA3, I don't want him at all." but I'm hopeless enough to take whatever I can get. If they don't use him at all, I'll probably rage a bit because I just couldn't understand why. But I've already resolved to not be a meanie about it.

[R2s Muse]

Dunquixote wrote...

How did you like the Calling, R2?  Have you read the Stolen Throne yet? 

Ah, I liked it. Thanks for asking! The ending made up for some of the slower parts, IMHO. Very, very interesting, in terms of lore.  It casts a tantalizing new light on the Fifth Blight. And, I see now why there are so many Maric fangirls. He's like... the matured, hot-dad version of Alistair. LOL 

Haven't read Stolen Throne yet. I've been reading them in logic-defying reverse chronological order. LOL Guess I'll have to get that one next.

You started them yet?

[R2s Muse]

SamaraDraven wrote...
He is a good fit. So there's a good chance they'll have him in the story somewhere. If he's not an LI I'll be bummed but I'll deal. I'd love to say "If Cullen's not a romance in DA3, I don't want him at all." but I'm hopeless enough to take whatever I can get. If they don't use him at all, I'll probably rage a bit because I just couldn't understand why. But I've already resolved to not be a meanie about it.

Good attitude! I'm also trying to ambivalent about his inclusion. I think I'd honestly be surprised if he didn't at least cameo, but even if he's just an NPC I'll just do the same thing I did in DA2 ... visit and chat at every opportunity.  LOL

"Why... hello there! Um... come here often?"

[meanieweenie]

I bet if we all act like we don't care, they'll give in. Isn't that usually the case with men? lol

[VampOrchid]

R2s Muse wrote...


And, I figured they would never include Cullen unless the story warranted it anyway... which it does, IMO. So, I personally didn't find it discouraging. But I suppose it does suggest that they would have to sit down and say, "we want a romance that does x,y,z..." and then for story reasons, would have to decide that Cullen fit that profile. As opposed to the other way around. But, I still say he's both romance and companion gold, esp if it's a mage-templar war story. So, I'm still hopeful...

I agree. I still see MUCH potential to having Cullen in the next story arch. There's just too much that could be going on. He would fit no matter what. I think he has massive potential no matter what. Whether they follow the mage/templar war or not, there's still a way to slide him in there.

[VampOrchid]

http://pagbis.devian...39522863&qo=137

Meh a hint of cullen only