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#3901
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This had me laughing so hard, so much laughing lol

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More Cullen! yay

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Nug armor away!
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And more Cullen lol

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LOLA omg look at this

http://gamergirl32.d...n-age-302773276

LMAO

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http://gamergirl32.d...n-age-302755842

OMG Iam so on here alone tonight lol

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VampOrchid wrote...

More Cullen! yay

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hahaha! Apostate quota... :D I'd be like "If you let me go later, I can help you with your quota next week, too. :devil:

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LOLA omg look at this

http://gamergirl32.d...n-age-302773276

LMAO

OMG, that one really made quite the stir, didn't it. Outstanding!!

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Nug armor away!
http://gamergirl32.d...n-age-302774595

This one cracks me up much more than it should. I have jackface's calendar, and May has nugs in it. So, here I was one day, trying to explain my kid what a nug is... well... it's a like a bunny... crossed with a pig...

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VampOrchid wrote...

And more Cullen lol

http://gamergirl32.d...n-age-302774671

OH my stars. The images this one conjures... I think I'll choose... sinister. LOL

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A few pages back we were talking about evidence of rapey, wrongdoings in the Gallows and I thought I recalled a disturbing random banter you hear in the courtyard. Well, I think THIS is it, but it's also just about Ser Alrik again. :shudder:

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R2s Muse wrote...

A few pages back we were talking about evidence of rapey, wrongdoings in the Gallows and I thought I recalled a disturbing random banter you hear in the courtyard. Well, I think THIS is it, but it's also just about Ser Alrik again. :shudder:


Ich, creepy....:mellow:

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VampOrchid wrote...

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she's doing it again lol, this made my heart smile :D


Lol amen to that!

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R2s Muse wrote...

A few pages back we were talking about evidence of rapey, wrongdoings in the Gallows and I thought I recalled a disturbing random banter you hear in the courtyard. Well, I think THIS is it, but it's also just about Ser Alrik again. :shudder:


Those two made me sad, it's obvious he's making the women tranquil so he can rape them without fear of them reporting him. Sick ****, Cullen should have beaten him to within an inch of his life... Man that would have been hot. 

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R2s Muse wrote...

VampOrchid wrote...

And more Cullen lol

http://gamergirl32.d...n-age-302774671

OH my stars. The images this one conjures... I think I'll choose... sinister. LOL


He can give me a good smiting any day! :devil:

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LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

A few pages back we were talking about evidence of rapey, wrongdoings in the Gallows and I thought I recalled a disturbing random banter you hear in the courtyard. Well, I think THIS is it, but it's also just about Ser Alrik again. :shudder:


Those two made me sad, it's obvious he's making the women tranquil so he can rape them without fear of them reporting him. Sick ****, Cullen should have beaten him to within an inch of his life... Man that would have been hot. 

You know... someone needs to write this. And... not just because it would be kinda hot. Cullen as righteous god of vengeance would be... well... okay... hot. :?

What if... Cullen did this and then... leaked info about evil Ser Alrik to the mage underground? With the idea that they would "take care of" him, since he couldn't directly. And, that's why he's all laissez faire about not asking about how Hawke came by the personal effects one so recently murdered within their own walls. Hmm, I wonder if that would work as a story.

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LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

VampOrchid wrote...

And more Cullen lol

http://gamergirl32.d...n-age-302774671

OH my stars. The images this one conjures... I think I'll choose... sinister. LOL


He can give me a good smiting any day! :devil:

Amen, to that. :D

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So I was thinking, In DA:O Templar's take a vow of chasity which was retconned in DA2. Why do you think they retconned it? Was it purely for the sake of Aveline and her husband Wesley? Could it have been for the amusment of seeing Templars get their kicks in the Blooming Rose? Or something else?

I feel like there's a small chance that they retconned it because of Cullen, perhaps they hadn't expected the attention he would attract from the female mage origins, gave it some thought and retconned it, using Cullen in a bigger role in DA2 as a trial & error experiment to see how he's recieved, with the possibility of using him as a companion/LI in DA3.

,,, Then again, that seems like an awful lot of trouble to go to for one NPC. Meh, probably just my wishful thinking.

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R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

A few pages back we were talking about evidence of rapey, wrongdoings in the Gallows and I thought I recalled a disturbing random banter you hear in the courtyard. Well, I think THIS is it, but it's also just about Ser Alrik again. :shudder:


Those two made me sad, it's obvious he's making the women tranquil so he can rape them without fear of them reporting him. Sick ****, Cullen should have beaten him to within an inch of his life... Man that would have been hot. 

You know... someone needs to write this. And... not just because it would be kinda hot. Cullen as righteous god of vengeance would be... well... okay... hot. :?

What if... Cullen did this and then... leaked info about evil Ser Alrik to the mage underground? With the idea that they would "take care of" him, since he couldn't directly. And, that's why he's all laissez faire about not asking about how Hawke came by the personal effects one so recently murdered within their own walls. Hmm, I wonder if that would work as a story.


How cool would it be if he had been the one leaking information to the mage underground! Not because he was a secret mage sympathiser, but simply in order to remove "undesirables" without having to report it to Meredith, who, probably wouldn't do anything about it anyway. Chances are it was probably Ser Thrask who was helping the mage underground though.

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LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

A few pages back we were talking about evidence of rapey, wrongdoings in the Gallows and I thought I recalled a disturbing random banter you hear in the courtyard. Well, I think THIS is it, but it's also just about Ser Alrik again. :shudder:


Those two made me sad, it's obvious he's making the women tranquil so he can rape them without fear of them reporting him. Sick ****, Cullen should have beaten him to within an inch of his life... Man that would have been hot. 

You know... someone needs to write this. And... not just because it would be kinda hot. Cullen as righteous god of vengeance would be... well... okay... hot. :?

What if... Cullen did this and then... leaked info about evil Ser Alrik to the mage underground? With the idea that they would "take care of" him, since he couldn't directly. And, that's why he's all laissez faire about not asking about how Hawke came by the personal effects one so recently murdered within their own walls. Hmm, I wonder if that would work as a story.


How cool would it be if he had been the one leaking information to the mage underground! Not because he was a secret mage sympathiser, but simply in order to remove "undesirables" without having to report it to Meredith, who, probably wouldn't do anything about it anyway. Chances are it was probably Ser Thrask who was helping the mage underground though.

Yeah, you're probably right about Thrask. But... hmm, I could see Alrik being a special problem. Requiring a special, one-time solution. *sigh* Plot bunny! Somebody catch it!

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LolaLei wrote...

So I was thinking, In DA:O Templar's take a vow of chasity which was retconned in DA2. Why do you think they retconned it? Was it purely for the sake of Aveline and her husband Wesley? Could it have been for the amusment of seeing Templars get their kicks in the Blooming Rose? Or something else?

I feel like there's a small chance that they retconned it because of Cullen, perhaps they hadn't expected the attention he would attract from the female mage origins, gave it some thought and retconned it, using Cullen in a bigger role in DA2 as a trial & error experiment to see how he's recieved, with the possibility of using him as a companion/LI in DA3.

,,, Then again, that seems like an awful lot of trouble to go to for one NPC. Meh, probably just my wishful thinking.

If I had to guess, it would be because of Aveline. But... honestly, it didn't seem THAT important to me that Wesley was a templar. Seems he could have been anyone with a sense of duty, like a guard or a soldier. Maybe it was because he was a knight and that featured in Aveline's father issues, according to her short story (I think?).

With Cullen, and I hate to say it, I think it's almost more interesting if he has a vow of chastity in order to create conflict. Granted, they also did that with Sebastian, but the issue with Cullen predates the dear brother. Hmm, I dunno. Great question!

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R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

So I was thinking, In DA:O Templar's take a vow of chasity which was retconned in DA2. Why do you think they retconned it? Was it purely for the sake of Aveline and her husband Wesley? Could it have been for the amusment of seeing Templars get their kicks in the Blooming Rose? Or something else?

I feel like there's a small chance that they retconned it because of Cullen, perhaps they hadn't expected the attention he would attract from the female mage origins, gave it some thought and retconned it, using Cullen in a bigger role in DA2 as a trial & error experiment to see how he's recieved, with the possibility of using him as a companion/LI in DA3.

,,, Then again, that seems like an awful lot of trouble to go to for one NPC. Meh, probably just my wishful thinking.

If I had to guess, it would be because of Aveline. But... honestly, it didn't seem THAT important to me that Wesley was a templar. Seems he could have been anyone with a sense of duty, like a guard or a soldier. Maybe it was because he was a knight and that featured in Aveline's father issues, according to her short story (I think?).

With Cullen, and I hate to say it, I think it's almost more interesting if he has a vow of chastity in order to create conflict. Granted, they also did that with Sebastian, but the issue with Cullen predates the dear brother. Hmm, I dunno. Great question!


Yeah, they could have made Aveline's husband any sort of regimented type really. He wasn't around long enough to make any impact worthy of retconning the Templar's opportunity to get laid LOL.

I guess with Cullen, he's probably still sworn himself to celibacy (maybe because he thinks if he gets involved with a woman then it would take away his sense of duty since she would become the most important thing in his life, rather than his faith and oath to the Order... presumably the feelings he had for Amell serves as a reminder to him about just how infatuated he becomes when in love.)

Maybe they just retconned it on the off chance that they do ever decide to have a full Templar companion. I'd like to think Cullen would be first choice in that regards simply because he is the most developed.

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VampOrchid wrote...

LOLA omg look at this

http://gamergirl32.d...n-age-302773276

LMAO


OMG!

Hahaha, I think sending that into Dragon Age confessions was the best idea I've ever had!

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LolaLei wrote...

So I was thinking, In DA:O Templar's take a vow of chasity which was retconned in DA2. Why do you think they retconned it? Was it purely for the sake of Aveline and her husband Wesley? Could it have been for the amusment of seeing Templars get their kicks in the Blooming Rose? Or something else?

I feel like there's a small chance that they retconned it because of Cullen, perhaps they hadn't expected the attention he would attract from the female mage origins, gave it some thought and retconned it, using Cullen in a bigger role in DA2 as a trial & error experiment to see how he's recieved, with the possibility of using him as a companion/LI in DA3.

,,, Then again, that seems like an awful lot of trouble to go to for one NPC. Meh, probably just my wishful thinking.


I don't remember anyting in DA:O saying that templars take a vow of chastity. Also, David Gaider has addressed this issue on another thread.  Templars assigned to remote Circle Towers are going to have very limited ability to carry on an above-the-board sexual relationship and/or marriage purely because of where they are stationed. 


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Templars do not take vows of chastity.

Chantry priests are considered "married" to the Maker-- though it's not an actual marriage, just a spiritual one-- and thus are indeed celibate.

For templars, the situation is not quite the same. Their duties require them to be dedicated to their duties-- they're going to live in a Circle of Magi (which does not have room for spouses and families) or a chantry, or otherwise be pre-occupied. Marriage is impractical, and the Chantry thus discourages such marriages as having dependants introduces complications that templars can do without (as well as a potential means of leverage).

That said, the Chantry does occasionally give permission for templars to marry, provided the spouse has their own means of support. This is often the case when the spouse owns land or a title. Even so, considering the spouse wouldn't be able to see the templar often, it's not going to happen frequently. Before anyone asks, the Chantry also discourages templars from marrying each other even more so-- that's considered fraternization within the ranks (the templars are run as a military order, remember, and possess the same discipline).

Mages within the Circle are permitted to marry, but it's impractical with outsiders and they also must get permission from the Chantry (so it might be considered a reward for good behavior). Even so, the culture within the typical Circle of Magi tends to make mages unwilling to marry. The policy on fraternization will depend on the individual Circle-- some forbid it, while others do not, though in either case it still occurs. Considering mages live outside normal culture, they also consider themselves free of cultural conventions (especially those who were raised in a Circle from a young age) and thus tend to be quite liberal in their views.

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