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[LolaLei]

I'm gonna shag all the things... wait, what? Dragon Age week? When is that happening?

[Danny Boy 7]

LolaLei wrote...

I'm gonna shag all the things... wait, what? Dragon Age week? When is that happening?

Yes...yes you are.

I'm guessing on monday. It doesn't seem to be very Dragon Agey though so much that it's like a funny kind of team building.

[LolaLei]

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I'm gonna shag all the things... wait, what? Dragon Age week? When is that happening?

Yes...yes you are.

I'm guessing on monday. It doesn't seem to be very Dragon Agey though so much that it's like a funny kind of team building.

Oh, right. So it isn't some sort of showcase thing for us then?

[Renmiri1]

Look what I found on Youtube... 

Modifié par Renmiri1, 06 avril 2013 - 09:42 .

[LolaLei]

Just listening to the PAX recording. Did you guys notice that when they mentioned Bodahn they said about how traditionally there's almost always a merchant that hangs out in your base in a lot of RPG's, then mentioned that Bodahn is that guy? I'm calling it now, he and Sandal will end up back with us in DA3... which is kinda obvious, but it's something.

Do you suppose the fact that one of them says "finally" about Cullen having a fun fandom, is more like "finally he has a fandom that he deserves" or "finally his fandom have lightened up a bit"? I also find it strange that they mention that Cullen realises that not all mages a "bad" and can be trusted, yet he never actually says anything about being able to trust them, in fact, if Hawke tells Cullen to let Alain hang in Act 3 then he'll mention again that mages can't be trusted.

Makes me wonder if perhaps that's a little bit of his story in DA3 leaking through.

[LolaLei]

Mike Laidlaw:
Every so often the level, concept or character artists sneak me a peek of the stuff they're still working on. I love it when that happens.

Mike Laidlaw:
Related to that last tweet: I really like the DA Seeker logo. #shiftyeyes

[LolaLei]

Post from Allan Schumacher regarding the emotional content in DA games and how it wasn't as well done as it was in ME games:

"I agree that emotional content doesn't resonate as well as it did in, say, Mass Effect. I think we can do better in this regard, and have some great examples from other games to show that it can be done (The Walking Dead is the one that resonates most strongly with me)."

My gawd, The Walking Dead game was so so sad. If they go that route then I'm gonna bawling my bloody eyes out all the way through DA3!

Modifié par LolaLei, 06 avril 2013 - 10:24 .

[Danny Boy 7]

LolaLei wrote...

Just listening to the PAX recording. Did you guys notice that when they mentioned Bodahn they said about how traditionally there's almost always a merchant that hangs out in your base in a lot of RPG's, then mentioned that Bodahn is that guy? I'm calling it now, he and Sandal will end up back with us in DA3... which is kinda obvious, but it's something.

Do you suppose the fact that one of them says "finally" about Cullen having a fun fandom, is more like "finally he has a fandom that he deserves" or "finally his fandom have lightened up a bit"? I also find it strange that they mention that Cullen realises that not all mages a "bad" and can be trusted, yet he never actually says anything about being able to trust them, in fact, if Hawke tells Cullen to let Alain hang in Act 3 then he'll mention again that mages can't be trusted.

Makes me wonder if perhaps that's a little bit of his story in DA3 leaking through.

I think Bodhan/Sandal and Flemeth will always be around for Dragon Age games simply because they've sort of become the R2-D2 of Dragon Age which I love honestly lol.

I dunno what they actually meant by "finally", it's kind of hard to tell because I can't see it. I can't see their expressions and in some regards can't see what they're referring to. I mean for all I know whoever said that remembered whether he left something in the oven and it was like, "Finally I remembered"

I think Cullen just doesn't trust any mage that hasn't been within eye sight or hasn't proved their loyalty like Hawke has. He certainly hasn't gone all Alrik on us, so maybe that's what they meant.

[Danny Boy 7]

LolaLei wrote...

Post from Allan Schumacher regarding the emotional content in DA games and how it wasn't as well done as it was in ME games:

"I agree that emotional content doesn't resonate as well as it did in, say, Mass Effect. I think we can do better in this regard, and have some great examples from other games to show that it can be done (The Walking Dead is the one that resonates most strongly with me)."

My gawd, The Walking Dead game was so so sad. If they go that route then I'm gonna bawling my bloody eyes out all the way through DA3!

I was in that thread, I think he was replying to how EVERYTHING in that game has emotional content (in a good way). the mechanics, how you fight etc and how he'd love for it to be in DA3. It was actually an awesome thread. He QAed us. I am now a game developer apparently

[LolaLei]

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Just listening to the PAX recording. Did you guys notice that when they mentioned Bodahn they said about how traditionally there's almost always a merchant that hangs out in your base in a lot of RPG's, then mentioned that Bodahn is that guy? I'm calling it now, he and Sandal will end up back with us in DA3... which is kinda obvious, but it's something.

Do you suppose the fact that one of them says "finally" about Cullen having a fun fandom, is more like "finally he has a fandom that he deserves" or "finally his fandom have lightened up a bit"? I also find it strange that they mention that Cullen realises that not all mages a "bad" and can be trusted, yet he never actually says anything about being able to trust them, in fact, if Hawke tells Cullen to let Alain hang in Act 3 then he'll mention again that mages can't be trusted.

Makes me wonder if perhaps that's a little bit of his story in DA3 leaking through.

I think Bodhan/Sandal and Flemeth will always be around for Dragon Age games simply because they've sort of become the R2-D2 of Dragon Age which I love honestly lol.

I dunno what they actually meant by "finally", it's kind of hard to tell because I can't see it. I can't see their expressions and in some regards can't see what they're referring to. I mean for all I know whoever said that remembered whether he left something in the oven and it was like, "Finally I remembered"

I think Cullen just doesn't trust any mage that hasn't been within eye sight or hasn't proved their loyalty like Hawke has. He certainly hasn't gone all Alrik on us, so maybe that's what they meant.

In regards to Bodahn and Sandal, It was obvious that they would be in DA3, but I wasn't sure if it would just be as a cameo or a brief transaction with them etc, since they were supposed to be working for the Empress, but since it sounds like she has bigger fish to fry and that PAX panel I think we'll definitely have them back in our base as per tradition.

[LolaLei]

SilverMoonDragon wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Just listening to the PAX recording. Did you guys notice that when they mentioned Bodahn they said about how traditionally there's almost always a merchant that hangs out in your base in a lot of RPG's, then mentioned that Bodahn is that guy? I'm calling it now, he and Sandal will end up back with us in DA3... which is kinda obvious, but it's something.

Do you suppose the fact that one of them says "finally" about Cullen having a fun fandom, is more like "finally he has a fandom that he deserves" or "finally his fandom have lightened up a bit"? I also find it strange that they mention that Cullen realises that not all mages a "bad" and can be trusted, yet he never actually says anything about being able to trust them, in fact, if Hawke tells Cullen to let Alain hang in Act 3 then he'll mention again that mages can't be trusted.

Makes me wonder if perhaps that's a little bit of his story in DA3 leaking through.

I wondered that too...it's an interesting, and an encouraging thought :happy:

I mean, in the pro-Templar playthrough he does stand up for the 3 mages that ask them for help, but that doesn't mean he trusts them, and he shouldn't. Not yet. His trust in mages... or at least certain mages that have proved themselves should be shown in DA3, especially if he's a companion/LI.

[LolaLei]

SilverMoonDragon wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

SilverMoonDragon wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Just listening to the PAX recording. Did you guys notice that when they mentioned Bodahn they said about how traditionally there's almost always a merchant that hangs out in your base in a lot of RPG's, then mentioned that Bodahn is that guy? I'm calling it now, he and Sandal will end up back with us in DA3... which is kinda obvious, but it's something.

Do you suppose the fact that one of them says "finally" about Cullen having a fun fandom, is more like "finally he has a fandom that he deserves" or "finally his fandom have lightened up a bit"? I also find it strange that they mention that Cullen realises that not all mages a "bad" and can be trusted, yet he never actually says anything about being able to trust them, in fact, if Hawke tells Cullen to let Alain hang in Act 3 then he'll mention again that mages can't be trusted.

Makes me wonder if perhaps that's a little bit of his story in DA3 leaking through.

I wondered that too...it's an interesting, and an encouraging thought :happy:

I mean, in the pro-Templar playthrough he does stand up for the 3 mages that ask them for help, but that doesn't mean he trusts them, and he shouldn't. Not yet. His trust in mages... or at least certain mages that have proved themselves should be shown in DA3, especially if he's a companion/LI.

True, I agree. I've never done a Pro-Templar playthrough, but I have watched that scene online. That whole conflict within him, what he used to think about Mages, what happened to him and what he believes now about Mages, I believe would truly be an ongoing internal struggle for him, even if he isn't completely aware of it that short moment is almost like a little bit of light shining through a crack in a rock wall. That whole dynamic and plot with him is something I would really like to experience and see in DA3, best case scenario he'll be a companion/LI 

Yeah, I feel the story of his own personal growth and struggle from DA:O to DA3 would have the greatest impact if he's made a companion/LI. When we left him in DA2 you could see that he was on the verge of something life changing within himself, to the extent that it felt like DA2 served as his plot setup for his DA3 storyline.

I'd certainly prefer to be a part of his progression via the protagonist, so that we can experience it with him, instead of just watching from the sidelines... but that can only really be done if he has a companion role.

Modifié par LolaLei, 06 avril 2013 - 11:58 .

[LolaLei]

charlottecorday wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Post from Allan Schumacher regarding the emotional content in DA games and how it wasn't as well done as it was in ME games:

"I agree that emotional content doesn't resonate as well as it did in, say, Mass Effect. I think we can do better in this regard, and have some great examples from other games to show that it can be done (The Walking Dead is the one that resonates most strongly with me)."

My gawd, The Walking Dead game was so so sad. If they go that route then I'm gonna bawling my bloody eyes out all the way through DA3!

Oh man, I'm still not over the ending of the Walking Dead game. Whenever I hear Lee's voice actor in other games I have to stop and take a moment, lmao.

Me too. I'm looking forward to the next Walking Dead game, but I'm also kinda dreading it because I know it's gonna be sad as hell.

[R2s Muse]

motomotogirl wrote...

Wiedzmin182009 wrote...

Fan asked about Sebastian; devs extremely tight-lipped on his involvement

HEY R2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

[LolaLei]

YAY! I hope Seb does come back, I need to check that he's ok!

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

I also find it strange that they mention that Cullen realises that not all mages a "bad" and can be trusted, yet he never actually says anything about being able to trust them, in fact, if Hawke tells Cullen to let Alain hang in Act 3 then he'll mention again that mages can't be trusted.

Makes me wonder if perhaps that's a little bit of his story in DA3 leaking through.

Well, I'm hesitant to put too much stock in what she said, given that she isn't a DA3 dev but an editor with Tor books. They might have spilled the beans to her about Cullen in advance, but seems like a stretch to me. I was thinking she meant more that he doesn't think mages are bad by the end of DA2, not strictly whether they all can be trusted or not. Of course, the way he's written in DA2, he still seems a little muddled on the point right up until the very end (i.e. the line you quoted from Best Served Cold; he can still say some pretty anti-mage things during that quest).

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

Mike Laidlaw:
Every so often the level, concept or character artists sneak me a peek of the stuff they're still working on. I love it when that happens.

Mike Laidlaw:
Related to that last tweet: I really like the DA Seeker logo. #shiftyeyes

Hmmm.... tantalizing. Is he telling us the Seeker logo will appear in the game (duh!)? Or that they've tweaked/redesigned the Seeker logo??  Hmmm....

[R2s Muse]

Renmiri1 wrote...

Look what I found on Youtube... 

LOL Yeah, there are more Anders/Cullen shippers than I realize sometimes!

[R2s Muse]

motomotogirl wrote...

Does anyone, like me, not remember every single important decision your Hawke(s) made? I can't remember which ones rivaled Merrill and which ones didn't. Or even which ones have living siblings LOL

LOL Yeah, I have no idea from playthrough to playthrough. That's why I'm sorta hoping they have some tool, like the ME interactive comic Genesis, that takes you through the story, reminding you of the key choices, and lets you choose an SUPER-ULTIMATE playthrough for import.

I would love the notion that fixing Merrill's mirror was a bad choice... I think all my Hawkes would then feel vindicated!! Sadly, I doubt there will be a "nya, nya, told you so!" option in DA3. LOL

[R2s Muse]

Wiedzmin182009 wrote...

Sebastian in DA III? Kirkwall destroyed

Companion? I don't think so. Starhaven Lord? Yes.

Realistically, I don't see Sebastian really coming back to Kirkwall with an army. I think it would take him some time to even get his crown back, and by the time he even had an army... Hawke & Anders wouldn't even be in Kirkwall anymore. But, could he be a companion? I really think he could be! After all, Anders was a full companion twice, so it's possible with Seb. Especially since the first time around he was DLC and fully optional. Boy... having him as a full companion would just be the bees knees!!<3<3

Modifié par R2s Muse, 06 avril 2013 - 01:31 .

[LolaLei]

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I also find it strange that they mention that Cullen realises that not all mages a "bad" and can be trusted, yet he never actually says anything about being able to trust them, in fact, if Hawke tells Cullen to let Alain hang in Act 3 then he'll mention again that mages can't be trusted.

Makes me wonder if perhaps that's a little bit of his story in DA3 leaking through.

Well, I'm hesitant to put too much stock in what she said, given that she isn't a DA3 dev but an editor with Tor books. They might have spilled the beans to her about Cullen in advance, but seems like a stretch to me. I was thinking she meant more that he doesn't think mages are bad by the end of DA2, not strictly whether they all can be trusted or not. Of course, the way he's written in DA2, he still seems a little muddled on the point right up until the very end (i.e. the line you quoted from Best Served Cold; he can still say some pretty anti-mage things during that quest).

Thing is, it's not just her who has said stuff like that about Cullen, the devs have too. They keep saying that things about his actions and personality that haven't been seen in the games so far... it just makes me wonder.

[LolaLei]

R2s Muse wrote...

Renmiri1 wrote...

Look what I found on Youtube... 

LOL Yeah, there are more Anders/Cullen shippers than I realize sometimes!

Of all the Cullen-ships I've seen, I've never seen a Fenris+Cullen pairing.