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#41901
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LolaLei wrote...

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where is this new 'leaked' picy


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Second row, three across.



mmmmm he looks good.  just saying.....:whistle:



never gets old... that pic..

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LolaLei wrote...

evil_blond_goth wrote...

where is this new 'leaked' picy


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Second row, three across.

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LolaLei wrote...

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Oh man. My brain hurts thinking about this. Good point. If the Order no longer serves the Chantry, would they adopt its iconography?  Hmm.... I don't know. I suppose no longer being under the Chantry's authority doesn't stop them from being Andrastean, right?  The original Inquisition was Andrastean after all, which is why they joined forces. Plus, their original logo, if the Inquisition heraldry file in DA2 is to be believed, was very Andrastean (Maker's sun, Andraste's flaming sword, eye of truth). On the other hand, they might want to distinguish themselves in some way, so could use a new logo/uniform to do that... 

Gah... too many open questions!:crying:


If I hadn't seen the survey leak then I would've presumed that the rebelled Templars would've reclaimed their Inquisitor symbol.

LOL I know! You know... this makes me start to think that somehow we're interpreting all the dev comments on the Inquisition wrongly. That there's more connection between them than we think and we got snowed by some very careful semantics.

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#41904
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Demarco09 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

evil_blond_goth wrote...

where is this new 'leaked' picy


http://www.pcgamesn....onage3comps.jpg

Second row, three across.



mmmmm he looks good.  just saying.....:whistle:



never gets old... that pic..


I'm not keen on the fur, but the rest of it is cool. I wouldn't mind seeing him in light armour, or a casual outfit.

... (or his birthday suit!) :lol:

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LolaLei wrote...

Demarco09 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

evil_blond_goth wrote...

where is this new 'leaked' picy


http://www.pcgamesn....onage3comps.jpg

Second row, three across.



mmmmm he looks good.  just saying.....:whistle:



never gets old... that pic..


I'm not keen on the fur, but the rest of it is cool. I wouldn't mind seeing him in light armour, or a casual outfit.

... (or his birthday suit!) :lol:


I second this motion!:devil:

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R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Oh man. My brain hurts thinking about this. Good point. If the Order no longer serves the Chantry, would they adopt its iconography?  Hmm.... I don't know. I suppose no longer being under the Chantry's authority doesn't stop them from being Andrastean, right?  The original Inquisition was Andrastean after all, which is why they joined forces. Plus, their original logo, if the Inquisition heraldry file in DA2 is to be believed, was very Andrastean (Maker's sun, Andraste's flaming sword, eye of truth). On the other hand, they might want to distinguish themselves in some way, so could use a new logo/uniform to do that... 

Gah... too many open questions!:crying:


If I hadn't seen the survey leak then I would've presumed that the rebelled Templars would've reclaimed their Inquisitor symbol.

LOL I know! You know... this makes me start to think that somehow we're interpreting all the dev comments on the Inquisition wrongly. That there's more connection between them than we think and we got snowed by some very careful semantics.


I've been wondering this too. I mean, we could be missing something really obvious here. Mark Darrah said that the Templars and the Inquisition weren't related, but in the same breath also said that they are...

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LolaLei wrote...

evil_blond_goth wrote...

where is this new 'leaked' picy


http://www.pcgamesn....onage3comps.jpg

Second row, three across.

Ta muchly

#41908
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LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Oh man. My brain hurts thinking about this. Good point. If the Order no longer serves the Chantry, would they adopt its iconography?  Hmm.... I don't know. I suppose no longer being under the Chantry's authority doesn't stop them from being Andrastean, right?  The original Inquisition was Andrastean after all, which is why they joined forces. Plus, their original logo, if the Inquisition heraldry file in DA2 is to be believed, was very Andrastean (Maker's sun, Andraste's flaming sword, eye of truth). On the other hand, they might want to distinguish themselves in some way, so could use a new logo/uniform to do that... 

Gah... too many open questions!:crying:


If I hadn't seen the survey leak then I would've presumed that the rebelled Templars would've reclaimed their Inquisitor symbol.

LOL I know! You know... this makes me start to think that somehow we're interpreting all the dev comments on the Inquisition wrongly. That there's more connection between them than we think and we got snowed by some very careful semantics.


I've been wondering this too. I mean, we could be missing something really obvious here. Mark Darrah said that the Templars and the Inquisition weren't related, but in the same breath also said that they are...

I know. But then didn't he/they also say we wouldn't have to be part of the templars, or part of the Chantry. :huh: Maybe the whole Templar Order splinters into factions, one of them being the Inquisition. But it's no longer TECHNICALLY the templars.

#41909
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R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Oh man. My brain hurts thinking about this. Good point. If the Order no longer serves the Chantry, would they adopt its iconography?  Hmm.... I don't know. I suppose no longer being under the Chantry's authority doesn't stop them from being Andrastean, right?  The original Inquisition was Andrastean after all, which is why they joined forces. Plus, their original logo, if the Inquisition heraldry file in DA2 is to be believed, was very Andrastean (Maker's sun, Andraste's flaming sword, eye of truth). On the other hand, they might want to distinguish themselves in some way, so could use a new logo/uniform to do that... 

Gah... too many open questions!:crying:


If I hadn't seen the survey leak then I would've presumed that the rebelled Templars would've reclaimed their Inquisitor symbol.

LOL I know! You know... this makes me start to think that somehow we're interpreting all the dev comments on the Inquisition wrongly. That there's more connection between them than we think and we got snowed by some very careful semantics.


I've been wondering this too. I mean, we could be missing something really obvious here. Mark Darrah said that the Templars and the Inquisition weren't related, but in the same breath also said that they are...

I know. But then didn't he/they also say we wouldn't have to be part of the templars, or part of the Chantry. :huh: Maybe the whole Templar Order splinters into factions, one of them being the Inquisition. But it's no longer TECHNICALLY the templars.


Maybe, although that'll still be too pro-Templar for a lot of people. Plus, that'll mean it's still Chantry based to some degree and they said we wouldn't be forced to work for them.

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LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Oh man. My brain hurts thinking about this. Good point. If the Order no longer serves the Chantry, would they adopt its iconography?  Hmm.... I don't know. I suppose no longer being under the Chantry's authority doesn't stop them from being Andrastean, right?  The original Inquisition was Andrastean after all, which is why they joined forces. Plus, their original logo, if the Inquisition heraldry file in DA2 is to be believed, was very Andrastean (Maker's sun, Andraste's flaming sword, eye of truth). On the other hand, they might want to distinguish themselves in some way, so could use a new logo/uniform to do that... 

Gah... too many open questions!:crying:


If I hadn't seen the survey leak then I would've presumed that the rebelled Templars would've reclaimed their Inquisitor symbol.

LOL I know! You know... this makes me start to think that somehow we're interpreting all the dev comments on the Inquisition wrongly. That there's more connection between them than we think and we got snowed by some very careful semantics.


I've been wondering this too. I mean, we could be missing something really obvious here. Mark Darrah said that the Templars and the Inquisition weren't related, but in the same breath also said that they are...

I know. But then didn't he/they also say we wouldn't have to be part of the templars, or part of the Chantry. :huh: Maybe the whole Templar Order splinters into factions, one of them being the Inquisition. But it's no longer TECHNICALLY the templars.


Maybe, although that'll still be too pro-Templar for a lot of people. Plus, that'll mean it's still Chantry based to some degree and they said we wouldn't be forced to work for them.

Argh, okay, nevermind. Downshifting to my Cullen has taken on a second career theory, as a pool boy and part-time model after a talent scout saw his work on a templar recruitment poster. The rest, as they say, is history...  :P

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#41911
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I think we need to track down all the posts and tweets made about the Inquisitions role in DA3 and take another look.

... Problem is, where do we find them!

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LolaLei wrote...

VampOrchid wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I know they framed and subsequently killed all the real life Templars when they weren't needed any longer. Something like that could be interesting in DA3.

... So long as they don't kill Cullen.


Maybe that's why he has the change of uniform. Breaking away from the Chantry and owning their own place in the world.


That's something that puzzles me about his survey leak concept art. If it's legit, then he's pretty much wearing what looks regular "everyman" armor, yet his little skirty/flappy bits shows the Templar insignia on it. Now, is that how all the Orlesian Templars dress (Which contradicts the concept art of Orlais which shows Templars wearing the same sort of uniform as the Kirkwall ones), is he now a rebelled Templar, thus not wearing the Chantry provided uniform anymore? Alternative did the rebelled Templars decide to keep the uniform, thus him not wearing it any longer because he remains Divine loyal?

... Or perhaps he's wearing special companion armor, thus not wearing his fully uniform since he won't be "on duty" but is still wearing the Templar insignia just to show that he is one?


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Here's the thing...I think last year, they found papers in the Vatican, proving that the court was a little one sided. But that the Pope had the main guy, can't remember his name. Head of the Templar's on trial. Then, the Templar head honcho denied any of those rumors. He described their actual rituals, for the first time to the Pope. Then, the Pope set them all free. Not long after, because of the war that was going on, the Templars were then handed over to Spain. And they were all killed off. Rumor has it that some escaped and that their traditions carry on today.

As for the armor....I'm still thinking the the Order breaks away from the Chantry some how and they design their own uniform. Staying loyal to the Maker and Andraste, but in their own way. It would be interesting to hear if they slowly remove Lyrium, or if the senior members are stuck taking it still.

Like in my fanfic, I hope they use blood magic somehow to remove it from their blood stream. Makes an awesome contradiction.

#41913
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VampOrchid wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

VampOrchid wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I know they framed and subsequently killed all the real life Templars when they weren't needed any longer. Something like that could be interesting in DA3.

... So long as they don't kill Cullen.


Maybe that's why he has the change of uniform. Breaking away from the Chantry and owning their own place in the world.


That's something that puzzles me about his survey leak concept art. If it's legit, then he's pretty much wearing what looks regular "everyman" armor, yet his little skirty/flappy bits shows the Templar insignia on it. Now, is that how all the Orlesian Templars dress (Which contradicts the concept art of Orlais which shows Templars wearing the same sort of uniform as the Kirkwall ones), is he now a rebelled Templar, thus not wearing the Chantry provided uniform anymore? Alternative did the rebelled Templars decide to keep the uniform, thus him not wearing it any longer because he remains Divine loyal?

... Or perhaps he's wearing special companion armor, thus not wearing his fully uniform since he won't be "on duty" but is still wearing the Templar insignia just to show that he is one?


R2
Here's the thing...I think last year, they found papers in the Vatican, proving that the court was a little one sided. But that the Pope had the main guy, can't remember his name. Head of the Templar's on trial. Then, the Templar head honcho denied any of those rumors. He described their actual rituals, for the first time to the Pope. Then, the Pope set them all free. Not long after, because of the war that was going on, the Templars were then handed over to Spain. And they were all killed off. Rumor has it that some escaped and that their traditions carry on today.

As for the armor....I'm still thinking the the Order breaks away from the Chantry some how and they design their own uniform. Staying loyal to the Maker and Andraste, but in their own way. It would be interesting to hear if they slowly remove Lyrium, or if the senior members are stuck taking it still.

Like in my fanfic, I hope they use blood magic somehow to remove it from their blood stream. Makes an awesome contradiction.


I bet the rebelled Templars end up taking red lyrium... or that could just be wishful thinking, lol. :lol:

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http://museumsecrets...php?o=96&pmo=57

Want to more about the Templars? Watch this...

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probably old news, (at lest 14 hours) but I was scanning my Tweets and Stephen Fry mentioned that some friend of his, I think the guys name is Greg Ellis or something, is participating in the Nautica South Beach Triathlon to raise funds for St. Jude's hospital
http://fundraising.s...onal&fr_id=3870

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emeraldtrader wrote...

probably old news, (at lest 14 hours) but I was scanning my Tweets and Stephen Fry mentioned that some friend of his, I think the guys name is Greg Ellis or something, is participating in the Nautica South Beach Triathlon to raise funds for St. Jude's hospital
http://fundraising.s...onal&fr_id=3870


Yeah, that's Greg Ellis: Cullen's voice actor! He does a lot of stuff for charity. <3

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#41917
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LolaLei wrote...

VampOrchid wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

VampOrchid wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I know they framed and subsequently killed all the real life Templars when they weren't needed any longer. Something like that could be interesting in DA3.

... So long as they don't kill Cullen.


Maybe that's why he has the change of uniform. Breaking away from the Chantry and owning their own place in the world.


That's something that puzzles me about his survey leak concept art. If it's legit, then he's pretty much wearing what looks regular "everyman" armor, yet his little skirty/flappy bits shows the Templar insignia on it. Now, is that how all the Orlesian Templars dress (Which contradicts the concept art of Orlais which shows Templars wearing the same sort of uniform as the Kirkwall ones), is he now a rebelled Templar, thus not wearing the Chantry provided uniform anymore? Alternative did the rebelled Templars decide to keep the uniform, thus him not wearing it any longer because he remains Divine loyal?

... Or perhaps he's wearing special companion armor, thus not wearing his fully uniform since he won't be "on duty" but is still wearing the Templar insignia just to show that he is one?


R2
Here's the thing...I think last year, they found papers in the Vatican, proving that the court was a little one sided. But that the Pope had the main guy, can't remember his name. Head of the Templar's on trial. Then, the Templar head honcho denied any of those rumors. He described their actual rituals, for the first time to the Pope. Then, the Pope set them all free. Not long after, because of the war that was going on, the Templars were then handed over to Spain. And they were all killed off. Rumor has it that some escaped and that their traditions carry on today.

As for the armor....I'm still thinking the the Order breaks away from the Chantry some how and they design their own uniform. Staying loyal to the Maker and Andraste, but in their own way. It would be interesting to hear if they slowly remove Lyrium, or if the senior members are stuck taking it still.

Like in my fanfic, I hope they use blood magic somehow to remove it from their blood stream. Makes an awesome contradiction.


I bet the rebelled Templars end up taking red lyrium... or that could just be wishful thinking, lol. :lol:

How interesting would it be if they set themselves up in the red lyrium biz, it becomes the new street crack, and that's how they fund their newly independent operation without all the Chantry tithes.

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VampOrchid wrote...

R2
Here's the thing...I think last year, they found papers in the Vatican, proving that the court was a little one sided. But that the Pope had the main guy, can't remember his name. Head of the Templar's on trial. Then, the Templar head honcho denied any of those rumors. He described their actual rituals, for the first time to the Pope. Then, the Pope set them all free. Not long after, because of the war that was going on, the Templars were then handed over to Spain. And they were all killed off. Rumor has it that some escaped and that their traditions carry on today.

As for the armor....I'm still thinking the the Order breaks away from the Chantry some how and they design their own uniform. Staying loyal to the Maker and Andraste, but in their own way. It would be interesting to hear if they slowly remove Lyrium, or if the senior members are stuck taking it still.

Like in my fanfic, I hope they use blood magic somehow to remove it from their blood stream. Makes an awesome contradiction.


Yeah, I read a little of that on the wiki. It sounds like a lot of juicy he said, she said, along with some torture-induced confessions. A situation ripe for intrigue!

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I'm half expecting something like that to happen. Either some Dwarves end up selling it to the Templars via a 3rd party, or the Templars go and find it themselves and end up taking it. Obviously it would take a while to drive them insane since it's not the red lyrium idol, and they'd be taking small doses every few weeks. But it would make them more formidable opponents... before they blew up or whatever.

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LolaLei wrote...

I'm half expecting something like that to happen. Either some Dwarves end up selling it to the Templars via a 3rd party, or the Templars go and find it themselves and end up taking it Obviously it would take a while to drive them insane since it's not the red lyrium idol, and they'd be taking small doses every few weeks. But it would make them more formidable opponents... before they blew up or whatever.

Right!  And, they could always refine it so it's not as potent, and say things like, "Oh, what happened to Meredith will never  happen to us! We've done x, y, z, to make sure that doesn't happen. Harumph."

Heh heh. We ned to start cataloguing our hare brained ideas.

Random Idea #238: After a red lyrium overdose, Cullen mysteriously recovers, but acts strangely. Later we discover that he thinks he's the Maker, returned to his children, and he's looking for his Andraste... ;)

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I'm 99% sure that Cullen will be one of the Divine loyal Templars. How that happens, however, will be something he'll need to explain.

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Oh I'm not sure Cullen 's going to be pro Divine.
We already have Cassandra and Leliana as the Divine's cheerleaders.
Somebody needs to be angry at the Chantry !
Plus the fox pelt thing screams "rebel rebel " to me.
I don't know I imagine Cullen being extremely frustrated by the whole thing ...
Like "hey guys guess what?after years of killing mages , the divine now want us to hug them..."
...and then Cullen killed a cute bunny in a fit of anger and wore it as a reminder that from now on he's his own man.

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Reznore57 wrote...

Oh I'm not sure Cullen 's going to be pro Divine.
We already have Cassandra and Leliana as the Divine's cheerleaders.
Somebody needs to be angry at the Chantry !
Plus the fox pelt thing screams "rebel rebel " to me.
I don't know I imagine Cullen being extremely frustrated by the whole thing ...
Like "hey guys guess what?after years of killing mages , the divine now want us to hug them..."
...and then Cullen killed a cute bunny in a fit of anger and wore it as a reminder that from now on he's his own man.


The Cassandra/Leliana being pro-Divine is a good point, although I don't think Leliana is gonna play a massive part in DA3 beyond a cameo again, so she doesn't really count because she likely won't be a companion.

So, if he isn't a Divine loyal Templar then he would have either left the Order altogether (which I don't see him doing), or he's been locked away for who knows how many years. I don't think he'll be part of the rebelled Templars though, unless he's being a sleeper agent for the Divine or something.

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LolaLei wrote...

I'm half expecting something like that to happen. Either some Dwarves end up selling it to the Templars via a 3rd party, or the Templars go and find it themselves and end up taking it. Obviously it would take a while to drive them insane since it's not the red lyrium idol, and they'd be taking small doses every few weeks. But it would make them more formidable opponents... before they blew up or whatever.


Maybe that's what Kal-Sharok is up to? It might be one of the suspect things they've had to do since they were cut off from Orzammar? I mean for all we know the city is infused with red lyrium and the templars go there in the hopes of finding a supply? They might even make an expedition (wrong word) to create a new way for them to reach Kal-Sharok via the surface.

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Reznore57 wrote...

Oh I'm not sure Cullen 's going to be pro Divine.
We already have Cassandra and Leliana as the Divine's cheerleaders.
Somebody needs to be angry at the Chantry !
Plus the fox pelt thing screams "rebel rebel " to me.
I don't know I imagine Cullen being extremely frustrated by the whole thing ...
Like "hey guys guess what?after years of killing mages , the divine now want us to hug them..."
...and then Cullen killed a cute bunny in a fit of anger and wore it as a reminder that from now on he's his own man.


Yeah that was my first thought when I saw the concept art, that he's not loyal to either group and is sort of being a ronin/rogue Templar, loyal only to the Maker and his own beliefs.

I like how he might be a mole for the Divine though. Darn you R2 ad your plot bunnies! lol!