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Reznore57 wrote...

I think Mark Darrah went to Stocklhom a few weeks ago . Oo
Probably means they're still working on the engine :s...or maybe they really like Sweden.


I guess they go backwards and forwards because they share ideas and stuff between DICE and the DA3 development. Plus, it's the first time that Frostbite 2 (and now 3) have been used for an RPG, so I would imagine that they are interested in the process and stuff.

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evil_blond_goth wrote...

Perhaps something to explore in a future game then.

Ahh I have never played table top, not good with math. Seriously not good at counting or adding. I do RPG on a site that works like this one, it's all based around Vampire the Masquarde and we do use the points system to 'level' up our charaters; but it's about the creative writting/story based RP.

So one person will make a post for their chaarters and I will reply for mine if thay are involved in that particular scene/story.


Oh, I don't mean dice as in table top. DICE is the company that made the frostbite 3 engine that DA3 will be running on.

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LolaLei wrote...

Demarco09 wrote...

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Sooo, some of the DA devs are in Stockholm, that's where the DICE people live!



LOL I totally pictured you saying that in a weird voice....don't know why but it totally made it hilarious.


Picture it said in Sandal's voice! :lol:



More like painfully excited bubbly Disney character...


But we won't talk anymore about Disney, they be in my bad books right now.
Cancel Star Wars 1313 and close down LucasArts ..... I KKEEEEEL YOU!

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No more Monkey Island for us!

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No, we have to send Disney our good juju... so they don't frak up SW VII! LOL

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ahh sorry my mistake

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R2s Muse wrote...

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You know what I'm wondering.

If Bioware is somewhat following our own world history and combining it with that of DA world. You got the Templars, which we had. And then for some reason, this next DA seems like it's going to have the fall of the Templars, which we also had.

Templars also protected ancient and sacred relects. Wonder if there's going to be something alon the lines of that in DA3. And really, if you think about it, having Templars on another world, filled with humans, in another universe, simular to our own...well it would only make sense for it to have simular history.

Hmm, I'm not quite sure I see the parallels. Can you elaborate?


Well the Templars of our world, were knights for the church, basically. The Templars in DA is an order for the chantry. Kind of the same deal. Do a quick reading on the Templars of our world and you'll start to see some simular stuff. From the outfits and vows, right down to whom they received their orders from.

Then there's the way the Templars of our world came to an end. By the church, and I believe the Italian leader of the day (don't quote me on that) Which I have a feeling might happen in DA as well. The Chantry might not like it if the Templar Order discovered they didn't need Lyrium...or if they became too much for the Chantry to control.

And I believe there was a 'special' section of Templars in the 1500s that did do some 'witch' hunting.

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I know they framed and subsequently killed all the real life Templars when they weren't needed any longer. Something like that could be interesting in DA3.

... So long as they don't kill Cullen.

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LolaLei wrote...

I know they framed and subsequently killed all the real life Templars when they weren't needed any longer. Something like that could be interesting in DA3.

... So long as they don't kill Cullen.


Maybe that's why he has the change of uniform. Breaking away from the Chantry and owning their own place in the world.

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Well ladies, I'm sad to say this but I must leave again. I've tried to keep up this morning, reading everything while I prepare to go back to my truck. I didn't have time to reply and no I must go. =( I'll see you all again in a couple of weeks. Hopefully... Be happy and well!

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LolaLei wrote...

I know they framed and subsequently killed all the real life Templars when they weren't needed any longer. Something like that could be interesting in DA3.

... So long as they don't kill Cullen.



DO NOT KILL CULLEN. I will slowly die inside if they did that.... slowly...painfully ... die inside.:crying:

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SamaraDraven wrote...

Well ladies, I'm sad to say this but I must leave again. I've tried to keep up this morning, reading everything while I prepare to go back to my truck. I didn't have time to reply and no I must go. =( I'll see you all again in a couple of weeks. Hopefully... Be happy and well!


Take care! :D

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VampOrchid wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I know they framed and subsequently killed all the real life Templars when they weren't needed any longer. Something like that could be interesting in DA3.

... So long as they don't kill Cullen.


Maybe that's why he has the change of uniform. Breaking away from the Chantry and owning their own place in the world.


That's something that puzzles me about his survey leak concept art. If it's legit, then he's pretty much wearing what looks regular "everyman" armor, yet his little skirty/flappy bits shows the Templar insignia on it. Now, is that how all the Orlesian Templars dress (Which contradicts the concept art of Orlais which shows Templars wearing the same sort of uniform as the Kirkwall ones), is he now a rebelled Templar, thus not wearing the Chantry provided uniform anymore? Alternative did the rebelled Templars decide to keep the uniform, thus him not wearing it any longer because he remains Divine loyal?

... Or perhaps he's wearing special companion armor, thus not wearing his fully uniform since he won't be "on duty" but is still wearing the Templar insignia just to show that he is one?

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SamaraDraven wrote...

Well ladies, I'm sad to say this but I must leave again. I've tried to keep up this morning, reading everything while I prepare to go back to my truck. I didn't have time to reply and no I must go. =( I'll see you all again in a couple of weeks. Hopefully... Be happy and well!

  Be safe!  Talk to you soon!

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SamaraDraven wrote...

Well ladies, I'm sad to say this but I must leave again. I've tried to keep up this morning, reading everything while I prepare to go back to my truck. I didn't have time to reply and no I must go. =( I'll see you all again in a couple of weeks. Hopefully... Be happy and well!


Be carefully on the roads! I'll tweet you if any DA3 news gets revealed.

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VampOrchid wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

VampOrchid wrote...

You know what I'm wondering.

If Bioware is somewhat following our own world history and combining it with that of DA world. You got the Templars, which we had. And then for some reason, this next DA seems like it's going to have the fall of the Templars, which we also had.

Templars also protected ancient and sacred relects. Wonder if there's going to be something alon the lines of that in DA3. And really, if you think about it, having Templars on another world, filled with humans, in another universe, simular to our own...well it would only make sense for it to have simular history.

Hmm, I'm not quite sure I see the parallels. Can you elaborate?


Well the Templars of our world, were knights for the church, basically. The Templars in DA is an order for the chantry. Kind of the same deal. Do a quick reading on the Templars of our world and you'll start to see some simular stuff. From the outfits and vows, right down to whom they received their orders from.

Then there's the way the Templars of our world came to an end. By the church, and I believe the Italian leader of the day (don't quote me on that) Which I have a feeling might happen in DA as well. The Chantry might not like it if the Templar Order discovered they didn't need Lyrium...or if they became too much for the Chantry to control.

And I believe there was a 'special' section of Templars in the 1500s that did do some 'witch' hunting.

Oh wow. I'd never read about the demise of the Templars before. Some interesting inspiration there... check out this part from the Knights Templar wikipedia page:

" The Templars were charged with numerous offences (including apostasy, idolatry, heresy, obscene rituals and homosexuality, financial corruption and fraud, and secrecy). Many of the accused confessed to these charges under torture, and these confessions, even though obtained under duress, caused a scandal in Paris. ... Pope Clement called for papal hearings to determine the Templars' guilt or innocence, and once freed of the Inquisitors' torture, many Templars recanted their confessions. "

Wow. That's one way to not have the Inquisition and the templars on the same side... :?

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Thank you, my loves! =D Tweets and facebook msgs are all welcome. =) I changed my name to Seven ofNine, just in case anyone doesn't know where I am and wants to find me.

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LolaLei wrote...

VampOrchid wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I know they framed and subsequently killed all the real life Templars when they weren't needed any longer. Something like that could be interesting in DA3.

... So long as they don't kill Cullen.


Maybe that's why he has the change of uniform. Breaking away from the Chantry and owning their own place in the world.


That's something that puzzles me about his survey leak concept art. If it's legit, then he's pretty much wearing what looks regular "everyman" armor, yet his little skirty/flappy bits shows the Templar insignia on it. Now, is that how all the Orlesian Templars dress (Which contradicts the concept art of Orlais which shows Templars wearing the same sort of uniform as the Kirkwall ones), is he now a rebelled Templar, thus not wearing the Chantry provided uniform anymore? Alternative did the rebelled Templars decide to keep the uniform, thus him not wearing it any longer because he remains Divine loyal?

... Or perhaps he's wearing special companion armor, thus not wearing his fully uniform since he won't be "on duty" but is still wearing the Templar insignia just to show that he is one?

If I had my druthers, I'd probably lean toward your final suggestion, that that's his "off duty" outfit. BUT one thought I just had... so often we hear things like, "Seekers don't have a uniform" and that the Seeker "logo" is really just the Chantry logo + the eye. So here's an idea: Perhaps concept!Cullen's sword on his flappy bits is just a Chantry symbol, not strictly a templar symbol?? (yeah, I know, a stretch) Maybe he looks different because, indeed, he is still Chantry loyal, so gets an andrastean flaming sword, but no militaristic uniform, because he didn't follow the separated Order?

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R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

VampOrchid wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I know they framed and subsequently killed all the real life Templars when they weren't needed any longer. Something like that could be interesting in DA3.

... So long as they don't kill Cullen.


Maybe that's why he has the change of uniform. Breaking away from the Chantry and owning their own place in the world.


That's something that puzzles me about his survey leak concept art. If it's legit, then he's pretty much wearing what looks regular "everyman" armor, yet his little skirty/flappy bits shows the Templar insignia on it. Now, is that how all the Orlesian Templars dress (Which contradicts the concept art of Orlais which shows Templars wearing the same sort of uniform as the Kirkwall ones), is he now a rebelled Templar, thus not wearing the Chantry provided uniform anymore? Alternative did the rebelled Templars decide to keep the uniform, thus him not wearing it any longer because he remains Divine loyal?

... Or perhaps he's wearing special companion armor, thus not wearing his fully uniform since he won't be "on duty" but is still wearing the Templar insignia just to show that he is one?

If I had my druthers, I'd probably lean toward your final suggestion, that that's his "off duty" outfit. BUT one thought I just had... so often we hear things like, "Seekers don't have a uniform" and that the Seeker "logo" is really just the Chantry logo + the eye. So here's an idea: Perhaps concept!Cullen's sword on his flappy bits is just a Chantry symbol, not strictly a templar symbol?? (yeah, I know, a stretch) Maybe he looks different because, indeed, he is still Chantry loyal, so gets an andrastean flaming sword, but no militaristic uniform, because he didn't follow the separated Order?


Oooo, maybe!

I mean, I'd presume that the Rebelled Templars wouldn't want to use a symbol associated with the Chantry and since it seems that most of the Templars did rebel, there's no real need for the Divine-loyal ones to wear a specific uniform currently, so they just have the insignia on them somewhere instead, just to show theor support for the Divine.

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LolaLei wrote...

VampOrchid wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I know they framed and subsequently killed all the real life Templars when they weren't needed any longer. Something like that could be interesting in DA3.

... So long as they don't kill Cullen.


Maybe that's why he has the change of uniform. Breaking away from the Chantry and owning their own place in the world.


That's something that puzzles me about his survey leak concept art. If it's legit, then he's pretty much wearing what looks regular "everyman" armor, yet his little skirty/flappy bits shows the Templar insignia on it. Now, is that how all the Orlesian Templars dress (Which contradicts the concept art of Orlais which shows Templars wearing the same sort of uniform as the Kirkwall ones), is he now a rebelled Templar, thus not wearing the Chantry provided uniform anymore? Alternative did the rebelled Templars decide to keep the uniform, thus him not wearing it any longer because he remains Divine loyal?

... Or perhaps he's wearing special companion armor, thus not wearing his fully uniform since he won't be "on duty" but is still wearing the Templar insignia just to show that he is one?


now if he is wearing companion armor, I think it is hella cool. But you raise some good questions. If the leak is correct then I can either assume 1) it is a new revamped templar amor   2) he is a rogue templar, standing up for what he believes templars should be  3) companion armor

personally I want the latter ;) mwahahaha  

But I wondered that myself when I first saw it. It doesn't look like the normal so I am now assuming it is not the "assigned" templar amor unless they revamped it. So maybe he has taken leave from the Order? Or maybe he left it all together but still assumes Templar ideals?  hmmm

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LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

VampOrchid wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I know they framed and subsequently killed all the real life Templars when they weren't needed any longer. Something like that could be interesting in DA3.

... So long as they don't kill Cullen.


Maybe that's why he has the change of uniform. Breaking away from the Chantry and owning their own place in the world.


That's something that puzzles me about his survey leak concept art. If it's legit, then he's pretty much wearing what looks regular "everyman" armor, yet his little skirty/flappy bits shows the Templar insignia on it. Now, is that how all the Orlesian Templars dress (Which contradicts the concept art of Orlais which shows Templars wearing the same sort of uniform as the Kirkwall ones), is he now a rebelled Templar, thus not wearing the Chantry provided uniform anymore? Alternative did the rebelled Templars decide to keep the uniform, thus him not wearing it any longer because he remains Divine loyal?

... Or perhaps he's wearing special companion armor, thus not wearing his fully uniform since he won't be "on duty" but is still wearing the Templar insignia just to show that he is one?

If I had my druthers, I'd probably lean toward your final suggestion, that that's his "off duty" outfit. BUT one thought I just had... so often we hear things like, "Seekers don't have a uniform" and that the Seeker "logo" is really just the Chantry logo + the eye. So here's an idea: Perhaps concept!Cullen's sword on his flappy bits is just a Chantry symbol, not strictly a templar symbol?? (yeah, I know, a stretch) Maybe he looks different because, indeed, he is still Chantry loyal, so gets an andrastean flaming sword, but no militaristic uniform, because he didn't follow the separated Order?


Oooo, maybe!

I mean, I'd presume that the Rebelled Templars wouldn't want to use a symbol associated with the Chantry and since it seems that most of the Templars did rebel, there's no real need for the Divine-loyal ones to wear a specific uniform currently, so they just have the insignia on them somewhere instead, just to show theor support for the Divine.

Oh man. My brain hurts thinking about this. Good point. If the Order no longer serves the Chantry, would they adopt its iconography?  Hmm.... I don't know. I suppose no longer being under the Chantry's authority doesn't stop them from being Andrastean, right?  The original Inquisition was Andrastean after all, which is why they joined forces. Plus, their original logo, if the Inquisition heraldry file in DA2 is to be believed, was very Andrastean (Maker's sun, Andraste's flaming sword, eye of truth). On the other hand, they might want to distinguish themselves in some way, so could use a new logo/uniform to do that... 

Gah... too many open questions!:crying:

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where is this new 'leaked' picy

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Demarco09 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

VampOrchid wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I know they framed and subsequently killed all the real life Templars when they weren't needed any longer. Something like that could be interesting in DA3.

... So long as they don't kill Cullen.


Maybe that's why he has the change of uniform. Breaking away from the Chantry and owning their own place in the world.


That's something that puzzles me about his survey leak concept art. If it's legit, then he's pretty much wearing what looks regular "everyman" armor, yet his little skirty/flappy bits shows the Templar insignia on it. Now, is that how all the Orlesian Templars dress (Which contradicts the concept art of Orlais which shows Templars wearing the same sort of uniform as the Kirkwall ones), is he now a rebelled Templar, thus not wearing the Chantry provided uniform anymore? Alternative did the rebelled Templars decide to keep the uniform, thus him not wearing it any longer because he remains Divine loyal?

... Or perhaps he's wearing special companion armor, thus not wearing his fully uniform since he won't be "on duty" but is still wearing the Templar insignia just to show that he is one?


now if he is wearing companion armor, I think it is hella cool. But you raise some good questions. If the leak is correct then I can either assume 1) it is a new revamped templar amor   2) he is a rogue templar, standing up for what he believes templars should be  3) companion armor

personally I want the latter ;) mwahahaha  

But I wondered that myself when I first saw it. It doesn't look like the normal so I am now assuming it is not the "assigned" templar amor unless they revamped it. So maybe he has taken leave from the Order? Or maybe he left it all together but still assumes Templar ideals?  hmmm


Yeah, it doesn't look very uniform-ish at all.

It looks like he's just taken a basic warrior armour chestplate, then thrown a bunch of fur and fancy flappy tabards over a pair of lack light armoured trousers and boots. It definitely looks like a companion outfit, it's too personalised to be something that anyone old npc might show up wearing.

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evil_blond_goth wrote...

where is this new 'leaked' picy


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R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

VampOrchid wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I know they framed and subsequently killed all the real life Templars when they weren't needed any longer. Something like that could be interesting in DA3.

... So long as they don't kill Cullen.


Maybe that's why he has the change of uniform. Breaking away from the Chantry and owning their own place in the world.


That's something that puzzles me about his survey leak concept art. If it's legit, then he's pretty much wearing what looks regular "everyman" armor, yet his little skirty/flappy bits shows the Templar insignia on it. Now, is that how all the Orlesian Templars dress (Which contradicts the concept art of Orlais which shows Templars wearing the same sort of uniform as the Kirkwall ones), is he now a rebelled Templar, thus not wearing the Chantry provided uniform anymore? Alternative did the rebelled Templars decide to keep the uniform, thus him not wearing it any longer because he remains Divine loyal?

... Or perhaps he's wearing special companion armor, thus not wearing his fully uniform since he won't be "on duty" but is still wearing the Templar insignia just to show that he is one?

If I had my druthers, I'd probably lean toward your final suggestion, that that's his "off duty" outfit. BUT one thought I just had... so often we hear things like, "Seekers don't have a uniform" and that the Seeker "logo" is really just the Chantry logo + the eye. So here's an idea: Perhaps concept!Cullen's sword on his flappy bits is just a Chantry symbol, not strictly a templar symbol?? (yeah, I know, a stretch) Maybe he looks different because, indeed, he is still Chantry loyal, so gets an andrastean flaming sword, but no militaristic uniform, because he didn't follow the separated Order?


Oooo, maybe!

I mean, I'd presume that the Rebelled Templars wouldn't want to use a symbol associated with the Chantry and since it seems that most of the Templars did rebel, there's no real need for the Divine-loyal ones to wear a specific uniform currently, so they just have the insignia on them somewhere instead, just to show theor support for the Divine.

Oh man. My brain hurts thinking about this. Good point. If the Order no longer serves the Chantry, would they adopt its iconography?  Hmm.... I don't know. I suppose no longer being under the Chantry's authority doesn't stop them from being Andrastean, right?  The original Inquisition was Andrastean after all, which is why they joined forces. Plus, their original logo, if the Inquisition heraldry file in DA2 is to be believed, was very Andrastean (Maker's sun, Andraste's flaming sword, eye of truth). On the other hand, they might want to distinguish themselves in some way, so could use a new logo/uniform to do that... 

Gah... too many open questions!:crying:


If I hadn't seen the survey leak then I would've presumed that the rebelled Templars would've reclaimed their Inquisitor symbol.