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[Danny Boy 7]

I killed the convo two nights in a row....perfect.

[R2s Muse]

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

I killed the convo two nights in a row....perfect.

No dear... you just show up way too late for some of us!!  *yawn*stretch*seek coffee*

[Newschmoo]

iPoohCupCakes wrote...

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

thejellnuggz wrote...
I dunno about you guys but I want to be conflicted over who I should romance because the options are equally awesome :'D

Same.  I got that feeling with Alistair and Zev in DA:O.  Not so much with Anders and Fenris, even though I do think both are equally awesome, there was no way on earth my Hawke was going to be anything more than vitriolic drinking buddies with Fen.  Mass Effect was a different story--I love Garrus to bits, but he sort of won by default.

If Cass is a romance option for dude Inquisitor, I'd like to see someone more lighthearted/easygoing for a counterpart.  Something like lady Zevran could be fun.

I was so obsessed with them both that I juggled both of their lovin' until one of them complained   I agree I want to be conflicted too with the romance options just like in DA:O, with DA2 I just kind of fell into Anders wasn't really a big whoop with who I wanted to romance in DA2 which made the romance options feel really limited to me since Fenris would always complain about the mages,Izzy acting like she works in the brothel full-time, and I just didn't really find Merill that interesting. I was technically stuck with Anders. 

I agree with the conflict over romance.  I found it within DAO - Alistair was the first as he was so adorable but the other LIs really grew on me as the game progressed, as did the approval points!  In the end my warden had to choose!

I did not find it so much in DA2.  My Hawke fell into a romance with Anders, because he was very pro-mage (I guess I also had fond memories of Anders as he used to be in Awakening).   He was never in the situation of having to choose between LIs.  Out of all the companions, Varric was my absolute fave!  There was a definite bromance.

Re the picture of the lovely lady posted by Dannyboy on the previous page - is that a young Wynne?   

[R2s Muse]

Danny Boy 7 wrote...



Do you know who this is? I do...and the answer just might blow your mind....

LOL Danny, you tease! You didn't add in the artist's tease that this is a dwarf lady for the upcoming comic series... ahem, the one that focuses on Varric's  backstory...

Beueller...? Bueller...? Bueller...? 

[R2s Muse]

Newschmoo wrote...

iPoohCupCakes wrote...

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

thejellnuggz wrote...
I dunno about you guys but I want to be conflicted over who I should romance because the options are equally awesome :'D

Same.  I got that feeling with Alistair and Zev in DA:O.  Not so much with Anders and Fenris, even though I do think both are equally awesome, there was no way on earth my Hawke was going to be anything more than vitriolic drinking buddies with Fen.  Mass Effect was a different story--I love Garrus to bits, but he sort of won by default.

If Cass is a romance option for dude Inquisitor, I'd like to see someone more lighthearted/easygoing for a counterpart.  Something like lady Zevran could be fun.

I was so obsessed with them both that I juggled both of their lovin' until one of them complained   I agree I want to be conflicted too with the romance options just like in DA:O, with DA2 I just kind of fell into Anders wasn't really a big whoop with who I wanted to romance in DA2 which made the romance options feel really limited to me since Fenris would always complain about the mages,Izzy acting like she works in the brothel full-time, and I just didn't really find Merill that interesting. I was technically stuck with Anders. 

I agree with the conflict over romance.  I found it within DAO - Alistair was the first as he was so adorable but the other LIs really grew on me as the game progressed, as did the approval points!  In the end my warden had to choose!

I did not find it so much in DA2.  My Hawke fell into a romance with Anders, because he was very pro-mage (I guess I also had fond memories of Anders as he used to be in Awakening).   He was never in the situation of having to choose between LIs.  Out of all the companions, Varric was my absolute fave!  There was a definite bromance.

Re the picture of the lovely lady posted by Dannyboy on the previous page - is that a young Wynne?   

Agree with you guys that I'm looking forward to multiple options for the next game. Interestingly, in contrast to some of you, I never felt a conflict in DA:O. I tried juggling Al and Zev once... but Alistair was really the one... and even  made romancing Cullen tough when I installed Karma's companions (hard to imagine, I know!). 

For DA2, I fell in love with all the male LIs, sort of in a rotating pattern that assured that the one I was most into at any given time was never the one I was currently romancing. I look forward to similar probs in DA3!

[berelinde]

Regarding the thing about being torn about who to romance, I'm not sure. I would *love* to agonize about who to romance, but if the survey was legit, I don't see that happening. Tal Vashoth guy is a big drinker, a trait I consider to be the polar opposite of sexy. Dorian *might* stand a chance, but only if he didn't look like Danarius. Cole? Just no. Of course, if the survey listings weren't on the menu, as it were, and if the party includes Galyan, I could definitely see myself struggling over which one to pick.

Neither previous game presented me with that challenge. I loved Zevran, but I liked Alistair more. It got to the point where the only way I could romance Zevran was if I ran a male PC. And if that happened, Zevran was the only choice because of my intense dislike for Leliana and the fact that I like Morrigan, but I don't find her attractive. In DA2, I found the the combination of sweet, corny, and needy too overwhelmingly attractive to resist, so while I loved Isabela, I couldn't drag Hawke away from Anders. I've finally got a character who can romance Fenris (he's an ultra-aggressive Hawke with no patience for tenderness), but I can't tell you how many character attempts it took to get to this point. It was always

Me: I'm not going to flirt with Anders this time.
Sis: You will.
Me: I'll be strong.
Anders: Underneath that scruffy exterior, I think you've got a bit of a soft heart yourself.
Hawke: (Flirt, flirt, flirt)
Sis: You were saying?
Me: Don't judge me.

Anyway, Galyan could give Cullen a run for his money, but none of the options from he survey would give him much competition. Unless magister dude is hotter than a ghost-pepper pizza.

[Newschmoo]

[quote]R2s Muse wrote...

[/quote] Agree with you guys that I'm looking forward to multiple options for the next game. Interestingly, in contrast to some of you, I never felt a conflict in DA:O. I tried juggling Al and Zev once... but Alistair was really the one... and even  made romancing Cullen tough when I installed Karma's companions (hard to imagine, I know!). 

For DA2, I fell in love with all the male LIs, sort of in a rotating pattern that assured that the one I was most into at any given time was never the one I was currently romancing. I look forward to similar probs in DA3!

[/quote]

My warden did end up with Alistair (cause he's so adorable).  But Zev is such a flirt and tempting!

I am really jealous of you guys with gaming PCs.  I just have to keep my fingers crossed very tightly for DA3!  

[R2s Muse]

"hotter than a ghost-pepper pizza"?? LMAO I have never heard that one before... but it works! Yeah, agree, none of the leaked companions really sounded that promising, but I'm sure there are more surprises in store for us. Galyan would be...? Wow. Galyan vs. Cullen? Those are the types of problems I like to have...

Modifié par R2s Muse, 30 novembre 2012 - 01:14 .

[Newschmoo]

[quote]R2s Muse wrote...

[/quote] Agree with you guys that I'm looking forward to multiple options for the next game. Interestingly, in contrast to some of you, I never felt a conflict in DA:O. I tried juggling Al and Zev once... but Alistair was really the one... and even  made romancing Cullen tough when I installed Karma's companions (hard to imagine, I know!). 

For DA2, I fell in love with all the male LIs, sort of in a rotating pattern that assured that the one I was most into at any given time was never the one I was currently romancing. I look forward to similar probs in DA3!

[/quote]

My warden did end up with Alistair (cause he's so adorable).  But Zev is such a flirt and tempting!

I am really jealous of you guys with gaming PCs.  I just have to keep my fingers crossed very tightly for DA3!  

[R2s Muse]

Newschmoo wrote...


My warden did end up with Alistair (cause he's so adorable).  But Zev is such a flirt and tempting!

That's for sure... It also didn't hurt that all I had to do was smile at him and suddenly I was "romancing" him again. Good grief! That guy just thought everything was an honest to goodness flirtation.

[R2s Muse]

So, how cool is this? A devart artist, tishaia, created an Inquisition brooch. It, and her thoughts on the design, are very interesting. Reminds me of my feelings on the creepy side of the Seekers.

[Danny Boy 7]

berelinde wrote...

Regarding the thing about being torn about who to romance, I'm not sure. I would *love* to agonize about who to romance, but if the survey was legit, I don't see that happening. Tal Vashoth guy is a big drinker, a trait I consider to be the polar opposite of sexy. Dorian *might* stand a chance, but only if he didn't look like Danarius. Cole? Just no. Of course, if the survey listings weren't on the menu, as it were, and if the party includes Galyan, I could definitely see myself struggling over which one to pick.

Neither previous game presented me with that challenge. I loved Zevran, but I liked Alistair more. It got to the point where the only way I could romance Zevran was if I ran a male PC. And if that happened, Zevran was the only choice because of my intense dislike for Leliana and the fact that I like Morrigan, but I don't find her attractive. In DA2, I found the the combination of sweet, corny, and needy too overwhelmingly attractive to resist, so while I loved Isabela, I couldn't drag Hawke away from Anders. I've finally got a character who can romance Fenris (he's an ultra-aggressive Hawke with no patience for tenderness), but I can't tell you how many character attempts it took to get to this point. It was always

Me: I'm not going to flirt with Anders this time.
Sis: You will.
Me: I'll be strong.
Anders: Underneath that scruffy exterior, I think you've got a bit of a soft heart yourself.
Hawke: (Flirt, flirt, flirt)
Sis: You were saying?
Me: Don't judge me.

Anyway, Galyan could give Cullen a run for his money, but none of the options from he survey would give him much competition. Unless magister dude is hotter than a ghost-pepper pizza.

What don't you like about Leliana Berelinde? Anyway to be honest the female choices for DA3 are looking rather one sided as well (at least for me). Sera's description to me is just not appealing at all, to generic in the elven thief thing though obviously it's not enough to make a final decision since a lot is subject to change and for all I know Cassandra could be a major NPC but not a companion. It's interesting that when I really think about it the only people I'd actually date are Sigrun and MAYBE Merrill though again I kind of ship Carver/Merrill and she's just to young looking for my mid thirties Hawke. Now I don't think age is an issue in love but emotional maturity is, because someone my age generally just can't understand taking care of fourteen kids or an invalid. Basically my biggest problems tend to be, boxers or briefs not that someone my age can't/doesn't handle that stuff it's just culturally my Hawke and Merrill wouldn't be able to mesh. 

Anyway Gaylan would be a cool addition as long as he stayed away from my Cass:devil: If she is an NPC however he can have her all he wants and I'll just have to get used to whoever I'm introduced to. I'm waiting for a true Velanna romance, where she/he hates me at first but following some event we either release the sexual tension or find common ground. I feel like if someone has a disagreement with the Inquisitor that shouldn't completely change however depending on my choices/manipulations Fenris for example might become a quasi-templar or simply let go of his hate for all mages and focus on the specific issue i.e. the Magisters.

[brushyourteeth]

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

berelinde wrote...

Regarding the thing about being torn about who to romance, I'm not sure. I would *love* to agonize about who to romance, but if the survey was legit, I don't see that happening. Tal Vashoth guy is a big drinker, a trait I consider to be the polar opposite of sexy. Dorian *might* stand a chance, but only if he didn't look like Danarius. Cole? Just no. Of course, if the survey listings weren't on the menu, as it were, and if the party includes Galyan, I could definitely see myself struggling over which one to pick.

Neither previous game presented me with that challenge. I loved Zevran, but I liked Alistair more. It got to the point where the only way I could romance Zevran was if I ran a male PC. And if that happened, Zevran was the only choice because of my intense dislike for Leliana and the fact that I like Morrigan, but I don't find her attractive. In DA2, I found the the combination of sweet, corny, and needy too overwhelmingly attractive to resist, so while I loved Isabela, I couldn't drag Hawke away from Anders. I've finally got a character who can romance Fenris (he's an ultra-aggressive Hawke with no patience for tenderness), but I can't tell you how many character attempts it took to get to this point. It was always

Me: I'm not going to flirt with Anders this time.
Sis: You will.
Me: I'll be strong.
Anders: Underneath that scruffy exterior, I think you've got a bit of a soft heart yourself.
Hawke: (Flirt, flirt, flirt)
Sis: You were saying?
Me: Don't judge me.

Anyway, Galyan could give Cullen a run for his money, but none of the options from he survey would give him much competition. Unless magister dude is hotter than a ghost-pepper pizza.

What don't you like about Leliana Berelinde? Anyway to be honest the female choices for DA3 are looking rather one sided as well (at least for me). Sera's description to me is just not appealing at all, to generic in the elven thief thing though obviously it's not enough to make a final decision since a lot is subject to change and for all I know Cassandra could be a major NPC but not a companion. It's interesting that when I really think about it the only people I'd actually date are Sigrun and MAYBE Merrill though again I kind of ship Carver/Merrill and she's just to young looking for my mid thirties Hawke. Now I don't think age is an issue in love but emotional maturity is, because someone my age generally just can't understand taking care of fourteen kids or an invalid. Basically my biggest problems tend to be, boxers or briefs not that someone my age can't/doesn't handle that stuff it's just culturally my Hawke and Merrill wouldn't be able to mesh. 

Anyway Gaylan would be a cool addition as long as he stayed away from my Cass:devil: If she is an NPC however he can have her all he wants and I'll just have to get used to whoever I'm introduced to. I'm waiting for a true Velanna romance, where she/he hates me at first but following some event we either release the sexual tension or find common ground. I feel like if someone has a disagreement with the Inquisitor that shouldn't completely change however depending on my choices/manipulations Fenris for example might become a quasi-templar or simply let go of his hate for all mages and focus on the specific issue i.e. the Magisters.

Cassandra? Velanna? Hmm. Someone likes to be yelled at....   

Seriously though, I can respect a man that appreciates a strong woman! *applauds*

[Danny Boy 7]

brushyourteeth wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

berelinde wrote...

Regarding the thing about being torn about who to romance, I'm not sure. I would *love* to agonize about who to romance, but if the survey was legit, I don't see that happening. Tal Vashoth guy is a big drinker, a trait I consider to be the polar opposite of sexy. Dorian *might* stand a chance, but only if he didn't look like Danarius. Cole? Just no. Of course, if the survey listings weren't on the menu, as it were, and if the party includes Galyan, I could definitely see myself struggling over which one to pick.

Neither previous game presented me with that challenge. I loved Zevran, but I liked Alistair more. It got to the point where the only way I could romance Zevran was if I ran a male PC. And if that happened, Zevran was the only choice because of my intense dislike for Leliana and the fact that I like Morrigan, but I don't find her attractive. In DA2, I found the the combination of sweet, corny, and needy too overwhelmingly attractive to resist, so while I loved Isabela, I couldn't drag Hawke away from Anders. I've finally got a character who can romance Fenris (he's an ultra-aggressive Hawke with no patience for tenderness), but I can't tell you how many character attempts it took to get to this point. It was always

Me: I'm not going to flirt with Anders this time.
Sis: You will.
Me: I'll be strong.
Anders: Underneath that scruffy exterior, I think you've got a bit of a soft heart yourself.
Hawke: (Flirt, flirt, flirt)
Sis: You were saying?
Me: Don't judge me.

Anyway, Galyan could give Cullen a run for his money, but none of the options from he survey would give him much competition. Unless magister dude is hotter than a ghost-pepper pizza.

What don't you like about Leliana Berelinde? Anyway to be honest the female choices for DA3 are looking rather one sided as well (at least for me). Sera's description to me is just not appealing at all, to generic in the elven thief thing though obviously it's not enough to make a final decision since a lot is subject to change and for all I know Cassandra could be a major NPC but not a companion. It's interesting that when I really think about it the only people I'd actually date are Sigrun and MAYBE Merrill though again I kind of ship Carver/Merrill and she's just to young looking for my mid thirties Hawke. Now I don't think age is an issue in love but emotional maturity is, because someone my age generally just can't understand taking care of fourteen kids or an invalid. Basically my biggest problems tend to be, boxers or briefs not that someone my age can't/doesn't handle that stuff it's just culturally my Hawke and Merrill wouldn't be able to mesh. 

Anyway Gaylan would be a cool addition as long as he stayed away from my Cass:devil: If she is an NPC however he can have her all he wants and I'll just have to get used to whoever I'm introduced to. I'm waiting for a true Velanna romance, where she/he hates me at first but following some event we either release the sexual tension or find common ground. I feel like if someone has a disagreement with the Inquisitor that shouldn't completely change however depending on my choices/manipulations Fenris for example might become a quasi-templar or simply let go of his hate for all mages and focus on the specific issue i.e. the Magisters.

Cassandra? Velanna? Hmm. Someone likes to be yelled at....   

Seriously though, I can respect a man that appreciates a strong woman! *applauds*

I just want the chars to have a little bit of their own minds, not so much that no matter what I say they basically don't change *glares at Fenris* but not so much that they agree with everything I say. I mean the best part of helping someone with something isn't doing it for them but getting them to be able to do it for themselves, to come to the conclusion of their own. Thats my opinion anyway.

[berelinde]

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

What don't you like about Leliana Berelinde? Anyway to be honest the female choices for DA3 are looking rather one sided as well (at least for me). Sera's description to me is just not appealing at all, to generic in the elven thief thing though obviously it's not enough to make a final decision since a lot is subject to change and for all I know Cassandra could be a major NPC but not a companion. It's interesting that when I really think about it the only people I'd actually date are Sigrun and MAYBE Merrill though again I kind of ship Carver/Merrill and she's just to young looking for my mid thirties Hawke. Now I don't think age is an issue in love but emotional maturity is, because someone my age generally just can't understand taking care of fourteen kids or an invalid. Basically my biggest problems tend to be, boxers or briefs not that someone my age can't/doesn't handle that stuff it's just culturally my Hawke and Merrill wouldn't be able to mesh. 

Anyway Gaylan would be a cool addition as long as he stayed away from my Cass:devil: If she is an NPC however he can have her all he wants and I'll just have to get used to whoever I'm introduced to. I'm waiting for a true Velanna romance, where she/he hates me at first but following some event we either release the sexual tension or find common ground. I feel like if someone has a disagreement with the Inquisitor that shouldn't completely change however depending on my choices/manipulations Fenris for example might become a quasi-templar or simply let go of his hate for all mages and focus on the specific issue i.e. the Magisters.

What don't I like about Leliana? It's hard to verbalize. I distrust people who claim to be singled out by some deity as the recipient of prophetic visions. I have nothing against devotion, nor do I dislike religious people, but when I hear somebody claim to be "the Chosen One," my first thought is that they are attempting to advance their own agenda by playing on the piety of others. Given Leliana's past as a bard and political manipulator, this is not an unreasonable assumption. Also, she is way, way too "girly" for my tastes. I am not girly. I do like puppies and flowers, but "cutesy" makes me want to scream "Grow up!" It probably doesn't help that I was always a tomboy or that I was taunted for most of my time in school because people thought I was a lesbian. I'm not, nor do I believe there's anything wrong or abnormal about people who are, but life in the late '70s and early '80s was very different than it is now. People perceived as gay were ostracized completely.

More later. Got to go to a meeting.

[LolaLei]

Leliana grew on me after I played her DLC, but I do find her a bit cringe with the whole "eyelashes like butterflies" thing. :-S

Berelinde: I had the same trouble at school... hell, I get the same thing now occasionally, except now I find it funny and play on it.

[Dreamlover2012]

R2s Muse wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...



Do you know who this is? I do...and the answer just might blow your mind....

LOL Danny, you tease! You didn't add in the artist's tease that this is a dwarf lady for the upcoming comic series... ahem, the one that focuses on Varric's  backstory...

Beueller...? Bueller...? Bueller...? 

WHAT??   If that's who I think it is.....

[Dreamlover2012]

berelinde wrote...

Regarding the thing about being torn about who to romance, I'm not sure. I would *love* to agonize about who to romance, but if the survey was legit, I don't see that happening. Tal Vashoth guy is a big drinker, a trait I consider to be the polar opposite of sexy. Dorian *might* stand a chance, but only if he didn't look like Danarius. Cole? Just no. Of course, if the survey listings weren't on the menu, as it were, and if the party includes Galyan, I could definitely see myself struggling over which one to pick.

Neither previous game presented me with that challenge. I loved Zevran, but I liked Alistair more. It got to the point where the only way I could romance Zevran was if I ran a male PC. And if that happened, Zevran was the only choice because of my intense dislike for Leliana and the fact that I like Morrigan, but I don't find her attractive. In DA2, I found the the combination of sweet, corny, and needy too overwhelmingly attractive to resist, so while I loved Isabela, I couldn't drag Hawke away from Anders. I've finally got a character who can romance Fenris (he's an ultra-aggressive Hawke with no patience for tenderness), but I can't tell you how many character attempts it took to get to this point. It was always

Me: I'm not going to flirt with Anders this time.
Sis: You will.
Me: I'll be strong.
Anders: Underneath that scruffy exterior, I think you've got a bit of a soft heart yourself.
Hawke: (Flirt, flirt, flirt)
Sis: You were saying?
Me: Don't judge me.

Anyway, Galyan could give Cullen a run for his money, but none of the options from he survey would give him much competition. Unless magister dude is hotter than a ghost-pepper pizza.

I had the same problem

[thejellnuggz]

Holy ballsacks it makes me happy so many of you replied :'D
I haven't seen the DA movie thing (Is it called Dawn of the Seeker? I think it is) so I don't know all that much about Galyan, but I looked him up on the wikia and I think he'd be a pretty interesting romance option.

And I agree with Berelinde (AM I EVEN SUPPOSED TO PUT A CAPITAL LETTER FOR THIS?!), I'm not a huge fan of Leliana either, I don't know, I usually play as an elf or a dwarf and am usually always anti-chantry (Seriously, they expect to spread peace by only appreciating human non-mages who devote their lives to the Maker and hating those that don't? Logic?! Baby where we're going we don't need logic.), and how she's all "The Maker has love for all. LOVE THE MAKER!" towards my Warden/s is kind of annoying. In my new playthrough as a city elf I'm not recruiting her, not that my decisions matter, considering she comes back from the dead anyway - thanks Bioware

[thejellnuggz]

And yes, I also had the same problem with Anders too, I mean, despite him being more whiney than I would like, he is still a decent character and I think a romance with him adds more on to the story. The Champion is in love with the man who destroyed the chantry.

It just sounds so cool :B

[brushyourteeth]

R2s Muse wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...



Do you know who this is? I do...and the answer just might blow your mind....

LOL Danny, you tease! You didn't add in the artist's tease that this is a dwarf lady for the upcoming comic series... ahem, the one that focuses on Varric's  backstory...

Beueller...? Bueller...? Bueller...? 

A dwarf, you say? Makes sense. She has a chest almost as nice as Varric's! 

[Jinx]

Hey ladies....Any news?

Modifié par cacey lee, 30 novembre 2012 - 05:16 .

[Danny Boy 7]

berelinde wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

What don't you like about Leliana Berelinde? Anyway to be honest the female choices for DA3 are looking rather one sided as well (at least for me). Sera's description to me is just not appealing at all, to generic in the elven thief thing though obviously it's not enough to make a final decision since a lot is subject to change and for all I know Cassandra could be a major NPC but not a companion. It's interesting that when I really think about it the only people I'd actually date are Sigrun and MAYBE Merrill though again I kind of ship Carver/Merrill and she's just to young looking for my mid thirties Hawke. Now I don't think age is an issue in love but emotional maturity is, because someone my age generally just can't understand taking care of fourteen kids or an invalid. Basically my biggest problems tend to be, boxers or briefs not that someone my age can't/doesn't handle that stuff it's just culturally my Hawke and Merrill wouldn't be able to mesh. 

Anyway Gaylan would be a cool addition as long as he stayed away from my Cass:devil: If she is an NPC however he can have her all he wants and I'll just have to get used to whoever I'm introduced to. I'm waiting for a true Velanna romance, where she/he hates me at first but following some event we either release the sexual tension or find common ground. I feel like if someone has a disagreement with the Inquisitor that shouldn't completely change however depending on my choices/manipulations Fenris for example might become a quasi-templar or simply let go of his hate for all mages and focus on the specific issue i.e. the Magisters.

What don't I like about Leliana? It's hard to verbalize. I distrust people who claim to be singled out by some deity as the recipient of prophetic visions. I have nothing against devotion, nor do I dislike religious people, but when I hear somebody claim to be "the Chosen One," my first thought is that they are attempting to advance their own agenda by playing on the piety of others. Given Leliana's past as a bard and political manipulator, this is not an unreasonable assumption. Also, she is way, way too "girly" for my tastes. I am not girly. I do like puppies and flowers, but "cutesy" makes me want to scream "Grow up!" It probably doesn't help that I was always a tomboy or that I was taunted for most of my time in school because people thought I was a lesbian. I'm not, nor do I believe there's anything wrong or abnormal about people who are, but life in the late '70s and early '80s was very different than it is now. People perceived as gay were ostracized completely.

More later. Got to go to a meeting.

Understandable ty for answering. I always labeled her as either a little koo koo, a bit to devoted or a kind of refrence to Joan of Ark since in a broad sense there stories aren't to different. Her slides at the end of the game if she isn't hardened always made me think that she wasn't making it up however subsequent appearances have made her connection to the Maker a bit more vague. She is extremely girly which for better or worse seems to be because Morrigan is er less so.

An issue I'm having with the romances for men is that they all seem to be the happy go lucky teen and the oversexed seductress 30yr old. Not that either are issues, nor am I saying that that is the basis or even a truly prominent piece of their characters but it seems to fall into that broad archetype.

One of the things I was soorly dissapointed with (though I got over it) was that I couldn't romance Samara in ME2. She was this older traveled woman, not only experienced and cultured but funny and dedicated when she wanted to be. Idk I guess what I want is a more cultured romance option, not that the ones we have aren't but it'd be nice to have a super sexy, intelligent woman who doesn't go on about how great she is (Morrigan), who is able to pull off being sexually appealing without having to resort to outright euphanisms (Isabela) but who also isn't going through some angsty, all consuming issue. 

Sorry for the run on sentence

[berelinde]

You know, Danny, they've been having that problem with female romanceables since BG2. Aerie=cutesy virgin. Jaheira=disturbingly maternal cougar. Viconia=tramp with issues. I was delighted with the females in DA2 because I felt that to a large extent, they broke out of that mold. Isabela owned her sexuality, but she wasn't as shallow as she pretended to be. She was a hedonist, but she was very protective of her friends' feelings. Look at how she treated Merrill. She never accused her of being silly or stupid. Instead, she focused on Merrill's compassion and sweetness. Look at how she treated Aveline. Sure, she busted Aveline's chops about being mannish, but she never accused her of being less of a woman because of it. She chose "safe" subjects for her ribbing, subjects that would get a reaction, but not ones that would make the listener feel bad about who or what they were. She built the others up without patronizing them.

As for Merrill, she was sweet and inexperienced, but she was not stupid. She knew that what she was doing was risky (and she knew in precisely which ways), but her love for her people was great enough for her to risk it anyway. She did not always make the best choices, but you can't hate somebody for that. We all do it.

My knowledge of Merrill and her motivations is not as extensive as it could be. I adore her as a character, but since I play DPS mages, I don't take her out as much as I should and therefore, I miss a lot of her banters.

[brushyourteeth]

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

An issue I'm having with the romances for men is that they all seem to be the happy go lucky teen and the oversexed seductress 30yr old. Not that either are issues, nor am I saying that that is the basis or even a truly prominent piece of their characters but it seems to fall into that broad archetype.

One of the things I was soorly dissapointed with (though I got over it) was that I couldn't romance Samara in ME2. She was this older traveled woman, not only experienced and cultured but funny and dedicated when she wanted to be. Idk I guess what I want is a more cultured romance option, not that the ones we have aren't but it'd be nice to have a super sexy, intelligent woman who doesn't go on about how great she is (Morrigan), who is able to pull off being sexually appealing without having to resort to outright euphanisms (Isabela) but who also isn't going through some angsty, all consuming issue. 

Sorry for the run on sentence

I think that was put really well, and I see your point. There's one that's (maybe) too cutesey and one that's (maybe) too mature. And also reluctant to begin a real relationship, whereas the other one jumps into the commitment stuff with both feet.

I personally was really disappointed with the romance options for guy-mancers in DAII, and I really have nothing to complain about since Origins gave my Alistair and both games let me at least perv on Cullen. So I can just imagine how irritating that must be for lady-mancers! Hopefully DAIII gives you something new to be excited about.

My husband was super upset that he couldn't romance Aveline! But looking back on it, Aveline seemed completely underwhelming to me as a character in her first pre-DAII release descriptions, and she turned out to be the most well-fleshed-out character in the whole party for me. Maybe someone like Sera could (hopefully) surprise you in the same way and be romanceable? *fingers crossed*

Modifié par brushyourteeth, 30 novembre 2012 - 05:37 .