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[CuriousArtemis]

R2s Muse wrote...

Congrats on the job, MMG! Good luck on negotiating. Aim high! The rest of your life's earnings depend on it! (Just kidding... Well, not really...)

R2s Muse ... BUZZ KILLER 

[CuriousArtemis]

By the way I tried to celebrate tonight by buying comfort food... ate half a bowl of soup, three cookies, some Doritos and half a cinnamon role.

About... to... barf... LOL

But I have vodka for later so it's all good!

[meanieweenie]

I'm grizzled too so rest well, my friends! lol 40 is the new.... well the new over 30 anyway. I'd be curious to see a demographic done on fan ages for which characters. Are Cullen fans generally older? If so, why? I'm bored and this is what happens to my mind.

Congrats on the job, MMG!

[berelinde]

Oh, shucks, I'm an ass.

Congratulations, on your new job, Dr. moto! May you enjoy a secure, successful career.

[meanieweenie]

How's your back, berelinde? Hope you're not still achy from lifting chloroform. I want to ask why you had a case of chloroform in the first place but I'm almost afraid to. It didn't have anything to do with "put the lotion in the basket or else it gets the hose again" did it? LOL

[berelinde]

meanieweenie wrote...

How's your back, berelinde? Hope you're not still achy from lifting chloroform. I want to ask why you had a case of chloroform in the first place but I'm almost afraid to. It didn't have anything to do with "put the lotion in the basket or else it gets the hose again" did it? LOL

LOL No, I'm a chemist. Next time, I'll try to remember to leave the box on the ground and take the bottles out one by one. And the back is better. I spent an entire day lounging around and resting, and am worlds better for it.

[meanieweenie]

That's actually a pretty cool profession I would imagine. I'm just a kitchen chemist, which is hardly the same and the pay sucks. Lounging is good for the back, heart, mind and spirit so good on you! Maybe it's the universe's way of telling you to take a breather.

[deuce985]

I have a real bad habit of going around and murdering everything with a pulse when I get mad.

This silly quest bugged out on me in Skyrim and my game crashed. So...I got mad and decided to go on a werewolf killing spree in Whiterun. I morphed into a werewolf and just literally murdered the entire city(children included). Had a mod installed that allowed me to kill kids. I feel bad. Nothing but a wake of destruction and genocide in that city now. It's lifeless...

They had this poor merchant that kept running from me and he was escaping. I eventually hunted him down and killed the poor sap.

R.I.P. innocent Whiterun merchant who did nothing wrong.

Modifié par deuce985, 20 décembre 2012 - 02:34 .

[deuce985]

Wait, we have chemists in here? Giving Walt a run for his money on Breaking Bad?



*insert female chemist gif*

[LolaLei]

Congrats MMG!

As for the Inquisitor thing, as I said earlier I was speaking in pure hypotheticals. With regards to Mark Darrah's tweet, to me it felt like he'd pretty much dropped a clanger and said a little more than originally intended. Even if we are the Inquisitor doesn't mean we'll be aligned with any religious group, which the devs have already promised won't be the case.

Hypothetically, if we are part of the "new" Inquisition I personally would've given the group a name that wasn't associated with needless slaughter, but, perhaps that's the point? The DA team do like to mess with our heads in-game. Or perhaps they're giving us the chance to rewrite history and make the Inquisition memorable for something other than the abuse of power (unless you wanna go retro and take it back to it's roots of course lol).

Modifié par LolaLei, 20 décembre 2012 - 03:58 .

[deuce985]

I think Bioware will deviate away from what they've done in past games. I believe this time we'll be tasked with substantial power in the Inquisition. Whether it's leading it or at a position of extreme importance, we'll have authority. This will play right into what they've been preaching to use where you'll have to make hard decisions, new alliances/friends, and face the consequences at the end. They want to give us player/character agency back. What better way to do that than a character who has power? That means he/she controls everything.

They've even hinted we'll get a castle as a base of operations. It just leads me to believe as we're going around on our adventure, we will have to decide who is our friends and foes. That will later have consequences choosing one side or the other. I've seen Bioware hinting we will be controlling armies too. Perhaps some RTS elements in the game? This is basically a war that hits all of Thedas. Frostbite engine is also built to where it can handle something like this(or easier than the previous engine). Who is going to control armies? Surely not a peasant or someone in low command.

Inquisition doesn't necessarily have to be aligned with Chantry either. The old Inquisition was built to stop the dangers or magic in old Thedas following the First Blight. They later disbanded and made the organizations of the Templars/Seekers. It could be this time around war is ripping Thedas up so much, again, Inquisition needs to be formed where it isn't aligned with any particular organization. They're built to find out who is manipulating the current political strife and mayhem in Thedas.

That would only make sense to me that certain groups will likely crumble and possibly be absorbed under the Inquisition banner's cause. Which is to find out who is responsible for the current problems hammering Thedas. Just because you share a common cause with the Chantry, doesn't mean you have to serve them. Inquisition is likely a neutral group because it has to look at everything objectively. I mean, maybe even the Chantry is involved with the current problems? Who knows?

That's where backgrounds will likely play into our Inquisition. We would be former Seekers/Templars/Circle Mage, etc. We get rid of those titles to join the Inquisition for the better good and a single unified cause. Groups like Chantry/Templars are completely artificial within the Inquisition. 

Modifié par deuce985, 20 décembre 2012 - 04:04 .

[LolaLei]

Deuce: Good point! I'd forgotten that the Inquisition weren't affiliated with the Chantry when they first started out, and when they did finally join their name was changed, rendering their previous title obsolete.

Plus, if there's any truth about this "magical blast" and "something controlling events behind the scenes" then who better to reform than the Inquisition? Especially now the Templars have rebelled, so they can't be called upon to take up the reigns. I mean, the leak suggests that the Chantries leadership gets decimated, which would also include the Divine, so in theory it won't be her ordering people to reform the Inquisition anyway.

[LolaLei]

And clearly, if you can choose to play as a Mage class again, then this new Inquisition can't possibly along the same veins as the old, otherwise the game would be over pretty quickly LOL.

[deuce985]

LolaLei wrote...

Deuce: Good point! I'd forgotten that the Inquisition weren't affiliated with the Chantry when they first started out, and when they did finally join their name was changed, rendering their previous title obsolete.

Plus, if there's any truth about this "magical blast" and "something controlling events behind the scenes" then who better to reform than the Inquisition? Especially now the Templars have rebelled, so they can't be called upon to take up the reigns. I mean, the leak suggests that the Chantries leadership gets decimated, which would also include the Divine, so in theory it won't be her ordering people to reform the Inquisition anyway.

That's why I think some groups will be completely crumbled and that's where you get your background from. Since Templars are no more, all you have left with that is your background as a former Templar. You drop that banner for the Inquisition ideology. And obviously maybe people in the world will recognize you and mention your background.

If that leaked survey is correct, then it sounds like even Chantry is in complete turmoil. Which further proves that Inquisition will not be aligned with any group. They have their own reasons forming.

This is the third game in the franchise too. The previous two games had slower pacing. DA2 had much better pacing than DAO. The slower pacing is because you're building your character up. I don't think that will be the case in DA3. You'll be immediately thrown into a war and it makes no sense to have a "rags to riches" story, IMO. We don't have time to see us rising Inquisition ranks. Maybe if they did narrative like DA2 where it's over 10 years which they already confiormed it's not.

Something just tells me Bioware is going to make the game feel epic the minute you start it. You will see Thedas being tore down immediately, another huge benefit of the Frostbite engine. Remember, when they first built DAO they even talked about tearing their own world down because...well, it's their world. I believe it will be very similar to ME3. Reapers immediately hit and you're trying to stop that threat. All the while, the entire galaxy is in complete chaos. That allowed for better pacing in ME3. This is how DA3 will be. Another reason you'll have a character who can flex authority. He/She needs action immediately.

They spent an entire game building up this war, I just don't see it starting out slow again. We should be in the thick of things immediately.

Modifié par deuce985, 20 décembre 2012 - 04:18 .

[CuriousArtemis]

Deuce, if you're right, I hate to say it and sound like one of the haters, but DA3 is shaping up to a very disappointing game for me personally

And thanks for the congrats, you guys ^^ It's been years in the making, countless interviews at countless institutions, and finally I am offered a job a school in my hometown xD

[LolaLei]

The image of DA3 that I have in my head, is that everyone who wants to seek a peaceful solution (be it Mages, ex-Templars, nobility, peasants, brothers and sisters of the cloth etc) all attend this "peace gathering" but sh!t hits the fan during the "magical blast", so all those left alive in the wake of the destruction get themselves to safety and decide to form a group to end the madness by trying to reunite everyone with the goal of defeating this new evil/problem Thedas is facing. They decide to call themselves the "Inquisition" (for whatever reason) and then set about "investigating" stuff etc. Our protagonist is then tasked to gather a party of influential people (like Cullen, Cassandra etc) and also pick up a bunch of rag-tag followers along the way.

I can't imagine them turning the same trick as DA:O by killing off everyone except our protagonist and a small bunch of people, leaving him/her to gather their own army again.

[deuce985]

FFXIII-3...

[deuce985]

motomotogirl wrote...

Deuce, if you're right, I hate to say it and sound like one of the haters, but DA3 is shaping up to a very disappointing game for me personally

And thanks for the congrats, you guys ^^ It's been years in the making, countless interviews at countless institutions, and finally I am offered a job a school in my hometown xD

What part sounds disappointing to you? I'd have to see it in execution before I could make a call either way. It would have potential to be sure. Frosbite's capability should give Bioware a lot more freedom than they had in previous games. Their engine was a major bottleneck. That's the biggest X-Factor in DA3. It could end up completely changing the game for better or worse. I'm most excited to see what Bioware does with their exploration formula. This is perhaps the weakest aspect of all their games to me. Frosbite is built where huge environments are easy to make because Battlefield is built on massive levels(some of the biggest in FPS games).

LolaLei wrote...

The image of DA3 that I have in my head,
is that everyone who wants to seek a peaceful solution (be it Mages,
ex-Templars, nobility, peasants, brothers and sisters of the cloth etc)
all attend this "peace gathering" but sh!t hits the fan during the
"magical blast", so all those left alive in the wake of the destruction
get themselves to safety and decide to form a group to end the madness
by trying to reunite everyone with the goal of defeating this new
evil/problem Thedas is facing. They decide to call themselves the
"Inquisition" (for whatever reason) and then set about "investigating"
stuff etc. Our protagonist is then tasked to gather a party of
influential people (like Cullen, Cassandra etc) and also pick up a bunch
of rag-tag followers along the way.

I can't imagine them turning
the same trick as DA:O by killing off everyone except our protagonist
and a small bunch of people, leaving him/her to gather their own army
again.

Yea, that's basically how I'm seeing it.

Modifié par deuce985, 20 décembre 2012 - 04:30 .

[CuriousArtemis]

Well first I can't play as an elf which I was REALLY looking forward to. And now I have to play an all powerful guy instead of a bumbling innocent like the previous two (which is my preferred way to start off).

Stuff like graphics and what not don't bother me lol

[LolaLei]

deuce985 wrote...

FFXIII-3...

... It's been a while since I've said it, but that actually looks kinda good! I'll wait for honest reviews first though.

But anyway, I could see something similar happening with DA3, where it's essentially a race against time to prepare before Thedas gets completely ballsed up. I'm hoping it won't be completely fast paced 100% of the time though. Ideally I'd like the chance for our protagonist to have the chance to run around cities and other environments and really take in the views and experience what each place has to offer during "down time", maybe do a couple of light hearted quests that don't all include fighting 'n' fetch quests etc.

Modifié par LolaLei, 20 décembre 2012 - 04:35 .

[deuce985]

motomotogirl wrote...

Well first I can't play as an elf which I was REALLY looking forward to. And now I have to play an all powerful guy instead of a bumbling innocent like the previous two (which is my preferred way to start off).

Stuff like graphics and what not don't bother me lol

I prefer rags to riches myself in RPGs. Mostly because a big part of them is character progression in gameplay and story. It makes me feel like I'm evolving with that character.

It wouldn't be a dealbreaker for me but I prefer to build my character up too. Yea, I want race customization back too. I think that's a big mistake on Bioware's part. Doesn't make sense you're limited to human in a fantasy RPG, IMO.

I would be optimistic getting it on PC until I realize they're using Frostbite. Usually modding even without toolsets can fix that flaw but Frostbite is NOT a mod friendly engine at all. It's very complex. I'm not even sure if they have third-party tools that can hack the engine, which sucks...

That's something I missed a lot in DA2 and was actually shocked they never released a toolset...it was one reason I bought DA2.

[LolaLei]

motomotogirl wrote...

Well first I can't play as an elf which I was REALLY looking forward to. And now I have to play an all powerful guy instead of a bumbling innocent like the previous two (which is my preferred way to start off).

Stuff like graphics and what not don't bother me lol

My personal preference, like yours, would be to start out as an unknown, maybe a bit of an underdog for whatever reason and then gradually rise up to become a total badass, just cos I love a good underdog story lol.

I'm hoping they'll tell us the basic gist of DA3's story in Spring and explain to us whether we'll start off as a member of the Inquisition already, or join based on our own actions in first few opening scenes. Although, I don't hold much hope for the latter since there won't be any origin style prologues.

Modifié par LolaLei, 20 décembre 2012 - 04:44 .

[deuce985]

LolaLei wrote...

deuce985 wrote...

FFXIII-3...

... It's been a while since I've said it, but that actually looks kinda good! I'll wait for honest reviews first though.

But anyway, I could see something similar happening with DA3, where it's essentially a race against time to prepare before Thedas gets completely ballsed up. I'm hoping it won't be completely fast paced 100% of the time though. Ideally I'd like the chance for our protagonist to have the chance to run around cities and other environments and really take in the views and experience what each place has to offer during "down time", maybe do a couple of light hearted quests that don't all include fighting 'n' fetch quests etc.

Agree 100%. I'm a gamer with a variety of tastes. I even like action games and FPS. I did not like DA2's combat. It's not terrible but it's not good either. I'm a believer in pure combat systems in games. Either go for a pure action combat system or a pure CRPG combat like DAO. Don't try to put it between. It just comes off awkward. DA2 felt like it tried to be some kind of pseudo-action/CRPG hybrid. You had combat that was a lot faster but at the same time, it tried to be tactical with the little cross-combo spells and blocking chokepoints(whcih kinda failed with the spawn system).

I usually prefer RPGs to be a bit slower, unless you can make the actionish combat very interesting. A good game with good action? Dragon's Dogma. I liked the combat in that game and to be honest, Dragon Age 2 really isn't that far off from it. DD is how DA2's combat was probably aiming to be. I just have a problem when a game is moving 100mph and I have to input key commands. Especially if it involves strategy/tactics. That's why I suck at RTS games. You have to be an increidbly fast thinker to input things in those games.

Have you played XCOM? I like my games at that pace. I can take 30 minutes to prepare for combat if I want. I can strategically place everyone how I want before anyone engages. Could you imagine that game moving as a RTS at the pace DA2 moved? That's how I felt DA2's combat was on nightmare. I want strategic/tactically gameplay, I just don't want it at 100mph...

And I don't know why the DA forums says DA2 lacks tactics/strategy. That's a bunch of balogna if you play it on nightmare without cheating with mods...