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#2976
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Welcome to the party! We're on a crusade to get him as a companion/LI in DA3, we've been stalking the dev's on this forum making sure they're aware of his popularity lol.

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Hello. I just got back from my sister's house. I finished reading Asunder and lol I cried. I couldn't put down the book. I just want to say I hate the Lord Seeker and Adrian. The wiki says she was Rhys lover, but nothing in the book indicated that to me, since he refused twice to tell her he loved her.

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KristoffMcguffinSmuck wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

KristoffMcguffinSmuck wrote...

Ok, I think I may be the only guy who has a thing for cullen, hope Im not intruding ladies :P

Not the only! LOL And,  you're very welcome! Pull up a chair and stay a while! No matter what your interest, I think most of us here would agree that there are lots of romantic and non-romantic reasons he'd be fantastic as a DA3 companion. :D

Yay!, trust me I am hoping he is a romantic option in DA3, fell in love with him from the very start of magi origins, Thankyou for such an open friendly welcome Image IPB

Ah, *sigh*, I hear ya! And, with Bioware's wonderful dedication to giving the player options, we ALL might get to romance him! Here's hoping!

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Dunquixote wrote...

Hello. I just got back from my sister's house. I finished reading Asunder and lol I cried. I couldn't put down the book. I just want to say I hate the Lord Seeker and Adrian. The wiki says she was Rhys lover, but nothing in the book indicated that to me, since he refused twice to tell her he loved her.

Awesome! Yeah, I liked it, too. Although, with Adrian, IIRC he and Andrian were originally an item (not necessarily requiring that he *loved* her) and then chose to be just friends. She just never got over it. So, I believe the wiki is correct, but I'd have to go back to my kindle to confirm.

Mostly, I'm just excited about the mage-templar war details! (despite the calendar problems. grr)

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KristoffMcguffinSmuck wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

KristoffMcguffinSmuck wrote...

Ok, I think I may be the only guy who has a thing for cullen, hope Im not intruding ladies :P

Not the only! LOL And,  you're very welcome! Pull up a chair and stay a while! No matter what your interest, I think most of us here would agree that there are lots of romantic and non-romantic reasons he'd be fantastic as a DA3 companion. :D

Yay!, trust me I am hoping he is a romantic option in DA3, fell in love with him from the very start of magi origins, Thankyou for such an open friendly welcome Image IPB


Yes, yes and yes! Get your butt in here and give us your thoughts. Image IPB

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R2s Muse wrote...

Dunquixote wrote...

Hello. I just got back from my sister's house. I finished reading Asunder and lol I cried. I couldn't put down the book. I just want to say I hate the Lord Seeker and Adrian. The wiki says she was Rhys lover, but nothing in the book indicated that to me, since he refused twice to tell her he loved her.

Awesome! Yeah, I liked it, too. Although, with Adrian, IIRC he and Andrian were originally an item (not necessarily requiring that he *loved* her) and then chose to be just friends. She just never got over it. So, I believe the wiki is correct, but I'd have to go back to my kindle to confirm.

Mostly, I'm just excited about the mage-templar war details! (despite the calendar problems. grr)


IIRC?  And what calendar problems?

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Dunquixote wrote...

IIRC?  And what calendar problems?

Sorry, IIRC=if I recall correctly And early on he says they used to be more than friends (p 56). Later he says something about how the woman he used to love has been gone a long time. I thought there was something more obvious but it seems it's mostly small comments here n there.

And, you probably shouldn't get me started on the dates... LOL Basically, I think the book loses a year along the way. Instead I'll point you here, if you're interested, which is probably a better spot for spoilerific discussion of the book anyway. http://social.biowar...9570/28#9657446

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KristoffMcguffinSmuck wrote...

Ok, I think I may be the only guy who has a thing for cullen, hope Im not intruding ladies :P


OMG I love that a guy loves Cullen as well!!!

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KristoffMcguffinSmuck wrote...

Ok, I think I may be the only guy who has a thing for cullen, hope Im not intruding ladies :P


My, you are a rare creature! ;) And we welcome all Cullen fans. You're not intruding in the slightest. Pleased to meet you. :D

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Page needs a pic. Behold, Cullen's haircolor seen inside (via Aveline char swap).
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R2s Muse wrote...

Page needs a pic.
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Oh that is a lovely pic! :D:wub::kissing:

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I was thinking of possible ways in which Cullen might be introduced as a companion in DA3, I'd considered all the ones we've previously come up with but then I thought about that Asunder novel and how much of a jerk that Lord Seeker was, perhaps Cullen ends up summoned by him to join up with the rebel Templar cause because they think he'd be a handy resource given his predjudice towards Mages after the events of DA:O, but he refuses to join them after realising his attitude was wrong in DA2. They have him locked up and imprisioned/tortured along with the Mages they've caught and other thieves, murderers etc. Our PC is also locked up (either for being a Mage or stealing, fighting etc) you then take control as you use different tatics to escape, along the way you run into Cullen who also escaped, so you team up to battle your way to freedom. Alternatively maybe he could be in the cell next to yours and you've both witnessed each other getting tortured etc, one night you are awoken by Cullen releasing you from your shackles, he tells you that you're both busting out of there as you look over to see the bodies of 2 guards knocked out cold. From there he tells you he needs to find the Divine and asks you to accompany him as another witness/victim of Lord Seekers crimes (and for a Mages point of view if you play as one.)

What do you guys think?

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Aw cute pic of Cullen. Is there anyway to swap Donnic with female Hawke so that we'd get Cullen and Hawke up close face-to-face in that scene where Aveline first rescues Donnic in Lowtown.

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LolaLei wrote...

I was thinking of possible ways in which Cullen might be introduced as a companion in DA3, I'd considered all the ones we've previously come up with but then I thought about that Asunder novel and how much of a jerk that Lord Seeker was, perhaps Cullen ends up summoned by him to join up with the rebel Templar cause because they think he'd be a handy resource given his predjudice towards Mages after the events of DA:O, but he refuses to join them after realising his attitude was wrong in DA2. They have him locked up and imprisioned/tortured along with the Mages they've caught and other thieves, murderers etc. Our PC is also locked up (either for being a Mage or stealing, fighting etc) you then take control as you use different tatics to escape, along the way you run into Cullen who also escaped, so you team up to battle your way to freedom. Alternatively maybe he could be in the cell next to yours and you've both witnessed each other getting tortured etc, one night you are awoken by Cullen releasing you from your shackles, he tells you that you're both busting out of there as you look over to see the bodies of 2 guards knocked out cold. From there he tells you he needs to find the Divine and asks you to accompany him as another witness/victim of Lord Seekers crimes (and for a Mages point of view if you play as one.)

What do you guys think?

Lola, I love those ideas. Esp the last one, where he rescues you. Sorry, it deserves a squee! :wub: Of course, I happen to believe that Lambert himself is erm no longer with us... but I'd imagine someone equally dastardly replacing him.

And, I'll see what I can do about your char swap idea. I love those little smiles they give each other. Not sure I know how to swap out someone who's not a companion, tho (i.e. Donnic). Maybe someone else does...

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LolaLei wrote...

I was thinking of possible ways in which Cullen might be introduced as a companion in DA3, I'd considered all the ones we've previously come up with but then I thought about that Asunder novel and how much of a jerk that Lord Seeker was, perhaps Cullen ends up summoned by him to join up with the rebel Templar cause because they think he'd be a handy resource given his predjudice towards Mages after the events of DA:O, but he refuses to join them after realising his attitude was wrong in DA2. They have him locked up and imprisioned/tortured along with the Mages they've caught and other thieves, murderers etc. Our PC is also locked up (either for being a Mage or stealing, fighting etc) you then take control as you use different tatics to escape, along the way you run into Cullen who also escaped, so you team up to battle your way to freedom. Alternatively maybe he could be in the cell next to yours and you've both witnessed each other getting tortured etc, one night you are awoken by Cullen releasing you from your shackles, he tells you that you're both busting out of there as you look over to see the bodies of 2 guards knocked out cold. From there he tells you he needs to find the Divine and asks you to accompany him as another witness/victim of Lord Seekers crimes (and for a Mages point of view if you play as one.)

What do you guys think?


I LOVE this!

I also think Cullen would make an amazing double agent. Surely the Divine (who *SPOILER* is pro-mage) would have heard about Cullen's stand against Meredith and would be interested in making him a Seeker (which a lot of people think is the same as a Templar, but they're actually there to police the Templars and serve the Divine).  But shhh! No one would need to know (not even your playable character). He'd just keep going around as Knight Captain until the perfect moment came to reveal his true loyalties and smite the Divine's enemies.

Also..... *SPOILERS BELOW*



I'm honestly not sure what will happen with the Templars in DAIII. In Asunder, Lambert (who is a Seeker) separated the Templars from Chantry control. But that wasn't really his call to make in the first place, as he's a Seeker and not a Templar (I mean he was one once, but he doesn't really have any Templar authority anymore, just Seeker authority). And then he died! So even including the Templars who aren't super loyal to the Chantry, I'm not sure any Templars are really rebelling after Asunder. They only temporarily took orders from Lambert when he was alive and they certainly don't have to now that he's dead. 

It all just sounds like a hot mess.

Even hotter with Cullen involved, as he should be. Image IPB

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LolaLei wrote...

I was thinking of possible ways in which Cullen might be introduced as a companion in DA3, I'd considered all the ones we've previously come up with but then I thought about that Asunder novel and how much of a jerk that Lord Seeker was, perhaps Cullen ends up summoned by him to join up with the rebel Templar cause because they think he'd be a handy resource given his predjudice towards Mages after the events of DA:O, but he refuses to join them after realising his attitude was wrong in DA2. They have him locked up and imprisioned/tortured along with the Mages they've caught and other thieves, murderers etc. Our PC is also locked up (either for being a Mage or stealing, fighting etc) you then take control as you use different tatics to escape, along the way you run into Cullen who also escaped, so you team up to battle your way to freedom. Alternatively maybe he could be in the cell next to yours and you've both witnessed each other getting tortured etc, one night you are awoken by Cullen releasing you from your shackles, he tells you that you're both busting out of there as you look over to see the bodies of 2 guards knocked out cold. From there he tells you he needs to find the Divine and asks you to accompany him as another witness/victim of Lord Seekers crimes (and for a Mages point of view if you play as one.)

What do you guys think?


Yes please! I would love for the story to start in that way. Jump straight into the action without explaining everything - perhaps the PC suffered memory loss or repressed the horrendous stuff they witnessed which is why we need the annoying tutorial/explanation like things.

Cullen would definitely rather be locked up than betray the Divine. I don't think he'd  be a very good double agent though, I don't think he has it in him to lie convincingly.

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Perhaps if Bioware wanted to be a bit risky they could make it so that if you play as a female character the guards/Templars try to rape your character (like in the city Elf origins.) Picture the cinematics (seen from the PC's perspective like you're experiencing this through her eyes):

You've just had the **** kicked out of you by the guards/Templars who have thrown you back into your cell after a torture session, as you lie on the cold stone floor you look over to the cell next to you as you begin to drift out of consciousness, you see Cullen chained up, desperately tearing at his shackles shouting and swearing trying to attract attention away from you, everything looks and sounds blurry as you black out. As you start to regain conciousness you hear the muffled sounds of someone talking as you open your eyes blearily to find one of the guards/Templars leering over you with his hand covering your mouth as he tells you to stop struggling (making reference to the fact that he's about to rape you without directly saying it.) As you start to panic you notice a shadowy figure approach from behind, you cant see the mysterious figures face, but you catch a glimpse of amber coloured eyes reflected by the dull torch light as he hits the guard over the head, pulling him off you, snapping his neck as he searches the body for keys, freeing you from your restraints.

You still don't get the chance to discover the identity of this shadowy figure until you get outside, where he pulls you into a back alley somewhere as the Guards/Templars run passed, then you finally discover that it's Cullen as he pulls the hood down from his head or something. As the player, we dont get to see that it's Cullen in the cell next to you either because your vision is blurred as you pass out so it's all a big surprise until you've both escaped

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It would also make for a good entrance point for our PC's story, perhaps after she and Cullen visit the Divine they are given tasks they have to complete (like find Cassandra, who ends up becoming a companion) during which time they are thrown into events that rope our PC 'n' co into becoming heroes.

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^ that would be swoon-worthy.

EDIT: to contribute, I think that when the female PC regains consciousness after being rescued by the mysterious figure, she should look around at the surrounding cells and see everyone else has escaped. Even in a state of near-death I wouldn't want my protagonist to not care whether the guy who tried to take the heat off her earlier was still imprisoned or not :P

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CommanderJessica wrote...

^ that would be swoon-worthy.

EDIT: to contribute, I think that when the female PC regains consciousness after being rescued by the mysterious figure, she should look around at the surrounding cells and see everyone else has escaped. Even in a state of near-death I wouldn't want my protagonist to not care whether the guy who tried to take the heat off her earlier was still imprisoned or not :P


Well i was thinking they were the only two in that particular area of the dungeon still left alive, but during their escape they'd have the opportunity to free other prisoners. Perhaps freeing certain prisoners who were captured for things like murder could come back to bite you in the arse later on in the game, whilst freeing innocents could get you a discount in a certain store owned by said prisoner or whatever.

But yeah, she'd look to see if the guy in the next cell was still there and presume he's dead (not realising that it's Cullen) then once their outside she'd be like "oh it's you! How did you manage to escape" and he'd promise to tell her later after visiting the Divine.

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LolaLei wrote...

Well i was thinking they were the only two in that particular area of the dungeon still left alive, but during their escape they'd have the opportunity to free other prisoners. Perhaps freeing certain prisoners who were captured for things like murder could come back to bite you in the arse later on in the game, whilst freeing innocents could get you a discount in a certain store owned by said prisoner or whatever.

But yeah, she'd look to see if the guy in the next cell was still there and presume he's dead (not realising that it's Cullen) then once their outside she'd be like "oh it's you! How did you manage to escape" and he'd promise to tell her later after visiting the Divine.


Love that idea too.
Freeing all the prisoners could result in someone who is a major character being murdered and hindering a main quest.
Freeing none could result in all the prisoners being murdered as a consequence, one of whom could also have been a major character :P
I think there should be consequences EVERYWHERE!! :devil::devil::devil:

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Y'know, in my head I have a bunch of idea's of what DA3 will be like, ranging from class origins to companion quests that introduce each party member by playing as them in a short scene during the events just prior to meeting our PC (told in the form of a flashback when you ask the companions why they are in Orelais), to Orlesian balls, street festivals, romance scenes, dynamic weather etc.

I bet I'm gonna be so disappointed when DA3 turns out to be nothing at all like the version I have in my head LOL!

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Wow you guys! These are all some amazing ideas! And I like the notion that consequences should be everywhere. It makes a game replayable to the Nth degree. The idea of Cullen rescuing the PC is extremely swoon worthy. I don't suppose you might wanna fic it? =D Awesome ideas though!

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I guess I could attempt another fanfic, I was a bit put off after my last one got erased thanks to my ****ty computer lol.

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LolaLei wrote...

Aw cute pic of Cullen. Is there anyway to swap Donnic with female Hawke so that we'd get Cullen and Hawke up close face-to-face in that scene where Aveline first rescues Donnic in Lowtown.

So, my conclusion after trying the Aveline-Donnic swap, is that Donnic SUCKS to mod. Plus, don't really like his expressions on Cullen's face, but it definitely shows a more vulnerable side, getting his butt saved and all.  That said, here's the best I could do.

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EDIT: And, yes, I totally failed on switching Donnic's armor. Couldn't get it to swap with templar.

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