motomotogirl wrote...
vieralynn wrote...
and some of those thank yous also said that it was really nice to read an exploration of Cullen's characterization that never touches on "oh, and he's really hot."
At another level, I think there is a lot of confusion over liking a character for the struggle they go through versus thinking that if a fan likes a character they clearly support everything that character does.
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I enjoyed reading your thoughts on Cullen and fandom... and feel many of the same things you do lol
I will add that there is nothing wrong with liking a character because he's hot. Too often women are denied desire. We have to provide proof for why we like a character, otherwise we're shallow. Whereas men can lust after female characters and never get called out on it (by other men).
So yes if Cullen were as interesting as he is, but he looked like that fat inkeeper in Redcliffe, I would not be remotely interested in him lol
However, if Cullen looked like he did but had the emotional depth of Random Coterie Bandit #3, I would also not be remotely interested in hi lol
And yes, to your second point there, it is amusing when some, shall we say, fans who dwell on a "lesser" intellectual level, think that in order to like a character, one must completely agree with the character's thoughts and actions. *shakes head and rolls eyes*
No, nothing wrong with appreciating the hotness.
When I read some of the anti-Cullen fandom posts, they often (but not always) take the form of "well, his fans only like him because he's a good looking blond haired white man, so they just excuse him of everything bad he does." That's when I have a big headdesk moment and back away.
I mean, on one hand, that general attitude (not talking about Cullen here, but, instead, all fandoms) definitely does exist. I've run into quite a few fans who get really defensive of their pixel/tv/movie boyfriends, so to speak. I find that I cannot say something critical -- something that a writer would say or something that person who analyses media would say -- without someone pulling me aside to say how my opinions of male character X are wrong because I'm not taking into account A, B, C, and D. That's when I feel like the defensive Girlfriend/Wife is having a TALK with me about how I should see their pixel/tv/movie boyfriend in a positive light. And I'm eventually like this: "Look, I'm coming at this as a writer who sometimes writes fanfiction and who is also coming at this as a media critic. Let's agree to disagree."
Sooooooooo, I can see how the anti-Cullen-fandom fans might feel the need to put up defensive shields BEFORE any characters for DA3 are officially announced, much less any LIs (and, as a betting woman, I'm giving a 50% chance that he's in DA3 as an LI). They're probably bothered by the fact that they know a portion of fandom will start idolizing pixel boyfriend Cullen in a non-critical manner. So, I think they're a little premature and reactive, but I can see why they feel the way they do.
As for me and the attractiveness thing, I didn't find DA:O Cullen the physically attractive (for my tastes) but his story and personality grew on me long before I played DA2. He would still be my favorite character in DA:O even if he looked like the fat inkeeper. The funny thing about his DA2 appearance is that I sort of wish they kept him a ginger rather than making him more blond and giving him so much of a pretty boy look, but I'm not complaining either because my artist self enjoys drawing him. (hmmm. better go work on a painting to, uh, improve my art skills. yeah. improve my art skills. that's what it is all about.):innocent:
Modifié par vieralynn, 19 février 2013 - 04:55 .
). So for example, I could see them clashing in their interpretation of the Order's tenets or in how their duty should be carried out. There are some interesting dichotemies there as well. A Seeker works outside the law, whereas a templar seems to be the embodiment of it. On the other hand, Cassandra is Cullen's superior, and he's been known to make some questionable choices of late. I just see lots of interesting conversations and delightful friction.
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