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[LolaLei]

motomotogirl wrote...

Melca36 wrote...

The backlash from both ME3 and DA2 has changed the way they promote games.

No kidding. I had NO IDEA people beotched about games so much until I joined this forum. DA2 ... loved it! ME3 ... loved it! Good games. Yay. What else is there to say?

People need to relax... 

Maaaan, I dunno if I can hold out until the end of May. I was hoping that we'd get something in April, around the time that The World of Thedas book comes out. Mind you, through Amazon previews I think I already read half the book LOL!

[LolaLei]

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[LolaLei]

Oh gawd, the Cullen memes have started pouring into that DA3 meme thread LOL!

[Demarco09]

LolaLei wrote...

Oh gawd, the Cullen memes have started pouring into that DA3 meme thread LOL!

oh great....


Edit:  Seriously what is it with the hate?  Why do people seriously not like him?  

Modifié par Demarco09, 07 mars 2013 - 04:11 .

[LolaLei]

Demarco09 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Oh gawd, the Cullen memes have started pouring into that DA3 meme thread LOL!

oh great....


Edit:  Seriously what is it with the hate?  Why do people seriously not like him?  

Well, some people hate him by default because he's a Templar and refered to mages are "not people", others because he killed a bunch of mages and went mad in the DA:O epilogues/was a jerk (despite being retconned), but mostly people don't like him because they say the fangirls have made too much of a big deal out of him, and as such they feel that the DA team are gonna force him on everyone to pander to his fans. Which is utter bollocks, but that's the BSN for you.

Modifié par LolaLei, 07 mars 2013 - 04:15 .

[CuriousArtemis]

Demarco09 wrote...

[Edit:  Seriously what is it with the hate?  Why do people seriously not like him?  

I dunno; see my previous statement lol people on the internet who take stuff like games THIS seriously are not normal. I can be indifferent to an NPC, but to hate a character enough to take the time to make graphics and mock his/her fans ... it's weird lol 

[LolaLei]

Actually, we're over due another Cullen hate thread. Usually a new one pops up every other week, but it's been pretty quiet recently lol.

[Demarco09]

Lola, that post you wrote about the spike thing was quite interesting! So I have only seen the movie, but never watched the tv show, which now I kind of want to watch just for this alone! lol

[CuriousArtemis]

LolaLei wrote...

Actually, we're over due another Cullen hate thread. Usually a new one pops up every other week, but it's been pretty quiet recently lol.

Yeah, you know news is slow when the hate threads start lagging!!! lol

[LolaLei]

Demarco09 wrote...

Lola, that post you wrote about the spike thing was quite interesting! So I have only seen the movie, but never watched the tv show, which now I kind of want to watch just for this alone! lol

Admittedly, the TV show hasn't really aged well lol. It's worth it for the cheese factor and the eye candy though! To extend on my theory, in Buffy the Vampire Slayer the Hell Mouth (that sits directly under Sunny Dale) opens and demons start pouring out, if that survey leak is still accurate then one of the descriptions mentions the veil tearing open and demons pouring out... in the TV show Spike sacrifices himself to save Buffy/the world, sooooo yuh, don't be surprised if Cullen ends up pulling a similar stunt (regardless of if this comparison is correct or not. DG loves to make us cry).

[LolaLei]

motomotogirl wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Actually, we're over due another Cullen hate thread. Usually a new one pops up every other week, but it's been pretty quiet recently lol.

Yeah, you know news is slow when the hate threads start lagging!!! lol

LOL, always a silver lining! 

[Demarco09]

motomotogirl wrote...

Demarco09 wrote...

[Edit:  Seriously what is it with the hate?  Why do people seriously not like him?  

I dunno; see my previous statement lol people on the internet who take stuff like games THIS seriously are not normal. I can be indifferent to an NPC, but to hate a character enough to take the time to make graphics and mock his/her fans ... it's weird lol 

Okay, I don't mind a little fan to fan banter on NPC's. But thats only after the game came out using the content that was in the game. Not before a game just to try and persuade someone to not include that npc.
Like Kaidan banter I can take, but I already know he is in the game so I can shrug it off prettttty easily.

[Demarco09]

LolaLei wrote...

Demarco09 wrote...

Lola, that post you wrote about the spike thing was quite interesting! So I have only seen the movie, but never watched the tv show, which now I kind of want to watch just for this alone! lol

Admittedly, the TV show hasn't really aged well lol. It's worth it for the cheese factor and the eye candy though! To extend on my theory, in Buffy the Vampire Slayer the Hell Mouth (that sits directly under Sunny Dale) opens and demons start pouring out, if that survey leak is still accurate then one of the descriptions mentions the veil tearing open and demons pouring out... in the TV show Spike sacrifices himself to save Buffy/the world, sooooo yuh, don't be surprised if Cullen ends up pulling a similar stunt (regardless of if this comparison is correct or not. DG loves to make us cry).

Are you ****g kidding me............ NO.... just NO

[LolaLei]

In Buffy Spike does get brought back to life... That probably wouldn't be the case with Cullen though. Still, they've already done the sacrifice thing before with Alistair if you don't take the dark ritual, so they probably won't use that again so soon.

Speaking of which, apparently Gaider came up with a super evil plot for the game to make the fans cry, I dread to think what it is. I've been fortunate so far that Gaider's bomb shell plots in both DA game (the dark ritual and Anders blowing up the Chantry) didn't bother me, but I suspect my luck is about to run out.

[Demarco09]

Lola, I am sooo done with depressing endings.... I want a satisfying ending. Origins had a satisfying ending (and it wasn't all puppies and bunnies).

[LolaLei]

Also, David Gaider is about to play the Citadel dlc. I hope it gives him some inspiration for DA3, I adore light hearted banter and interactions, it adds a nice little break from all the doom and gloom.

... Which probably explains why my canon male Hawke and female Amell Warden are pretty much sarcastic/funny almost 100% of the time!

Modifié par LolaLei, 07 mars 2013 - 04:41 .

[Demarco09]

Citadel omg... it was the best dlc they have done to date. It made me laugh at every turn, I LOVED it. The characters are just omg so awesome, Grunt is my favorite non-LI companion PERIOD. I remember squee'ing when I saw him return in ME3 and then talking to the screen at Grunt telling him what a cute krogan he was and then my husband gets severely creeped out.

[LolaLei]

Demarco09 wrote...

Lola, I am sooo done with depressing endings.... I want a satisfying ending. Origins had a satisfying ending (and it wasn't all puppies and bunnies).

Me too. Don't get me wrong, the depressing endings should still be in the games, same as the bad endings. BUT I believe there should still be the option to get a "best" ending in which your protagonist wins and lives to tell the tale. 

I hate when people presumes that it means we want an ending full of hearts, flowers and happy little rainbows. There's always going to be a degree of sacrifice and carnage, but allowing for us as the player to have an option to have our character and companions come out of it alive should be available.

Modifié par LolaLei, 07 mars 2013 - 04:48 .

[Demarco09]

LolaLei wrote...

Demarco09 wrote...

Lola, I am sooo done with depressing endings.... I want a satisfying ending. Origins had a satisfying ending (and it wasn't all puppies and bunnies).

Me too. Don't get me wrong, the depressing endings should still be in the games, same as the bad endings. BUT I believe there should still be the option to get a "best" ending in which your protagonist wins and lives to tell the tale. 

I hate when people presumes that it means want an ending full of hearts, flowers and happy little rainbows. There's always going to be a degree of sacrifice and carnage, but allowing for us as the player to have an option to have our character and companions come out of it alive should be available.

If I am going to spend +200 hours on a game............ I think my hard work should at least pay off somehow. Optional best ending should always be there in an rpg, at least one that says you have choices.........

but ya, go ahead and make it hard as hell to get if you want. But with a story like sheps, it was just a no brainer to offer a "best" ending. You know we fans would work our tail ends off to get him to live.

[LolaLei]

Exactly, after 3 bloody games we were invested in Shepard and his/her crew. Of course we'd want the option to have them come out of this alive and together, regardless of how hard it may have been to achieve. I think the fan fallout and retake Mass Effect reaction more than proved it.

Modifié par LolaLei, 07 mars 2013 - 04:53 .

[LolaLei]

Bleugh:




Brace yourselves ladies, it's that time again.

[LolaLei]

I can't see how he can be considered generic when we've hardly seen anything of him yet. All he's been so far is an npc, his character is no where near developed enough to be able to pass judgement about whether he's generic or not.

[deuce985]

Demarco09 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Oh gawd, the Cullen memes have started pouring into that DA3 meme thread LOL!

oh great....


Edit:  Seriously what is it with the hate?  Why do people seriously not like him?  

I tend to think when people have an overwhelming negative attitude on the internet, they have major insecurity problems. That's just an observation by me though. 

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[Demarco09]

LolaLei wrote...

Bleugh:




Brace yourselves ladies, it's that time again.

are you freaking kidding me? Look at him, he is as NON-GENERIC as you can get! He just oozes perfection!

[deuce985]

LolaLei wrote...

Exactly, after 3 bloody games we were invested in Shepard and his/her crew. Of course we'd want the option to have them come out of this alive and together, regardless of how hard it may have been to achieve. I think the fan fallout and retake Mass Effect reaction more than proved it.

But in fairness to Bioware, wouldn't that be worse? People complain about plot holes but if they did just what you said, that would totally go against all writing in the ME universe. They established since the very first game Reapers took an insane amount of resources just to drop one. It took an entire fleet just to drop one Destroyer class Reaper. How could they have a happy ending without doing the dreaded Deus Ex Machina that plagues sci-fi writing? It would defy all laws that Bioware set forth in their own universe.

I liked the ME3 endings because they're not mainstream. I thought it was a ballsy move on their part. If all people want to see is happy endings, then writing creativity will be stunted. This goes back to what I said the other day. Unless we mature as gamers and can accept all themes, we'll continue to get cliches in their writing that appeals to a mainstream audience. You'll never see bold and mature themes like what happened at the end of Walking Dead.

I think part of the outrage for ME3's ending was not just that it wasn't a happy ending but it defied a lot of the themes already in the entire franchise. I think it was a factor of both those things. Nobody made an outcry about Walking Dead's ending and it wasn't exactly happy. Speaking of WD's ending, I thought that was beautiful.