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[LolaLei]

SilverMoonDragon wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

VampOrchid wrote...

You know what I'm wondering.

If Bioware is somewhat following our own world history and combining it with that of DA world. You got the Templars, which we had. And then for some reason, this next DA seems like it's going to have the fall of the Templars, which we also had.

Templars also protected ancient and sacred relects. Wonder if there's going to be something alon the lines of that in DA3. And really, if you think about it, having Templars on another world, filled with humans, in another universe, simular to our own...well it would only make sense for it to have simular history.

I'm fully expecting DA3 to be like Les Miserables! ... Minus the singing, obviously. All the historical references are in place though!

Bwahaha!  So, you mean, we should expect student revolutions in the streets?

We had an interesting conversation once upon a time about some parallels between Cullen and Javert, after an idea about Cullen being born inside a Circle/Jail, like Javert.

LOL! Something like that! 

Hmm, so who are the student analogues in Thedas? I get the impression that the 'scholars' of their age are the priests, like Brother Genetivi, so presumably no big universities for smart rich kids to foment rebellion?

I was thinking more along the lines of the poor revolting against the rich 'n' stuff. 

Hmmm, I can definitely see that happening. And that whole plot in Les Mis about the French Revolution is something I could see coming to fruition somewhere in Thedas, it is inevitable when a group of people is being oppressed by another, and I can certainly think of several (Elves, Mages, etc) that have cause for a full scale revolt. It would be an interesting plot development, I would totally side with the poor and oppressed of course! :happy: "RED! The blood of angry men, BLACK! The dark of ages past!" . As for Cullen being like Javert...I'm not sure, I don't know if Cullen would be so pissed off and chase some guy for over 10 yrs because he stole a loaf of bread  (before anyone says anything, yes I know there is slightly more to it than that ). Evenso, I kinda know what you mean, in both cases it is an interesting comparison. 

So long as he doesn't kill himself at the end! 

[LolaLei]

I wonder if Cullen will be kill-able in DA3 if he's a companion? I know there are a lot of people out there that would happily murder knife him given half the chance.

Do you suppose BioWare would grant them their wish and let him live for those who like him, and die for those who didn't? Or do you think they'd get a kick out of keeping him alive to really annoying the haters? ... Or maybe even kill him off after 5 minutes to upset his fans?

[LolaLei]

Oh, I can confirm that May 21st isn't DA3's release date lol. Presumably that counts for an info release date too.

Modifié par LolaLei, 08 avril 2013 - 04:23 .

[meanieweenie]

LolaLei wrote...

I wonder if Cullen will be kill-able in DA3 if he's a companion? I know there are a lot of people out there that would happily murder knife him given half the chance.

Do you suppose BioWare would grant them their wish and let him live for those who like him, and die for those who didn't? Or do you think they'd get a kick out of keeping him alive to really annoying the haters? ... Or maybe even kill him off after 5 minutes to upset his fans?

I think the best balance would be to make him killable... as an option, like Zevran in DA:O. Take him on as a companion or murder knife him. Then everyone can smile.

[R2s Muse]

SilverMoonDragon wrote...


Hmmm, I can definitely see that happening. And that whole plot in Les Mis about the French Revolution is something I could see coming to fruition somewhere in Thedas, it is inevitable when a group of people is being oppressed by another, and I can certainly think of several (Elves, Mages, etc) that have cause for a full scale revolt. It would be an interesting plot development, I would totally side with the poor and oppressed of course! :happy: "RED! The blood of angry men, BLACK! The dark of ages past!" . As for Cullen being like Javert...I'm not sure, I don't know if Cullen would be so pissed off and chase some guy for over 10 yrs because he stole a loaf of bread  (before anyone says anything, yes I know there is slightly more to it than that ). Evenso, I kinda know what you mean, in both cases it is an interesting comparison. 

Oh yeah. The discussion was more about being a rule follower, which Cullen ostensibly is, and how far one would go to support the system.

[R2s Muse]

meanieweenie wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I wonder if Cullen will be kill-able in DA3 if he's a companion? I know there are a lot of people out there that would happily murder knife him given half the chance.

Do you suppose BioWare would grant them their wish and let him live for those who like him, and die for those who didn't? Or do you think they'd get a kick out of keeping him alive to really annoying the haters? ... Or maybe even kill him off after 5 minutes to upset his fans?

I think the best balance would be to make him killable... as an option, like Zevran in DA:O. Take him on as a companion or murder knife him. Then everyone can smile.

^This.

[LolaLei]

R2s Muse wrote...

SilverMoonDragon wrote...


Hmmm, I can definitely see that happening. And that whole plot in Les Mis about the French Revolution is something I could see coming to fruition somewhere in Thedas, it is inevitable when a group of people is being oppressed by another, and I can certainly think of several (Elves, Mages, etc) that have cause for a full scale revolt. It would be an interesting plot development, I would totally side with the poor and oppressed of course! :happy: "RED! The blood of angry men, BLACK! The dark of ages past!" . As for Cullen being like Javert...I'm not sure, I don't know if Cullen would be so pissed off and chase some guy for over 10 yrs because he stole a loaf of bread  (before anyone says anything, yes I know there is slightly more to it than that ). Evenso, I kinda know what you mean, in both cases it is an interesting comparison. 

Oh yeah. The discussion was more about being a rule follower, which Cullen ostensibly is, and how far one would go to support the system.

No, but he's obsessed enough to chase after a pretty female mage for over 10 years. Hur hur hur... 

(Sorry, couldn't resist!)  :innocent:

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

SilverMoonDragon wrote...


Hmmm, I can definitely see that happening. And that whole plot in Les Mis about the French Revolution is something I could see coming to fruition somewhere in Thedas, it is inevitable when a group of people is being oppressed by another, and I can certainly think of several (Elves, Mages, etc) that have cause for a full scale revolt. It would be an interesting plot development, I would totally side with the poor and oppressed of course! :happy: "RED! The blood of angry men, BLACK! The dark of ages past!" . As for Cullen being like Javert...I'm not sure, I don't know if Cullen would be so pissed off and chase some guy for over 10 yrs because he stole a loaf of bread  (before anyone says anything, yes I know there is slightly more to it than that ). Evenso, I kinda know what you mean, in both cases it is an interesting comparison. 

Oh yeah. The discussion was more about being a rule follower, which Cullen ostensibly is, and how far one would go to support the system.

No, but he's obsessed enough to chase after a pretty female mage for over 10 years. Hur hur hur... 

(Sorry, couldn't resist!)  :innocent:

Bwahahaha!  But, isn't it always?

[LolaLei]

SilverMoonDragon wrote...
I figured that's what you were refering too, I was just being silly . It does raise an interesting question, would you follow something you've unflexibly believed in for most of your life to the very end, even if it meant bringing suffering and pain to others, or in the face of oppression would you find compassion and mercy? I like to think Cullen would 

I think he would. He did at the end of DA2, doubly so if you played as pro-Templar.

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

SilverMoonDragon wrote...
I figured that's what you were refering too, I was just being silly . It does raise an interesting question, would you follow something you've unflexibly believed in for most of your life to the very end, even if it meant bringing suffering and pain to others, or in the face of oppression would you find compassion and mercy? I like to think Cullen would 

I think he would. He did at the end of DA2, doubly so if you played as pro-Templar.

Yeah, I think with Cullen, the proof is in the pudding. He had to challenge everything he had been indoctrinated to believe with Meredith, and that the ends no longer justified the means. Pretty big step for our boy. Of course... I think he also still had the comfort of that indoctrination. He felt that Meredith had betrayed the tenets of the Order, not so much that the Order was wrong. Heh. Fast forward to 9:40, and the Order itself has set itself against the mages. I think he'll have some more soul searching to do.

[LolaLei]

To further elaborate on that May 21st thing. Apparently that's when the new Xbox reveal event is. Soooo yuh, no DA3 reveal will be happening at that either.

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

To further elaborate on that May 21st thing. Apparently that's when the new Xbox reveal event is. Soooo yuh, no DA3 reveal will be happening at that either.

So... they wouldn't also reveal a game that might run on the new Xbox with the Xbox reveal...? I have no idea how these things work...

[LolaLei]

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

To further elaborate on that May 21st thing. Apparently that's when the new Xbox reveal event is. Soooo yuh, no DA3 reveal will be happening at that either.

So... they wouldn't also reveal a game that might run on the new Xbox with the Xbox reveal...? I have no idea how these things work...

Me neither, I'm totally confused. Presumably there won't be a reveal at all in May either... so that leaves June if they're still aiming for a Spring reveal.

Modifié par LolaLei, 08 avril 2013 - 04:43 .

[evil_blond_goth]

Yay for Christopher Lee doing a voice over or charater

[evil_blond_goth]

Do any of the DA games deal with how Cullen came to join the Templars/his life before, not sure if I have heard of anything yet but then aftere playing for eight hours on occasion I do tend to miss things/dialog sometimes.

[LolaLei]

evil_blond_goth wrote...

Do any of the DA games deal with how Cullen came to join the Templars/his life before, not sure if I have heard of anything yet but then aftere playing for eight hours on occasion I do tend to miss things/dialog sometimes.

Naw. There was some deleted dialogue from DA:O where he says he joined because he wanted to be a Knight protecting people and stuff, but besides that his past is a complete mystery.

[LolaLei]

Sooo, some of the DA devs are in Stockholm, that's where the DICE people live!

Modifié par LolaLei, 08 avril 2013 - 05:27 .

[Demarco09]

LolaLei wrote...

Sooo, some of the DA devs are in Stockholm, that's where the DICE people live!

LOL I totally pictured you saying that in a weird voice....don't know why but it totally made it hilarious.

[LolaLei]

Demarco09 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Sooo, some of the DA devs are in Stockholm, that's where the DICE people live!

LOL I totally pictured you saying that in a weird voice....don't know why but it totally made it hilarious.

Picture it said in Sandal's voice! 

[evil_blond_goth]

Perhaps something to explore in a future game then.

Ahh I have never played table top, not good with math. Seriously not good at counting or adding. I do RPG on a site that works like this one, it's all based around Vampire the Masquarde and we do use the points system to 'level' up our charaters; but it's about the creative writting/story based RP.

So one person will make a post for their chaarters and I will reply for mine if thay are involved in that particular scene/story.

[Reznore57]

I think Mark Darrah went to Stocklhom a few weeks ago . Oo
Probably means they're still working on the engine :s...or maybe they really like Sweden.