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[Danny Boy 7]

LolaLei wrote...

That's something I'm curious about, the Divine being pro-mage... or at least leaning more towards the mages side than the Templars. It makes me wonder what her motivations are suddenly, baring in mind that she's probably been the Divine for years now and hasn't had any problems keeping the mages in the circle until now.

If I remember right her codex says she's always been a bit of a feather rustler/mage supporter which is why a good portion of the clerics/templars didn't like her and wanted her gone. Why she's made it more or less public I imagine is because the war has been ramping up and she might be trying to keep a war from breaking out.

In a more "evil" tone she might just be trying to keep herself neutral/mage supporty so regardless of who wins she's still Divine.

[LolaLei]

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

That's something I'm curious about, the Divine being pro-mage... or at least leaning more towards the mages side than the Templars. It makes me wonder what her motivations are suddenly, baring in mind that she's probably been the Divine for years now and hasn't had any problems keeping the mages in the circle until now.

If I remember right her codex says she's always been a bit of a feather rustler/mage supporter which is why a good portion of the clerics/templars didn't like her and wanted her gone. Why she's made it more or less public I imagine is because the war has been ramping up and she might be trying to keep a war from breaking out.

In a more "evil" tone she might just be trying to keep herself neutral/mage supporty so regardless of who wins she's still Divine.

Or she's secretly under the control of something more sinister.... unlikely but evil! 

Modifié par LolaLei, 10 janvier 2013 - 07:25 .

[Danny Boy 7]

LolaLei wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

That's something I'm curious about, the Divine being pro-mage... or at least leaning more towards the mages side than the Templars. It makes me wonder what her motivations are suddenly, baring in mind that she's probably been the Divine for years now and hasn't had any problems keeping the mages in the circle until now.

If I remember right her codex says she's always been a bit of a feather rustler/mage supporter which is why a good portion of the clerics/templars didn't like her and wanted her gone. Why she's made it more or less public I imagine is because the war has been ramping up and she might be trying to keep a war from breaking out.

In a more "evil" tone she might just be trying to keep herself neutral/mage supporty so regardless of who wins she's still Divine.

Or she's secretly under the control of something more sinister.... unlikely but evil! 

Gasp...a HAT DEMON!!!!! Seriously did you see her hat in Dawn of the Seeker....tres tres big.

[LolaLei]

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

That's something I'm curious about, the Divine being pro-mage... or at least leaning more towards the mages side than the Templars. It makes me wonder what her motivations are suddenly, baring in mind that she's probably been the Divine for years now and hasn't had any problems keeping the mages in the circle until now.

If I remember right her codex says she's always been a bit of a feather rustler/mage supporter which is why a good portion of the clerics/templars didn't like her and wanted her gone. Why she's made it more or less public I imagine is because the war has been ramping up and she might be trying to keep a war from breaking out.

In a more "evil" tone she might just be trying to keep herself neutral/mage supporty so regardless of who wins she's still Divine.

Or she's secretly under the control of something more sinister.... unlikely but evil! 

Gasp...a HAT DEMON!!!!! Seriously did you see her hat in Dawn of the Seeker....tres tres big.

It was pretty big! Maybe there's a tiny blood mage hiding inside it?

[LolaLei]

Tsk, look at this. They totally twisted what DG said in his Tumblr post:

http://www.eurogamer...er-david-gaider

[LolaLei]

Wow, I can't even find any new pictures or fan-art of Cullen. We really are low on topics aren't we lol.

[R2s Muse]

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

That's something I'm curious about, the Divine being pro-mage... or at least leaning more towards the mages side than the Templars. It makes me wonder what her motivations are suddenly, baring in mind that she's probably been the Divine for years now and hasn't had any problems keeping the mages in the circle until now.

If I remember right her codex says she's always been a bit of a feather rustler/mage supporter which is why a good portion of the clerics/templars didn't like her and wanted her gone. Why she's made it more or less public I imagine is because the war has been ramping up and she might be trying to keep a war from breaking out.

In a more "evil" tone she might just be trying to keep herself neutral/mage supporty so regardless of who wins she's still Divine.

She actually hasn't been Divine for that long. She started in 9:34, and one of the first thing she did was start Pharamond's experiments, since they say those were going on for five years. The Chantry folks didn't like her for her "wordly" past. Recall that she was Leliana's friend Dorothea from Leliana's Song.

I was thinking that she may just finally be a "voice of reason" as far as mage treatment is concerned, but it could also be politically motivated.

[LolaLei]

R2s Muse wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

That's something I'm curious about, the Divine being pro-mage... or at least leaning more towards the mages side than the Templars. It makes me wonder what her motivations are suddenly, baring in mind that she's probably been the Divine for years now and hasn't had any problems keeping the mages in the circle until now.

If I remember right her codex says she's always been a bit of a feather rustler/mage supporter which is why a good portion of the clerics/templars didn't like her and wanted her gone. Why she's made it more or less public I imagine is because the war has been ramping up and she might be trying to keep a war from breaking out.

In a more "evil" tone she might just be trying to keep herself neutral/mage supporty so regardless of who wins she's still Divine.

She actually hasn't been Divine for that long. She started in 9:34, and one of the first thing she did was start Pharamond's experiments, since they say those were going on for five years. The Chantry folks didn't like her for her "wordly" past. Recall that she was Leliana's friend Dorothea from Leliana's Song.

I was thinking that she may just finally be a "voice of reason" as far as mage treatment is concerned, but it could also be politically motivated.

Really? Hm, I better read those parts of the codex... I tend to skip the ones about the companions and stuff lol. Maybe she's had something big planned for a while then. Maybe she saw all this coming? 

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

Tsk, look at this. They totally twisted what DG said in his Tumblr post:

http://www.eurogamer...er-david-gaider

Hmm, I don't really see the point in that article. Shoddy  pseudo journalism. Almost half of it is just quoted directly from DG's tumblr post, the rest is just veiled innuendos about how the fans who have been driven away from BSN are the same fans apparently driven away by BW's turning EA-ified. Say what??  *sigh* Poor David Gaider. Even his attempts at positive, balanced sharing with the community are over-analyzed and turned on their head. It is a wonder that he, and the other devs, continue their fan intereactions.

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

That's something I'm curious about, the Divine being pro-mage... or at least leaning more towards the mages side than the Templars. It makes me wonder what her motivations are suddenly, baring in mind that she's probably been the Divine for years now and hasn't had any problems keeping the mages in the circle until now.

If I remember right her codex says she's always been a bit of a feather rustler/mage supporter which is why a good portion of the clerics/templars didn't like her and wanted her gone. Why she's made it more or less public I imagine is because the war has been ramping up and she might be trying to keep a war from breaking out.

In a more "evil" tone she might just be trying to keep herself neutral/mage supporty so regardless of who wins she's still Divine.

She actually hasn't been Divine for that long. She started in 9:34, and one of the first thing she did was start Pharamond's experiments, since they say those were going on for five years. The Chantry folks didn't like her for her "wordly" past. Recall that she was Leliana's friend Dorothea from Leliana's Song.

I was thinking that she may just finally be a "voice of reason" as far as mage treatment is concerned, but it could also be politically motivated.

Really? Hm, I better read those parts of the codex... I tend to skip the ones about the companions and stuff lol. Maybe she's had something big planned for a while then. Maybe she saw all this coming? 

Could be. Personally, I think she was deliberately gunning for change, but I sorta feel like Lambert breaking the Nevarran Accord was more abrupt and extreme a reaction than she would have liked. Up until the end of Asunder, she seems to be working hard to play both sides, so seeing everything suddenly go to h*ll all at once may not have been her design. Then again... surreptitiously announcing to the world that tranquility is reversable is not what I'd call subtle, incremental change. LOL 

edit: Where's Justinia's #1 Fan, brushyourteeth, when you need her??  LOL

Modifié par R2s Muse, 10 janvier 2013 - 08:13 .

[Danny Boy 7]

Oh for vagina's sake! Seriously the comments are the worst part of it all. It feels like the writer was simply trying to get a rise out of the community.

[Danny Boy 7]

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

That's something I'm curious about, the Divine being pro-mage... or at least leaning more towards the mages side than the Templars. It makes me wonder what her motivations are suddenly, baring in mind that she's probably been the Divine for years now and hasn't had any problems keeping the mages in the circle until now.

If I remember right her codex says she's always been a bit of a feather rustler/mage supporter which is why a good portion of the clerics/templars didn't like her and wanted her gone. Why she's made it more or less public I imagine is because the war has been ramping up and she might be trying to keep a war from breaking out.

In a more "evil" tone she might just be trying to keep herself neutral/mage supporty so regardless of who wins she's still Divine.

She actually hasn't been Divine for that long. She started in 9:34, and one of the first thing she did was start Pharamond's experiments, since they say those were going on for five years. The Chantry folks didn't like her for her "wordly" past. Recall that she was Leliana's friend Dorothea from Leliana's Song.

I was thinking that she may just finally be a "voice of reason" as far as mage treatment is concerned, but it could also be politically motivated.

Really? Hm, I better read those parts of the codex... I tend to skip the ones about the companions and stuff lol. Maybe she's had something big planned for a while then. Maybe she saw all this coming? 

Could be. Personally, I think she was deliberately gunning for change, but I sorta feel like Lambert breaking the Nevarran Accord was more abrupt and extreme a reaction than she would have liked. Up until the end of Asunder, she seems to be working hard to play both sides, so seeing everything suddenly go to h*ll all at once may not have been her design. Then again... surreptitiously announcing to the world that tranquility is reversable is not what I'd call subtle, incremental change. LOL 

edit: Where's Justinia's #1 Fan, brushyourteeth, when you need her??  LOL

It sounds like a politician who hears something good that they helped then proudly announcing it to the world before they hear the whole thing lol.

Scientist: So Senator JoeAmerica we've cured cancer...

JoeAmerica: Cured cancer?! Thats amazing! Hey world I funded the project that cured cancer!!!

Scientist: But it causes the patients to lose their legs and grow fins...

JoeAmerica: What now

*Angry mermaids/mermen stare at JoeAmerica*

[R2s Muse]

You know... I'm such an idiot!! I've talked round and round and round about how old Cassandra is, and the fact that the Kirkwall mention in Dawn of the Seeker is the rebellion in 9:21 as a boundary condition on Cassandra's age. But! The Divine in it is confirmed as Justinia V! So the movie can't take place any earlier than 9:34, making Cassandra no more than six years older than when we see her in the game interrogating Varric. I was convinced the movie had to be in the 9:20's because the Kirkwall ref... but guess not!

[R2s Muse]

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

Oh for vagina's sake! Seriously the comments are the worst part of it all. It feels like the writer was simply trying to get a rise out of the community.

OH dear. I'm glad I didn't read them then...

[R2s Muse]

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

That's something I'm curious about, the Divine being pro-mage... or at least leaning more towards the mages side than the Templars. It makes me wonder what her motivations are suddenly, baring in mind that she's probably been the Divine for years now and hasn't had any problems keeping the mages in the circle until now.

If I remember right her codex says she's always been a bit of a feather rustler/mage supporter which is why a good portion of the clerics/templars didn't like her and wanted her gone. Why she's made it more or less public I imagine is because the war has been ramping up and she might be trying to keep a war from breaking out.

In a more "evil" tone she might just be trying to keep herself neutral/mage supporty so regardless of who wins she's still Divine.

She actually hasn't been Divine for that long. She started in 9:34, and one of the first thing she did was start Pharamond's experiments, since they say those were going on for five years. The Chantry folks didn't like her for her "wordly" past. Recall that she was Leliana's friend Dorothea from Leliana's Song.

I was thinking that she may just finally be a "voice of reason" as far as mage treatment is concerned, but it could also be politically motivated.

Really? Hm, I better read those parts of the codex... I tend to skip the ones about the companions and stuff lol. Maybe she's had something big planned for a while then. Maybe she saw all this coming? 

Could be. Personally, I think she was deliberately gunning for change, but I sorta feel like Lambert breaking the Nevarran Accord was more abrupt and extreme a reaction than she would have liked. Up until the end of Asunder, she seems to be working hard to play both sides, so seeing everything suddenly go to h*ll all at once may not have been her design. Then again... surreptitiously announcing to the world that tranquility is reversable is not what I'd call subtle, incremental change. LOL 

edit: Where's Justinia's #1 Fan, brushyourteeth, when you need her??  LOL

It sounds like a politician who hears something good that they helped then proudly announcing it to the world before they hear the whole thing lol.

Scientist: So Senator JoeAmerica we've cured cancer...

JoeAmerica: Cured cancer?! Thats amazing! Hey world I funded the project that cured cancer!!!

Scientist: But it causes the patients to lose their legs and grow fins...

JoeAmerica: What now

*Angry mermaids/mermen stare at JoeAmerica*

Bwahahaha! say what now??

Yeah, it could be Justinia taking inappropriate credit... although, according to Wynne it was by Justinia's mandate that Pharamond investigate the whole tranquility thing.

[LolaLei]

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Tsk, look at this. They totally twisted what DG said in his Tumblr post:

http://www.eurogamer...er-david-gaider

Hmm, I don't really see the point in that article. Shoddy  pseudo journalism. Almost half of it is just quoted directly from DG's tumblr post, the rest is just veiled innuendos about how the fans who have been driven away from BSN are the same fans apparently driven away by BW's turning EA-ified. Say what??  *sigh* Poor David Gaider. Even his attempts at positive, balanced sharing with the community are over-analyzed and turned on their head. It is a wonder that he, and the other devs, continue their fan intereactions.

Like when it quotes: "The only other option is to simply avoid all online interaction with fans at all or make any such completely benign and PR-oriented" - and convienently removes the most important part "which would be unfortunate- and not, I suspect, what even the angry fans would want". 

Eurogamer are known for purposely trying to be "edgy" and rock the boat. They might want to be careful though, if they want games developers to continue to attend their events.

[LolaLei]

R2s Muse wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

That's something I'm curious about, the Divine being pro-mage... or at least leaning more towards the mages side than the Templars. It makes me wonder what her motivations are suddenly, baring in mind that she's probably been the Divine for years now and hasn't had any problems keeping the mages in the circle until now.

If I remember right her codex says she's always been a bit of a feather rustler/mage supporter which is why a good portion of the clerics/templars didn't like her and wanted her gone. Why she's made it more or less public I imagine is because the war has been ramping up and she might be trying to keep a war from breaking out.

In a more "evil" tone she might just be trying to keep herself neutral/mage supporty so regardless of who wins she's still Divine.

She actually hasn't been Divine for that long. She started in 9:34, and one of the first thing she did was start Pharamond's experiments, since they say those were going on for five years. The Chantry folks didn't like her for her "wordly" past. Recall that she was Leliana's friend Dorothea from Leliana's Song.

I was thinking that she may just finally be a "voice of reason" as far as mage treatment is concerned, but it could also be politically motivated.

Really? Hm, I better read those parts of the codex... I tend to skip the ones about the companions and stuff lol. Maybe she's had something big planned for a while then. Maybe she saw all this coming? 

Could be. Personally, I think she was deliberately gunning for change, but I sorta feel like Lambert breaking the Nevarran Accord was more abrupt and extreme a reaction than she would have liked. Up until the end of Asunder, she seems to be working hard to play both sides, so seeing everything suddenly go to h*ll all at once may not have been her design. Then again... surreptitiously announcing to the world that tranquility is reversable is not what I'd call subtle, incremental change. LOL 

edit: Where's Justinia's #1 Fan, brushyourteeth, when you need her??  LOL

It sounds like a politician who hears something good that they helped then proudly announcing it to the world before they hear the whole thing lol.

Scientist: So Senator JoeAmerica we've cured cancer...

JoeAmerica: Cured cancer?! Thats amazing! Hey world I funded the project that cured cancer!!!

Scientist: But it causes the patients to lose their legs and grow fins...

JoeAmerica: What now

*Angry mermaids/mermen stare at JoeAmerica*

Bwahahaha! say what now??

Yeah, it could be Justinia taking inappropriate credit... although, according to Wynne it was by Justinia's mandate that Pharamond investigate the whole tranquility thing.

I wouldn't mind being a mermaid, I've never had attractive looking legs anyway! 

[Danny Boy 7]

R2s Muse wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

That's something I'm curious about, the Divine being pro-mage... or at least leaning more towards the mages side than the Templars. It makes me wonder what her motivations are suddenly, baring in mind that she's probably been the Divine for years now and hasn't had any problems keeping the mages in the circle until now.

If I remember right her codex says she's always been a bit of a feather rustler/mage supporter which is why a good portion of the clerics/templars didn't like her and wanted her gone. Why she's made it more or less public I imagine is because the war has been ramping up and she might be trying to keep a war from breaking out.

In a more "evil" tone she might just be trying to keep herself neutral/mage supporty so regardless of who wins she's still Divine.

She actually hasn't been Divine for that long. She started in 9:34, and one of the first thing she did was start Pharamond's experiments, since they say those were going on for five years. The Chantry folks didn't like her for her "wordly" past. Recall that she was Leliana's friend Dorothea from Leliana's Song.

I was thinking that she may just finally be a "voice of reason" as far as mage treatment is concerned, but it could also be politically motivated.

Really? Hm, I better read those parts of the codex... I tend to skip the ones about the companions and stuff lol. Maybe she's had something big planned for a while then. Maybe she saw all this coming? 

Could be. Personally, I think she was deliberately gunning for change, but I sorta feel like Lambert breaking the Nevarran Accord was more abrupt and extreme a reaction than she would have liked. Up until the end of Asunder, she seems to be working hard to play both sides, so seeing everything suddenly go to h*ll all at once may not have been her design. Then again... surreptitiously announcing to the world that tranquility is reversable is not what I'd call subtle, incremental change. LOL 

edit: Where's Justinia's #1 Fan, brushyourteeth, when you need her??  LOL

It sounds like a politician who hears something good that they helped then proudly announcing it to the world before they hear the whole thing lol.

Scientist: So Senator JoeAmerica we've cured cancer...

JoeAmerica: Cured cancer?! Thats amazing! Hey world I funded the project that cured cancer!!!

Scientist: But it causes the patients to lose their legs and grow fins...

JoeAmerica: What now

*Angry mermaids/mermen stare at JoeAmerica*

Bwahahaha! say what now??

Yeah, it could be Justinia taking inappropriate credit... although, according to Wynne it was by Justinia's mandate that Pharamond investigate the whole tranquility thing.

Well I meant it was a bit premature. She'd heard the Tranquil thing had been reversed or what have you, but announced it prior to finding out exactly what had happened. So it could have been a great announcement had they actually waited to see if they could get the results they wanted.

[LolaLei]

I do wonder if the Divine is gonna get killed off in DA3? I mean, there are gonna be legions of folks after her head now lol.

[Danny Boy 7]

Lol well Lola then you wouldn't have your lady bits either...

[Danny Boy 7]

LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Tsk, look at this. They totally twisted what DG said in his Tumblr post:

http://www.eurogamer...er-david-gaider

Hmm, I don't really see the point in that article. Shoddy  pseudo journalism. Almost half of it is just quoted directly from DG's tumblr post, the rest is just veiled innuendos about how the fans who have been driven away from BSN are the same fans apparently driven away by BW's turning EA-ified. Say what??  *sigh* Poor David Gaider. Even his attempts at positive, balanced sharing with the community are over-analyzed and turned on their head. It is a wonder that he, and the other devs, continue their fan intereactions.

Like when it quotes: "The only other option is to simply avoid all online interaction with fans at all or make any such completely benign and PR-oriented" - and convienently removes the most important part "which would be unfortunate- and not, I suspect, what even the angry fans would want". 

Eurogamer are known for purposely trying to be "edgy" and rock the boat. They might want to be careful though, if they want games developers to continue to attend their events.

Oh they mention it, but it's much smaller than the bigger bolded part. I kind of exploded because it's an obvious troll fest. They are taking quotes out of the context, using them to fit their needs and then just to slide by as legitimate journalism add in the good bits at the end so they can say,,,oh we were being unbiased, we added the good bits.

The structure of the article is made in a way that the reader wants to skip the rest in order to  comment on how bad the mean, uncompromising Lead Writer who "ruined" our franchise/company is.

That's the bit of journalism I truly hate, making something out of nothing in order to produce views and make $$$

[Danny Boy 7]

LolaLei wrote...

I do wonder if the Divine is gonna get killed off in DA3? I mean, there are gonna be legions of folks after her head now lol.

The leak makes it seem likely, but I'd also be a bit surprised if she doesn't by the end, either through a choice or plot thread.

[LolaLei]

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I do wonder if the Divine is gonna get killed off in DA3? I mean, there are gonna be legions of folks after her head now lol.

The leak makes it seem likely, but I'd also be a bit surprised if she doesn't by the end, either through a choice or plot thread.

True, I mean it did say most of the Chantries leadership would be wiped out.

Man, I bet Cullen would have a sh!t fit over that one! Perhaps that's what would lead him into joining us? Like, we ask him when we first meet him and he's like "I'm sorry M'lady/Sir, I'm needed elsewhere" and we're like "DAMN! So we continue on our merry way. After a few quests we happen to be in a position in which both the protagonist 'n' co and Cullen are in the same place seeking out the Divine or whatever and we all witness her get assassinated (none of us are able to reach her in time), Cullen freaks out and promises to join in order to avenge her death or whatever.

Modifié par LolaLei, 10 janvier 2013 - 08:53 .

[R2s Muse]

Danny, did you see my post about your lady Cassandra not being as old as we thought...?

[LolaLei]

Thinking about that idea further, it would be the perfect reason for Cullen to join our party. 

The poor guy has dedicated his life to the Templar Order, the whole time "carrying out the will of the Divine", then the poor sod gets tortured by blood mages in Ferelden, discovers that the Templar Order in Kirkwall are corrupt and over throws his boss, however, during that whole time the one thing he hold close to his heart is his religious faith and his faith in the Divine. THEN the Templars and Seekers split from the Chantry, probably putting even more stress on him. Cullen makes the brave decision (hopefully) to stay loyal to the Divine, probably even meeting with her directly due to the events of DA2 he'd be the only one available first hand to explain the events leading up to Meredith's demise etc. The poor little sod finally feels like he's doing "the right thing" carrying out the will of the Divine first hand and then BOOM! Justina gets herself blown up or whatever. 

Under any other circumstance he would decline the invitation to join our protagonist (perhaps even doing so at first) but upon her death his world has been thrown upside down and he wants to find the "culprit" and put a stop to this madness.

Modifié par LolaLei, 10 janvier 2013 - 09:03 .