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[LolaLei]

Sifr1449 wrote...

You know, I kinda want to play LolaLei's protagonist, the idea of a random person from the streets, being mistaken for someone important and forced to play that role would be awesome?!

Thanks! I think it would make a nice change from being a special snowflake. As Emzamination pointed out, in all the BioWare games the character has been special in some way, even if it's down to being the most skilled soldier or the favourite child etc.

I'd literally like to take a complete nobody that no one gives a sh!t about, who's faced nothing but trials 'n' hardship and then throw them into an important role completely by accident and have them rise to the challenge and come out on top. 

... Hm, maybe that's why I've taken such an interest in Cullen, that's pretty much his story so far LOL! 

Modifié par LolaLei, 13 mars 2013 - 03:24 .

[Jean]

 B-b-But if the main character isn't special, how else are we supposed to feel important and purr when our ego is stroked? 


/Playing as another apostate works for me

Someone completely unimportant; no riches and no noble family ties whatsoever. 

Modifié par Batteries, 13 mars 2013 - 03:30 .

[LolaLei]

Batteries wrote...

 B-b-But if the main character isn't special, how else are we supposed to feel important and purr when our ego is stroked? 


/Playing as another apostate works for me

Our egos would be stroked once we'd proved everyone wrong and become totally badass by succeeding at whatever it is DA3 is about LOL. 

[Sifr]

Because we could later discover that the REAL Inquisitor was actually a horrible individual, who was corrupt, a religious extremist, racist towards elves, and kicked Mabari puppies too! The fiend!

Thus, ego stroking is found in all the good deeds we've done in their stead, which made the world a better place than s/he ever would have!

[LolaLei]

Sifr1449 wrote...

Because we could later discover that the REAL Inquisitor was actually a horrible individual, who was corrupt, a religious extremist, racist towards elves, and kicked Mabari puppies too! The fiend!

Thus, ego stroking is found in all the good deeds we've done in their stead, which made the world a better place than s/he ever would have!

Or he'd be dead, so the Inquisition would never have succeeded or even formed because his body would be long since mushed up LOL.

[brushyourteeth]

LolaLei wrote...

Ok, so that thread in the DA3 forums about having a protagonist that isn't a "special snowflake" has given me inspiration for a new question:

If you could pick any type of background for your new protagonist, what would it be? And how would you have him/her introduced into the Inquisition. This includes family background, class, gender, where he/she is from, race, etc. Feel free to go into as much or as little detail as you want!

Here's the kind of background I'd like for my DA3 protagonist and how she comes to be the Inquisitor (or whatever):

Female. Apostate mage (although I also wouldn't mind this kind of background for a rogue or a warrior). Human. (I don't mind where in Thedas she's from):

The protagonist has spent her life on the streets: Your mother was a penniless drunk that often sold her body just to get her next drink, you don't know who your father is but it's likely that it was one of her "clients". When you were just 8 years old you witnessed one of your mothers jealous lovers murder her in cold blood before turning his knife on you, suddenly something snapped inside you. Before you realised what was happening you'd burnt the man to a cinder, and that was when you realised you were a mage. Terrified that the Templars would take you to the big scary circle or kill you, and newly orphaned, you fled the area by stowing away in the back of a merchants cart. Arriving in Val Royeaux (or wherever the new game has us start out) you purposely get lost in the crowd, sticking to the cities seedy underbelly. There you learn the skills needed to survive, your magical talent giving you an extra edge against any would-be attackers. During your time on the streets you befriend another street urchin. You and he have run together for years, living off your wits, often travelling into the richer parts of the city to steal/con the rich folk, sometimes for money, sometimes for fun.

Over the past month/year or so (depending on how soon after Asunder this takes place) you've noticed that the mage/templar rebellion and civil war has been beneficial to you, the commotion has allowed you to steal and thrive easier. You don't care about the mage/templar issue despite being a mage since you're only interested in looking out yourself (and your friend/implied potential lover, if you want), the pair of you have silly grand plans to eventually make enough money to get yourselves off the streets, go travelling or whatever (you're made to believe that he's your best friend and that he's got your back). Through the grapevine you hear about some sort of peace gathering, and the pair of you decide that this would be the perfect opportunity to make some easy money (via stealing/conning/doing odd jobs or whatever mini quests are available at the gathering), in the middle of your mini crime spree your friend steals something from an important looking person, the person notices and your friend swiftly plants the item on you instead and makes a run for it leaving you behind to take the punishment. Just as you're about to be apprehend the magical blast happens (or whatever it is), throwing the area into chaos.

The blast sends you flying, temporarily knocking you out. Your would-be jailor aggressively shakes you awake as a cutscene occurs in which you see the fallout happening around you and the important person's dead body on the ground nearby. You are temporarily forced to work with your jailor to fight your way to safety, he intends to lock you up once you're both out of the line of fire. You continue to fight your way to safety, until you encounter a mini boss fight which kills your jailor. You notice that the situation is getting worse as more demons (or whatever) approach, so you get the hell out of there fast. As you stumble to safety, the wake of the destruction becomes clear. Slumping yourself down on the floor to catch your breath you realise you're still carrying whatever it is your friend planted on you, and as you pull the item from your pocket and look at it someone sees you holding said item and presumes you're the important person. Not wanting to risk getting yourself arrested for theft you play along, presuming you'd be able to make your escape later, but of course things escalate out of control and you find yourself leading the Inquisition. 


Ok, your turn! (Sorry that was so long LOL).

I really like this!!

I think I'd like to do something similar (with the rough background) but rather than being a mage, I'd enjoy being a bard that was part of Orlais' Grand Game. Under cover as a simple serving girl or street performer, but actually collecting secrets for an anonymous source who pays handsomely but never gives me any information about his/her identity or cause. Then when all hell breaks loose, I find that I've been informing for either the Divine or the Mages Collective (depending on my earlier dialogue choices) and am basically kidnapped and made an offer I can't refuse. Thus I end up involved in the Inquisition (whatever that means at this point). 

[Sifr]

My Inquisitor would keep their skull on their desk and turn their fingerbones into a quill, that way if I was found out as a fraud, I could claim that technically, they "oversaw" all of the decisions and signed the orders!

Lawyered!

:innocent:

[LolaLei]

brushyourteeth wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Ok, so that thread in the DA3 forums about having a protagonist that isn't a "special snowflake" has given me inspiration for a new question:

If you could pick any type of background for your new protagonist, what would it be? And how would you have him/her introduced into the Inquisition. This includes family background, class, gender, where he/she is from, race, etc. Feel free to go into as much or as little detail as you want!

Here's the kind of background I'd like for my DA3 protagonist and how she comes to be the Inquisitor (or whatever):

*Snip*

I really like this!!

I think I'd like to do something similar (with the rough background) but rather than being a mage, I'd enjoy being a bard that was part of Orlais' Grand Game. Under cover as a simple serving girl or street performer, but actually collecting secrets for an anonymous source who pays handsomely but never gives me any information about his/her identity or cause. Then when all hell breaks loose, I find that I've been informing for either the Divine or the Mages Collective (depending on my earlier dialogue choices) and am basically kidnapped and made an offer I can't refuse. Thus I end up involved in the Inquisition (whatever that means at this point). 

That's an awesome idea! Like, maybe in the opening scenes (if we can't actually play the parts where you gather info for the anonymous source) it would show your protagonist carrying out all sorts of tasks for her in a mini montage lol.

The only reason I picked the mage option is because I wanna romance Cullen is a mage protagonist but I still wanna give my protagonist a depressing background LOL, otherwise I'd probably pick a rogue with a background like I described.

[Sifr]

I just hope the Inquisitor, whoever they are, have a rich backstory behind them.

Some of my favourite moments in Origins and DA2 were when the Warden would mention something about their past, or Hawke reminiscing about growing up in Lothering with Carver and Bethany.

[deuce985]

I'll say that I'm not the biggest Orlais fan. It honestly sounded like the most boring place in descriptions I've read. Seeing recent concept art though, it's selling me.

[brushyourteeth]

LolaLei wrote...


The only reason I picked the mage option is because I wanna romance Cullen is a mage protagonist but I still wanna give my protagonist a depressing background LOL, otherwise I'd probably pick a rogue with a background like I described.

Rogues are just my favorite.  Though I end up playing everything at least once!

[LolaLei]

To be honest, I expect us to be thrown into the Inquisitor role from the outset. Something like this:

After the inital artsy depiction about what happened in the previous game that occurs at the begin of every DA game (you know the ones I'm talking about), the games opening scene begins as the camera slowly pans out across Val Royeaux (or wherever) showing you breathtaking panoramic views of the city whilst the narrator describes the current situation in Thedas and the mage/templar situation etc. Finally the camera hones in on a massive crowd of people outside of the Grand Cathedral as the narrator finishes up describing that a gathering in the name of peace is being held within the cities walls and perhaps a little blurb about your protagonist and his/her background. The scene suddenly switches to a close up of the crowd as the Divine (or whoever) stands centre stage appealing to everyone about the need for compromise, the maker, mages, templars etc. You then catch a brief glimpse of your protagonist (either in the crowd or standing with the "important people"), just as the Divine/whoever reaches the climax of their super important speech the magical blast happens and chaos errupts, you witness your protagonist briefly fighting back demons (or whatever) and getting as many people to safety as possible, including saving the Divine's/whoever's life. *Que fade to black*

When the scene fades back in your protagonist have retreated to safety and everyone is arguing about what to do. The Divine/whoever interrupts and noticing that you are silent she/he asks you for your opinion, which is where you go into conversation mode, answer a bunch of questions, have your background mentioned in regards to how suitable you are and then get given the title of Inquisitor whilst Cassandra complains that she should be put in charge and Leliana says something mysterious and religious-y LOL. 

Modifié par LolaLei, 13 mars 2013 - 04:57 .

[brushyourteeth]

deuce985 wrote...

I'll say that I'm not the biggest Orlais fan. It honestly sounded like the most boring place in descriptions I've read. Seeing recent concept art though, it's selling me.

LOL. I couldn't agree more. Every time Danny (forgive me, Danny) is all "Oh, most of the game will definitely be in Orlais. *wink wink* *big cheesy smile*" I'm like uuugggghhhhh. Sick to death of Orlais and we've barely scratched the surface of it.

The only way it will work (as far as I can see) is if we divide our time between Orlais and other parts of Thedas (which seems likely given the ol' Pax video map) and the developers make Orlais intentionally obnoxious and skeezy.

Most of those Orlesians are already completely loathsome. Better to work it than try to switch things up.

[LolaLei]

deuce985 wrote...

I'll say that I'm not the biggest Orlais fan. It honestly sounded like the most boring place in descriptions I've read. Seeing recent concept art though, it's selling me.

Well, it'll probably be more interesting once we start infiltrating Orlesian balls, causing trouble and generally witnessing the place fall apart LOL! 

[LolaLei]

brushyourteeth wrote...

deuce985 wrote...

I'll say that I'm not the biggest Orlais fan. It honestly sounded like the most boring place in descriptions I've read. Seeing recent concept art though, it's selling me.

LOL. I couldn't agree more. Every time Danny (forgive me, Danny) is all "Oh, most of the game will definitely be in Orlais. *wink wink* *big cheesy smile*" I'm like uuugggghhhhh. Sick to death of Orlais and we've barely scratched the surface of it.

The only way it will work (as far as I can see) is if we divide our time between Orlais and other parts of Thedas (which seems likely given the ol' Pax video map) and the developers make Orlais intentionally obnoxious and skeezy.

Most of those Orlesians are already completely loathsome. Better to work it than try to switch things up.

I'm hoping that the Orlesian nobles will be as stuck up and pretentious as they've been described to be so far. I love the idea of running around the posh parts of Val Royeaux having people stick their nose up at my protagonist and her rag tag companions, only to later attend/infiltrate one of their parties and cause total mayhem. Plus, I love the idea of dodgy Orlesian's trying to seduce my protagonist only to have her knock them on their arse or something! 

[Jean]

I'm more curious to actually see Tevinter instead of hearing about how awful it apparently is.

The concept art also reminds me of the Worgen starting zone. Even down to the music
But it may just be me always picturing a sort of gothic view towards Tevinter.

Modifié par Batteries, 13 mars 2013 - 04:57 .

[brushyourteeth]

Okay... help me out here, because now I'm super curious.
Good Orlesians v. obnoxious Orlesians we've met so far?

Good Orlesians
Leliana (debatable, because also quite obnoxious)
Riordan
Aveline (raised in Ferelden)
Rhys
Evangeline

Obnoxious Orlesians
Marjolaine
Gascard DuPuis
Emile de Launcet
Dulci de Launcet
Guillaume de Launcet
Babette de Launcet
Fifi de Launcet
Hubert

... am I missing anyone?

Modifié par brushyourteeth, 13 mars 2013 - 04:58 .

[LolaLei]

I wonder if we really will get to travel around Thedas this time?

Has any of the devs specifically said that we'd be going to more places than just Orlais, or are people just presuming that we'll be traveling around based on that map that was shown at PAX last year?

[LolaLei]

brushyourteeth wrote...

Okay... help me out here, because now I'm super curious.
Good Orlesians v. obnoxious Orlesians we've met so far?

Good Orlesians
Leliana (debatable, because also quite obnoxious)
Riordan
Aveline (raised in Ferelden)
Rhys
Evangeline

Obnoxious Orlesians
Marjolaine
Gascard DuPuis
Emile de Launcet
Dulci de Launcet
Guillaume de Launcet
Babette de Launcet
Fifi de Launcet
Hubert

... am I missing anyone?

Is Hubert that jerk who makes Hawke go into partnership with him? Because he was a douch bag. Also, don't forget the guy who's wife was shagging Jethann before she died, he was also a jerk. I didn't like the sound of Adrian either. Lambert was a dick (was he Orlesian) and so was the guy they made Knight Captain after stripping Evangeline of her title. 

[LolaLei]

Oh! And all those jerks in the MotA dlc! Every single one of them were awful!

[LolaLei]

And Isolde! 

... Yeah, all the noble Orlesians are jerks. 

[brushyourteeth]

Good Orlesians
Leliana (debatable, because also quite obnoxious)
Riordan
Erlina
Liselle
Aveline (raised in Ferelden)
Stroud
Female Cheese Tray Servant from MotA
*Genevieve
*Evangeline
*Rhys
*Galyan
*Fiona

Obnoxious Orlesians
Marjolaine
Gascard DuPuis
Duke Prosper
Emile de Launcet
Dulci de Launcet
Guillaume de Launcet
Babette de Launcet
Fifi de Launcet
Ghyslain de Carrac
Hubert
Isolde
Baron Arlange
The Baroness
Lord Cyril
*Meghren
*Florian

Okay... amended list!!!

* denotes from DA sources besides games

Modifié par brushyourteeth, 13 mars 2013 - 05:24 .

[LolaLei]

Cassandra!

[CuriousArtemis]

To be fair, Guillaume de Launcet is actually a pretty decent guy. Not his fault his wife is screechy, his son is a moron with bad hair, and his daughters are Cinderella's evil stepsisters lol

[CuriousArtemis]

LolaLei wrote...

Cassandra!

I think she's from Navarre.