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LolaLei wrote...

R2: Can you remember what page I posted a list of all those Cullen related videos? I tried hunting it down on Google but it's coming up with nothing.


Do you mean this one?

http://social.biowar...31/691#14179050


(edit: my pleasure! :kissing: )

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Repost for anyone who's interested:

Aaaaand I'm pleased to announce that we are now the third biggest character/companion thread in this section of the forum. We are also the biggest thread for an NPC. As a mini celebration here's a collection of fans YouTube vids dedicated to Cullen, that I've been gathering up:





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skw_FhdAmCk  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nBz-Y2VR6c  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au2pNK0PeJ4&feature=related 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdzU7WHYNZA&feature=related 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSOkEwN18BE&feature=related 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC0TmN5CM8E 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydOHgGrRZhk&list=UUUV3DIwN6T-k17oO0Xo3DWg&index=1&feature=plcp 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlqwMg468Do&feature=related 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Vu3TLAn9bE&feature=youtu.be  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89r0najGQHE&feature=plcp  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2FjJle06t0  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S8WRe99UVk 

http://vimeo.com/32007767  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lsYuAjmBxU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlxqk5ukhuo


Thanks R2! <3

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LolaLei wrote...

So here are my two questions:

1) Based on what we know for sure about Cullen, his past and the way he's reacted to relationships/sex/prostitutes/etc, if it turns out that Cullen is already married or in a relationship, would you feel like it was out of character/jarring? AND if you were able to flirt with him, do you think he'd be the type of man to leave his current relationship for your protagonist, even if he was unhappy with his current partner? If he did leave his partner for the protagonist, would you consider that to be unlike him?

2) If Cullen is unable/unsure how to relate to the possibility of a romance,(based on what we know about him) do you feel that he'd be able to eventually overcome his fears/issues and subsequently strike up a romance with the protagonist? Or do you think he'd be unable/unwilling to ever strike up a relationship beyond telling you that he likes/loves you (if at all).


1. No, I would not think it out of character because things happen; people meet and fall in love in the blink of an eye. If such a relationship did exist, however, I would think it's not very solid or serious, so, for example, I would not be disuayed by Cullen being in a relationship because I think he would still be suseptible to romance. (Apologies for the spelling in this post; it's not auto-correcting for some reason and I'm in a hurry :P)

2. I don't think anyone, other than a person who has been emotionally traumatized or is emotionally unstable/unable to engage in a relationship, is incapable of being in a relationship. Even if Cullen is shy and inexperienced (and I seriously doubt he's totally inexperienced), hormones and amorous feelings would eventually win out with the right person lol 

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LolaLei wrote...

I've been thinking about that Tumblr entry Gaider made regarding the romances. I can't help but think that maybe he was giving us some hints about the way one or two of the relationships will play out this time.

So here are my two questions:

1) Based on what we know for sure about Cullen, his past and the way he's reacted to relationships/sex/prostitutes/etc, if it turns out that Cullen is already married or in a relationship, would you feel like it was out of character/jarring? AND if you were able to flirt with him, do you think he'd be the type of man to leave his current relationship for your protagonist, even if he was unhappy with his current partner? If he did leave his partner for the protagonist, would you consider that to be unlike him?

2) If Cullen is unable/unsure how to relate to the possibility of a romance,(based on what we know about him) do you feel that he'd be able to eventually overcome his fears/issues and subsequently strike up a romance with the protagonist? Or do you think he'd be unable/unwilling to ever strike up a relationship beyond telling you that he likes/loves you (if at all).


Interesting questions -


1 - I know that Templars can marry in certain situations.  For Cullen, I get the feeling that he wouldn't be married by the time DA3 comes out as I feel he would put duty first, so will be resolutely single.  If he turned out to be married (I wouldn't put it past Bioware), I think he would be committed to his wife and I don't think he would leave her (no matter how amazing/gorgeous/handsome the protagonist is) because it would be breaking vows made in the Chantry (I'm guessing that all marriages are conducted in the Chantry).  He seems to take vows quite seriously.  That's not to say he wouldn't be very conflicted.  If he was not married, just in a relationship, then I guess if he was really in love with the protagonist (because we know he/she will be hard to resist)  then tI think he would leave his current partner (but would feel really bad about the person he left).  To me, he seems like he wants to do the right thing (in the eyes of the Maker that is).

2 - I believe he could, with the right handling (so to speak).  Cullen (to me) comes across as having very old fashioned views on romance.   If a romance was possible, I think the protagonist would have to be understanding of his ways, be respectful of the Chantry, but overall give him time.  I won't be a chaste relationship (like Sebastian), but I think for him to give himself to someone the relationship would have to be very serious (so no flirting with other companions).   He's human - wants to love and be loved!  

I shall have to check out those Anders/Cullen vids.  I shall put some time aside to have a watch!

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LolaLei wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

That Templar Heraldry was on Alistair's default shield if I remember correctly. I'm curious as to why the eye of the Seeker's all seeing eye is red now (remember the shirt)?


I think maybe the red bit was probably done for asthetic reasons on the t.shirts... Or maybe they added red to keep with the red theme they've used so far with the others games?

... Unless the Inquisition is going to be mistaken as "bad" by the general population due to their history, or we won't be the Inquisition at all and the rebelled Templars/Seekers will resume their original reign of terror instead?


Yes, see this is what I'm wondering. Cuz even tho the survey and all. We don't know how much spaghetti stuck to the wall.

Maybe these "backgrounds" will have something to do with it. I must say, Inquisitors as an adversary would be formidable, indeed.

But if there is a blast at a peace attempt, then it would prolly involve several leaders of diff factions being wiped out. Not just Chantry. Like Danny said. You'd have mage faction leaders; templars; maybe seekers?

Imagine leadership across the board being wiped out! The chaos. Even within the factions as ppl vying for power would fight each other.

All bets would be off. Nobody would know what they're doing, or where they're going. Warlords and corruption in the vacuum of power. When civilization falls, extremists move in.

Where is Empress Celine in all this? Is she high on Wyvern blood somewhere?

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If Cullen is in a relationship, or married in DA3, then so be it. I'm not messing with it. You know, fine. Whatever then. Friendship it is. Or enemy-ship. Who knows?

In general, I think he'd handle romance just fine if he's available.

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My thoughts on the questions I asked:

1) I think I'd be a bit annoyed if he was already in a relationship, since I'd feel like the writers had done it purposely to troll his adoring fans. But regardless, if he was already taken then I could see him unintentionally developing feelings for the protagonist since they'd be working closely together and thrown into a lot of dangerous situations, that often tend to envoke a vast array of intense emotions.

However, I think he'd eventually admit his feelings to the protagonist and they'd have a tender "moment" but he wouldn't physically cheat on his partner, instead telling the protagonist that despite how much he loves/has strong feelings for our character he's a married man/already taken and he can't leave because he honors his vows and his partner needs him. Perhaps he'd tell the protagonist what a remarkable person he/she is and that he'll cherish the time they spent together for the rest of his life, then kiss her hand or forehead or brush his hand across her cheek/lips with a sad/pained expression on his face and then leave the situation before his self control gives up lol. - (R2, you should turn this concept into a fanfic!)


2) If Cullen has issues with being able to relate/partake in a romance then I think it would depend on the class of character and background you picked for your character. For example, I wouldn't be surprised if he really struggled with his feelings for a mage protagonist due to his past experiences and perhaps as a result he would be unable to let go of his prejudices to be with her/him. Whereas he might struggle with his feelings still with a warrior/rogue but eventually overcome his problems and start up a relationship with them.



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For that matter, if I found out Alistair left my Warden...sigh...then so be it with that, too.

I remember at some Con..I think that PAX one last year, when Gaider made the off hand comment abt. how "Alistair never loved you." Idk if he was trolling, or he was plotting diabolical things.

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rapscallioness wrote...

For that matter, if I found out Alistair left my Warden...sigh...then so be it with that, too.

I remember at some Con..I think that PAX one last year, when Gaider made the off hand comment abt. how "Alistair never loved you." Idk if he was trolling, or he was plotting diabolical things.


Yeah he's trolling, it's a bit of an "in" joke due to a lot of people complaining about him leaving a non-noble Warden and b!tching because they thought he'd leave her regardless, even though it's completely avoidable lol.

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LolaLei wrote...

rapscallioness wrote...

For that matter, if I found out Alistair left my Warden...sigh...then so be it with that, too.

I remember at some Con..I think that PAX one last year, when Gaider made the off hand comment abt. how "Alistair never loved you." Idk if he was trolling, or he was plotting diabolical things.


Yeah he's trolling, it's a bit of an "in" joke due to a lot of people complaining about him leaving a non-noble Warden and b!tching because they thought he'd leave her regardless, even though it's completely avoidable lol.


Okay.

That did sting if you were non noble and Ali wasn't--ahem--hardened. It was surprising, but w/e.

I remember a glitch they had in DAO during the Orzammar part abt. "Noble Bastard son" , Or something. I was a mage in that playthru. Had just gotten w/ Alistair. We were in Orz., and that notice popped up. How you failed to give your son a chance at a noble birth, etc.

Lol! Gasp!. I thought my Warden was pregnant. And we weren't married. And I knew w/my Warden being  mage...omg. I'm knocked up, and Ali is gonna leave me. Sob! Lmao.

That was the most uncool glitch ever. I didn't know. It seemed totally legit cuz of the timing and whatnot.

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As far as Cullen. He doesn't strike me as a cheater. Regardless of feelings he may have for the PC. And that would be the sad truth of that sitch.

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rapscallioness wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

That Templar Heraldry was on Alistair's default shield if I remember correctly. I'm curious as to why the eye of the Seeker's all seeing eye is red now (remember the shirt)?


I think maybe the red bit was probably done for asthetic reasons on the t.shirts... Or maybe they added red to keep with the red theme they've used so far with the others games?

... Unless the Inquisition is going to be mistaken as "bad" by the general population due to their history, or we won't be the Inquisition at all and the rebelled Templars/Seekers will resume their original reign of terror instead?


Yes, see this is what I'm wondering. Cuz even tho the survey and all. We don't know how much spaghetti stuck to the wall.

Maybe these "backgrounds" will have something to do with it. I must say, Inquisitors as an adversary would be formidable, indeed.

But if there is a blast at a peace attempt, then it would prolly involve several leaders of diff factions being wiped out. Not just Chantry. Like Danny said. You'd have mage faction leaders; templars; maybe seekers?

Imagine leadership across the board being wiped out! The chaos. Even within the factions as ppl vying for power would fight each other.

All bets would be off. Nobody would know what they're doing, or where they're going. Warlords and corruption in the vacuum of power. When civilization falls, extremists move in.

Where is Empress Celine in all this? Is she high on Wyvern blood somewhere?


I imagine all "neutral" factions as well supporters of either side would be there, though I doubt the...hardliners would be there if that makes any sense? Fiona, Adrian, Lambert (if he's still alive) as well as any other templars/seekers. Which makes me think who in the hell is leading the Templar faction if Lambert is dead? Was there a templar or Seeker I have yet to hear about who maybe was mentioned in the novels?

Also Empress Celene is supposedly either with her army in Jader (which is a city I can't wait to see), dead or imprisoned. Who does she support though?

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What? Celene is dead or imprisoned? Jader? Whats up w/Jader?

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Btw: I didn't like the Wardens so much anymore after playing DA2.

First in the deep roads w/ my Bro Carver dying...and Stroud wants to be all philosophical abt it. How the Wardens must be called to it. I don't remember my Warden being "called" to anything.

Then the Qunari invasion, and still they wouldn't help. Politics and all that. But I personally didn't see that as politics. I saw it as plz help us keep ppl from being Slaughtered.

They're up to who knows what kinda skulduggery. Then the whole Legacy thing.

By the end of DA2 I felt like I didn't even know who the Wardens were anymore.

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Which makes me think who in the hell is leading the Templar faction if Lambert is dead? Was there a templar or Seeker I have yet to hear about who maybe was mentioned in the novels?

I've been wondering this myself. Going back to the book, there's that one underling of Lambert's who is also supports Lambert's views rather zealously, Ser Arnaud, to whom he entrusts his letter to Justinia at the end. But I think he's too much of a minion and a thug to take over any kind of leadership role. Personally, I headcanon someone else coming to the forefront after he dies; someone we haven't met yet.

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rapscallioness wrote...

Btw: I didn't like the Wardens so much anymore after playing DA2.

First in the deep roads w/ my Bro Carver dying...and Stroud wants to be all philosophical abt it. How the Wardens must be called to it. I don't remember my Warden being "called" to anything.

Then the Qunari invasion, and still they wouldn't help. Politics and all that. But I personally didn't see that as politics. I saw it as plz help us keep ppl from being Slaughtered.

They're up to who knows what kinda skulduggery. Then the whole Legacy thing.

By the end of DA2 I felt like I didn't even know who the Wardens were anymore.


I can understand why Alistair couldn't stop to help, he said himself that they were on an important quest that they couldn't elaborate further on. Whatever it is, I wouldn't be surprised if it's something to do with an event that happens in DA3.

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R2s Muse wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

Which makes me think who in the hell is leading the Templar faction if Lambert is dead? Was there a templar or Seeker I have yet to hear about who maybe was mentioned in the novels?

I've been wondering this myself. Going back to the book, there's that one underling of Lambert's who is also supports Lambert's views rather zealously, Ser Arnaud, to whom he entrusts his letter to Justinia at the end. But I think he's too much of a minion and a thug to take over any kind of leadership role. Personally, I headcanon someone else coming to the forefront after he dies; someone we haven't met yet.


Was Ser Arnaud the douche bag that takes over Evangeline's job? Plus, there could be a small chance that Lambert survived as the book ends before Cole stabs him.

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LolaLei wrote...

My thoughts on the questions I asked:

1) I think I'd be a bit annoyed if he was already in a relationship, since I'd feel like the writers had done it purposely to troll his adoring fans. But regardless, if he was already taken then I could see him unintentionally developing feelings for the protagonist since they'd be working closely together and thrown into a lot of dangerous situations, that often tend to envoke a vast array of intense emotions.

However, I think he'd eventually admit his feelings to the protagonist and they'd have a tender "moment" but he wouldn't physically cheat on his partner, instead telling the protagonist that despite how much he loves/has strong feelings for our character he's a married man/already taken and he can't leave because he honors his vows and his partner needs him. Perhaps he'd tell the protagonist what a remarkable person he/she is and that he'll cherish the time they spent together for the rest of his life, then kiss her hand or forehead or brush his hand across her cheek/lips with a sad/pained expression on his face and then leave the situation before his self control gives up lol. - (R2, you should turn this concept into a fanfic!)


LOL Ah, that might be too sad for me! I think one story with an unhappy ending is my quota for the year... and it's up! :)

I keep going back to that idea we had eons ago about Cullen having a stranger wife he's being married to forever, whom he doesn't really know well. Talk about moral dilemma: imagine he admits freely he's not actually in love with his wife, he's in love with you, but doesn't feel he can leave her. *sob* I imagine that, although the Chantry allows divorce, the commonfolk don't generally do it, and moreover, someone as devout as Cullen wouldn't even consider it. So... if I were writing that... I'd have to bump off the little wifey. LOL 

2) If Cullen has issues with being able to relate/partake in a romance then I think it would depend on the class of character and background you picked for your character. For example, I wouldn't be surprised if he really struggled with his feelings for a mage protagonist due to his past experiences and perhaps as a result he would be unable to let go of his prejudices to be with her/him. Whereas he might struggle with his feelings still with a warrior/rogue but eventually overcome his problems and start up a relationship with them.


I agree with the class-related limitations, like blood mages. I still personally see him getting past his personal inhibitions with a mage. It could add a little drama, but I think they could still find their way through it.

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LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

Which makes me think who in the hell is leading the Templar faction if Lambert is dead? Was there a templar or Seeker I have yet to hear about who maybe was mentioned in the novels?

I've been wondering this myself. Going back to the book, there's that one underling of Lambert's who is also supports Lambert's views rather zealously, Ser Arnaud, to whom he entrusts his letter to Justinia at the end. But I think he's too much of a minion and a thug to take over any kind of leadership role. Personally, I headcanon someone else coming to the forefront after he dies; someone we haven't met yet.


Was Ser Arnaud the douche bag that takes over Evangeline's job? Plus, there could be a small chance that Lambert survived as the book ends before Cole stabs him.

Yeah, that's the dude. he seemed evil enough, but not a big enough personality to be a leader. In my head, Lambert did not survive, but it's possible.

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rapscallioness wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

rapscallioness wrote...

For that matter, if I found out Alistair left my Warden...sigh...then so be it with that, too.

I remember at some Con..I think that PAX one last year, when Gaider made the off hand comment abt. how "Alistair never loved you." Idk if he was trolling, or he was plotting diabolical things.


Yeah he's trolling, it's a bit of an "in" joke due to a lot of people complaining about him leaving a non-noble Warden and b!tching because they thought he'd leave her regardless, even though it's completely avoidable lol.


Okay.

That did sting if you were non noble and Ali wasn't--ahem--hardened. It was surprising, but w/e.

I remember a glitch they had in DAO during the Orzammar part abt. "Noble Bastard son" , Or something. I was a mage in that playthru. Had just gotten w/ Alistair. We were in Orz., and that notice popped up. How you failed to give your son a chance at a noble birth, etc.

Lol! Gasp!. I thought my Warden was pregnant. And we weren't married. And I knew w/my Warden being  mage...omg. I'm knocked up, and Ali is gonna leave me. Sob! Lmao.

That was the most uncool glitch ever. I didn't know. It seemed totally legit cuz of the timing and whatnot.




O_O What if we were to ever "knock up" our LIs or in turn be knocked up?!?!? I mean I think it would be awesome to have Cassandra have ma babies :D. When I learned Morrigan wanted to make sweet sweet love to me in order to get pregnant I (admitedly was a bit peeved, felt used at first, but) eventually was like. I'm gonna have a little Cousland :D, preferably with his mother's eyes and hair LIKE THIS 


Image IPB

But I'd like to actually get to see my child or my LI pregnant, though I doubt it could happen beyond the first trymester, idk what I'm talking about so excuse me if I say something stupid lol. Just seems like in the latter stages we/our LI would be much more of a burden than anything, plus for lady characters we'd be bed ridden for a good part of the game forcing us to either wait for the baby to be born or taking control away from our main hero and into the hands of one of our companions....which would open up it's own problems.

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R2: Will you help me write a mini story about it? I have all the ideas, but they never come out quite right in story form.

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R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

Which makes me think who in the hell is leading the Templar faction if Lambert is dead? Was there a templar or Seeker I have yet to hear about who maybe was mentioned in the novels?

I've been wondering this myself. Going back to the book, there's that one underling of Lambert's who is also supports Lambert's views rather zealously, Ser Arnaud, to whom he entrusts his letter to Justinia at the end. But I think he's too much of a minion and a thug to take over any kind of leadership role. Personally, I headcanon someone else coming to the forefront after he dies; someone we haven't met yet.


Was Ser Arnaud the douche bag that takes over Evangeline's job? Plus, there could be a small chance that Lambert survived as the book ends before Cole stabs him.

Yeah, that's the dude. he seemed evil enough, but not a big enough personality to be a leader. In my head, Lambert did not survive, but it's possible.


I could see him being arrogant enough to try, maybe leading the Templars/Seekers into some really bad decisions (like taking red lyrium) lol. I could see him getting overthrown pretty quickly though.

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Danny Boy 7 wrote...

Just seems like in the latter stages we/our LI would be much more of a burden than anything, plus for lady characters we'd be bed ridden for a good part of the game forcing us to either wait for the baby to be born or taking control away from our main hero and into the hands of one of our companions....which would open up it's own problems.


OMG I love that image of Morrigan's son; can he PLEASE grow up super fast and be a LI for my beefcake Inquisitor?!

About being preggers; many women are walking cheerfully around and going about their business the day before they give birth. Also, I've played the Sims, so I know you can just be cleaning the house or working out and suddenly go into labor. You pop that sucker out, name him, then go back to your business. Simple as pie! 

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LolaLei wrote...

R2: Will you help me write a mini story about it? I have all the ideas, but they never come out quite right in story form.



Absolutely!

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motomotogirl wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

Just seems like in the latter stages we/our LI would be much more of a burden than anything, plus for lady characters we'd be bed ridden for a good part of the game forcing us to either wait for the baby to be born or taking control away from our main hero and into the hands of one of our companions....which would open up it's own problems.


OMG I love that image of Morrigan's son; can he PLEASE grow up super fast and be a LI for my beefcake Inquisitor?!

About being preggers; many women are walking cheerfully around and going about their business the day before they give birth. Also, I've played the Sims, so I know you can just be cleaning the house or working out and suddenly go into labor. You pop that sucker out, name him, then go back to your business. Simple as pie! 


Well I meant if we're traveling across a country or in combat. Than again they could be like new Conan' the Barbarian's mom in the opening scene. All super pregnantand cutting limbs off.