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[meanieweenie]

That darn survey leak business caused more harm than good, I think. Anyway, I don't mind being an Inquisitor so long as I'm given a good reason for it being so. I trust it'll all make sense.

[LolaLei]

meanieweenie wrote...

That darn survey leak business caused more harm than good, I think. Anyway, I don't mind being an Inquisitor so long as I'm given a good reason for it being so. I trust it'll all make sense.

Yeah, there's only so far we can suspend belief. 

I just wonder why they've decided to call this new group "the Inquisition" if it's not associated with the old Inquisition. Mark Darrah and a couple of other devs said that the protagonist won't be forced to align with the Chantry or the Templars, or anything that we didn't want to be, but if the survey leak is to be believed then "when a desperate gathering in the name of peace becomes the epicenter of a magical blast that decimates the Chantry's leadership"  then it kinda indicates that the gathering itself was being held by/with Chantry folk/the Divine heavily involved. So surely, if we DID want to be pro-Templar or pro-mage then why would we be at this peace gathering in the first place? Which makes it sound like we'll be starting out as "pro-peace".

... Unless our protagonist isn't at this peace gathering at all and we later get called in ( for whatever reason) to become the Inquisitor? Which has just given me an idea for the opening of the game that would proper sh!t us up! 

[Reznore57]

Am i the only one not bothered by the Inquisition?

I don't look at it like a religious "grrr let's burn the heretic " thing.
In my mind it's more like being a detective looking for the truth , like a seeker but way cooler because you don't police templars and you're not bound to the chantry.

I must be crazy because I'm excited , like Oooh mysteries to solve ! Hidden knowledge!Great the chantry/grey warden/whatever were lying about this!
Yes , I'm probably crazy.

[CuriousArtemis]

On a personal level I'm not too thrilled with the concept of the Inquisition; it's just a loaded word, and I'm anti-religion and definitely not a fan of the religion that was associated with the real life Inquisition lol But even in the world of Thedas, I do not like the Chantry (again, religion), and would prefer to write/play a character who is not at all associated with that organization.

However, it IS my character and not ME, so it's not like it'll kill me to write a pro-Chantry character. I can fall in love with any character, and I can understand why a character would be aligned one way or another. (I don't hate Sebastian, for example.)

I think what bothers me most about the idea of being "part" of this Inquisition is that it implies our character will be a person of power/influence right off the bat, which I don't like. I much prefer playing the young and confused Gray Warden, the last of his/her kind (+Alistair), or the young Hawke, a nobody trying to make his way through Kirkwall... ya know?

But that's all pointless to fuss about at this point b/c we know virtually nothing lol

[littlenikki]

I don't really mind the Inquisition, or Inquisitor title either Reznore, but I can see why some people are put off by it. (MMG pretty much nails it right on the head in her post)

So, quick off topic question for you all. I'm currently doing a human noble origin playthrough of DA: Origins, and I've noticed that each time I visit one of the key locations (Circle Tower, Orzammar, Dalish Camp, etc) I always get the urge to stop playing immediately, and go create another character that originates from that origin.

Any of you guys and gals have that same issue? It's something that really makes me sad that it seems like we wont be able to play through the story of origin for our characters in the next game (ah there we go, had to loop it around to make it somewhat on topic again)

[LolaLei]

So, that idea I mentioned in my post above. Basically I had this feeling that the following situation would be something the writers/devs would do to troll us:

The game opens at the peace gathering, except our protagonist isn't there because the purpose of this scene is just to show us what led us to take up the Inquisitors mantle. The Divine is giving her grand speech to the masses, Cassandra and Leliana can be seen in the background watching her closely, either side of the Divine. Cullen and a small group of Divine-loyal Templars can be seen pushing their way through the crowd to get near the front, they've come to show their support to the Divine. Suddenly the magical blast hits, sh!t gets real and Cassandra 'n' Leliana can be seen in slow-mo desperately try to reach the Divine before she gets herself killed, the look on the Divines face seems almost serene, as though she knew her days were numbered. The camera switches to Cullen (still in slow-mo) who's facial expression can be seen changing to a look of sheer horror as it dawns on him what's happening, the people in the crowd also have the same mirrored expressions on their faces.

Suddenly the camera pans out as the blast hits and the bulk of crowd get sent flying, whilst others clamber over each other trying to escape, trampling people who get in the way. The camera pans out further to over the area as you see the destruction of the peace gathering, then switches to a close up of the dead bodies and badly injured people. *Fade to black*

The scene is left on a cliff hanger. We, as the player, don't know if Cullen, Cassandra, Leliana or Divine have survived. A new scene begins in which we take over as our protagonist going about his/her daily life around the time that he/she ends up being summoned into the Inquisition (however that happens), this will serve as the tutorial to allow us to learn the controls etc.

Eventually we arrive at the Grand Cathedral, and after a lengthy scene/discussion about why we're being dragged into this mess and whether or not the Divine is alive, Cassandra makes her dramatic appearance, followed shortly after by Leliana. We know now that they are both alive and well. But what of Cullen? The player automatically presumes that he's dead, since Cassandra/Leliana/whoever tells us that very few people survived the blast. *haters rejoice and we cry into a tub of ice-cream*

Soooo we carry on with the game, start recruiting our companions until eventually we partake in (what turns out to be) a companion recruitment quest when suddenly a cutscene triggers, the camera pans up from the characters feet as he walks over until we reach his face and discover that it's Cullen! *Haters b!tch about it on the BSN and we squee the place down* 

Modifié par LolaLei, 03 avril 2013 - 03:24 .

[CuriousArtemis]

littlenikki wrote...

Any of you guys and gals have that same issue? It's something that really makes me sad that it seems like we wont be able to play through the story of origin for our characters in the next game (ah there we go, had to loop it around to make it somewhat on topic again)

Oh yes, this happens to me. Even in DA2. I am nearly done with my current playthrough (I'm in Act 3), which is a Fenris-romance, but I have a sudden urge to return to CC and create a whole new Hawke and romance Merrill this time around.

I think it is DA fatigue lol We've played the game too much. STEP AWAY FROM THE PC/CONSOLE.

[LolaLei]

Reznore57 wrote...

Am i the only one not bothered by the Inquisition?

I don't look at it like a religious "grrr let's burn the heretic " thing.
In my mind it's more like being a detective looking for the truth , like a seeker but way cooler because you don't police templars and you're not bound to the chantry.

I must be crazy because I'm excited , like Oooh mysteries to solve ! Hidden knowledge!Great the chantry/grey warden/whatever were lying about this!
Yes , I'm probably crazy.

I don't mind being in the Inquisition, I'm just having trouble trying to work out how certain classes and background would end up being the Inquisitor.

[LolaLei]

motomotogirl wrote...

On a personal level I'm not too thrilled with the concept of the Inquisition; it's just a loaded word, and I'm anti-religion and definitely not a fan of the religion that was associated with the real life Inquisition lol But even in the world of Thedas, I do not like the Chantry (again, religion), and would prefer to write/play a character who is not at all associated with that organization.

However, it IS my character and not ME, so it's not like it'll kill me to write a pro-Chantry character. I can fall in love with any character, and I can understand why a character would be aligned one way or another. (I don't hate Sebastian, for example.)

I think what bothers me most about the idea of being "part" of this Inquisition is that it implies our character will be a person of power/influence right off the bat, which I don't like. I much prefer playing the young and confused Gray Warden, the last of his/her kind (+Alistair), or the young Hawke, a nobody trying to make his way through Kirkwall... ya know?

But that's all pointless to fuss about at this point b/c we know virtually nothing lol

That's what would bother me the most, being thrown into the game as someone who is already "experienced" enough to be made the Inquisitor or is some sort of important person that we've previously never even heard of.

[LolaLei]

littlenikki wrote...

I don't really mind the Inquisition, or Inquisitor title either Reznore, but I can see why some people are put off by it. (MMG pretty much nails it right on the head in her post)

So, quick off topic question for you all. I'm currently doing a human noble origin playthrough of DA: Origins, and I've noticed that each time I visit one of the key locations (Circle Tower, Orzammar, Dalish Camp, etc) I always get the urge to stop playing immediately, and go create another character that originates from that origin.

Any of you guys and gals have that same issue? It's something that really makes me sad that it seems like we wont be able to play through the story of origin for our characters in the next game (ah there we go, had to loop it around to make it somewhat on topic again)

Lol, constantly! Like in DA2 if I romance Anders then I feel the urge to romance Fenris, or if I romance Fenris then I'll feel the urge to romance Anders etc. I don't have that problem with the LI's in DA:O though, even when I'm tempted to do a Zev romance playthrough Alistair ALWAYS wins me over.

[LolaLei]

Did my wall of text send everyone to sleep?

[Reznore57]

Well I have the "I need to start another character " too.
I think it's because I've played the game a lot , and in the back of my mind , something telling me that if I change romance partner , gender , haircut ...whatever.It will truly feel like an new experience.
But It doesn't work ,Ostagar or killing the Arishok doesn't feel new.
And I have a terrible problem , I always play the same way...
Sometimes I think "I'm so going to play evil!" ...5 min of playing a jerk , i quit the game frustrated.
"Why can't I be a monster and enjoy it!" ...Don't know i just can't.

And about how we can play an inquisitor ; Lolalei.
If you mean like how a mage fit into this...my guess is ...well the chantry/circle mage/templar model didn't work.
I think some people will gather and just well aknowledge that things need to change , there will always be magical trouble in a magical world ...the world isn't magic just because there's mages around.
In my very optimistic mind , the Inquisition will welcome mages because they will need them to understand the problems, they will need their power and knowledge.
And they will probably step on the chantry toes in some area.
Otherwise , we would be playing well , a seeker.They would be no need to build a new order to promote the chantry.

[LolaLei]

Reznore57 wrote...

Well I have the "I need to start another character " too.
I think it's because I've played the game a lot , and in the back of my mind , something telling me that if I change romance partner , gender , haircut ...whatever.It will truly feel like an new experience.
But It doesn't work ,Ostagar or killing the Arishok doesn't feel new.
And I have a terrible problem , I always play the same way...
Sometimes I think "I'm so going to play evil!" ...5 min of playing a jerk , i quit the game frustrated.
"Why can't I be a monster and enjoy it!" ...Don't know i just can't.

And about how we can play an inquisitor ; Lolalei.
If you mean like how a mage fit into this...my guess is ...well the chantry/circle mage/templar model didn't work.
I think some people will gather and just well aknowledge that things need to change , there will always be magical trouble in a magical world ...the world isn't magic just because there's mages around.
In my very optimistic mind , the Inquisition will welcome mages because they will need them to understand the problems, they will need their power and knowledge.
And they will probably step on the chantry toes in some area.
Otherwise , we would be playing well , a seeker.They would be no need to build a new order to promote the chantry.

Sure, they made need mages and stuff, but what why our protagonist? There's obviously a reason why they want our new protagonist to take the lead Inquisitor role.

[CuriousArtemis]

LolaLei wrote...

Did my wall of text send everyone to sleep?

No I just had to go to work

It's a nice set-up. Though I'm most interested in HOW we'll get suckered into joining this Inquisition do-dad.

[LolaLei]

motomotogirl wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Did my wall of text send everyone to sleep?

No I just had to go to work

It's a nice set-up. Though I'm most interested in HOW we'll get suckered into joining this Inquisition do-dad.

Me too, although aside from the case of mistaken identity I've got nothing. Maybe if they tell us what the backgrounds are then we'll be able to come up with some other ideas. I just hope whatever reasons each background gives us doesn't cheapen the experience.

I really don't wanna start out as some important person.

[meanieweenie]

LolaLei wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Did my wall of text send everyone to sleep?

No I just had to go to work

It's a nice set-up. Though I'm most interested in HOW we'll get suckered into joining this Inquisition do-dad.

Me too, although aside from the case of mistaken identity I've got nothing. Maybe if they tell us what the backgrounds are then we'll be able to come up with some other ideas. I just hope whatever reasons each background gives us doesn't cheapen the experience.

I really don't wanna start out as some important person.

Well there's always the blackmail option. "Join the Inquisition or your fluffy kitty gets it!" says the recruiter. lol

[LolaLei]

meanieweenie wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Did my wall of text send everyone to sleep?

No I just had to go to work

It's a nice set-up. Though I'm most interested in HOW we'll get suckered into joining this Inquisition do-dad.

Me too, although aside from the case of mistaken identity I've got nothing. Maybe if they tell us what the backgrounds are then we'll be able to come up with some other ideas. I just hope whatever reasons each background gives us doesn't cheapen the experience.

I really don't wanna start out as some important person.

Well there's always the blackmail option. "Join the Inquisition or your fluffy kitty gets it!" says the recruiter. lol

But why him/her? What makes the protagonist so important that they'd need him/her anyway?

Unless it's gonna be like the Grey Warden thing where we were the only ones available to do it, or we've essentially inherited the role somehow, or it's a case of mistaken identity? Otherwise it looks like we'll be this person that's supposed to be of importance that no one has ever heard of prior to DA3 which seems kinda bleugh.

... Or we've been specifically "trained" to do this for years because the Divine/Flemeth/or whoever forshadowed it. 

Modifié par LolaLei, 03 avril 2013 - 04:22 .

[meanieweenie]

LolaLei wrote...

meanieweenie wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Did my wall of text send everyone to sleep?

No I just had to go to work

It's a nice set-up. Though I'm most interested in HOW we'll get suckered into joining this Inquisition do-dad.

Me too, although aside from the case of mistaken identity I've got nothing. Maybe if they tell us what the backgrounds are then we'll be able to come up with some other ideas. I just hope whatever reasons each background gives us doesn't cheapen the experience.

I really don't wanna start out as some important person.

Well there's always the blackmail option. "Join the Inquisition or your fluffy kitty gets it!" says the recruiter. lol

But why him/her? What makes the protagonist so important that they'd need him/her anyway?

Unless it's gonna be like the Grey Warden thing where we were the only ones available to do it, or we've essentially inherited the role somehow, or it's a case of mistaken identity? Otherwise it looks like we'll be this person that's supposed to be of importance that no one has ever heard of prior to DA3 which seems kinda bleugh.

... Or we've been specifically "trained" to do this for years because the Divine/Flemeth/or whoever forshadowed it. 

Maybe they're pulling a mass recruitment because of a shorage due to the war. Maybe we're nothing special but our father/brother/mother/sister was and we're pulled because they assume we have these special qualities as well (maybe we do, maybe not). My thought is that if we're initially lumped in with a group, sort of like our Warden, then the only thing that would make us special is that we survived an attack or something. Of course, we could always be a spy for the other team too.

[LolaLei]

So rumour has it that the PS4 will be out in October (according to a newspaper interview with Sony gaming CEO Andrew House). If that's correct then if DA3 is still aiming for a 2013 release then presumably they'd want to aim for around that sort of time.

[LolaLei]

meanieweenie wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

meanieweenie wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Did my wall of text send everyone to sleep?

No I just had to go to work

It's a nice set-up. Though I'm most interested in HOW we'll get suckered into joining this Inquisition do-dad.

Me too, although aside from the case of mistaken identity I've got nothing. Maybe if they tell us what the backgrounds are then we'll be able to come up with some other ideas. I just hope whatever reasons each background gives us doesn't cheapen the experience.

I really don't wanna start out as some important person.

Well there's always the blackmail option. "Join the Inquisition or your fluffy kitty gets it!" says the recruiter. lol

But why him/her? What makes the protagonist so important that they'd need him/her anyway?

Unless it's gonna be like the Grey Warden thing where we were the only ones available to do it, or we've essentially inherited the role somehow, or it's a case of mistaken identity? Otherwise it looks like we'll be this person that's supposed to be of importance that no one has ever heard of prior to DA3 which seems kinda bleugh.

... Or we've been specifically "trained" to do this for years because the Divine/Flemeth/or whoever forshadowed it. 

Maybe they're pulling a mass recruitment because of a shorage due to the war. Maybe we're nothing special but our father/brother/mother/sister was and we're pulled because they assume we have these special qualities as well (maybe we do, maybe not). My thought is that if we're initially lumped in with a group, sort of like our Warden, then the only thing that would make us special is that we survived an attack or something. Of course, we could always be a spy for the other team too.

You could be onto something there! Maybe our "tutorial" will be us training etc and then we just happen to be the best of the bunch or do something noteworthy that bags us the role of Inquisitor? ... Or everyone else dies LOL!

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

meanieweenie wrote...

Maybe they're pulling a mass recruitment because of a shorage due to the war. Maybe we're nothing special but our father/brother/mother/sister was and we're pulled because they assume we have these special qualities as well (maybe we do, maybe not). My thought is that if we're initially lumped in with a group, sort of like our Warden, then the only thing that would make us special is that we survived an attack or something. Of course, we could always be a spy for the other team too.

You could be onto something there! Maybe our "tutorial" will be us training etc and then we just happen to be the best of the bunch or do something noteworthy that bags us the role of Inquisitor? ... Or everyone else dies LOL!

This was sorta like something I was just thinking. Maybe you are just some joe schmoe, shanghai'd/recruited/whatever, and in fact,  you're such a nobody, you get sent off on a suicide mission, since you're a red shirt. But, you amazingly survive, yada yada, cue next story beat, you're on your way up in the world. Of course... that doesn't quite jibe with leading the Inquisition 'from the start' or whatever the leaked survey said, but it could still be a short quest I suppose (like the tutorial part).

On Reznore's question about the Inquisition, I also imagine it being some sort of external party, militia, born of the people type organization... but I still think there's a reason the word 'inquisition' was used, both for the 'real world' connotation and for the Thedosian connotation, both bad. I could see us either being able to capitalize on that former 'bad' connotation and proving it wrong... or (my preferred idea), it starts out good, and later  you discover that the heart of your organization is actually corrupt as well. As for myself, I'm fine with it in any case, good/bad/neutral/you decide, but I'm just intensely curious how they're going to motivate it.

Modifié par R2s Muse, 03 avril 2013 - 04:48 .

[LolaLei]

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

meanieweenie wrote...

Maybe they're pulling a mass recruitment because of a shorage due to the war. Maybe we're nothing special but our father/brother/mother/sister was and we're pulled because they assume we have these special qualities as well (maybe we do, maybe not). My thought is that if we're initially lumped in with a group, sort of like our Warden, then the only thing that would make us special is that we survived an attack or something. Of course, we could always be a spy for the other team too.

You could be onto something there! Maybe our "tutorial" will be us training etc and then we just happen to be the best of the bunch or do something noteworthy that bags us the role of Inquisitor? ... Or everyone else dies LOL!

This was sorta like something I was just thinking. Maybe you are just some joe schmoe, shanghai'd/recruited/whatever, and in fact,  you're such a nobody, you get sent off on a suicide mission, since you're a red shirt. But, you amazingly survive, yada yada, cue next story beat, you're on your way up in the world. Of course... that doesn't quite jibe with leading the Inquisition 'from the start' or whatever the leaked survey said, but it could still be a short quest I suppose (like the tutorial part).

I like that idea, but like you mentioned the survey says we'll have to lead the Inquisiton from the start... although, that could be "from the start- after the tutorial" lol.

[Danny Boy 7]

R2s Muse wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

 Hey R2 have you ever thought about writing a fanfic about Cassandra like "The Coming Storm" fanfic you wrote that was filled with suspence, great characterization and to me feels like it fits perfectly in the Dragon Age universe? /end promotion:D

Aw, Danny, you're so sweet! Hmm, I have a story in which Cassandra features right now... but she's only a small part, a puppet master behind the scenes. I think I still haven't quite wrapped my brain around who she is supposed to be in 9:40, and what she would be doing. You have a story in mind?? 

Nah I just really want more of your writing lol and Cassandra is kind of awesome, so I thought you'd write her next

LOL Thanks for the encouragement! I'll see what I can do! 

WOOO

Ah rats... now that you got me thinking about it, a plot bunny has taken hold. Stand by for "The Coming Storm, Part 2." <_<

Yes, yes, let the inspiration flow through you!

[Danny Boy 7]

Reznore57 wrote...

Am i the only one not bothered by the Inquisition?

I don't look at it like a religious "grrr let's burn the heretic " thing.
In my mind it's more like being a detective looking for the truth , like a seeker but way cooler because you don't police templars and you're not bound to the chantry.

I must be crazy because I'm excited , like Oooh mysteries to solve ! Hidden knowledge!Great the chantry/grey warden/whatever were lying about this!
Yes , I'm probably crazy.

I don't mind it, it's just a name to me, but like Nikki said I can understand why people would HATE it and I respect that. I'm more of the mind of the detective like you though. It's gonna be a bit more about investigating mysteries than hunting down heretics in my mind at least, but I imagine we'll be allowed to do the former if we're so inclined. I wouldn't be though, so Detective it is lol.

I'm with Lola, I dunno how certain classes really fit into the whole story and it's hard to really tell why we'll get involved at all.

[meanieweenie]

Ha! "Operation Human Sheild". The only way to earn your blue shirt is to survive being a red.

Anyway, I was thinking about RL in certain countries one is required by law to serve at least 2 years in the military... could be something of that nature. Maybe during your suicide run, being the only survivor you accidentally overhear the enemies plotting as you play dead. That would make you a little special. Or a coward. LOL