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#28426
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R2s Muse wrote...

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You know, a companion betrayal could still be new if it was more like you'd been duped from the beginning by having one of the bad guys unknowingly as your companion. Like, someone who was assigned so infiltrate your group and spy on you ...but then later has a change of heart... or not, depending on your approval levels.


If it was done well and if the character's sole purpose was to betray you at the most opportune moment and he/she actually does it that would be cool. I like the idea of getting to know the companion over again, like maybe he/she uses an alias while putting enough truth in to sell the lie but when you forgive them they sort of tell you all about them.

I'm sure they could do a great job I just dunno how much betrayal I can take before I start rolling my eyes.

Me: Oh you're betraying me? Get in line!!!!

Yeah, I know what you mean... but honestly, I don't know that they've done the classic personal betrayal things too much. I guess I don't really see Anders's erm, demolitionary proclivities as so much a personal betrayal as a big shock that I just really didn't know him as well as I thought. It's not like he got involved with me solely to gain access to my house, and then moved in with me and blew up the Hawke estate, if you see what I mean. I suppose he did betray my trust by potentially making me an accessory to making  and planting the bomb, but I guess... I dunno, in my case, the first word I would use wouldn't have been betrayal. Maybe I just think of it differently...

I'd agree with Isabela, since she takes the book right from under you and splits.

Not to say you are not perfectly justified in being over the whole betrayal trope... just saying I may still be primed for some! ;)


Nah I agree with you. Anders is a minor betrayal, but when I think of what he did I sort of involve myself far to much. I basically helped him murder innocents albeit for a good cause I just can't get behind someone who kills for a cause whatever it is. Soldiers are one thing, I mean they sign up for it, but civilians are another. And even then I'd rather someone constantly run, though if they turn and fight I can't argue with them.

I'm not OVER betrayal so much as it's become less of a betrayal as in I expect it now.

Me: So which one of you is going  to betray me...

Them: You're just paranoid.

Me: No! Loghain did it, Isabela did it, Anders to (kind of) ONE of you is going to bend me over and bone me!

If I don't expect it, or if it is so interesting despite me knowing it's coming I'll be fine, it's just it happened so much in the last game that I'm waiting for maybe a nemesis that makes me excited. Maybe someone who actually beats our character like Kai Leng in ME3. He won several times, even offed Thane (I had my revenge though) but he sort of mirrored Shepard.

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I think my first ever experience of a BioWare betrayal was the best, whilst playing Jade Empire (I was late to the BW scene lol), I totally didn't see it coming and I was like OMFG!!!

Best. Surprise. Ever!

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As for the Cassandra post. I was aware of that elevator image for awhile I think you guys basically said that it was probably just an example rather than a solid in-game object. I mean she could be and I'd be SOOO happy but if she isn't I'll be disappointed by meh.

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Danny Boy 7 wrote...

As for the Cassandra post. I was aware of that elevator image for awhile I think you guys basically said that it was probably just an example rather than a solid in-game object. I mean she could be and I'd be SOOO happy but if she isn't I'll be disappointed by meh.


I think she's a sure thing to be in DA3 in some capacity, same as Cullen. I'm 95% sure that she'll be a companion.

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Danny Boy 7 wrote...

As for the Cassandra post. I was aware of that elevator image for awhile I think you guys basically said that it was probably just an example rather than a solid in-game object. I mean she could be and I'd be SOOO happy but if she isn't I'll be disappointed by meh.

  I think it's more the point that the one solid character piece of concept art we've scene has now been confirmed to be Cassandra, via that elevator pic confirmation. :shrug: doesn't mean she's in... but pretty suspect nonetheless...

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Some tease-y DA3 tweets:

@Mike_Laidlaw
Got to chat with a couple of DA fans at the office yesterday. They were super cool, so I showed them the [redacted] and a [redacted] fight.

@Mike_Laidlaw
Sadly, we’re all legally bound to not [redacted] about the [redacted] [redacted]. (It’s a fun word to type, it turns out)

‏@davidgaider
Writing this character... it's like going home again. :)

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charlottecorday wrote...

Some tease-y DA3 tweets:

@Mike_Laidlaw
Got to chat with a couple of DA fans at the office yesterday. They were super cool, so I showed them the [redacted] and a [redacted] fight.

@Mike_Laidlaw
Sadly, we’re all legally bound to not [redacted] about the [redacted] [redacted]. (It’s a fun word to type, it turns out)

‏@davidgaider
Writing this character... it's like going home again. :)


Such teases!

Soooo if you visit the BioWare studios, they show you secrets? Tsk, balls to living too far away to storm the place!

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We can always play Mad Libs with those tweets... I need 2 nouns, 2 adjectives and 1 verb. LOL

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I wonder what character David Gaider is talking about??? UGH!!

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Dreamlover2012 wrote...

I wonder what character David Gaider is talking about??? UGH!!


"It's like going home again. :)" - Hm, I wonder what that means? Home as in it reminds him of a character he wrote in the past maybe? Or perhaps it feels like going home because it's a character he wrote in one of the previous DA games (like Alistair, Shale or Fenris?), or literally that it reminds him of someone from his home IRL?

I don't think I can wait until Spring for more details. Apparently they want to "be pretty open about gameplay in the future and tight-lipped about the story.

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I was thinking maybe it's a previous character he's wrote before. He's the writer for a lot of characters. He wrote Cassandra, didn't he? Perhaps he's talking about her. Or Rhys. Or Alistair? I could keep going but I think you get it. Lol

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Also, another random thought- Fiona popped up in Asunder (Her line about Anders blowing up the Chantry made me giggle) Do you think she'll show up in some way? I think it'd be kind of cool to see her.

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Dreamlover2012 wrote...

I was thinking maybe it's a previous character he's wrote before. He's the writer for a lot of characters. He wrote Cassandra, didn't he? Perhaps he's talking about her. Or Rhys. Or Alistair? I could keep going but I think you get it. Lol


LOL doesn't narrow down the possibilities at all does it! :lol:

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LolaLei wrote...

Dreamlover2012 wrote...

I was thinking maybe it's a previous character he's wrote before. He's the writer for a lot of characters. He wrote Cassandra, didn't he? Perhaps he's talking about her. Or Rhys. Or Alistair? I could keep going but I think you get it. Lol


LOL doesn't narrow down the possibilities at all does it! :lol:


LOL not even a little bit. Image IPB

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Dreamlover2012 wrote...

Also, another random thought- Fiona popped up in Asunder (Her line about Anders blowing up the Chantry made me giggle) Do you think she'll show up in some way? I think it'd be kind of cool to see her.


That would be interesting! I'm wondering if we will run into Rhys and Evangeline at some point in passing... or maybe Adrian in the thick of the mage rebellion with Fiona? Gah, I need to play this bloody game!

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LolaLei wrote...

Dreamlover2012 wrote...

Also, another random thought- Fiona popped up in Asunder (Her line about Anders blowing up the Chantry made me giggle) Do you think she'll show up in some way? I think it'd be kind of cool to see her.


That would be interesting! I'm wondering if we will run into Rhys and Evangeline at some point in passing... or maybe Adrian in the thick of the mage rebellion with Fiona? Gah, I need to play this bloody game!


I'm thinking Fiona will probably make an appearance simply because she was the one pushing most for seperation of the Chantry.

And Ugh, I know! Or at least fast forward to Spring so we can get some more concrete information. Lol

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Dreamlover2012 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Dreamlover2012 wrote...

Also, another random thought- Fiona popped up in Asunder (Her line about Anders blowing up the Chantry made me giggle) Do you think she'll show up in some way? I think it'd be kind of cool to see her.


That would be interesting! I'm wondering if we will run into Rhys and Evangeline at some point in passing... or maybe Adrian in the thick of the mage rebellion with Fiona? Gah, I need to play this bloody game!


I'm thinking Fiona will probably make an appearance simply because she was the one pushing most for seperation of the Chantry.

And Ugh, I know! Or at least fast forward to Spring so we can get some more concrete information. Lol


I've got that Thedas lore/concept art book on pre-order, just in case there are any DA3 details in there lol.

#28443
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Please Please Please Maker...let them have a trailer at the VGA Awards next Friday!

Trailers do no show much. PLEASE :unsure::wizard::unsure:

Modifié par Melca36, 02 décembre 2012 - 02:41 .


#28444
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LolaLei wrote...

Dreamlover2012 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Dreamlover2012 wrote...

Also, another random thought- Fiona popped up in Asunder (Her line about Anders blowing up the Chantry made me giggle) Do you think she'll show up in some way? I think it'd be kind of cool to see her.


That would be interesting! I'm wondering if we will run into Rhys and Evangeline at some point in passing... or maybe Adrian in the thick of the mage rebellion with Fiona? Gah, I need to play this bloody game!


I'm thinking Fiona will probably make an appearance simply because she was the one pushing most for seperation of the Chantry.

And Ugh, I know! Or at least fast forward to Spring so we can get some more concrete information. Lol


I've got that Thedas lore/concept art book on pre-order, just in case there are any DA3 details in there lol.


Wha??? Image IPB

#28445
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meanieweenie wrote...

We can always play Mad Libs with those tweets... I need 2 nouns, 2 adjectives and 1 verb. LOL


I'll play!  

Nouns: nugs, smallclothes
adjectives: sandy, ugly
verb: twirling

#28446
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Dreamlover2012 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Dreamlover2012 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Dreamlover2012 wrote...

Also, another random thought- Fiona popped up in Asunder (Her line about Anders blowing up the Chantry made me giggle) Do you think she'll show up in some way? I think it'd be kind of cool to see her.


That would be interesting! I'm wondering if we will run into Rhys and Evangeline at some point in passing... or maybe Adrian in the thick of the mage rebellion with Fiona? Gah, I need to play this bloody game!


I'm thinking Fiona will probably make an appearance simply because she was the one pushing most for seperation of the Chantry.

And Ugh, I know! Or at least fast forward to Spring so we can get some more concrete information. Lol


I've got that Thedas lore/concept art book on pre-order, just in case there are any DA3 details in there lol.


Wha??? Image IPB


You didn't know? Hang on, lemme find the details!

#28447
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Here ya go:

http://uk.kotaku.com...n-age--universe

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LolaLei wrote...

Here ya go:

http://uk.kotaku.com...n-age--universe


I preordered it too :wizard:

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Did you guys catch the last Gaider tweet?

#28450
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Melca36 wrote...

Did you guys catch the last Gaider tweet?

erm, more detail?