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Shades_Of_Pale wrote...

Woah, we are almost at 1500! Slow down guys! Have to still work on my photo some more! :P


Lol, I think you've got at least a week left to do it, we're plodding along currently.

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Now close your eyes and imagine that coming from Cullen:

http://m.youtube.com...h?v=lTFBB9QK7LA


Greg Ellis certainly has a set of pipes on him! Amazing!

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Not to upset anybody, because this isn't my intent. Nor to put down the feature or the fans who like said feature, but I've been wondering would the inclusion of races added anything to the plot of DA2? Now let me explain. If the races were there, but the origin was the same (albeit with some differences as to who your family is), i.e. your fleeing the Blight and trying to raise your standing?

Edit: Again I'm not trying to say poo poo to races, nor am I asking someone to defend why they like the feature, I'm just wondering if people simply wanted that prologue? In Origins and imo the choice of race had very little actual influence on the plot. There was varying dialogue with companions and certain outcomes were different, but largely it was the same.

Edit#2: Not that I think they shouldn't have been implemented, nor should ever again. I'm just curious whether it's for the customization + 30min semi-exclusive gameplay people want.

I've been thinking about this a little recently too, wondering for example how many resources it would take to have multiple races. Besides the chargen, writing multiple backgrounds, and cut scene adjustments, how much else?  In DAO there didn't seem to be too much customization of the world to your race, like there was little world reaction to you being a blood mage in DA2. How much of that reactivity would be needed in DA3 if they had multiple races? How much would you want?


I know it's not realistic, at least in my opinion, for it to come up in every conversation both resource wise or story wise (it'd be VERY weird), but I'd like for there to be different outcomes (not necesarilly better or worse) depending on your race. There's not much else though that you can do for races though. I think I'd support an elf or dwarf exclusive game though.

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I do like having butter on my corn, but I can live without it.

I'm pretty lax with what the games have each offered, and I understood why making Hawke not human could of made the story that was being told be a little harder to tell.

Our DA3 protag is supposedly going to have unplayable but selectable origins this time around though, no?

I'd mostly just like to use the character creator to make a dwarf or an elf since they don't just look like short humans anymore. See what I could do.
Always hated how since I play on the xbox, if you choose to be an elf, your ears look like they are plastered to the side of your head. Especially if you use longer hair, you just don't see them at all.

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Batteries wrote...

I do like having butter on my corn, but I can live without it.

I'm pretty lax with what the games have each offered, and I understood why making Hawke not human could of made the story that was being told be a little harder to tell.

Our DA3 protag is supposedly going to have unplayable but selectable origins this time around though, no?

I'd mostly just like to use the character creator to make a dwarf or an elf since they don't just look like short humans anymore. See what I could do.
Always hated how since I play on the xbox, if you choose to be an elf, your ears look like they are plastered to the side of your head. Especially if you use longer hair, you just don't see them at all.


Yep, I imagine that classes will have more to do with the story as well.

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I wonder if classes can dictate who could be in our merry band this go.

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LolaLei wrote...

Now close your eyes and imagine that coming from Cullen:

http://m.youtube.com...h?v=lTFBB9QK7LA


Greg Ellis certainly has a set of pipes on him! Amazing!


Wow, he has a great voice. Hope there's a musical interlude in DA3. I can see the protagonist being romanced with a song!

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Batteries wrote...

I wonder if classes can dictate who could be in our merry band this go.


Possibly, it's a nice way of balancing out parties. I wouldn't be against it though I'd hope we get to keep them for longer than a few hours.

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Maybe Disney will buy Bioware/EA.

:wizard:

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Batteries wrote...

Maybe Disney will buy Bioware/EA.

:wizard:


MAKER NOOOOOOOO!!!

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That symbol on the sign. The closest thing I could think of would be a simplified slavers crest. But it doesn't fit. Must be a new group. The people under it also have another symbol on their cloaks. They do indeed look like Monty Python knights with those helmets. Their symbol is more Templar or Inquisition than Seeker. http://scroii.tumblr...-that-sebastian

I am a bit sad about the reveal not happening during PAX East. But once the lore book comes in April they MUST have something for us? Or?

Truthfully I am starting to hope they wait until after E3 because I am not looking forward to all the whining of gamers who hate that they won't get exactly everything they want. OMG, no silent protagonist = this game will suck even if everything else looks awesome. That's why I lurk here. You guys are the sweetest.

If Cullen isn't a companion but back as a bye stander. Will you be sad? I know I will. Really want to get to know that character more. :) (know more as in snog and have some nookie... Please xD)

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I'd be very gutted, I've been on a year long quest trying to get Cullen as a companion/LI lol.

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Cullen: We are no longer the templars who say ni! Posted Image


I don't know if I'd be sad, but I'd be rather disappointed. I think he's a ripe, shiny, walking character development opportunity by DAII ending just waiting for his time.
so many deliciously evil opportunities to destroy his faith

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Scr0ll wrote...

That symbol on the sign. The closest thing I could think of would be a simplified slavers crest. But it doesn't fit. Must be a new group. The people under it also have another symbol on their cloaks. They do indeed look like Monty Python knights with those helmets. Their symbol is more Templar or Inquisition than Seeker. http://scroii.tumblr...-that-sebastian

I am a bit sad about the reveal not happening during PAX East. But once the lore book comes in April they MUST have something for us? Or?

Truthfully I am starting to hope they wait until after E3 because I am not looking forward to all the whining of gamers who hate that they won't get exactly everything they want. OMG, no silent protagonist = this game will suck even if everything else looks awesome. That's why I lurk here. You guys are the sweetest.

If Cullen isn't a companion but back as a bye stander. Will you be sad? I know I will. Really want to get to know that character more. :) (know more as in snog and have some nookie... Please xD)


Personally I dunno if the guys under the sign have the same symbol on their backs. At least, it doesn't look like it to me.  The one on the cloak seems to have a lot more open area in the center whereas the sign is just a connection of lines.

I imagine that after the lore book and MAYBE the final comic. Unless somehow the lore book spoils something they want to show us in a reveal I think it'll definetily be after that.

I'm there with you, I want to delay the whining as long as possible, but I don't think we should punish ourselves for the complaints/vileness of others know what I mean? So before E3 would be great to me.

I don't think I'd be sad (that he's not a companion), but dissapointed because I know everyone here wanted to hang out with him as a bud and LI. I think if I'm sad it'll be because the chances of him showing up again drop significantly.

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I hope it won't be like when DAII had it's reveal trailer and then we heard nothing for a reeeeeallly long time after.
Maybe they want to make sure they'll have some steady goodies to put out while keeping it feeling fresh over time?

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Batteries wrote...

I hope it won't be like when DAII had it's reveal trailer and then we heard nothing for a reeeeeallly long time after.
Maybe they want to make sure they'll have some steady goodies to put out while keeping it feeling fresh over time?


This is what I'm expecting. That the reveal will show us a lot more than CGI trailer, that hopefully it'll also include real gameplay and they'll be ready to show us the game itself. :shrug: In any event, I'm good with whenever. I would love to hear anything ASAP, but drawing it out is also kind of nice since it delays the gratification.

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Batteries wrote...

I hope it won't be like when DAII had it's reveal trailer and then we heard nothing for a reeeeeallly long time after.
Maybe they want to make sure they'll have some steady goodies to put out while keeping it feeling fresh over time?


I imagine so, but this time they won't have the better part of a year to have to spread out information so maybe we'll get lucky. They might also supplement those inbetween times with stuff like short stories ala DA2.

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Danny Boy 7 wrote...

Scr0ll wrote...

That symbol on the sign. The closest thing I could think of would be a simplified slavers crest. But it doesn't fit. Must be a new group. The people under it also have another symbol on their cloaks. They do indeed look like Monty Python knights with those helmets. Their symbol is more Templar or Inquisition than Seeker. http://scroii.tumblr...-that-sebastian


Personally I dunno if the guys under the sign have the same symbol on their backs. At least, it doesn't look like it to me.  The one on the cloak seems to have a lot more open area in the center whereas the sign is just a connection of lines.

Yeah, I don't think the symbols are the same either. The one  on the flag easily could just be a shop sign, using a symbol again so they don't have to show us the Thedosian alphabet. I think I'm most interested in the Bucketheads.  Squinting, and taking a very broadly astronomical view, it's a star, which is of course sorta related to a sun, which is the Chantry symbol. So they could be priests. I'm thinking instead, tho, that they could be knights or something. I don't recall seeing anything about Celene, but could it be the empress's symbol? Often their symbolism is totally different from the heraldry images (like the original templar heraldry, including below, which is also rather starlike on the inside edge...).

For completeness, again:
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BTW DG won't be at PAX

David Gaider said...
@SubitoAllegra @Mike_Laidlaw @tasmen I'm not going to PAX this year. No freakum dresses for me. :(

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Danny Boy 7 wrote...

BTW DG won't be at PAX

David Gaider said...
@SubitoAllegra @Mike_Laidlaw @tasmen I'm not going to PAX this year. No freakum dresses for me. :(

That makes sense. He'll be on the other coast at that GDC (or whatever it's called) right before PAX.

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R2s Muse wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

Scr0ll wrote...

That symbol on the sign. The closest thing I could think of would be a simplified slavers crest. But it doesn't fit. Must be a new group. The people under it also have another symbol on their cloaks. They do indeed look like Monty Python knights with those helmets. Their symbol is more Templar or Inquisition than Seeker. http://scroii.tumblr...-that-sebastian


Personally I dunno if the guys under the sign have the same symbol on their backs. At least, it doesn't look like it to me.  The one on the cloak seems to have a lot more open area in the center whereas the sign is just a connection of lines.

Yeah, I don't think the symbols are the same either. The one  on the flag easily could just be a shop sign, using a symbol again so they don't have to show us the Thedosian alphabet. I think I'm most interested in the Bucketheads.  Squinting, and taking a very broadly astronomical view, it's a star, which is of course sorta related to a sun, which is the Chantry symbol. So they could be priests. I'm thinking instead, tho, that they could be knights or something. I don't recall seeing anything about Celene, but could it be the empress's symbol? Often their symbolism is totally different from the heraldry images (like the original templar heraldry, including below, which is also rather starlike on the inside edge...).

For completeness, again:
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Might be two new organizations (new to us, not necesarilly new to BW) or Orlesian descent. One could also be the "cover" we use so that the Inquisitor isn't so conspicuous.

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 You know I just realized something. Sebastian's belt buckle, the one of Andraste...that showed up in that concept art from PAX last year. It was on a column and a lot of people thought it was Starkhaven....remember what it looked like?

^_^

Now look at that golden archway 

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R2s Muse wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

BTW DG won't be at PAX

David Gaider said...
@SubitoAllegra @Mike_Laidlaw @tasmen I'm not going to PAX this year. No freakum dresses for me. :(

That makes sense. He'll be on the other coast at that GDC (or whatever it's called) right before PAX.


I'm curious how long he's actually gonna be there though. Unless they have him scheduled to speak for the entire three days.

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Danny Boy 7 wrote...

Batteries wrote...

I hope it won't be like when DAII had it's reveal trailer and then we heard nothing for a reeeeeallly long time after.
Maybe they want to make sure they'll have some steady goodies to put out while keeping it feeling fresh over time?


I imagine so, but this time they won't have the better part of a year to have to spread out information so maybe we'll get lucky. They might also supplement those inbetween times with stuff like short stories ala DA2.


:o I love as many bits and pieces I can scrap together about the lore and its characters, stories straight from the writers of said character/s is even better. 

and that symbol on the flag looks more like a snowflake whose legs fell off to me.

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Danny Boy 7 wrote...

 You know I just realized something. Sebastian's belt buckle, the one of Andraste...that showed up in that concept art from PAX last year. It was on a column and a lot of people thought it was Starkhaven....remember what it looked like?

^_^

Now look at that golden archway 


Oooo! It's the same!!