89415 réponses à ce sujet

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

Thinking about that idea further, it would be the perfect reason for Cullen to join our party. 

The poor guy has dedicated his life to the Templar Order, the whole time "carrying out the will of the Divine", then the poor sod gets tortured by blood mages in Ferelden, discovers that the Templar Order in Kirkwall are corrupt and over throws his boss, however, during that whole time the one thing he hold close to his heart is his religious faith and his faith in the Divine. THEN the Templars and Seekers split from the Chantry, probably putting even more stress on him. Cullen makes the brave decision (hopefully) to stay loyal to the Divine, probably even meeting with her directly due to the events of DA2 he'd be the only one available first hand to explain the events leading up to Meredith's demise etc. The poor little sod finally feels like he's doing "the right thing" carrying out the will of the Divine first hand and then BOOM! Justina gets herself blown up or whatever. 

Under any other circumstance he would decline the invitation to join our protagonist (perhaps even doing so at first) but upon her death his world has been thrown upside down and he wants to find the "culprit" and put a stop to this madness.

Vengeful, despondent Cullen would be fun!

[LolaLei]

It would reopen old wounds too, because he's bound to think it was caused by some sort of dodgy mage related magic at first. It would be like, he's done a lot of growing up but just when he thinks he's found purpose (again) fate take a dump on him and he's left with nothing (causing new angst). Thus creating an interesting potential romance arc for us to pursue with him.

We've all been trying to come up with reasons why he'd join the protagonist when presumably he'd have his own sh!t to deal with, but throw in the death of the Divine and what does he have? Nothing to lose and a lot of pent up anger.

... That's providing he's not with the Templars still, of course.

[LolaLei]

By Venhedis Fastavass:



By Picklecharming:



By Clueedo:



By Schratstika:



By DeepWoodian:

[LolaLei]

By Celticwolfwalker:



By Picklecharming:



By Abadir:



By Kyashiann:



By Polymorphicgirl:

[Danny Boy 7]

R2s Muse wrote...

Danny, did you see my post about your lady Cassandra not being as old as we thought...?

Oops sorry, yeah I did, had to think it over for a bit. There seems to be a lot of contradictions either from devs or the movie in and of itself. I mean it's supposed to be refrencing Meredith's rebellion rather than the one we see in game, but then how far back is it then?

As I write this I imagine that it's not like twenty years ago but probably the Knight-Commander is mentioning something that happened decades ago, Six years later (or so) Cassandra has become a rather powerful seeker and is the "leading" loyalist.

She's probably not in her late thirties though. Probably older than most of the new companions but she'll likely be...um late twenties early thirties like Hawke was.

Edit: And your not stupid, the timeline/date etc is very convoluted and it's why I don't tend to pay attention to the times/ages of characters...unless it's centuries later.

Modifié par Danny Boy 7, 10 janvier 2013 - 10:00 .

[Danny Boy 7]

LolaLei wrote...

Thinking about that idea further, it would be the perfect reason for Cullen to join our party. 

The poor guy has dedicated his life to the Templar Order, the whole time "carrying out the will of the Divine", then the poor sod gets tortured by blood mages in Ferelden, discovers that the Templar Order in Kirkwall are corrupt and over throws his boss, however, during that whole time the one thing he hold close to his heart is his religious faith and his faith in the Divine. THEN the Templars and Seekers split from the Chantry, probably putting even more stress on him. Cullen makes the brave decision (hopefully) to stay loyal to the Divine, probably even meeting with her directly due to the events of DA2 he'd be the only one available first hand to explain the events leading up to Meredith's demise etc. The poor little sod finally feels like he's doing "the right thing" carrying out the will of the Divine first hand and then BOOM! Justina gets herself blown up or whatever. 

Under any other circumstance he would decline the invitation to join our protagonist (perhaps even doing so at first) but upon her death his world has been thrown upside down and he wants to find the "culprit" and put a stop to this madness.

Yeah it depends, he might even blame the Divine for the templars separating, he might not separate from the Chantry and still be factionally a loyalist, but not a fan of the Divine specifically. I dunno it just seems like a lot of what Cullen might stand for is overlapped by Cassandra, which has me conflicted...as a Cullen fan I want him there and because I know a lot of you would be dissapointed, however...Cassandra *mmphhhh*...and well she's been like my...lady!Cullen....if I had to choose though I'd make Cullen a companion...for the greater good so to speak

[Danny Boy 7]

Anyone else notice how the templar next to Cullen in the black and white art looks like Gregoir...and rapey templar? Er...Karras I think his name is?

[LolaLei]

Omfg! Have you guys seen the trailer for CD Projetk's Cyberpunk 2077. It's gonna be an RPG and it sounds effin' awesome!

[Danny Boy 7]

Watchin it now...

Edit: Or not...I can't find a good video :/

Modifié par Danny Boy 7, 10 janvier 2013 - 10:25 .

[R2s Muse]

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Danny, did you see my post about your lady Cassandra not being as old as we thought...?

Oops sorry, yeah I did, had to think it over for a bit. There seems to be a lot of contradictions either from devs or the movie in and of itself. I mean it's supposed to be refrencing Meredith's rebellion rather than the one we see in game, but then how far back is it then?

As I write this I imagine that it's not like twenty years ago but probably the Knight-Commander is mentioning something that happened decades ago, Six years later (or so) Cassandra has become a rather powerful seeker and is the "leading" loyalist.

She's probably not in her late thirties though. Probably older than most of the new companions but she'll likely be...um late twenties early thirties like Hawke was.

Edit: And your not stupid, the timeline/date etc is very convoluted and it's why I don't tend to pay attention to the times/ages of characters...unless it's centuries later.

Yeah, that's what I'm imagining now, too, that Cassandra's in her twenties. I still reckon that in the movie, as a trainee, she's 18ish-20ish. Given that she gets named the Divine's hand at that point, makes sense that a mere six years, or less, later, she's a big wig.

[LolaLei]

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

Watchin it now...

Edit: Or not...I can't find a good video :/

Here ya go: 

[LolaLei]

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Thinking about that idea further, it would be the perfect reason for Cullen to join our party. 

The poor guy has dedicated his life to the Templar Order, the whole time "carrying out the will of the Divine", then the poor sod gets tortured by blood mages in Ferelden, discovers that the Templar Order in Kirkwall are corrupt and over throws his boss, however, during that whole time the one thing he hold close to his heart is his religious faith and his faith in the Divine. THEN the Templars and Seekers split from the Chantry, probably putting even more stress on him. Cullen makes the brave decision (hopefully) to stay loyal to the Divine, probably even meeting with her directly due to the events of DA2 he'd be the only one available first hand to explain the events leading up to Meredith's demise etc. The poor little sod finally feels like he's doing "the right thing" carrying out the will of the Divine first hand and then BOOM! Justina gets herself blown up or whatever. 

Under any other circumstance he would decline the invitation to join our protagonist (perhaps even doing so at first) but upon her death his world has been thrown upside down and he wants to find the "culprit" and put a stop to this madness.

Yeah it depends, he might even blame the Divine for the templars separating, he might not separate from the Chantry and still be factionally a loyalist, but not a fan of the Divine specifically. I dunno it just seems like a lot of what Cullen might stand for is overlapped by Cassandra, which has me conflicted...as a Cullen fan I want him there and because I know a lot of you would be dissapointed, however...Cassandra *mmphhhh*...and well she's been like my...lady!Cullen....if I had to choose though I'd make Cullen a companion...for the greater good so to speak

Well, I reckon Cassandra is full on working for the Divine like Leliana so that's roughly what she's been doing between DA2 and DA3. As for Cullen, he might not be directly working for her in the way Cass is but instead has become a bit of a vigilante working with the Templars that refused to revolt against Justina.

[LolaLei]

I've been thinking. IF that leaked art from the survey is real, Cullen was still wearing the Templar Sword of Mercy insignia. Now, if he has stayed loyal to the Divine then I wonder if maybe the newly rebelled Templar's have taken on a different insignia? I wonder if they'll still call themselves Templars or if they'd give themselves a completely new name, allowing the Divine loyalists to keep it because it has too much affiliation towards the Chantry?

My personal opinion would be that it would make sense for the rebelled Templars to rename themselves, if only for the sake of the player in order to recognise who's who. Unless Cullen's only wearing the insignia for sentimental reasons (and for the benefit of the player who associates him with the Templar logo).

[berelinde]

I don't know how much stock we can put in concept art. Remember that qunari Seeker? That even made it into the Strategy Guide. This far out, the virtual costume department is probably still trying on outfits and seeing what fits.

[LolaLei]

berelinde wrote...

I don't know how much stock we can put in concept art. Remember that qunari Seeker? That even made it into the Strategy Guide. This far out, the virtual costume department is probably still trying on outfits and seeing what fits.

True. If it's real then it's probably (hopefully) been changed or adapted a few hundred times. Personally I'd like him to lose the Templar insignia altogether in favour of some slightly lighter armour... preferably in black lol. 

[Danny Boy 7]

berelinde wrote...

I don't know how much stock we can put in concept art. Remember that qunari Seeker? That even made it into the Strategy Guide. This far out, the virtual costume department is probably still trying on outfits and seeing what fits.

As long as he gets a fedora...ora fez I'm happy.

[berelinde]

LolaLei wrote...

berelinde wrote...

I don't know how much stock we can put in concept art. Remember that qunari Seeker? That even made it into the Strategy Guide. This far out, the virtual costume department is probably still trying on outfits and seeing what fits.

True. If it's real then it's probably (hopefully) been changed or adapted a few hundred times. Personally I'd like him to lose the Templar insignia altogether in favour of some slightly lighter armour... preferably in black lol. 

How do you feel about accessories? Stoles? 

The other day, I was playing in Act 3, looting Hightown like a boss (Why the richest Fereldan in Kirkwall needs to look in every crate, barrel, and rubble pile is beyond me, but I always do), when I noticed an article I had never seen before: It was a fur stole, and it had an adjective in front of it. I was selling junk at the time so I don't remember the exact adjective involved, but it could have been "fruity." I laughed for a good five minutes.

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

I've been thinking. IF that leaked art from the survey is real, Cullen was still wearing the Templar Sword of Mercy insignia. Now, if he has stayed loyal to the Divine then I wonder if maybe the newly rebelled Templar's have taken on a different insignia? I wonder if they'll still call themselves Templars or if they'd give themselves a completely new name, allowing the Divine loyalists to keep it because it has too much affiliation towards the Chantry?

My personal opinion would be that it would make sense for the rebelled Templars to rename themselves, if only for the sake of the player in order to recognise who's who. Unless Cullen's only wearing the insignia for sentimental reasons (and for the benefit of the player who associates him with the Templar logo).

I've been wondering about this a lot, too. I used to think, with the breaking of the Nevarran Accord, that all of the templars and Seekers were officially divorced from the Chantry. So, that would make these new, independent folks still the Seekers™ and the Templar Order™. But, if the World of Thedas pages wording means something, and "many" split but not all, then it could be an open question as to who can call themselves a templar. I would have said the newly split group would call themselves... wait for it... Inquisition, but we "know" the Inquisition does not equal templars. So... dunno.

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

berelinde wrote...

I don't know how much stock we can put in concept art. Remember that qunari Seeker? That even made it into the Strategy Guide. This far out, the virtual costume department is probably still trying on outfits and seeing what fits.

True. If it's real then it's probably (hopefully) been changed or adapted a few hundred times. Personally I'd like him to lose the Templar insignia altogether in favour of some slightly lighter armour... preferably in black lol. 

... preferably in nothing at all...

OH WAIT... was my inner monologue still on...? 

[LolaLei]

berelinde wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

berelinde wrote...

I don't know how much stock we can put in concept art. Remember that qunari Seeker? That even made it into the Strategy Guide. This far out, the virtual costume department is probably still trying on outfits and seeing what fits.

True. If it's real then it's probably (hopefully) been changed or adapted a few hundred times. Personally I'd like him to lose the Templar insignia altogether in favour of some slightly lighter armour... preferably in black lol. 

How do you feel about accessories? Stoles? 

The other day, I was playing in Act 3, looting Hightown like a boss (Why the richest Fereldan in Kirkwall needs to look in every crate, barrel, and rubble pile is beyond me, but I always do), when I noticed an article I had never seen before: It was a fur stole, and it had an adjective in front of it. I was selling junk at the time so I don't remember the exact adjective involved, but it could have been "fruity." I laughed for a good five minutes.

Hehehe, I hope it did say "fruity fur stole", if not then it needs to be put in DA3 LOL!

[LolaLei]

The one thing I wonder about Cassandra being a companion is that she's already the hero of Orlais. Would an already well renown hero take orders from a "noob"? I mean, ok we might start off as a big shot Inquisitor or whatever, but that's still nothing in comparison to a hero who saved the Divine and killed off a massive Dragon.

That's what makes me think she might end up just being an important npc. On the other hand they've made a film about her and stuff which does seem like a ripe set up for a "lead" story driven companion.

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

The one thing I wonder about Cassandra being a companion is that she's already the hero of Orlais. Would an already well renown hero take orders from a "noob"? I mean, ok we might start off as a big shot Inquisitor or whatever, but that's still nothing in comparison to a hero who saved the Divine and killed off a massive Dragon.

That's what makes me think she might end up just being an important npc. On the other hand they've made a film about her and stuff which does seem like a ripe set up for a "lead" story driven companion.

Or, her story is done...

[LolaLei]

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

The one thing I wonder about Cassandra being a companion is that she's already the hero of Orlais. Would an already well renown hero take orders from a "noob"? I mean, ok we might start off as a big shot Inquisitor or whatever, but that's still nothing in comparison to a hero who saved the Divine and killed off a massive Dragon.

That's what makes me think she might end up just being an important npc. On the other hand they've made a film about her and stuff which does seem like a ripe set up for a "lead" story driven companion.

Or, her story is done...

... I hadn't thought of that. Like, maybe she'll only make a quick cameo... then again, there was that whole companion armour thing at PAX.

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

The one thing I wonder about Cassandra being a companion is that she's already the hero of Orlais. Would an already well renown hero take orders from a "noob"? I mean, ok we might start off as a big shot Inquisitor or whatever, but that's still nothing in comparison to a hero who saved the Divine and killed off a massive Dragon.

That's what makes me think she might end up just being an important npc. On the other hand they've made a film about her and stuff which does seem like a ripe set up for a "lead" story driven companion.

Or, her story is done...

... I hadn't thought of that. Like, maybe she'll only make a quick cameo... then again, there was that whole companion armour thing at PAX.

Yeah, I know; it's so hard to say. Normally if someone had gotten their movie, i wouldn't expect them to be a big player. But, it seems like she should be a part of the forthcoming story. Points to NPC, I think for me.

LOL We should all do a big Dragon Age character pool, not for money or anything, but by a certain date, we all immortalize our bets for who's in. We can then revisit them when the game comes out and see who was closest.