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But they don't necessarily code the game in order, tho. All we really know is that at some point the captain after the end battle was that old dude. We should just ask someone about that one of these days. I wonder if MLaw would tell us.

Come to think of it... It also makes me wonder at what point they did that making of video for DotS. Was the video old? if not, then Why show us old footage? Perhaps it was old promo footage where they used the old dude as a red herring instead of reveal an old favorite.


They probably wouldn't answer the question until after DA3 since we know Cullen's already in it.

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Do ya know what I miss? This thread blazing through the pages and buzzing over new DA3 info and having interesting Cullen related discussions that hadn't been covered a million times before lol.

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I keep trying to think of a discussion question but nothing comes to mind....

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LolaLei wrote...

Do ya know what I miss? This thread blazing through the pages and buzzing over new DA3 info and having interesting Cullen related discussions that hadn't been covered a million times before lol.



Well then!
If Cullen (or DA in general) characters was/were real, what real world fashion would he/they be rockin'? Image IPB 

/honestly the only thing i could think up

Modifié par Batteries, 12 mars 2013 - 04:35 .


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Banana Republic for Cullen ... expensive khakis, a button down shirt, and a soft cashmere sweater vest. Brown Docs for shoes.

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I keep trying to think of a discussion question but nothing comes to mind....


Same here. I think we've literally covered everything in regards to Cullen. Until we hear more about DA3 it's impossible to come up with any decent questions or theories. Hell, even just the new protagonists name and default appearance would be better than nothing, at least then we could make DA3 related fanfic/fanart.

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Batteries wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Do ya know what I miss? This thread blazing through the pages and buzzing over new DA3 info and having interesting Cullen related discussions that hadn't been covered a million times before lol.



Well then!
If Cullen (or DA in general) characters was/were real, what real world fashion would he/they be rockin'? Image IPB 

/honestly the only thing i could think up


LOL, we've covered that one too! :lol:

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Darn. I've lurked in and out of here for many months but must have missed that one.

I could of at least made it sound more colorful...

"Alas, you have reached the end of Dragon Age 3! But what is this? Everyone has stepped through the Eluvian! Where did it lead to, you ask? To none other than our world, of course! But now, everyone looks so out of place. They must purchase new clothing to fit in and avoid attention. Where should they shop and what should they buy?"

i am pretty sure that if something that craptastic would actually happen, they would be entering the world through the freezer section at walmart.

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LolaLei wrote...

LOL, we've covered that one too! :lol:


Yeah I spit my answer out pretty quickly lol

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Batteries wrote...

Darn. I've lurked in and out of here for many months but must have missed that one.

I could of at least made it sound more colorful...

"Alas, you have reached the end of Dragon Age 3! But what is this? Everyone has stepped through the Eluvian! Where did it lead to, you ask? To none other than our world, of course! But now, everyone looks so out of place. They must purchase new clothing to fit in and avoid attention. Where should they shop and what should they buy?"


Lmao. Cullen would rock a plaid shirt. The nerd glasses suit him too (see my banner).

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Actually, with those golden curls Cullen would totally suit the surfer look. Mmmm surfers. *Growls*

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Okay! I believe that Cullen, whether he is a companion, an LI, or an important NPC, will be the man on the fence. He's lived through the worst of both worlds, after all. He's lived through the worst of the mages, he's lived through the prejudices that were born from that, and then he's lived through the worst of the Templars and had his prejudices realigned because of that.... so how do you start to fix that? Especially with a war for either oppression or freedom being raged with what seems like no chance of compromise. (Thanks for that, Anders!)

I'm sure this has been discussed, but I have to ask... if Cullen is on the fence like I believe he might be and a tweet sort of hinted that he would be (How Cullen of you! Pick a side.), do you think there'll be any decisions where Cullen argues for NOT deciding anything/stepping in? And if so, what kind of circumstances?

SPECULATE START?

I'm sorry, I'm such an awkward turtle. XD

(And seriously. Thedas needs Hogwarts.)

Edit: for types. 

Modifié par Dirgegun, 12 mars 2013 - 05:16 .


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Ugh. Man, I need some DA3 news and something to play.

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Dirgegun wrote...

Okay! I believe that Cullen, whether he is a companion, an LI, or an important NPC, will be the man on the fence. He's lived through the worst of both worlds, after all. He's lived through the worst of the mages, he's lived through the prejudices that were born from that, and then he's lived through the worst of the Templars and had his prejudices realigned because of that.... so how do you start to fix that? Especially with a war for either oppression or freedom being raged with what seems like no chance of compromise. (Thanks for that, Anders!)

I'm sure this has been discussed, but I have to ask... if Cullen is on the fence like I believe he might be and a tweet sort of hinted that he would be (How Cullen of you! Pick a side.), do you think they'll be any decisions where Cullen argues for NOT deciding anything/stepping in? And if so, what kind of circumstances?

SPECULATE START?

I'm sorry, I'm such an awkward turtle. XD

(And seriously. Thedas needs Hogwarts.)



Ooooo good one!

Hm, it's really hard to say since we don't know what sort of state Thedas will be in in DA3. But presuming that it's a year or so after the events of Asunder I could imagine him having a real personal crisis being unable to decide what to do for the best. I'm fairly sure that he's gonna be one of the Templars that remained loyal to the Divine, so I guess he'll believe in whatever stance she decides to take.

I could imagine him having reservations about turning against some of his rebelled Templar brothers, especially if they're naive to Lambert's plan (or whoevers now incharge). Aside from that I've no idea, potentially he could argue with the protagonist against taking action over a lot of things, since he's experienced so much during the course of 10+ years.

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Dirgegun wrote...

Okay! I believe that Cullen, whether he is a companion, an LI, or an important NPC, will be the man on the fence. He's lived through the worst of both worlds, after all. He's lived through the worst of the mages, he's lived through the prejudices that were born from that, and then he's lived through the worst of the Templars and had his prejudices realigned because of that.... so how do you start to fix that? Especially with a war for either oppression or freedom being raged with what seems like no chance of compromise. (Thanks for that, Anders!)

I'm sure this has been discussed, but I have to ask... if Cullen is on the fence like I believe he might be and a tweet sort of hinted that he would be (How Cullen of you! Pick a side.), do you think they'll be any decisions where Cullen argues for NOT deciding anything/stepping in? And if so, what kind of circumstances?

SPECULATE START?

I'm sorry, I'm such an awkward turtle. XD

(And seriously. Thedas needs Hogwarts.)


I honestly believe neither side is right in this conflict. They both have issues that need to be dealt with. Cullen himself has seen the extreme of both side. If that did anything to him, it made him wiser. I think he's going to stay neutral and not pick a side.

My personal take on this entire war is that both sides will put their differences aside to deal with a greater threat. Nothing like a greater evil to come along and allow people to unite. That's the most logical conclusion I've built in my head. I simply see no compromise between the other sides otherwise. It needs to be something dramatic to make people see past their own stubborn ways. You kinda forget who's standing beside you when your world is threatened. Once that threat is dealt with, unity comes into play.

Thus, I believe Cullen and many of our companions will be neutral.

Modifié par deuce985, 12 mars 2013 - 05:15 .


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deuce985 wrote...

Ugh. Man, I need some DA3 news and something to play.


We need to plan another Cullen-thread wide online gaming night like we did when nikki was playing ToR.

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LolaLei wrote...

Dirgegun wrote...

Okay! I believe that Cullen, whether he is a companion, an LI, or an important NPC, will be the man on the fence. He's lived through the worst of both worlds, after all. He's lived through the worst of the mages, he's lived through the prejudices that were born from that, and then he's lived through the worst of the Templars and had his prejudices realigned because of that.... so how do you start to fix that? Especially with a war for either oppression or freedom being raged with what seems like no chance of compromise. (Thanks for that, Anders!)

I'm sure this has been discussed, but I have to ask... if Cullen is on the fence like I believe he might be and a tweet sort of hinted that he would be (How Cullen of you! Pick a side.), do you think they'll be any decisions where Cullen argues for NOT deciding anything/stepping in? And if so, what kind of circumstances?

SPECULATE START?

I'm sorry, I'm such an awkward turtle. XD

(And seriously. Thedas needs Hogwarts.)



Ooooo good one!

Hm, it's really hard to say since we don't know what sort of state Thedas will be in in DA3. But presuming that it's a year or so after the events of Asunder I could imagine him having a real personal crisis being unable to decide what to do for the best. I'm fairly sure that he's gonna be one of the Templars that remained loyal to the Divine, so I guess he'll believe in whatever stance she decides to take.

I could imagine him having reservations about turning against some of his rebelled Templar brothers, especially if they're naive to Lambert's plan (or whoevers now incharge). Aside from that I've no idea, potentially he could argue with the protagonist against taking action over a lot of things, since he's experienced so much during the course of 10+ years.


I honestly don't think the Templars as an organization will exist in DA3. I believe they are tore down and that's partially why the Inquisition exists. The Inquisition will be made up of many people of former titles like Templar or even mages. Not every mage is going to think the rebellion is right. Hell, my mage actually picked against them lol. That's where Cullen comes into play. He feels the Inquisition is the right thing as a former Templar. So, he sits under that banner. This will include all of Thedas and the Inquisition will be full of diversity. It's formed to stop whatever new evil plagues Thedas.

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brushyourteeth wrote...

deuce985 wrote...

Ugh. Man, I need some DA3 news and something to play.


We need to plan another Cullen-thread wide online gaming night like we did when nikki was playing ToR.


I would totally do that but I don't think everyone in here has the same systems or gaming PCs. I have a PS3/gaming PC personally.

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deuce985 wrote...

Dirgegun wrote...

Okay! I believe that Cullen, whether he is a companion, an LI, or an important NPC, will be the man on the fence. He's lived through the worst of both worlds, after all. He's lived through the worst of the mages, he's lived through the prejudices that were born from that, and then he's lived through the worst of the Templars and had his prejudices realigned because of that.... so how do you start to fix that? Especially with a war for either oppression or freedom being raged with what seems like no chance of compromise. (Thanks for that, Anders!)

I'm sure this has been discussed, but I have to ask... if Cullen is on the fence like I believe he might be and a tweet sort of hinted that he would be (How Cullen of you! Pick a side.), do you think they'll be any decisions where Cullen argues for NOT deciding anything/stepping in? And if so, what kind of circumstances?

SPECULATE START?

I'm sorry, I'm such an awkward turtle. XD

(And seriously. Thedas needs Hogwarts.)


I honestly believe neither side is right in this conflict. They both have issues that need to be dealt with. Cullen himself has seen the extreme of both side. If that did anything to him, it made him wiser. I think he's going to stay neutral and not pick a side.

My personal take on this entire war is that both sides will put their differences aside to deal with a greater threat. Nothing like a greater evil to come along and allow people to unite. That's the most logical conclusion I've built in my head. I simply see no compromise between the other sides otherwise. It needs to be something dramatic to make people see past their own stubborn ways. You kinda forget who's standing beside you when your world is threatened. Once that threat is dealt with, unity comes into play.

Thus, I believe Cullen and many of our companions will be neutral.


The only problem I see with the greater evil deal encouraging unity is the nature of what that greater evil might be. If it's a magic based evil, I'm not sure that would help the mages overall. If it's an evil that is magic based BUT also spreads light on the true deal with the black city/the mirrors/whatever Flemeth and Morrigan seem to know, then maybe... 

Mmph.

So much to speculate on, but so little actual information to use for said speculations! 

Modifié par Dirgegun, 12 mars 2013 - 05:24 .


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I don't even think mages and Templars will be the central focus in DA3. I think the first quarter of the game WILL be about them but then something comes along that changes the entire landscape to a greater evil war.

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deuce985 wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

deuce985 wrote...

Ugh. Man, I need some DA3 news and something to play.


We need to plan another Cullen-thread wide online gaming night like we did when nikki was playing ToR.


I would totally do that but I don't think everyone in here has the same systems or gaming PCs. I have a PS3/gaming PC personally.

Most of us just joined in to chat with headsets/webcams or via text. And watched nikki's smuggler dance. And flirt a lot. LOL

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deuce985 wrote...

Dirgegun wrote...

Okay! I believe that Cullen, whether he is a companion, an LI, or an important NPC, will be the man on the fence. He's lived through the worst of both worlds, after all. He's lived through the worst of the mages, he's lived through the prejudices that were born from that, and then he's lived through the worst of the Templars and had his prejudices realigned because of that.... so how do you start to fix that? Especially with a war for either oppression or freedom being raged with what seems like no chance of compromise. (Thanks for that, Anders!)

I'm sure this has been discussed, but I have to ask... if Cullen is on the fence like I believe he might be and a tweet sort of hinted that he would be (How Cullen of you! Pick a side.), do you think they'll be any decisions where Cullen argues for NOT deciding anything/stepping in? And if so, what kind of circumstances?

SPECULATE START?

I'm sorry, I'm such an awkward turtle. XD

(And seriously. Thedas needs Hogwarts.)


I honestly believe neither side is right in this conflict. They both have issues that need to be dealt with. Cullen himself has seen the extreme of both side. If that did anything to him, it made him wiser. I think he's going to stay neutral and not pick a side.

My personal take on this entire war is that both sides will put their differences aside to deal with a greater threat. Nothing like a greater evil to come along and allow people to unite. That's the most logical conclusion I've built in my head. I simply see no compromise between the other sides otherwise. It needs to be something dramatic to make people see past their own stubborn ways. You kinda forget who's standing beside you when your world is threatened. Once that threat is dealt with, unity comes into play.

Thus, I believe Cullen and many of our companions will be neutral.


Agreed.

Although I won't be surprised if the newly rebelled Templars end up getting wiped out by their own stupidity and extreme stance of mage slaying (or red lyrium lol). So I think it'll be the Divine loyal Templars and the rebelled mages (that don't resort to working with demons) will end up working together to help the protagonist fight the big bad.

I think you're right about Cullen remaining neutral. In theory he should've worked out by now that for all his good intentions the Templar/Circle situation isn't working, mainly because the Templars have lost their way over the years. I think (hope) that's he's gotten to the stage where he wants to come up with a solution to create peace, and maybe throughout DA3 he'll come to realise that not all mages need to be handled with kid gloves lol.

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deuce985 wrote...

I don't even think mages and Templars will be the central focus in DA3. I think the first quarter of the game WILL be about them but then something comes along that changes the entire landscape to a greater evil war.


Agree with this, although I really do hope that they don't try to use the Chantry/Mages as a red herring and change antagonists in the middle like they did in DAII. It's been done, and not even done well.

Honestly, I'm sick to death of mages and templars. I'd really like for DA to veer off in a new direction for awhile. I'd like some surprises.

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brushyourteeth wrote...

deuce985 wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

deuce985 wrote...

Ugh. Man, I need some DA3 news and something to play.


We need to plan another Cullen-thread wide online gaming night like we did when nikki was playing ToR.


I would totally do that but I don't think everyone in here has the same systems or gaming PCs. I have a PS3/gaming PC personally.

Most of us just joined in to chat with headsets/webcams or via text. And watched nikki's smuggler dance. And flirt a lot. LOL


Well, she did do a Livestream broadcast a few weeks ago of DAO and some of us joined for that. It was fun. She should do it again. :D

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deuce985 wrote...

I don't even think mages and Templars will be the central focus in DA3. I think the first quarter of the game WILL be about them but then something comes along that changes the entire landscape to a greater evil war.


Yeah, I reckon the mage/templar thing will just be the inital backdrop to the game. Perhaps at first they'll even let us think that it's the main storyline, but then something big will happen and it'll turn out that it's something much bigger and more dangerous that's threatening Thedas.

If that survey leak is anything to go by then supposedly something has been pulling the strings behind the scenes.