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[littlenikki]

So in attempt to get some fresh discussion going, what do you guys think are some of Cullen's greatest flaws? We all got 'em!

He seems extremely eager to please, as shown in both Origins and II. In the matter of the Warden's Harrowing (if they are a mage of course) he seems really torn between appearing as a dutiful Templar, while also seeming caring and compassionate to Amell/Surana as to not tarnish their friendship. And of course there is his situation with Meredith. I imagine that he would be extra attentive to his peer's opinion of him, due to his previous experiences in Ferelden.

Also he is very brash, and quick to jump to conclusions. He runs off after Wilmod w/out any backup, and is also quick to accuse and dismiss Keran as a threat. The fact that he is so easily swayed can go either way, especially when it comes to a role as a companion. While it's great to have companions with their own opinions, he wouldn't be much of a follower if he never listened to anything the PC says.

This of course is all speculation of things I would hope the devs would consider if they were to include Cullen as a companion.

[meanieweenie]

LolaLei wrote...

Demarco09 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Gaider in regards to the possibility of DA3 being released in Fall this year:

"It's not a rumor, but until we give an official release date I wouldn't put much stock in it."

Followed by:

"It is not. An official. Release date.

It's a target, and can change at any time."

Just give us a little little little tiny bit of info? just a pinch?     its killing me!

Lol, well we definitely won't get anything this month. The World of Thedas book comes out in April, so if nothing else we'll have that to pour over, which should keep us going for the month. After that we'll (hopefully) only need to wait until May or June to hear something.

Am I the only one who wonders what they'd do if everyone just stopped posting on BSN for a month?

[Demarco09]

meanieweenie wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Demarco09 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Gaider in regards to the possibility of DA3 being released in Fall this year:

"It's not a rumor, but until we give an official release date I wouldn't put much stock in it."

Followed by:

"It is not. An official. Release date.

It's a target, and can change at any time."

Just give us a little little little tiny bit of info? just a pinch?     its killing me!

Lol, well we definitely won't get anything this month. The World of Thedas book comes out in April, so if nothing else we'll have that to pour over, which should keep us going for the month. After that we'll (hopefully) only need to wait until May or June to hear something.

Am I the only one who wonders what they'd do if everyone just stopped posting on BSN for a month?

hahahaha

Can you imagine if BSN was dead?  It would probably creep Bioware out so much that they would HAVE to put out info or something, they would be lonely    lol  doubtful, but a very amusing thought

[LolaLei]

They'd probably think the forum had hit some sort of error lol.

[meanieweenie]

I'd say it'd be like the rapture but there's more than one of us that might not catch that train! LOL

[R2s Muse]

meanieweenie wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Demarco09 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Gaider in regards to the possibility of DA3 being released in Fall this year:

"It's not a rumor, but until we give an official release date I wouldn't put much stock in it."

Followed by:

"It is not. An official. Release date.

It's a target, and can change at any time."

Just give us a little little little tiny bit of info? just a pinch?     its killing me!

Lol, well we definitely won't get anything this month. The World of Thedas book comes out in April, so if nothing else we'll have that to pour over, which should keep us going for the month. After that we'll (hopefully) only need to wait until May or June to hear something.

Am I the only one who wonders what they'd do if everyone just stopped posting on BSN for a month?

They would probably break out into the dance of joy!
Now... we dance!

[R2s Muse]

littlenikki wrote...

So in attempt to get some fresh discussion going, what do you guys think are some of Cullen's greatest flaws? We all got 'em!

He seems extremely eager to please, as shown in both Origins and II. In the matter of the Warden's Harrowing (if they are a mage of course) he seems really torn between appearing as a dutiful Templar, while also seeming caring and compassionate to Amell/Surana as to not tarnish their friendship. And of course there is his situation with Meredith. I imagine that he would be extra attentive to his peer's opinion of him, due to his previous experiences in Ferelden.

Also he is very brash, and quick to jump to conclusions. He runs off after Wilmod w/out any backup, and is also quick to accuse and dismiss Keran as a threat. The fact that he is so easily swayed can go either way, especially when it comes to a role as a companion. While it's great to have companions with their own opinions, he wouldn't be much of a follower if he never listened to anything the PC says.

This of course is all speculation of things I would hope the devs would consider if they were to include Cullen as a companion.

Flaws... hmmm, some flaws. I always imagine him not being a very good listener, that he tends to think he's right. He's always so self-possessed when you talk to him in Acts 2 & 3, telling you the very careful party line in his role as Gallows #2. I keep imagining how hard it would be for him to accept the authority of someone like the new Inquisitor, and that she'd have to work damn hard to earn his respect. Like Hawke did without meaning to.  Since he'd be older and more experienced, I think it would be fun if he were a little patronizing, and she/he has to knock him down a peg.

[R2s Muse]

So, it looks like no one is around anymore, but I finally finished my dark and stormy night story! If anyone's interested it's here:

The Coming Storm
In 9:40 Dragon, Knight-Commander Cullen responds to an urgent summons to Val Royeaux and faces a difficult choice that will change the face of Thedas. DA: Asunder spoilers.

[LolaLei]

R2s Muse wrote...

littlenikki wrote...

So in attempt to get some fresh discussion going, what do you guys think are some of Cullen's greatest flaws? We all got 'em!

He seems extremely eager to please, as shown in both Origins and II. In the matter of the Warden's Harrowing (if they are a mage of course) he seems really torn between appearing as a dutiful Templar, while also seeming caring and compassionate to Amell/Surana as to not tarnish their friendship. And of course there is his situation with Meredith. I imagine that he would be extra attentive to his peer's opinion of him, due to his previous experiences in Ferelden.

Also he is very brash, and quick to jump to conclusions. He runs off after Wilmod w/out any backup, and is also quick to accuse and dismiss Keran as a threat. The fact that he is so easily swayed can go either way, especially when it comes to a role as a companion. While it's great to have companions with their own opinions, he wouldn't be much of a follower if he never listened to anything the PC says.

This of course is all speculation of things I would hope the devs would consider if they were to include Cullen as a companion.

Flaws... hmmm, some flaws. I always imagine him not being a very good listener, that he tends to think he's right. He's always so self-possessed when you talk to him in Acts 2 & 3, telling you the very careful party line in his role as Gallows #2. I keep imagining how hard it would be for him to accept the authority of someone like the new Inquisitor, and that she'd have to work damn hard to earn his respect. Like Hawke did without meaning to.  Since he'd be older and more experienced, I think it would be fun if he were a little patronizing, and she/he has to knock him down a peg.

That's one reason (amongst many) why I feel he might not be a companion. Would he do as he's told and allow himself to take orders? Double that if Cassandra is a companion, with two of them refusing to do what they're told it all seems a bit over kill.

[Danny Boy 7]

R2s Muse wrote...

So, it looks like no one is around anymore, but I finally finished my dark and stormy night story! If anyone's interested it's here:

The Coming Storm
In 9:40 Dragon, Knight-Commander Cullen responds to an urgent summons to Val Royeaux and faces a difficult choice that will change the face of Thedas. DA: Asunder spoilers.

Read it and loved it R2, five stars

[R2s Muse]

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

So, it looks like no one is around anymore, but I finally finished my dark and stormy night story! If anyone's interested it's here:

The Coming Storm
In 9:40 Dragon, Knight-Commander Cullen responds to an urgent summons to Val Royeaux and faces a difficult choice that will change the face of Thedas. DA: Asunder spoilers.

Read it and loved it R2, five stars

Ah, Danny, thanks so much. Just got a little flutter from reading your review! :D

[Newschmoo]

R2 - I have read your 'dark and stormy' story and have left a review. It's great and you write so well. It is exactly how I imagined the situation Cullen would be in having read Asunder.

[luckygrrl]

LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

littlenikki wrote...

So in attempt to get some fresh discussion going, what do you guys think are some of Cullen's greatest flaws? We all got 'em!

He seems extremely eager to please, as shown in both Origins and II. In the matter of the Warden's Harrowing (if they are a mage of course) he seems really torn between appearing as a dutiful Templar, while also seeming caring and compassionate to Amell/Surana as to not tarnish their friendship. And of course there is his situation with Meredith. I imagine that he would be extra attentive to his peer's opinion of him, due to his previous experiences in Ferelden.

Also he is very brash, and quick to jump to conclusions. He runs off after Wilmod w/out any backup, and is also quick to accuse and dismiss Keran as a threat. The fact that he is so easily swayed can go either way, especially when it comes to a role as a companion. While it's great to have companions with their own opinions, he wouldn't be much of a follower if he never listened to anything the PC says.

This of course is all speculation of things I would hope the devs would consider if they were to include Cullen as a companion.

Flaws... hmmm, some flaws. I always imagine him not being a very good listener, that he tends to think he's right. He's always so self-possessed when you talk to him in Acts 2 & 3, telling you the very careful party line in his role as Gallows #2. I keep imagining how hard it would be for him to accept the authority of someone like the new Inquisitor, and that she'd have to work damn hard to earn his respect. Like Hawke did without meaning to.  Since he'd be older and more experienced, I think it would be fun if he were a little patronizing, and she/he has to knock him down a peg.

That's one reason (amongst many) why I feel he might not be a companion. Would he do as he's told and allow himself to take orders? Double that if Cassandra is a companion, with two of them refusing to do what they're told it all seems a bit over kill.

I agree. I envision Cullen being very opinionated and stubborn, but he is not beyond reason. I can envision a point in the game, probably toward the climax, where the PC has to make THE big decision in the game and if you choose the option that Cullen doesn't like then he gives you an ear-full and leaves. But I could also see the PC possibly being able to reason with him especially if you have high affection or something.

As far as him being able to take orders, I think it's possible. I mean he is a templar after all which is an order based on a pretty rigid command structure, so I'm assuming that he is used to following orders. I don't think he would be enough of an ass to refuse to help the PC in the normal type of RPG fetch quests.

PC: "We have to free these Tevinter slaves before they are all killed! Cullen please help us!"

Cullen: "Pssh... You can't tell me what to do."

PC: "But Cullen they'll all die! Even the children!"

Cullen: "Nope."   

[R2s Muse]

Newschmoo wrote...

R2 - I have read your 'dark and stormy' story and have left a review. It's great and you write so well. It is exactly how I imagined the situation Cullen would be in having read Asunder.

Ah, Newschmoo, that was you! Thanks so much!

[R2s Muse]

luckygrrl wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

littlenikki wrote...

So in attempt to get some fresh discussion going, what do you guys think are some of Cullen's greatest flaws? We all got 'em!

He seems extremely eager to please, as shown in both Origins and II. In the matter of the Warden's Harrowing (if they are a mage of course) he seems really torn between appearing as a dutiful Templar, while also seeming caring and compassionate to Amell/Surana as to not tarnish their friendship. And of course there is his situation with Meredith. I imagine that he would be extra attentive to his peer's opinion of him, due to his previous experiences in Ferelden.

Also he is very brash, and quick to jump to conclusions. He runs off after Wilmod w/out any backup, and is also quick to accuse and dismiss Keran as a threat. The fact that he is so easily swayed can go either way, especially when it comes to a role as a companion. While it's great to have companions with their own opinions, he wouldn't be much of a follower if he never listened to anything the PC says.

This of course is all speculation of things I would hope the devs would consider if they were to include Cullen as a companion.

Flaws... hmmm, some flaws. I always imagine him not being a very good listener, that he tends to think he's right. He's always so self-possessed when you talk to him in Acts 2 & 3, telling you the very careful party line in his role as Gallows #2. I keep imagining how hard it would be for him to accept the authority of someone like the new Inquisitor, and that she'd have to work damn hard to earn his respect. Like Hawke did without meaning to.  Since he'd be older and more experienced, I think it would be fun if he were a little patronizing, and she/he has to knock him down a peg.

That's one reason (amongst many) why I feel he might not be a companion. Would he do as he's told and allow himself to take orders? Double that if Cassandra is a companion, with two of them refusing to do what they're told it all seems a bit over kill.

I agree. I envision Cullen being very opinionated and stubborn, but he is not beyond reason. I can envision a point in the game, probably toward the climax, where the PC has to make THE big decision in the game and if you choose the option that Cullen doesn't like then he gives you an ear-full and leaves. But I could also see the PC possibly being able to reason with him especially if you have high affection or something.

As far as him being able to take orders, I think it's possible. I mean he is a templar after all which is an order based on a pretty rigid command structure, so I'm assuming that he is used to following orders. I don't think he would be enough of an ass to refuse to help the PC in the normal type of RPG fetch quests.

PC: "We have to free these Tevinter slaves before they are all killed! Cullen please help us!"

Cullen: "Pssh... You can't tell me what to do."

PC: "But Cullen they'll all die! Even the children!"

Cullen: "Nope."   

Agree with all of this! That would be an interest turn in the story, that you make a decision, and depending on your approval at that point, he follows you... or no!  I also agree that he's very structured, and so if he viewed the protagonist as a 'superior' he would follow (and have all sorts of fun issues with disagreeing with you, but not in public, etc etc). The interesting part, to me, would be the protagonist *becoming* his superior, since we've already been told the PC won't be a templar. Hmm....

[Jean]

I hope there will be griffons involved.

Modifié par Batteries, 09 mars 2013 - 01:53 .

[Newschmoo]

luckygrrl wrote...


I agree. I envision Cullen being very opinionated and stubborn, but he is not beyond reason. I can envision a point in the game, probably toward the climax, where the PC has to make THE big decision in the game and if you choose the option that Cullen doesn't like then he gives you an ear-full and leaves. But I could also see the PC possibly being able to reason with him especially if you have high affection or something.

As far as him being able to take orders, I think it's possible. I mean he is a templar after all which is an order based on a pretty rigid command structure, so I'm assuming that he is used to following orders. I don't think he would be enough of an ass to refuse to help the PC in the normal type of RPG fetch quests.

PC: "We have to free these Tevinter slaves before they are all killed! Cullen please help us!"

Cullen: "Pssh... You can't tell me what to do."

PC: "But Cullen they'll all die! Even the children!"

Cullen: "Nope."   

I was thinking about this.  In DAO I thought that Alistair's character was originally going to be an older man, but they made him younger because it was felt that he may not follow the new Warden or take orders due to his experience/age.   Cullen will be mid thirties (or possibly older) in the DA3 setting. 

So I was thinking, if this was the situation, he may be in a position at the start of DA3 where he is assigned to help the protagonist by a superior officer in the Chantry Loyal Templars (or even the Divine, I mean he couldn't refuse).  In this position he will take orders (because it will be for the greater good), even though he may not necessarily agree with them all and may grumble a bit.  I see a rivalmance coming on!

[Demarco09]

R2s Muse wrote...

So, it looks like no one is around anymore, but I finally finished my dark and stormy night story! If anyone's interested it's here:

The Coming Storm
In 9:40 Dragon, Knight-Commander Cullen responds to an urgent summons to Val Royeaux and faces a difficult choice that will change the face of Thedas. DA: Asunder spoilers.

Honestly, you need to write books or something. I have read a lot of fanfic in the past and while there are some really good writers as well as some that are just doing it for the fun. Yours is just so well written, I never feel uncomfortable, I never find flaws (bad habit, I hate it that I am like that), how you describe things I can envision without a problem, it makes SENSE and overall you're just awesome at holding my attention through the whole story(ies).

haha thinking it was facebook I was looking for the 'like' button somewhere, I forget where I am at half the time!

[Demarco09]

Batteries wrote...

I hope there will be griffons involved.

BABY GRIFFINS!!!!!!

Modifié par Demarco09, 09 mars 2013 - 03:50 .

[meanieweenie]

Demarco09 wrote...

Batteries wrote...

I hope there will be griffons involved.

BABY GRIFFINS!!!!!!
*snip!*

They're so cute when they're young.... and then they grow up and try to eat you. Good times!

[Demarco09]

Just picked up Legacy gonna check it out

And Lola you were right, mHawke has some pretty good lines in-game, never really played a male.

Edit:  Forgot how much I love playing a rogue as well, the combat moves are just too damn cool.

Modifié par Demarco09, 09 mars 2013 - 05:29 .

[Demarco09]

Also forgot to mention this, I know it has probably been mentioned before. I am a creature of habit which means I usually stick to rogues or a warrior class, I am not much for spellcasting. But playing a mage in DA2 always seemed so overpowered as a class, BUT after thinking about it, it really fits in with the story. Mages are feared blah, blah, blah, because of their abilities. I liked it

[deuce985]

Mages are OP in both DA games. Rightfully so, based on lore.

I always play a warrior or rogue first too. Mostly because I detest the armor designs for mages. I always play a male for warrior/rogue and then switch to a female for mage. I see mages as wearing more feminine clothing and they don't have big frames for combat like warriors, so I relate that to females. Is that sexist?

[LolaLei]

I've taken to having my import protagonists all mages, in the hopes that it'll prove a point eventually that mages can accomplish great things and have saved the world/cities on numerous times.

[deuce985]

Batteries wrote...

I hope there will be griffons involved.

Kinda like this?