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This. So. Much. This. I would want to see it even if there was no fun with the LI, just because pretty masks and Orlesian ballrooms and... and there's so much that can be done with that backdrop! :wub:

(I would really like some LI fun at a masked ball, though. Or getting to flirt with the token jerk 'bad guy/girl' without 'em realising. :whistle:)

I know. Seeing folks wandering the streets of Orlais with masks just made me realize how much cloak and dagger fun can be had  in an environment where you never know who's who.

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R2s Muse wrote...

I know. Seeing folks wandering the streets of Orlais with masks just made me realize how much cloak and dagger fun can be had  in an environment where you never know who's who.

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.................Oh....

I'll just be in this corner squealing like a fangirl, don't mind me! These are seriously awesome, though, and if DA:I has the atmosphere and look this concept has then... th-then...

There are not enough heart related emotes for this.

#38803
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Dirgegun wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

I know. Seeing folks wandering the streets of Orlais with masks just made me realize how much cloak and dagger fun can be had  in an environment where you never know who's who.

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DA: The World of Thedas, image copyright Dark Horse 2013


.................Oh....

I'll just be in this corner squealing like a fangirl, don't mind me! These are seriously awesome, though, and if DA:I has the atmosphere and look this concept has then... th-then...

There are not enough heart related emotes for this.


LOL Where's my Like button?

#38804
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Oh Maker! MoTA's harlequin made me go gaga as it is. Imagine the full blown eyegasm if it were a city or ballroom full of masked yumminess and intrigue. Add some cloak and dagger into the mix and I don't know if I would want to leave.

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What's even better is that some of those masks are creepy as hell. I'll likely turn a corner and damn near have a heart attack thinking it's a bad guy LOL!

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R2s Muse wrote...

Dirgegun wrote...

Okay! I believe that Cullen, whether he is a companion, an LI, or an important NPC, will be the man on the fence. He's lived through the worst of both worlds, after all. He's lived through the worst of the mages, he's lived through the prejudices that were born from that, and then he's lived through the worst of the Templars and had his prejudices realigned because of that.... so how do you start to fix that? Especially with a war for either oppression or freedom being raged with what seems like no chance of compromise. (Thanks for that, Anders!)

I'm sure this has been discussed, but I have to ask... if Cullen is on the fence like I believe he might be and a tweet sort of hinted that he would be (How Cullen of you! Pick a side.), do you think there'll be any decisions where Cullen argues for NOT deciding anything/stepping in? And if so, what kind of circumstances?

SPECULATE START?

I'm sorry, I'm such an awkward turtle. XD

(And seriously. Thedas needs Hogwarts.)

Edit: for types. 

I know I'm chiming in late. I agree with what everyone has said about Cullen not being strictly pro-rebelled mages nor pro-rebelled templars (for lack of better descriptions). I don't see him taking a side in the battle between the two. But, I also don't see him being neutral. I think we saw in the DA2 that he developed some very specific ideas about "what being templar is about" and I think that, no matter what those two institutions decide to do post-Asunder, he would go his own way toward what he thinks is right. So, it might be a third side, but I think he'd be far from neutral. We've seen that he's willing to stand up for what he believes... finally! I don't see him suddenly losing that (unless we see some new serious crisis of faith that totally unbalances him again off screen).


I could see him wanting to find a way to  find a compromise/peace but not fully knowing how to achieve that, so he's just doing the best he can and putting his faith in the Maker for guidance. That's where our protagonist comes into play and does whatever it is he/she is required to do lol.

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So, I'm chiming in late -- but about the mages and why anyone would ever want to not help those poor, downtrodden souls...
I think one of the main themes of DA (and it does have themes -- DG is first and foremost a writer, after all) is that the person who has power will abuse it. The historical Inquisition (which became the Templar order) rose up in defense of the everyman who were being systematically abused by mages (not every mage, surely, but enough to form a stigma) to the point that people began to abandon their normal lives and devote themselves to protecting the defenseless against abusive magic.

As of 9 Dragon when we enter the scene, the mages have been subdued and are being squeezed so tight that the oppressed are now the oppressors. They're packed into these Circles and treated so badly that the whole place is like a powder keg that only needs one spark to blow completely out of control. It's a bad situation. Let's not forget that they're *policed* by an institution that profits greatly from the making and selling of potions and magical artifacts. It's a recipe for mismanagement (to say the least). But because the Chantry has power, the Chantry abuses power. Because the Imperium has power, the Imperium abuses power. Mages with too much power will abuse their power. Dwarves with too much power will abuse their power. Etc. etc.

When the two factions break apart in "Asunder" there's definitely need for a third faction that will be a voice of reason. Whatever your definition of reason is. Just take a look at the DAIII discussion forum and you'll see that not everyone agrees on that point. But regardless of whether you're with the mages, templars, both, or neither, the conflict will set the stage for good gameplay. Image IPB


Me, I'm probably going to replay this thing all to pieces and explore every point of view at least once. Image IPB

#38808
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Can you imagine if the only way to get the Cullen romance to trigger was to be manipulative and underhanded? Not trolling.... just a weird thought.

Edit: That's a fantastic point, brush! What's that saying? "Absolute power corrupts absolutely". No matter what team you end up batting for, someone somewhere is going to take it too far and the pendulum once again swings the other way. The world only gets those breif moments in between when all seems balanced.

Modifié par meanieweenie, 12 mars 2013 - 06:49 .


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Soo
I saw someone post something about a DAO livestream a little ways back and thought to myself that could be fun.
So I started up a livestream thingy and checked to see if my little craptastic laptop could handle it and it seems to work fine, just not in fantabulous quality but good enough to still watch 

new.livestream.com/accounts/3237660/events/1945960

If enough people were interested I wouldn't mind starting up a mage Warden and cause shenanigans
I don't have much else to do today

I'm still getting used to playing on pc so I'm still a little derp-a-derp

Modifié par Batteries, 12 mars 2013 - 07:58 .


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Tweet:

Evil Chris: "Back in the office and working. Hooray! What? An all day meeting to discuss design of upcoming social sites? *sigh* So much for productivity"

Oooo upcoming social sites, sounds like that could be happening sooner than we thought.

Modifié par LolaLei, 12 mars 2013 - 07:19 .


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I sure hope they come up with a way to wrangle up the angry nasties and make them behave. And give us a 'like' button. And a 'dislike'. And maybe a 'go F yourself'. (says the girl who just asked for the nasties to go away) LOL

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LolaLei wrote...

Tweet:

Evil Chris: "Back in the office and working. Hooray! What? An all day meeting to discuss design of upcoming social sites? *sigh* So much for productivity"

Oooo upcoming social sites, sounds like that could be happening sooner than we thought.



New social.bioware or DA III and ME4 site?

#38813
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I hope if it's a new BSN that it can transfer info easily.

#38814
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meanieweenie wrote...

I sure hope they come up with a way to wrangle up the angry nasties and make them behave. And give us a 'like' button. And a 'dislike'. And maybe a 'go F yourself'. (says the girl who just asked for the nasties to go away) LOL

I need this button! LOL

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Wiedzmin182009 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Tweet:

Evil Chris: "Back in the office and working. Hooray! What? An all day meeting to discuss design of upcoming social sites? *sigh* So much for productivity"

Oooo upcoming social sites, sounds like that could be happening sooner than we thought.



New social.bioware or DA III and ME4 site?


I figured it was a new BSN, which was the subject of that survey we got a few months back. heh, maybe that's part of the DA3 news delay? They want us on the new forums first?  Hmm....

#38816
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Who likes all day meetings? They are the worst lol

#38817
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R2s Muse wrote...

Wiedzmin182009 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Tweet:

Evil Chris: "Back in the office and working. Hooray! What? An all day meeting to discuss design of upcoming social sites? *sigh* So much for productivity"

Oooo upcoming social sites, sounds like that could be happening sooner than we thought.



New social.bioware or DA III and ME4 site?


I figured it was a new BSN, which was the subject of that survey we got a few months back. heh, maybe that's part of the DA3 news delay? They want us on the new forums first?  Hmm....


Could be implementing the new DA3 side of the forum too.

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 You know, all this Lyrium Dust I keep finding stashed around the circle tower is really making me think the mages are like drug dealers, bribing the templars with "the dust" to make them turn a blind eye. :P

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Batteries wrote...

 You know, all this Lyrium Dust I keep finding stashed around the circle tower is really making me think the mages are like drug dealers, bribing the templars with "the dust" to make them turn a blind eye. :P


I like that idea!

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Considering I just found some in a vase in a corner?

I'm sold on it.

"Hey big guy, me and Sally are going to have some fun here... There's also a suprise for you in that vase! :wizard:" 

Modifié par Batteries, 12 mars 2013 - 09:02 .


#38821
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The best thing I discovered in DA:O recently is that Cullen is the Templar that gives one of the old mages stink eye lol.

#38822
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Batteries wrote...

 You know, all this Lyrium Dust I keep finding stashed around the circle tower is really making me think the mages are like drug dealers, bribing the templars with "the dust" to make them turn a blind eye. :P

God, I hadn't really thought about the dichotemy that lyrium is seemingly so plentiful for mages and yet so regulated for templars. Yeah, that has recipe for disaster written all over it! LOL

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Batteries wrote...

Soo
I saw someone post something about a DAO livestream a little ways back and thought to myself that could be fun.
So I started up a livestream thingy and checked to see if my little craptastic laptop could handle it and it seems to work fine, just not in fantabulous quality but good enough to still watch 

new.livestream.com/accounts/3237660/events/1945960

If enough people were interested I wouldn't mind starting up a mage Warden and cause shenanigans
I don't have much else to do today

I'm still getting used to playing on pc so I'm still a little derp-a-derp


Just saw this and I think it's a great idea! Today's not great for me personally, but I'd definitely love to do it soon!!!  Image IPB

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R2s Muse wrote...

Batteries wrote...

 You know, all this Lyrium Dust I keep finding stashed around the circle tower is really making me think the mages are like drug dealers, bribing the templars with "the dust" to make them turn a blind eye. :P


God, I hadn't really thought about the dichotemy that lyrium is seemingly so plentiful for mages and yet so regulated for templars. Yeah, that has recipe for disaster written all over it! LOL


Considering that the Mage Collective openly operates on the Circle's own doorstep and one of their missions is to bribe Templars with lyrium...?

Does that make First Enchanter Irving the Mage version of Tony Montana?!

Drop the wise old Merlin act, we're onto you!

:lol:

#38825
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For those that haven't seen it, new DG blog on the characters he's personally written since BG2. Deekin, FTW!! LOL