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lol! And Hawke. Oh, you...


With the Divine I wouldn't be surprised to find out that she was either a undercover mage, or had mages in the family.

Or...she somehow knows that Andraste was a mage. Or that what the Chantry has been saying abt mages isn't precisely what Andraste meant. She may have access to some DA apocrypha. Which I imagine would be a confusing, disillusioning revelation to someone who is devote.

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R2s Muse wrote...

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The one thing I wonder about Cassandra being a companion is that she's already the hero of Orlais. Would an already well renown hero take orders from a "noob"? I mean, ok we might start off as a big shot Inquisitor or whatever, but that's still nothing in comparison to a hero who saved the Divine and killed off a massive Dragon.

That's what makes me think she might end up just being an important npc. On the other hand they've made a film about her and stuff which does seem like a ripe set up for a "lead" story driven companion.


Or, her story is done...


... I hadn't thought of that. Like, maybe she'll only make a quick cameo... then again, there was that whole companion armour thing at PAX.

Yeah, I know; it's so hard to say. Normally if someone had gotten their movie, i wouldn't expect them to be a big player. But, it seems like she should be a part of the forthcoming story. Points to NPC, I think for me.

LOL We should all do a big Dragon Age character pool, not for money or anything, but by a certain date, we all immortalize our bets for who's in. We can then revisit them when the game comes out and see who was closest.


Sounds like a plan!

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I've found something interesting:

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These Seekers are wearing red capes. :-S

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rapscallioness wrote...

With the Divine I wouldn't be surprised to find out that she was either a undercover mage, or had mages in the family.

Or...she somehow knows that Andraste was a mage. Or that what the Chantry has been saying abt mages isn't precisely what Andraste meant. She may have access to some DA apocrypha. Which I imagine would be a confusing, disillusioning revelation to someone who is devote.


That would certainly be quite the revelation! You could be onto something as well. I mean, who knows what she could've dug up during her time as the Divine, maybe the previous Divine knew about and passed it down to her when she took over? Maybe it's something that each Divine has known for many Ages but has been kept a secret to try and keep the mages from taking over Thedas and causing another event on par with the whole Black City thing.

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LolaLei wrote...

rapscallioness wrote...

With the Divine I wouldn't be surprised to find out that she was either a undercover mage, or had mages in the family.

Or...she somehow knows that Andraste was a mage. Or that what the Chantry has been saying abt mages isn't precisely what Andraste meant. She may have access to some DA apocrypha. Which I imagine would be a confusing, disillusioning revelation to someone who is devote.


That would certainly be quite the revelation! You could be onto something as well. I mean, who knows what she could've dug up during her time as the Divine, maybe the previous Divine knew about and passed it down to her when she took over? Maybe it's something that each Divine has known for many Ages but has been kept a secret to try and keep the mages from taking over Thedas and causing another event on par with the whole Black City thing.


omg, what a betrayal that would be. I could see how that wouldn't sit comfortably w/some of the Divine's.

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There seems to be some blurred lines between the Seekers and the Inquisitors. I still can't quite get a handle on what exactly our PC...is.

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rapscallioness wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

rapscallioness wrote...

With the Divine I wouldn't be surprised to find out that she was either a undercover mage, or had mages in the family.

Or...she somehow knows that Andraste was a mage. Or that what the Chantry has been saying abt mages isn't precisely what Andraste meant. She may have access to some DA apocrypha. Which I imagine would be a confusing, disillusioning revelation to someone who is devote.


That would certainly be quite the revelation! You could be onto something as well. I mean, who knows what she could've dug up during her time as the Divine, maybe the previous Divine knew about and passed it down to her when she took over? Maybe it's something that each Divine has known for many Ages but has been kept a secret to try and keep the mages from taking over Thedas and causing another event on par with the whole Black City thing.


omg, what a betrayal that would be. I could see how that wouldn't sit comfortably w/some of the Divine's.


Perhaps it's taken a particular Divine that leans more towards pro-mage to do something about it? Like, maybe she has no intention of actually revealing the secret in case it does lead to a catastrophic event, but, knowing that Andraste was indeed a mage has led her to believe that they don't to be locked up to the extreme that they have been and that not ALL mages pose a threat etc, thus her trying to find ways to give them a little more freedom etc but in a more subtle way. Of course, that's pretty much backfired since the Templar/Seeker rebellion, so perhaps the Divine is planning something bigger?

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rapscallioness wrote...

There seems to be some blurred lines between the Seekers and the Inquisitors. I still can't quite get a handle on what exactly our PC...is.


I'm not entirely sure either. I guess if we do play as part of the Inquisition then we'll essentially be replacing the Divine's army (that were originally Templars and Seekers that have rebelled). Maybe all those Templars/Seekers that remained faithful to her become part of the Inquisition too?

Mark Darrah said we wouldn't be forced to be pro-Templar, but he never said anything about not having to be affiliated with the Chantry... although surely that can't be right, given the sh!t storm that would kick up if we're forced to work with any fraction without the choice to tell them to ****** off?

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That "size" difference thread on DA3 forums is hilarious...lol.

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deuce985 wrote...

That "size" difference thread on DA3 forums is hilarious...lol.


This I've gotta see!

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LMFAO that's probably one of the stranger threads I've participated in!

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LolaLei wrote...

rapscallioness wrote...

There seems to be some blurred lines between the Seekers and the Inquisitors. I still can't quite get a handle on what exactly our PC...is.


I'm not entirely sure either. I guess if we do play as part of the Inquisition then we'll essentially be replacing the Divine's army (that were originally Templars and Seekers that have rebelled). Maybe all those Templars/Seekers that remained faithful to her become part of the Inquisition too?

Mark Darrah said we wouldn't be forced to be pro-Templar, but he never said anything about not having to be affiliated with the Chantry... although surely that can't be right, given the sh!t storm that would kick up if we're forced to work with any fraction without the choice to tell them to ****** off?

No, I think DG also said that we wouldn't be part of the Chantry, either.

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R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

rapscallioness wrote...

There seems to be some blurred lines between the Seekers and the Inquisitors. I still can't quite get a handle on what exactly our PC...is.


I'm not entirely sure either. I guess if we do play as part of the Inquisition then we'll essentially be replacing the Divine's army (that were originally Templars and Seekers that have rebelled). Maybe all those Templars/Seekers that remained faithful to her become part of the Inquisition too?

Mark Darrah said we wouldn't be forced to be pro-Templar, but he never said anything about not having to be affiliated with the Chantry... although surely that can't be right, given the sh!t storm that would kick up if we're forced to work with any fraction without the choice to tell them to ****** off?

No, I think DG also said that we wouldn't be part of the Chantry, either.


I can't recall if it was mentioned. Can you remember where you saw it?

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LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

rapscallioness wrote...

There seems to be some blurred lines between the Seekers and the Inquisitors. I still can't quite get a handle on what exactly our PC...is.


I'm not entirely sure either. I guess if we do play as part of the Inquisition then we'll essentially be replacing the Divine's army (that were originally Templars and Seekers that have rebelled). Maybe all those Templars/Seekers that remained faithful to her become part of the Inquisition too?

Mark Darrah said we wouldn't be forced to be pro-Templar, but he never said anything about not having to be affiliated with the Chantry... although surely that can't be right, given the sh!t storm that would kick up if we're forced to work with any fraction without the choice to tell them to ****** off?

No, I think DG also said that we wouldn't be part of the Chantry, either.


I can't recall if it was mentioned. Can you remember where you saw it?

I was just trying to remember that, but I think it's one of the aethist threads?  I'll poke around.

And... that "size" thread??? Are you f*cking kidding me??  The DA3 forums have hit a new low...

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And if the Divine is killed by a "magical blast" and she happens to be leaning towards...leniency for the mages. Tht whole magic blast would reek of an anti-mage set up.

Get rid of the-- maybe-- pro-mage Divine, and make it look like Mages did it. Ouch.

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I saw the size thread, however I was hesitant to actually venture in there.

Maybe just a peek?

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LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

rapscallioness wrote...

There
seems to be some blurred lines between the Seekers and the Inquisitors.
I still can't quite get a handle on what exactly our PC...is.


I'm
not entirely sure either. I guess if we do play as part of the
Inquisition then we'll essentially be replacing the Divine's army (that
were originally Templars and Seekers that have rebelled). Maybe all
those Templars/Seekers that remained faithful to her become part of the
Inquisition too?

Mark Darrah said we wouldn't be forced to be
pro-Templar, but he never said anything about not having to be
affiliated with the Chantry... although surely that can't be right,
given the sh!t storm that would kick up if we're forced to work with any
fraction without the choice to tell them to ****** off?

No, I think DG also said that we wouldn't be part of the Chantry, either.


I can't recall if it was mentioned. Can you remember where you saw it?


OK here it is:

http://social.biowar.../14614580&lf=8

But, may there even have been an earlier one?

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rapscallioness wrote...

I saw the size thread, however I was hesitant to actually venture in there.

Maybe just a peek?

It's worth a peek to see just why we  never go there anymore! LOL

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R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

rapscallioness wrote...

There
seems to be some blurred lines between the Seekers and the Inquisitors.
I still can't quite get a handle on what exactly our PC...is.


I'm
not entirely sure either. I guess if we do play as part of the
Inquisition then we'll essentially be replacing the Divine's army (that
were originally Templars and Seekers that have rebelled). Maybe all
those Templars/Seekers that remained faithful to her become part of the
Inquisition too?

Mark Darrah said we wouldn't be forced to be
pro-Templar, but he never said anything about not having to be
affiliated with the Chantry... although surely that can't be right,
given the sh!t storm that would kick up if we're forced to work with any
fraction without the choice to tell them to ****** off?

No, I think DG also said that we wouldn't be part of the Chantry, either.


I can't recall if it was mentioned. Can you remember where you saw it?


OK here it is:

http://social.biowar.../14614580&lf=8

But, may there even have been an earlier one?


In which case, I have no bloody idea what or how we'd end up in the Inquisition if we do at all lol!

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In which case, I have no bloody idea what or how we'd end up in the Inquisition if we do at all lol!

yeah, I dunno. All I can think is it's a completely third party, like we've been discussing, outside both the Chantry and the templars, to clean up their mess.Then they adopt the Inquisition title because, like the original Inquisition, they're a  militia of the people who rise up to protect themselves from the reign of evil magic and heretics, independent of the government or the Chantry. Then, you, the PC Inquisitor, get to decide the character of your new organization, and whether yours is again a rein of terror or a time of rainbows and moonbeams and sun dappled pools of peace and  happiness.

Coming back to Cullen, he could be completely without affiliation if the Divine is dead and the templars are rogue and stomping all over his beliefs. Maybe he needs a new cause. Hmmm. Warming to this idea. After all, he's been part of a well-oiled machine likely for all of his adult life. He might be more likely to need a new "herd" than to go solo. (despite my continuing love for the noble ronin idea...)

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lmao at size diff. thread. how invigorating. rarely does one get the opportunity to use the word "penii" in a sentence.

unless you just blurt it out randomly. but that would be rather...unseemly.

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R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

In which case, I have no bloody idea what or how we'd end up in the Inquisition if we do at all lol!

yeah, I dunno. All I can think is it's a completely third party, like we've been discussing, outside both the Chantry and the templars, to clean up their mess.Then they adopt the Inquisition title because, like the original Inquisition, they're a  militia of the people who rise up to protect themselves from the reign of evil magic and heretics, independent of the government or the Chantry. Then, you, the PC Inquisitor, get to decide the character of your new organization, and whether yours is again a rein of terror or a time of rainbows and moonbeams and sun dappled pools of peace and  happiness.

Coming back to Cullen, he could be completely without affiliation if the Divine is dead and the templars are rogue and stomping all over his beliefs. Maybe he needs a new cause. Hmmm. Warming to this idea. After all, he's been part of a well-oiled machine likely for all of his adult life. He might be more likely to need a new "herd" than to go solo. (despite my continuing love for the noble ronin idea...)


Unless we won't be part of the Inquisition at all? But that would render Mark Darrah's little hint on Twitter pointless.

Yeah, I like that idea for Cullen too. It just feels like it would make the most sense as a reason why he would join our protagonist, because I seriously can't see him rebelling with the rest of the Templars, especially after the way he was waxing lyrical about following the Divine's orders throughout DA2. Plus, what's more dramatic than killing off the head of the Chantry? What with the events in the DotS movie and the Asunder novel it almost seems like a forshadowing that the old girl is gonna get bumped off sooner or later, there's only so many times she can cheat death, especially now that there's gonna be thousands after her head. If a "magical blast" doesn't kill her off, you can bet your arse someone else will be successful. 

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lmao at size diff. thread. how invigorating. rarely does one get the opportunity to use the word "penii" in a sentence.

unless you just blurt it out randomly. but that would be rather...unseemly.

LOL She's lived and come back to tell the tale! So I assume it hasn't been locked yet?

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LMAO it just got locked!

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LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

In which case, I have no bloody idea what or how we'd end up in the Inquisition if we do at all lol!

yeah, I dunno. All I can think is it's a completely third party, like we've been discussing, outside both the Chantry and the templars, to clean up their mess.Then they adopt the Inquisition title because, like the original Inquisition, they're a  militia of the people who rise up to protect themselves from the reign of evil magic and heretics, independent of the government or the Chantry. Then, you, the PC Inquisitor, get to decide the character of your new organization, and whether yours is again a rein of terror or a time of rainbows and moonbeams and sun dappled pools of peace and  happiness.

Coming back to Cullen, he could be completely without affiliation if the Divine is dead and the templars are rogue and stomping all over his beliefs. Maybe he needs a new cause. Hmmm. Warming to this idea. After all, he's been part of a well-oiled machine likely for all of his adult life. He might be more likely to need a new "herd" than to go solo. (despite my continuing love for the noble ronin idea...)


Unless we won't be part of the Inquisition at all? But that would render Mark Darrah's little hint on Twitter pointless.

Yeah, I like that idea for Cullen too. It just feels like it would make the most sense as a reason why he would join our protagonist, because I seriously can't see him rebelling with the rest of the Templars, especially after the way he was waxing lyrical about following the Divine's orders throughout DA2. Plus, what's more dramatic than killing off the head of the Chantry? What with the events in the DotS movie and the Asunder novel it almost seems like a forshadowing that the old girl is gonna get bumped off sooner or later, there's only so many times she can cheat death, especially now that there's gonna be thousands after her head. If a "magical blast" doesn't kill her off, you can bet your arse someone else will be successful. 

Yeah, I think you're right that Justinia's marked for death. And, the whodunnit would be very complicated given how many different factions could have it in for her. I've been wondering how widely known it is that she was leaning pro-mage. In my new story I was treating it as sort of an unsubstantiated rumor, but given how it's stated in the World of Thedas excerpt, it sounds like common knowledge.