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#36901
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Two boys and two girls and now that you mention it, I did usually forget more so when I was playing my females.

Probably the hair usually covering the ears too. Even with long hair, the ears on the males are still noticeable.

Most my Wardens shack up with Alistair, so I just imagine he was the one who sweet talked them into becoming the Warden-Commander

EDIT

Actually, only one male elf is Dalish, the other is city. Point still stands, either way.

Modifié par Batteries, 25 février 2013 - 07:39 .


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All of my Elves came out looking really ridiculous, I dunno why. Mind you, my humans never really looked any better LOL!

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For a laugh, Cullenites, vieralynn has a funny shoutout to DA nicknames on tumblr.

http://vieralynn.tum...al-that-isnt-my

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LolaLei wrote...

All of my Elves came out looking really ridiculous, I dunno why. Mind you, my humans never really looked any better LOL!

Me, too. Particularly my male elves. I just couldn't make a goodlooking one to save my life. If I strayed to far from the presets they were suddenly  horridly ugly. This goes back to my feeling that the chargen gives you too many degrees of freedom, resulting in weird@ss looking faces half the time.

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LOL you should've seen my Dragons Dogma characters! Each one more horrific than the previous! :lol:

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 So, I am sure this has been brought up more than once here before, but alas.

If Cullen was hypothetically a LI in the next game, do you think he'd be like... Really, really clingy (not trying to use that word in a bad way here.) and attached? Or more duty-first-I'm-a-party-pooper-oriented?

Just from me guessing, I think he'd be pretty tough/tricky to get close to, but once you breach his barriers: he'd fall, crack, and ooze all over the PC like no one's bizz.

...Basically I think he'll be really, really creepy and weird.
Still undecided if he would lash himself daily for having bad thoughts or resort to panty snorting.

this song also gives me feels

Modifié par Batteries, 25 février 2013 - 03:34 .


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Batteries wrote...

 So, I am sure this has been brought up more than once here before, but alas.

If Cullen was hypothetically a LI in the next game, do you think he'd be like... Really, really clingy (not trying to use that word in a bad way here.) and attached? Or more duty-first-I'm-a-party-pooper-oriented?

Just from me guessing, I think he'd be pretty tough/tricky to get close to, but once you breach his barriers: he'd fall, crack, and ooze all over the PC like no one's bizz.

...Basically I think he'll be really, really creepy and weird.
Still undecided if he would lash himself daily for having bad thoughts or resort to panty snorting.

this song also gives me feels


He seems more like the white knight character type to me, though that might be due to Greg Ellis' voice more than anything. So I imagine he'd be more...idk the stereotypical prince that goes to a castle and tries to save the girl. He'd have all the respect for you, just it's sort of ingrained in him to be chivalrous. 

Mind you it's not, not allowed for a templar to be in a relationship, imo he just had that issue with 1. Amell/Surana being a mage and 2. Him being the one watching over her. So maybe he'll be relatively normal in the relationship, ala Merrill or Alistair.

He might be creepy like you mentioned however, though I think it'd be more...he wants, then doesn't, then does, then doesn't type of deal.

Thats just my two cents anyway :P

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I imagine him to be quite skittish and distant at first what with all the "angst" DG predicts for him, but I guess once you finally win him over he'd be sweet enough, probably gentlemanly but (hopefully) still kinda clueless to general romantic protocol, so maybe he'd get a little flustered or give a gift to the protagonist that seems a little odd (like Aveline and her copper merigolds) LOL!

Modifié par LolaLei, 25 février 2013 - 06:36 .


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R2s Muse wrote...

For a laugh, Cullenites, vieralynn has a funny shoutout to DA nicknames on tumblr.

http://vieralynn.tum...al-that-isnt-my


FEN-FEN!! And CULLYPIE!!!!11 :wub::wub::wub:

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I suppose I also have this white knight vision of him. But, in practice, I always picture him having a hard to time figuring out how to be in a relationship. His whole life has been dedicated to guarding and protecting, so I always imagine him being annoyingly overprotective. Not in a clinging, "LET ME LOVE YOU AND WRAP YOU IN TISSUE PAPER" creepy way, but in a sometimes cold and insensitive way that he doesn't realize might hurt your feelings.

One potentially interesting aspect to this would be the consideration of the individual vs. the greater good (a notion I think I first heard from... berelinde??), where I believe he's spent his life favoring the latter. So how would that figure into a romantic relationship? Is he the type to drown the word in blood for an individual or more the type to sacrifice even his love to save the world? Who knows what the writers would have in store, but I like to imagine him starting at the latter end of the spectrum and having to work hard to develop an appreciation of the individual. Sorta like those friends who don't believe in designating anyone a "best" friend, so therefore really have an ocean of acquaintances.The crisis point of the relationship could be him going from one end to the other.

Modifié par R2s Muse, 25 février 2013 - 04:48 .


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R2s Muse wrote...

I suppose I also have this white knight vision of him. But, in practice, I always picture him having a hard to time figuring out how to be in a relationship. His whole life has been dedicated to guarding and protecting, so I always imagine him being annoyingly overprotective. Not in a clinging, "LET ME LOVE YOU AND WRAP YOU IN TISSUE PAPER" creepy way, but in a sometimes cold and insensitive way that he doesn't realize might hurt your feelings.

One potentially interesting aspect to this would be the consideration of the individual vs. the greater good (a notion I think I first heard from... berelinde??), where I believe he's spent his life favoring the latter. So how would that figure into a romantic relationship? Is he the type to drown the word in blood for an individual or more the type to sacrifice even his love to save the world? Who knows what the writers would have in store, but I like to imagine him starting at the latter end of the spectrum and having to work hard to develop an appreciation of the individual. Sorta like those friends who don't believe in designating anyone a "best" friend, so therefore really have an ocean of acquaintances.The crisis point of the relationship could be him going from one end to the other.


It would certainly be interesting to see which "version" of a Cullen romance arc the devs run with (if at all). I do wonder if maybe all our theories about Cullen has made the writers jobs more difficult though.

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It's too quiet. I don't like it.

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LolaLei wrote...

It's too quiet. I don't like it.


Me neither

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Danny Boy 7 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

It's too quiet. I don't like it.


Me neither


... It's gonna be like this for months, isn't it. Gah, even a new piece of concept art of hint from one of the devs would be better than nothing.

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Come to think of it, isn't it nearly time for another Sprint Review Day?

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LolaLei wrote...

Come to think of it, isn't it nearly time for another Sprint Review Day?


Oh yay, more nonsensical DA3 "hints" :P

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motomotogirl wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Come to think of it, isn't it nearly time for another Sprint Review Day?


Oh yay, more nonsensical DA3 "hints" :P


LOL, anything to keep conversation flowing! Gawd, the whole DA3 forum is practically dead currently too. 

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Yeah it is dead =\\

Maybe we can talk about what we intend to import to DA3 and how we think it'll affect the game (and possibly Cullen).

Thinking of this since I'm currently playing DA:O (and already getting bored with my HN but I will persevere! And also return to my DN playthrough, and start a proper canon DE playthrough).

My DN female Warden romances Alistair. I can't decide if I will put him on the throne or not though because I'm not sure if I'd like this particular import to have Alistair + Warden consort OR Anora w/ Alistair x Warden off adventuring together.

I have no idea what I will do with my HN. Should he marry Anora + keep Zevran on the side? And let Alistair live happily as a Warden? Or perhaps for the first time encourage Alistair x Anora on the throne?

CE playthrough has Alistair on the throne alone.

I guess we won't know how important or unimportant this all is until we get DA3. But suppose Ferelden under Alistair or Anora's rule is different? Perhaps mages live freely under Alistair but remain part of the Circle under Anora. That could affect DA3. (And also Cullen's opinion of a king who is a former templar but is "soft" on mages.)

I don't vary much in my DA2 playthroughs so it's not as relevant. Always support mages, always let Anders live lol Methinks Cullen won't be a fan of my Hawke import.

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I do wonder what his thoughts are about a pro-mage Hawke siding with Orsino, and what his reasons were for letting pro-Mage Hawke 'n' co escape Kirkwall.

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LolaLei wrote...

I do wonder what his thoughts are about a pro-mage Hawke siding with Orsino, and what his reasons were for letting pro-Mage Hawke 'n' co escape Kirkwall.


Me, too, especially since this is one of my FAVORITE scenes in DA2!

I tend to think the trauma of Meredith's maddness was so great that he and the other templars were just in shock. So Cullen let Hawke go because he just needed stability and couldn't deal with deciding whether to apprehend or pardon Hawke, to decide whether or not Hawke is good or bad. He just wants Hawke gone, and for him/her to take all this chaos with him/her, so he (Cullen) can help rebuild the templars and Kirkwall.

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motomotogirl wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I do wonder what his thoughts are about a pro-mage Hawke siding with Orsino, and what his reasons were for letting pro-Mage Hawke 'n' co escape Kirkwall.


Me, too, especially since this is one of my FAVORITE scenes in DA2!

I tend to think the trauma of Meredith's maddness was so great that he and the other templars were just in shock. So Cullen let Hawke go because he just needed stability and couldn't deal with deciding whether to apprehend or pardon Hawke, to decide whether or not Hawke is good or bad. He just wants Hawke gone, and for him/her to take all this chaos with him/her, so he (Cullen) can help rebuild the templars and Kirkwall.


What I really liked about that scene is that it draws parallels to the events between Hawke's father Malcolm and his Templar friend Ser Carver all those years ago in Kirkwall. Ser Carver allowed Malcolm Hawke to escape Kirkwall and years later Knight Captain Cullen allows our Hawke to escape Kirkwall. Granted, the situation between Cullen and Hawke is of a far more serious nature, but that only adds to the poignancy.

I don't know if it was just a coincidence, or purposely done, either way it was a nice little addition and added a little "history repeating" into the mix.

Modifié par LolaLei, 25 février 2013 - 09:58 .


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I'd love for DA3 Cullen to recount the story from his perspective. I wonder if it would change our opinions of his character.

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meanieweenie wrote...

I'd love for DA3 Cullen to recount the story from his perspective. I wonder if it would change our opinions of his character.


What's sad is that even if he is a companion/LI we have so many questions and details we'd liked to find out about him, that I'm pretty sure we'll never find out half of it, simply because there's so much that needs answering that it would probably take up more than the allotted space for individual companion interaction lol.

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Do you think it was because Hawke earned Cullen respect? He could have tried to arrest him and even if he failed more Templar reinforcements would have arrived or maybe he didn't want more casualties? That ending can be explained, but why does Cullen and the Templars bow to Hawke in the Templar ending?

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shepard1038 wrote...

Do you think it was because Hawke earned Cullen respect? He could have tried to arrest him and even if he failed more Templar reinforcements would have arrived or maybe he didn't want more casualties? That ending can be explained, but why does Cullen and the Templars bow to Hawke in the Templar ending?


I got the impression that Cullen 'n' the other Templars bow to Hawke in a pro-Templar ending because 1) Hawke sided with them and 2) because she's/he's to become the new Viscount.

I do wonder why he let pro-mage Hawke go. Was it because Cullen considered Hawke a friend? Or that he felt that in a lot of ways Hawke and himself had been thrown into a similar impossible situation? Was it because Hawke was a fellow Ferelden? Did he just not need the headache of trying to capture Hawke, which would undoubtedly put his life at risk by fighting him/her? Had Cullen finally had enough and thought to himself "balls to this sh!t, I've had enough of Mages and Templars!" Or could it be all of the above?

The one thing I do hope, is that Cullen will explain his actions in DA3.

Modifié par LolaLei, 25 février 2013 - 10:49 .