deuce985 wrote...
motomotogirl wrote...
Can you guys think of another NPC that made a similar impact on you? I really can't. I do love Alain. But I am weird in that lol
Morrigan. I like sassy women!
LolaLei wrote...
Can anyone think of an NPC from any other BioWare game that's created as much positive and negative attention as Cullen?
(Companions don't count lol).
... Harbinger maybe? No, wait, that space kid... Although that was mostly negative LOL.
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cacey lee wrote...
Fenrial...(if thats how you spell it) *Not as much as Cullen but I really liked him.motomotogirl wrote...
Can you guys think of another NPC that made a similar impact on you? I really can't. I do love Alain. But I am weird in that lol
Yeah that's a good one; I'm not that into him, but I can see how he'd definitely intrigue a player into wanting to know more about him and his story, where he's going, etc.
motomotogirl wrote...
Can you guys think of another NPC that made a similar impact on you? I really can't. I do love Alain. But I am weird in that lol
She actually has a good hate following lol believe it or not, but nowhere near the amount that Cullen does. For her it tends to be an attack on anime's in general and how purist some of the fans are with regard to their games. Others just don't like Chantry characters and as they say can't wait to knife her, Cullen, Leliana and Sebastian. So idk if it's her hate so much as it's those general topics hate. It might also be because instead of being a possible companion, she's basically been confirmed without actual confirmation.), Fergus and Shianni. Fergus because he's my bro and kind of funny and Shianni because of how she reacts to the potential rape. She's show she's not a victim, but doesn't lose all trust in humans which many people might (not that I blame them) and doesn't lose any of that fiery spirit that got her in trouble in the first place. I don't much care for character developement through rape, but her's wasn't bad.
motomotogirl wrote...
Can you guys think of another NPC that made a similar impact on you? I really can't. I do love Alain. But I am weird in that lol
LolaLei wrote...
Thinking about it, it's kinda bizarre how much of a following Cullen's acquired, especially considering he's only ever been a relatively unimportant npc. Stranger still is that Cullen's popularity began in DA:O, in which he had even less of a presence than DA2 and was (generally) considered less attractive than his DA2 model. If you put together every possible interaction with Cullen from both games it wouldn't even amount to 15 minutes.
This oblivious, slightly awkward, (seemingly) socially inexperienced Templar and mere npc has generated more attention (both good and bad) than some of the companions themselves! And it goes beyond just this thread, I've found hundreds, maybe even thousands of fanfic, fan-art, photo manipulations, head swaps, poems and video tributes dedicated to this man and contrary to popular belief, it's not JUST because "he fancied the F!Mage Warden and had a face lift in DA2". Sure, he has quite a large following of women and gay men, BUT he also seems to have quite a sizable straight male and lesbian fanbase too.
His personal story arc actually interests people. His (potential) crush on the Fem!Mage Warden in DA:O, his torture at the hands of demons and bloodmages in KinlochHold, the breakdown that led to him being sent to a Greenfell to recover, his eventual transfer to Kirkwall and subsequent promotion through the Templar ranks to Knight Captain status despite his young age, and finally the realisation that his superior had become corrupt leading him to eventually aid Hawke (sometimes a mage, of all things!) In slaying the Knight Commander. On paper it all seems in-depth and incredibly dramatic and if you didn't know any better you'd be forgiven for thinking that I'd just described a full companions story arc... but all these events, everything that we've learnt about him (that we know to be 100% true) has played out in under 15 minutes of screen time (some of which is only shown via codex entries and npc gossip), and we've barely even scratched the surface! We've seen his personal growth in-game first hand, we feel like we know this character intimately, yet we know very little about him. Hell, we don't even know for sure if he has a Surname, let alone a family, or, Maker forbid, a girlfriend/boyfriend!
When you look at it objectively, it's not surprising that DG seems somewhat shocked by his level of popularity. Yet, after reading this back, to an outsider it would be equally surprising if he wasn't made a companion.
Crazy isn't it.
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LolaLei wrote...
Newschmoo: Asunder is one of the best to read for the DA3 set up. It fills in a few things, definitely useful!
Danny Boy 7 wrote...
So while trying to write dialogue for the thread. (Cullen talking to our Inquisitor directly about well anything) I found this weird kink (mind out of the gutter Lola) that unlike Hawke or the Warden...saying Inquisitor in everyday conversation is just weird. It needs something in front of it, a Mr/Mrs, the or whatever.
Soooo how important do you think our surnames will be this time around? Also does this preclude any chance of different surnames.
LolaLei wrote...
Danny Boy 7 wrote...
So while trying to write dialogue for the thread. (Cullen talking to our Inquisitor directly about well anything) I found this weird kink (mind out of the gutter Lola) that unlike Hawke or the Warden...saying Inquisitor in everyday conversation is just weird. It needs something in front of it, a Mr/Mrs, the or whatever.
Soooo how important do you think our surnames will be this time around? Also does this preclude any chance of different surnames.
LOL! You've got me pegged!
I'm hoping that they'll tell us the new protagonist's Surname in Spring so that we can actually address him/her correctly. It feels weird refering to him/her as just "Inquisitor" or "protagonist", even the choice of Warden(s) in DA:O had their individual Surnames that we could use to address each of them. I think the character will feel more "real" once we know the name.
I bet once we have more details about DA3's protagonist then the fanfics and fan-art will start rolling in. It's gonna be awesome!
Danny Boy 7 wrote...
LolaLei wrote...
Danny Boy 7 wrote...
So while trying to write dialogue for the thread. (Cullen talking to our Inquisitor directly about well anything) I found this weird kink (mind out of the gutter Lola) that unlike Hawke or the Warden...saying Inquisitor in everyday conversation is just weird. It needs something in front of it, a Mr/Mrs, the or whatever.
Soooo how important do you think our surnames will be this time around? Also does this preclude any chance of different surnames.
LOL! You've got me pegged!
I'm hoping that they'll tell us the new protagonist's Surname in Spring so that we can actually address him/her correctly. It feels weird refering to him/her as just "Inquisitor" or "protagonist", even the choice of Warden(s) in DA:O had their individual Surnames that we could use to address each of them. I think the character will feel more "real" once we know the name.
I bet once we have more details about DA3's protagonist then the fanfics and fan-art will start rolling in. It's gonna be awesome!
I'm hoping to get the Warden, Hawke and whoever the new protagonist is drawn up by iTrixia, she does some beautiful Dragon Age work. But maybe, just maybe the Inquisitor is related to the Couslands in some way, black sheep of the family like Hawke's mother was.
Because come on....Cousland's are just as awesome as stinky ol' Amell
Second this about Asunder. Although I think they're all useful in filling in parts of the lore, Asunder so far is the most integral to the world state, tho.Newschmoo wrote...
LolaLei wrote...
Newschmoo: Asunder is one of the best to read for the DA3 set up. It fills in a few things, definitely useful!
Thanks, I shall download it!
R2s Muse wrote...
You know I like the Amell connections for how they add more information to the lore and back story of Hawke... primarily helping us identify his/her age along with Solona Amell's... but otherwise, I sorta hope the new protagonist is totally new. I'm not as keen on the whole "special snowflake" status that would connote to either family to have so many heroes in it. I'm more interested in the regular joe/jane who rises to the challenge as the reluctant hero than some kind of hero pedigree. I think that's more important to me than whether they happen to be noble or common.
Of course, that being said... I'll love whoever our protagonist happens to be! I also agree that it will be nice to have a name, although Inquisitor doesn't sound to bad to me as a formal title ... yet. (Of course, I haven't written that much dialogue with it yet, either! LOL ).
jk. I agree having all the heroes related to one of the Wardens may cause small world or Skywalker syndrome, but it's not necessarily a bad thing if we as players get a little nod. Like maybe the Cousland cousin is a member of traveling circus...or just nowhere in line for the nobility or an embassador to Orlais or something.
Do you mean in DA:O? Actually no. I've never finished an Amell playthrough. I hated playing a mage in Origins. My canon playthrough for that was my Queen Cousland.Danny Boy 7 wrote...
R2s Muse wrote...
You know I like the Amell connections for how they add more information to the lore and back story of Hawke... primarily helping us identify his/her age along with Solona Amell's... but otherwise, I sorta hope the new protagonist is totally new. I'm not as keen on the whole "special snowflake" status that would connote to either family to have so many heroes in it. I'm more interested in the regular joe/jane who rises to the challenge as the reluctant hero than some kind of hero pedigree. I think that's more important to me than whether they happen to be noble or common.
Of course, that being said... I'll love whoever our protagonist happens to be! I also agree that it will be nice to have a name, although Inquisitor doesn't sound to bad to me as a formal title ... yet. (Of course, I haven't written that much dialogue with it yet, either! LOL ).
Wasn't your protagonist an Amell though R2? Easy to dismiss it when it's not yours
LolaLei wrote...
That's why I like the idea of having the option of a traveller/gypsy background, someone that has no emotional attachments to any particular part of Thedas or factions within it. A background like that would leave things open to interpretation and allow us to head canon, roleplay and shape the protagonist to suit our own individual tastes.
motomotogirl wrote...
LolaLei wrote...
That's why I like the idea of having the option of a traveller/gypsy background, someone that has no emotional attachments to any particular part of Thedas or factions within it. A background like that would leave things open to interpretation and allow us to head canon, roleplay and shape the protagonist to suit our own individual tastes.
Me, too, I like that idea! Maybe you have the option to pick country of origin, too, and that will effect your CC. Say you can pick Rivain, Anderfels, Fereldan, etc. But as a traveler, you've spent much of your time in, say, Fereldan, and hence have a Fereldan accent.
motomotogirl wrote...
LolaLei wrote...
That's why I like the idea of having the option of a traveller/gypsy background, someone that has no emotional attachments to any particular part of Thedas or factions within it. A background like that would leave things open to interpretation and allow us to head canon, roleplay and shape the protagonist to suit our own individual tastes.
Me, too, I like that idea! Maybe you have the option to pick country of origin, too, and that will effect your CC. Say you can pick Rivain, Anderfels, Fereldan, etc. But as a traveler, you've spent much of your time in, say, Fereldan, and hence have a Fereldan accent.
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