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*Sigh* ok. Fine. I'll post something sensible.

Something I desperately missed when playing DA2 was the abillity to simply prattle on with our companions about mundane, every day stuff. In DA:O the Warden could squee over shoes with Leliana, or ask her for tales. Seeing Oghren get drunk and pass out in camp was always hilarious. Having Sten challenge the Warden's every move, whilst Wynne took a more than passing interest in my Warden's thoughts, which was always interesting. 

I really missed that aspect of the game, since I felt that it really brought home just how much all their lives had changed since the Blight hit. It was kinda like they were trying to hold on to a sense of normality amidst utter carnage. I know it was kinda different in DA2 since it was mostly Hawke inadvertently getting dragged into every issue going on in Kirkwall, but it would've been nice to still have that dynamic with the companions.

I'm hope they bring those sorts of interactions back in DA3, if that leaked survey is anything to go by then the situation in Thedas is going to be grave indeed. It needs those extra little touches just to drive home how much life has changed for the protagonist 'n' co.


I would have loved if we got to take part in those "game nights/card games" that Varric and the others always talked about, just for fun.


Yeah, recieve a message from Bodahn telling Hawke to meet the other in the Hanged Man for drinks and cards, which would cue a little cutscene of them all relaxing together. That would've been cute.

My theory is they'll take a leaf out of ME3's book and have the companions each hang out in their own separate rooms in the castle, then every now and then we'd go to check in on them and they'd be chatting to one of the other companions or training out in the courtyard etc.

I hope they also give us a chance to hang out with or interact with the companions sometimes between quests, just to do something light hearted occasionally.


Me to, sometimes in DA2 it felt like our guys were being funny...when it was a bit innappropriate...

Hawke: Mother!!!!

Varric: Wow, that mage must be funny, he's left her in stiches *slaps knee*

Hawke: Please don't leave me!

Isabela: Geez, she really needed a man, she such a stiff.
:blink:Geez why am I so macabre tonight/today?:blink:


Lol, yeah it kinda killed the scene... moreso since my bloody sarcastic Hawke decided to crack a joke too. I was like DUDE! Your mother is dying, now is not the time for jokes! 

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I also believe Lola needs a hug lol. I honestly dunno what to say. I think I'd be like.

"Damn dude, have you ever been happy?"


Aw, c'mon. It wasn't that bad an idea! :lol:


It wasn't a bad idea at all, that is just how I'd feel about him, like I'd expect this.

Protagonist: So do you like pets?

Cullen: I love them, I had one as a boy. He was a little Mabari I named Jiffy

Protagonist: Aww, must have been great.

Cullen: It was....until my little brother flayed him alive and fed me the bits....

Protagonist: :sick::sick::sick::sick::sick::sick::sick::sick::sick::sick::sick::sick::sick::sick:


LMFAO! :lol::lol::lol:

We could totally go somewhere with this! Parody Knight Captain Cullen comic or Tumblr, something like that! :lol:


Protagonist: Hey Cullen, you're a nice guy, you must of had a lot of friends back in the circle

Cullen: Oh yes, quite a few actually. Some mages to.

Protagonist: :) Oh thats nice, do you keep in touch.

Cullen: I like to think so...

Protagonist: What do you mean?

Cullen: Well it's hard considering the demons used Steve's innards to whip James with as they violated Susan with a collar bone....

Protagonist: :?:mellow::blink:


"The ballad of Cullen" :lol:

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@Lola, the sad part about the scene is that it was SO epic and funny. One of my favorite lines.

I think it was something along the lines of, "Sorry to interrupt, but where's my mother!"

@Lola part 2: I think he'd sort of talk about it casually. Like tell you the gory details of Uldred's early ebil over tea and biscuits.

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@Lola, the sad part about the scene is that it was SO epic and funny. One of my favorite lines.

I think it was something along the lines of, "Sorry to interrupt, but where's my mother!"

@Lola part 2: I think he'd sort of talk about it casually. Like tell you the gory details of Uldred's early ebil over tea and biscuits.


LOL, he's been through so much that nothing shocks or bothers him anymore! :lol:

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You guys do realise that if Cullen is a companion/LI he'd be one of the last to be reveal, since he's not new, so he wouldn't come as a surprise lol.

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You guys do realise that if Cullen is a companion/LI he'd be one of the last to be reveal, since he's not new, so he wouldn't come as a surprise lol.


Anders and Merrill were so I wouldn't be surprised. I expect Cassandra and whoever shows up in the CGI trailer to be one of the first.

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Danny Boy 7 wrote...

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You guys do realise that if Cullen is a companion/LI he'd be one of the last to be reveal, since he's not new, so he wouldn't come as a surprise lol.


Anders and Merrill were so I wouldn't be surprised. I expect Cassandra and whoever shows up in the CGI trailer to be one of the first.


Huh? Anders and Merrill were revealed last, or first?

I'd expect Cassandra to be revealed last too... although Isabela was in the trailer and she was already well know, mind you, she did look completely different.

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LolaLei wrote...

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LolaLei wrote...

You guys do realise that if Cullen is a companion/LI he'd be one of the last to be reveal, since he's not new, so he wouldn't come as a surprise lol.


Anders and Merrill were so I wouldn't be surprised. I expect Cassandra and whoever shows up in the CGI trailer to be one of the first.


Huh? Anders and Merrill were revealed last, or first?

I'd expect Cassandra to be revealed last too... although Isabela was in the trailer and she was already well know, mind you, she did look completely different.


They were towards the end. I think all of the new characters sans Isabela showed up before Anders, Merrill and Sebastian. Cassandra would be first or second in my opinion.

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Danny Boy 7 wrote...

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You guys do realise that if Cullen is a companion/LI he'd be one of the last to be reveal, since he's not new, so he wouldn't come as a surprise lol.


Anders and Merrill were so I wouldn't be surprised. I expect Cassandra and whoever shows up in the CGI trailer to be one of the first.


Huh? Anders and Merrill were revealed last, or first?

I'd expect Cassandra to be revealed last too... although Isabela was in the trailer and she was already well know, mind you, she did look completely different.


They were towards the end. I think all of the new characters sans Isabela showed up before Anders, Merrill and Sebastian. Cassandra would be first or second in my opinion.


I guess it depends how they'd want to play it, really.

On the one hand, revealing a couple of new companions first would generate plenty of speculation, thus saving the likes of Cullen and Cassandra until last and keeping their fans anticipating and chomping at the bit. However, on the other hand, if they revealed Cullen and Cassandra first (if they're even companions) then it would certainly drum up A LOT of attention... amongst other things. <_< 

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Man, can Cullen catch a break? I have the horrible feeling we'll keep hearing these awful childhood stories;

Cullen: We can't eat before we're all here!
PC: Cullen?!
Cullen: Sorry, it's just... my last family dinner you see.
PC: Tell me about it
Cullen: Well, I was fourteen and my friend Erick, son of the local Wheelwright came over for supper. He'd brought over this dish, you see, chilli, he called it. Never had anything so lovely before. Anyway, I was so hungry that I started eating before my parents arrived at the table.
PC: Were they cross?
Cullen: I never really found out. Halfway through the meal, Erick revealed that he'd killed my parents and cooked them in the pot.
PC: By the Maker!
Cullen: Yes, that was my reaction too. I believe I fainted. I don't know what happened next, by the Templars apparently arrived and killed Erick. He was overtaken by a Hunger Demon, you see?
PC: And that's how you joined the Order?
Cullen: Pretty much. Still, could have been worse?
PC: How could it have been worse?
Cullen: The chilli could have had carrots in it!
PC: *laughs* I knew you were fib-
Cullen: *Darkly* No, I wasn't. He really made me eat my parents!
PC: *Disturbed* Ok... erm... I have to... erm... I'll be right back...

*Runs outside*

PC: Andraste's holy flaming granny-pants!

Alas, tis but a tragic tale of Ser Cullen of the Southern Parks.

:whistle:

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LMAO! I've created a monster with this one... haven't I!

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Part of the charm of Cullen is how he really should have been rendered crazy long ago.

If we get feastday gifts in DA3, his would be a teddy bear named "Iron Woobie".

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Man, can Cullen catch a break? I have the horrible feeling we'll keep hearing these awful childhood stories;

Cullen: We can't eat before we're all here!
PC: Cullen?!
Cullen: Sorry, it's just... my last family dinner you see.
PC: Tell me about it
Cullen: Well, I was fourteen and my friend Erick, son of the local Wheelwright came over for supper. He'd brought over this dish, you see, chilli, he called it. Never had anything so lovely before. Anyway, I was so hungry that I started eating before my parents arrived at the table.
PC: Were they cross?
Cullen: I never really found out. Halfway through the meal, Erick revealed that he'd killed my parents and cooked them in the pot.
PC: By the Maker!
Cullen: Yes, that was my reaction too. I believe I fainted. I don't know what happened next, by the Templars apparently arrived and killed Erick. He was overtaken by a Hunger Demon, you see?
PC: And that's how you joined the Order?
Cullen: Pretty much. Still, could have been worse?
PC: How could it have been worse?
Cullen: The chilli could have had carrots in it!
PC: *laughs* I knew you were fib-
Cullen: *Darkly* No, I wasn't. He really made me eat my parents!
PC: *Disturbed* Ok... erm... I have to... erm... I'll be right back...

*Runs outside*

PC: Andraste's holy flaming granny-pants!

Alas, tis but a tragic tale of Ser Cullen of the Southern Parks.

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I see what you did there.

This needs to be a thing though. OOH a series called, "Tea time with Cullen"

@Lola: Well I imagine Cullen will be among the last because I expect he'll be optional ala Fenris, but Cassandra I expect to be VERY plot relevant so if she doesn't show up in the trailer I expect she'll be second or third, if she does than I expect she'll be among the first characters revealed, just because some fans will be like, omg who is that awesome chick in the black armor ?!?! I dunno who appeared first though. Whether it was Isabela, Varric or Aveline since I wasn't around THAT early. I came around Witch Hunt and then heard about DA2.

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@Lola: Well I imagine Cullen will be among the last because I expect he'll be optional ala Fenris, but Cassandra I expect to be VERY plot relevant so if she doesn't show up in the trailer I expect she'll be second or third, if she does than I expect she'll be among the first characters revealed, just because some fans will be like, omg who is that awesome chick in the black armor ?!?! I dunno who appeared first though. Whether it was Isabela, Varric or Aveline since I wasn't around THAT early. I came around Witch Hunt and then heard about DA2.


Possibly, although it really depends what the games focus is gonna be about. In theory both Cassandra and Cullen would make relevant plot-heavy companions, but if the game is about giant magical blasts from "something" then who knows which companion would be plot-relevant lol.

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Something just occured to me.

In DA:O the Ferelden Circle wasn't painted in a terrible light. Although it was clear that it wasn't a fantastic place to be the mages and Templars there were generally portrayed equally in terms of "good" vs "bad" on both sides. However, in DA2 it was very much mage orientated, during which we got to experience just how bad life was for the mages in Kirkwall when the Templars are given too much power and authority, thus making the majority of players ympathise greatly for the poor mages plight.

So, now I'm wondering, since DA3 will likely have us travel around Thedas a bit, there's a good chance that we'll get to visit Tervinter, a place where mages are free to do as they please to the extreme and the Templars are pretty much there "for show". Perhaps this time round we'll get to experience just how bad life can be for Templars when mages are given too much power? 

As we know, nothing is meant to be strictly black or white in the DA universe, so I personally feel that it would be interesting to see the flip side of the coin and give us a greater perspective of the potential fate(s) of Thedas if a compromise or balance can't be struck up.

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LolaLei wrote...

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@Lola: Well I imagine Cullen will be among the last because I expect he'll be optional ala Fenris, but Cassandra I expect to be VERY plot relevant so if she doesn't show up in the trailer I expect she'll be second or third, if she does than I expect she'll be among the first characters revealed, just because some fans will be like, omg who is that awesome chick in the black armor ?!?! I dunno who appeared first though. Whether it was Isabela, Varric or Aveline since I wasn't around THAT early. I came around Witch Hunt and then heard about DA2.


Possibly, although it really depends what the games focus is gonna be about. In theory both Cassandra and Cullen would make relevant plot-heavy companions, but if the game is about giant magical blasts from "something" then who know which companion would be plot-relevant lol.


Oh definetily I just thought it was a given with her since even before we knew anything about DA3 we knew she might play a part in it, but you're right I'm getting ahead of myself :D

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Danny Boy 7 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

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@Lola: Well I imagine Cullen will be among the last because I expect he'll be optional ala Fenris, but Cassandra I expect to be VERY plot relevant so if she doesn't show up in the trailer I expect she'll be second or third, if she does than I expect she'll be among the first characters revealed, just because some fans will be like, omg who is that awesome chick in the black armor ?!?! I dunno who appeared first though. Whether it was Isabela, Varric or Aveline since I wasn't around THAT early. I came around Witch Hunt and then heard about DA2.


Possibly, although it really depends what the games focus is gonna be about. In theory both Cassandra and Cullen would make relevant plot-heavy companions, but if the game is about giant magical blasts from "something" then who know which companion would be plot-relevant lol.


Oh definetily I just thought it was a given with her since even before we knew anything about DA3 we knew she might play a part in it, but you're right I'm getting ahead of myself :D


Cassandra is another character that I'm unsure of whether or not we'll actually get as a companion.

I mean, she does seem like an obvious choice (just like Cullen) BUT is it "too obvious"? The fact that they showed us concept art of her in DA3 companion armor as an example seems very spoilerish, especially since they've told us next to nothing about the game itself. Then there's the DotS dvd, it seemed to be showcasing her talents/backstory as an obvious companion set up, but she's very experienced. Why would she allow herself to be led by some noob protagonist when she could get the job done herself? Which makes me wonder if maybe we'll be taking orders from her instead via an npc role.

Knowing our luck we won't be given Cassandra or Cullen as companions... which is typical as they're the two characters we're most interesting in, lol.

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LolaLei wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

@Lola: Well I imagine Cullen will be among the last because I expect he'll be optional ala Fenris, but Cassandra I expect to be VERY plot relevant so if she doesn't show up in the trailer I expect she'll be second or third, if she does than I expect she'll be among the first characters revealed, just because some fans will be like, omg who is that awesome chick in the black armor ?!?! I dunno who appeared first though. Whether it was Isabela, Varric or Aveline since I wasn't around THAT early. I came around Witch Hunt and then heard about DA2.


Possibly, although it really depends what the games focus is gonna be about. In theory both Cassandra and Cullen would make relevant plot-heavy companions, but if the game is about giant magical blasts from "something" then who know which companion would be plot-relevant lol.


Oh definetily I just thought it was a given with her since even before we knew anything about DA3 we knew she might play a part in it, but you're right I'm getting ahead of myself :D


Cassandra is another character that I'm unsure of whether or not we'll actually get as a companion.

I mean, she does seem like an obvious choice (just like Cullen) BUT is it "too obvious"? The fact that they showed us concept art of her in DA3 companion armor as an example seems very spoilerish, especially since they've told us next to nothing about the game itself. Then there's the DotS dvd, it seems like a showcase of her talents/backstory and an obvious companion set up, but she's very experienced. Why would she allow herself to be led by some noob protagonist when she could get the job done herself? Which makes me wonder if maybe we'll be taking orders from her instead via an npc role.

Knowing our luck we won't be given Cassandra or Cullen as companions... which is typical as they're the two characters we're most interesting in, lol.


If she's not a companion she'll be important for sure. Otherwise her being introduced and recieving all this attention would seem a little... empty? She's a really interesting character, so I don't feel they'll give her a small part in DA3

...At the same time... will they make her a companion when there's a whole movie that showcases her background and character? It could feel like they're just going over the same stuff again. I know not everyone has seen the movie, but still...

It could go either way, really. I would really like her to be a companion, though.

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If she's not a companion she'll be important for sure. Otherwise her being introduced and recieving all this attention would seem a little... empty? She's a really interesting character, so I don't feel they'll give her a small part in DA3

...At the same time... will they make her a companion when there's a whole movie that showcases her background and character? It could feel like they're just going over the same stuff again. I know not everyone has seen the movie, but still...

It could go either way, really. I would really like her to be a companion, though.



Oh, she'll definitely be important. No doubt about it!

But as you said, they showcased her background and character in DotS, surely that would be something they'd want to do in DA3 if she was a companion? Granted, we had companions in DA2 that were already characters or companions in DA:O and DA:A, but their backstory and history was never explored as deeply as Cassandra's was. There can't really be much else to explore with her, unless the devs plan to make her even more important than Alistair was in DA:O, which is something Gaider said he didn't want to do again because it took too much attention away from the player/protagonist.

I'd like her as a companion too, but it just seems odd that they'd do something so majorly full of spoilers like that to a possible companion, which makes me wonder if maybe she isn't at all.

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Something just occured to me.

In DA:O the Ferelden Circle wasn't painted in a terrible light. Although it was clear that it wasn't a fantastic place to be the mages and Templars there were generally portrayed equally in terms of "good" vs "bad" on both sides. However, in DA2 it was very much mage orientated, during which we got to experience just how bad life was for the mages in Kirkwall when the Templars are given too much power and authority, thus making the majority of players ympathise greatly for the poor mages plight.

So, now I'm wondering, since DA3 will likely have us travel around Thedas a bit, there's a good chance that we'll get to visit Tervinter, a place where mages are free to do as they please to the extreme and the Templars are pretty much there "for show". Perhaps this time round we'll get to experience just how bad life can be for Templars when mages are given too much power? 

As we know, nothing is meant to be strictly black or white in the DA universe, so I personally feel that it would be interesting to see the flip side of the coin and give us a greater perspective of the potential fate(s) of Thedas if a compromise or balance can't be struck up.


I think that's interesting, to see what it's like with mages in power, it shows how bad things could get. I mean I expect a post-Fall of Rome thing in Tevinter. It's well past it's prime, but the remnants of the old Imperium is strongest in Minrathous, kind of the center of mage opulence,

I agree about the leaning towards mages in DA2, though I have to say that I can't for the life of me understand why since around every corner a Blood Mage popped up, know what I mean? It's weird that it leaned so heavily towards one side. I'd love to actually explore some pro-templar actions though know what I mean? 

I mean we saw Anders healing people in his clinic but whenever someone (who was pro-templar) tried to help (Looking at you Thrask) they....umm sort of failed horribly (Looking at you Grace).

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LolaLei wrote...

Something just occured to me.

In DA:O the Ferelden Circle wasn't painted in a terrible light. Although it was clear that it wasn't a fantastic place to be the mages and Templars there were generally portrayed equally in terms of "good" vs "bad" on both sides. However, in DA2 it was very much mage orientated, during which we got to experience just how bad life was for the mages in Kirkwall when the Templars are given too much power and authority, thus making the majority of players ympathise greatly for the poor mages plight.

So, now I'm wondering, since DA3 will likely have us travel around Thedas a bit, there's a good chance that we'll get to visit Tervinter, a place where mages are free to do as they please to the extreme and the Templars are pretty much there "for show". Perhaps this time round we'll get to experience just how bad life can be for Templars when mages are given too much power? 

As we know, nothing is meant to be strictly black or white in the DA universe, so I personally feel that it would be interesting to see the flip side of the coin and give us a greater perspective of the potential fate(s) of Thedas if a compromise or balance can't be struck up.


I think that's interesting, to see what it's like with mages in power, it shows how bad things could get. I mean I expect a post-Fall of Rome thing in Tevinter. It's well past it's prime, but the remnants of the old Imperium is strongest in Minrathous, kind of the center of mage opulence,

I agree about the leaning towards mages in DA2, though I have to say that I can't for the life of me understand why since around every corner a Blood Mage popped up, know what I mean? It's weird that it leaned so heavily towards one side. I'd love to actually explore some pro-templar actions though know what I mean? 

I mean we saw Anders healing people in his clinic but whenever someone (who was pro-templar) tried to help (Looking at you Thrask) they....umm sort of failed horribly (Looking at you Grace).


Precisely! So I'm thinking that maybe that was the plan all along, to show us different extremes of the same problem with each game.

DA3 was originally supposed to be DA2, so presumably, what we now know as DA2 (with Hawke's story) purposely went into great detail about the Mage/Templar thing as a plot set up and decided to show the mages plight first, so that DA3 can show us the Templars plight. 

I'm pretty sure the Tervinter mages won't be rebelling since they have no need, so I can't imagine their Templars have gone very far... unless they felt brave and decided to join Lamberts rebellion because they'd had enough of being used for blood magic sacrifices? :lol:

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If she's not a companion she'll be important for sure. Otherwise her being introduced and recieving all this attention would seem a little... empty? She's a really interesting character, so I don't feel they'll give her a small part in DA3

...At the same time... will they make her a companion when there's a whole movie that showcases her background and character? It could feel like they're just going over the same stuff again. I know not everyone has seen the movie, but still...

It could go either way, really. I would really like her to be a companion, though.



Oh, she'll definitely be important. No doubt about it!

But as you said, they showcased her background and character in DotS, surely that would be something they'd want to do in DA3 if she was a companion? Granted, we had companions in DA2 that were already characters or companions in DA:O and DA:A, but their backstory and history was never explored as deeply as Cassandra's was. There can't really be much else to explore with her, unless the devs plan to make her even more important than Alistair was in DA:O, which is something Gaider said he didn't want to do again because it took too much attention away from the player/protagonist.

I'd like her as a companion too, but it just seems odd that they'd do something so majorly full of spoilers like that to a possible companion, which makes me wonder if maybe she isn't at all.


Well...Anders technically had very little to say about his background (in game I mean, not that we thorougly explored it in Awakening), but we could potentially hear more about her from her time as a recruit/before the movies or even before when her brother died. She could be a bit more focused on her task ala Merrill and make mentions of her past sparingly.

I agree though that until it's announced it's still in the air. I mean your right, it's a bit TOO obvious and if we return to
a more...general conversation style like DA:O learning about their backgrounds, their aspirations, etc than she might not make it.

Other than that I can only imagine they showed her because she is so popular and because it would generate hype about the game, ala comments like, "Somewhere....French". She could also be the flag ship companion like Morrigan and Isabela was in their games.

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Danny Boy 7 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Dirgegun wrote...

If she's not a companion she'll be important for sure. Otherwise her being introduced and recieving all this attention would seem a little... empty? She's a really interesting character, so I don't feel they'll give her a small part in DA3

...At the same time... will they make her a companion when there's a whole movie that showcases her background and character? It could feel like they're just going over the same stuff again. I know not everyone has seen the movie, but still...

It could go either way, really. I would really like her to be a companion, though.



Oh, she'll definitely be important. No doubt about it!

But as you said, they showcased her background and character in DotS, surely that would be something they'd want to do in DA3 if she was a companion? Granted, we had companions in DA2 that were already characters or companions in DA:O and DA:A, but their backstory and history was never explored as deeply as Cassandra's was. There can't really be much else to explore with her, unless the devs plan to make her even more important than Alistair was in DA:O, which is something Gaider said he didn't want to do again because it took too much attention away from the player/protagonist.

I'd like her as a companion too, but it just seems odd that they'd do something so majorly full of spoilers like that to a possible companion, which makes me wonder if maybe she isn't at all.


Well...Anders technically had very little to say about his background (in game I mean, not that we thorougly explored it in Awakening), but we could potentially hear more about her from her time as a recruit/before the movies or even before when her brother died. She could be a bit more focused on her task ala Merrill and make mentions of her past sparingly.

I agree though that until it's announced it's still in the air. I mean your right, it's a bit TOO obvious and if we return to
a more...general conversation style like DA:O learning about their backgrounds, their aspirations, etc than she might not make it.

Other than that I can only imagine they showed her because she is so popular and because it would generate hype about the game, ala comments like, "Somewhere....French". She could also be the flag ship companion like Morrigan and Isabela was in their games.


He didn't really talk much about his past in Awakening either, he mentioned escaping the circle and how it was crap being cooped up in there, but everything else was pretty much ****** 'n' arse (I miss Awakening Anders). Mind you, none of the DA2 characters went into much detail about their pasts when you compare it to the DA:O companions lol. 

If Cassandra is a companion then it kinds sucks that the surprise has been ruined. It just strikes me as odd that (if she is) they pretty much told us all the really important/interesting bits about her in DotS, yet they won't even give us a rough estimation of when they plan to do a reveal in Spring (if it's gonna happen in Spring at all).

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LolaLei wrote...

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Something just occured to me.

In DA:O the Ferelden Circle wasn't painted in a terrible light. Although it was clear that it wasn't a fantastic place to be the mages and Templars there were generally portrayed equally in terms of "good" vs "bad" on both sides. However, in DA2 it was very much mage orientated, during which we got to experience just how bad life was for the mages in Kirkwall when the Templars are given too much power and authority, thus making the majority of players ympathise greatly for the poor mages plight.

So, now I'm wondering, since DA3 will likely have us travel around Thedas a bit, there's a good chance that we'll get to visit Tervinter, a place where mages are free to do as they please to the extreme and the Templars are pretty much there "for show". Perhaps this time round we'll get to experience just how bad life can be for Templars when mages are given too much power? 

As we know, nothing is meant to be strictly black or white in the DA universe, so I personally feel that it would be interesting to see the flip side of the coin and give us a greater perspective of the potential fate(s) of Thedas if a compromise or balance can't be struck up.


I think that's interesting, to see what it's like with mages in power, it shows how bad things could get. I mean I expect a post-Fall of Rome thing in Tevinter. It's well past it's prime, but the remnants of the old Imperium is strongest in Minrathous, kind of the center of mage opulence,

I agree about the leaning towards mages in DA2, though I have to say that I can't for the life of me understand why since around every corner a Blood Mage popped up, know what I mean? It's weird that it leaned so heavily towards one side. I'd love to actually explore some pro-templar actions though know what I mean? 

I mean we saw Anders healing people in his clinic but whenever someone (who was pro-templar) tried to help (Looking at you Thrask) they....umm sort of failed horribly (Looking at you Grace).


Precisely! So I'm thinking that maybe that was the plan all along, to show us different extremes of the same problem with each game.

DA3 was originally supposed to be DA2, so presumably, what we now know as DA2 (with Hawke's story) purposely went into great detail about the Mage/Templar thing as a plot set up and decided to show the mages plight first, so that DA3 can show us the Templars plight. 

I'm pretty sure the Tervinter mages won't be rebelling since they have no need, so I can't imagine their Templars have gone very far... unless they felt brave and decided to join Lamberts rebellion because they'd had enough of being used for blood magic sacrifices? :lol:


I'm still wondering whether or not we'll go there though, since as you said they might not even be interested in M/T War. They might be involved like they've been in the past where there are a couple of them popping in the story either as slavers, a companion or just to represent more of the ebil mages. 

I know I'm a bit biased when it comes to this discussion, but I'd imagine that (if Orlais isn't the only setting :crying:) we'd hear more from Nevarra, Antiva, the Free Marches and such rather than "The North" because the Qunari aren't a big part of this game (I think MLaidlaw mentioned that at the Edmonton Expo) and wait for this, I don't think the Tevinters care as much about the M/T War *dodges tomatoes*

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You're probably right, I'd just like to see what the Templars plight is like lol. I guess Cullen: "man of steal" could easily fill that role! :lol:

A few people in the DA3 forum are talking about how they think the "big bad" in DA3 will be the Qunari vs Tervinter or something. To be honest, that sound boring as sh!t.