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[R2s Muse]

Shades_Of_Pale wrote...

Okay, the Grand Cathedral is seriously beautiful looking. And if that is the protag, then they must be visiting for some important reason. Perhaps being summoned to deal with the oncoming war.

So, that means our protag may start off as an inquisitor in the beginning, instead of the theory of us joining and such.

Also, t he cathedral is still, um, standing. No mystery magical blasts yet, it seems.

[LolaLei]

What if that title art is the opening to DA3? Picture it:

It's a stormy evening and night is beginning to set in fast. Our new protagonist has just arrived in Val Royeaux. Approaching the city walls he/she marvels at the stain glass depicting the story of Andraste...

[Danny Boy 7]

On the Mabari bit I think it might either be Lola's/R2's theory or just more Ferelden refugees. I mean it can't be to much of a stretch to think some Fereldens (regardless of their patriotism) wound up in Orlais with their mabari. Maybe we get one because his/her master can't take care of them anymore or want them to have a better home.

Anyway...maybe the elf in the dress is actually Shartan. Don't look at me like that. Maybe elves dressed that way back then....STOP....don't make that face. Maybe Shartan likes dresses....

Also AWESOME!!!!!!

Oh and *coughs* Orlais *coughs* **derp face**

[rapscallioness]

I'm suspicious of Andraste. And then remeber this? Speaking of Apocrypha:


from the Wiki--
"Interestingly enough, there is a book called "The Search for the True Prophet", which is a gift for Wynne, that mentions the possibility that Andraste wasn't, in fact, the Maker's Chosen, but rather "just" an extraordinarily powerful mage. This would explain Andraste's insight on the dangers of magic, whereas most humans, unable or unwilling to separate good magic from evil, fear it all. The text of the book mentions that it has been saved from a fire at some point in time, suggesting that there has been fierce opposition to any depiction of Andraste that runs counter to official Chantry doctrine. This is also a possible explanation for the healing powers of her ashes. " (altho it may have been the lyrium in the mountain)

Really the whole thing is an interesting read. I also remember hearing that Andraste didn't cry out from the flames--which makes me think Fire Ward.

The Archon that put the sword in her heart, or head, may have realized and decided to kill her more directly.

There is some debate abt his so called conversion.

And that blood does look like dragon wings. Ha! What if she's a sister, or daughter of Flemeth! And she was on that mountain summo---uh, singing to who knows what?

Question: Did the idea of the Maker exist before Andraste? And also how did Andraste Know that the Tevinter mages were responsible for the Blight?

[LolaLei]

R2s Muse wrote...

Shades_Of_Pale wrote...

Okay, the Grand Cathedral is seriously beautiful looking. And if that is the protag, then they must be visiting for some important reason. Perhaps being summoned to deal with the oncoming war.

So, that means our protag may start off as an inquisitor in the beginning, instead of the theory of us joining and such.

Also, t he cathedral is still, um, standing. No mystery magical blasts yet, it seems.

You're right! Which means the Inquisition hasn't been formed at the point depicted in the picture! So our little protagonist isn't the Inquisitor yet!

[R2s Muse]

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

On the Mabari bit I think it might either be Lola's/R2's theory or just more Ferelden refugees. I mean it can't be to much of a stretch to think some Fereldens (regardless of their patriotism) wound up in Orlais with their mabari. Maybe we get one because his/her master can't take care of them anymore or want them to have a better home.

Anyway...maybe the elf in the dress is actually Shartan. Don't look at me like that. Maybe elves dressed that way back then....STOP....don't make that face. Maybe Shartan likes dresses....

Also AWESOME!!!!!!

Oh and *coughs* Orlais *coughs* **derp face**

D'oh, yup, must be Shartan. And, everyone early in the Chant wore robes... except Badass, plate armor wearing Andraste!!!

And... here's a dumb question... but Thedas has regular dogs, right? They're not all smarty pants mabari. Can't a dog just be... a dog?

[rapscallioness]

R2s Muse wrote...

Shades_Of_Pale wrote...

Okay, the Grand Cathedral is seriously beautiful looking. And if that is the protag, then they must be visiting for some important reason. Perhaps being summoned to deal with the oncoming war.

So, that means our protag may start off as an inquisitor in the beginning, instead of the theory of us joining and such.

Also, t he cathedral is still, um, standing. No mystery magical blasts yet, it seems.

It looks a lil shabby tho. And there are plumes of smoke. Heck, maybe that's Sandal's room, and he's working on some Enchantments.

Modifié par rapscallioness, 11 janvier 2013 - 04:30 .

[Shades_Of_Pale]

I believe they can be, I think I remember something about a Fereldan talking about how mabaris aren't like the average lap dog...

Maybe I made it up in my head.

[rapscallioness]

Why is Shartan holding a key?

I hope we find the ruins of Arlathan. There may be important info there.

[LolaLei]

Shades_Of_Pale wrote...

I believe they can be, I think I remember something about a Fereldan talking about how mabaris aren't like the average lap dog...

Maybe I made it up in my head.

I hope to see at least one poodle in Orlais, or I shall be very disappointed! 

[rapscallioness]

I can't wait to play this game. I hope they Bring It w/ the lore!

[Face of Evil]

R2s Muse wrote...

And... here's a dumb question... but Thedas has regular dogs, right? They're not all smarty pants mabari. Can't a dog just be... a dog?

Yeah, I've seen regular dogs. Morrigan turns into one.

[R2s Muse]

rapscallioness wrote...

I'm suspicious of Andraste. And then remeber this? Speaking of Apocrypha:


from the Wiki--
"Interestingly enough, there is a book called "The Search for the True Prophet", which is a gift for Wynne, that mentions the possibility that Andraste wasn't, in fact, the Maker's Chosen, but rather "just" an extraordinarily powerful mage. This would explain Andraste's insight on the dangers of magic, whereas most humans, unable or unwilling to separate good magic from evil, fear it all. The text of the book mentions that it has been saved from a fire at some point in time, suggesting that there has been fierce opposition to any depiction of Andraste that runs counter to official Chantry doctrine. This is also a possible explanation for the healing powers of her ashes. " (altho it may have been the lyrium in the mountain)

Really the whole thing is an interesting read. I also remember hearing that Andraste didn't cry out from the flames--which makes me think Fire Ward.

The Archon that put the sword in her heart, or head, may have realized and decided to kill her more directly.

There is some debate abt his so called conversion.

And that blood does look like dragon wings. Ha! What if she's a sister, or daughter of Flemeth! And she was on that mountain summo---uh, singing to who knows what?

Question: Did the idea of the Maker exist before Andraste? And also how did Andraste Know that the Tevinter mages were responsible for the Blight?

I've always been fond of the notion that Andraste was a mage.

On the Maker, Andraste brought about a return to his worship, so the Creator was known before her. However, he wasn't known as the Maker until the Chantry. As to how anyone "knows" what happened in the Golden City is probably anyone guess since it seems no one actually knows the real story. But Andraste did her thing well after the First Blight, so there must have been rampant theories.

[Shades_Of_Pale]

Mergh, poodles...since we are talking about Orlais, I can imagine their fur being cut and dyed more oddly than in dog shows....0-0 poor things. Might as well shave them naked.

[littlenikki]

Oh no! I missed stuff!

These are all pics from the artbook, correct? I'm scanning over the last few pages to catch up, but figured it wouldn't hurt to get some clarification.

[LolaLei]

R2: But wasn't Corypheus one of the people who stormed the Golden city?

Modifié par LolaLei, 11 janvier 2013 - 04:38 .

[LolaLei]

littlenikki wrote...

Oh no! I missed stuff!

These are all pics from the artbook, correct? I'm scanning over the last few pages to catch up, but figured it wouldn't hurt to get some clarification.

Yep! Except the picture of Cullen in his fruity outfit, the two pictures of the protagonist from the leaked survey and the picture of the stain glass taken from Deviantart lol.

[Shades_Of_Pale]

He did, but he was rather confused imo, so his story may not be totally clear about what really happened. Didn't he say it was already black/dark when they got there?

I haven't played Legacy yet, so...I don't know too much.

[rapscallioness]

Boy, if Andraste was a mage that would rock Cullen's world.

And if he is a companion--I really need to change his outfit.

[Shades_Of_Pale]

rapscallioness wrote...

Boy, if Andraste was a mage that would rock Cullen's world.

And if he is a companion--I really need to change his outfit.

nudity is always quite recommended:whistle:

[LolaLei]

rapscallioness wrote...

Boy, if Andraste was a mage that would rock Cullen's world.

And if he is a companion--I really need to change his outfit.

Amen to that! The furry thing will be the first thing to go! Hopefully I'll be able to strip most of it down and put his upper body in something that looks a little lighter and less layed! 

[littlenikki]

LolaLei wrote...

littlenikki wrote...

Oh no! I missed stuff!

These are all pics from the artbook, correct? I'm scanning over the last few pages to catch up, but figured it wouldn't hurt to get some clarification.

Yep! Except the picture of Cullen in his fruity outfit, the two pictures of the protagonist from the leaked survey and the picture of the stain glass taken from Deviantart lol.

"Oh, you don't need to check  the BSN today." I told myself
"There's going to be no new news until spring, don't get your hopes up." I said

Thankfully, I don't listen to myself that often, so now I can bust out the magnifying glass and speculate the sh*t outta this thing.

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

R2: But wasn't Corypheus one of the people who stormed the Golden city?

True, so  he would probably know, although he was locked up since then it seems. Perhaps there were others like him running around Thedas during the First Blight sharing what happened. I don't really know. Everytime we hear an "official" source on where darkspawn come from, however, it comes with a heavy helping of "according to the Chantry." So, it seems pretty clear to me that there's some  history being told by the victor here. The First Blight was 100 years, and Andraste's rebellion was 100  yrs after that, so that lots of time to do some digging presumably.

[rapscallioness]

Shades_Of_Pale wrote...

He did, but he was rather confused imo, so his story may not be totally clear about what really happened. Didn't he say it was already black/dark when they got there?

I haven't played Legacy yet, so...I don't know too much.

Yes! He did say that. Sooo...why would Dumat trick them like that? Or was it ever a Golden City to begin with? Maybe Dumat saw them being....Super DarkSpawn...as giving them the power of the gods.

Cuz that's wht he told them. They'd get the power of the gods themselves. Perhaps they had a diff idea of what that would entail. And really, the power of which gods.

[LolaLei]

It's nice to have something new to speculate over again! Even though it isn't much, it's enough to come up with some pretty reliable evidence that the survey leak is legit, thus the plot description is likely true in it's most basic form at the very least.