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[LolaLei]

Oooo I like the idea of an awkward first kiss in full armor, in which he can't quite get in close enough to her to embrace her due to it, that would be very sweet. But so long as the armor is removed for the intimate moments then it's cool.

If I'm honest, I'm kinda hoping his companion armor will have trousers rather than a skirt, kinda like Meredith's where it had a half skirt on top but trousers underneath.

Completely off topic for a moment, I've just found the best picture ever:

[brushyourteeth]

LolaLei wrote...

If I'm honest, I'm kinda hoping his companion armor will have trousers rather than a skirt, kinda like Meredith's where it had a half skirt on top but trousers underneath.

Aw, but a skirt makes things so much easier!

[LolaLei]

brushyourteeth wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

If I'm honest, I'm kinda hoping his companion armor will have trousers rather than a skirt, kinda like Meredith's where it had a half skirt on top but trousers underneath.

Aw, but a skirt makes things so much easier!

Sure, if we actually get to shag him! Otherwise he's just being a filthy tease!

Modifié par LolaLei, 08 juin 2012 - 08:30 .

[brushyourteeth]

LolaLei wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

If I'm honest, I'm kinda hoping his companion armor will have trousers rather than a skirt, kinda like Meredith's where it had a half skirt on top but trousers underneath.

Aw, but a skirt makes things so much easier!

Sure, if we actually get to shag him! Otherwise he's just being a filthy tease!

True, but we love that about him. Admit it.

[R2s Muse]

brushyourteeth wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

If I'm honest, I'm kinda hoping his companion armor will have trousers rather than a skirt, kinda like Meredith's where it had a half skirt on top but trousers underneath.

Aw, but a skirt makes things so much easier!

Sure, if we actually get to shag him! Otherwise he's just being a filthy tease!

True, but we love that about him. Admit it.

LOL... I sorely missed the skirts when watching Dawn of the Seeker. *sigh* I'd love to see him street garb, too, but there's something special about the templar uniform.

Love your imagined scene, though, Lola. Would love to see a mysterious reveal of Cullen that way in DA3.

also love the awkward first kiss with armor idea. It's something I think everytime I mod, since his armor is always sticking through her arm or somethinig. Ouch!

[brushyourteeth]

There's no denying that the best way for Cullen to go incognito would be to take off the huge plate armor and put on something dark and mysterious. It's so not his style..... yet, or as far as we know.

[LolaLei]

brushyourteeth wrote...

There's no denying that the best way for Cullen to go incognito would be to take off the huge plate armor and put on something dark and mysterious. It's so not his style..... yet, or as far as we know.

That's why it's clever, because you'd see this dark hooded figure and never in a million years think it would be Cullen. Hell, that could just be his introduction outfit and he'd later change into Templar armor later in the game after visiting the Divine or whatever.

[brushyourteeth]

LolaLei wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

There's no denying that the best way for Cullen to go incognito would be to take off the huge plate armor and put on something dark and mysterious. It's so not his style..... yet, or as far as we know.

That's why it's clever, because you'd see this dark hooded figure and never in a million years think it would be Cullen. Hell, that could just be his introduction outfit and he'd later change into Templar armor later in the game after visiting the Divine or whatever.

I like this. A lot. It shows that Cullen's a thinker.

What do you guys think about Cullen growing a beard? Mike Laidlaw promised that DAIII would have the most realistic beards of any game in history. Maybe he'd grow one out to help disguise his identity?

[LolaLei]

brushyourteeth wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

There's no denying that the best way for Cullen to go incognito would be to take off the huge plate armor and put on something dark and mysterious. It's so not his style..... yet, or as far as we know.

That's why it's clever, because you'd see this dark hooded figure and never in a million years think it would be Cullen. Hell, that could just be his introduction outfit and he'd later change into Templar armor later in the game after visiting the Divine or whatever.

I like this. A lot. It shows that Cullen's a thinker.

What do you guys think about Cullen growing a beard? Mike Laidlaw promised that DAIII would have the most realistic beards of any game in history. Maybe he'd grow one out to help disguise his identity?

Hm, so long as it isn't a really ugly beard. I actually kinda like the idea of him showing up with long surfer style hair looking really rugged and scruffy from just escaping prison after a few years captivity or something.

Oooo what if we come across some badly injured guy on our journeys who's in a total state covered in dirt and blood with long messy hair and huge beard (proper trampy looking) and our protagonist 'n' co take him back to camp to heal him etc (perhaps one or two of the b!tchy female companions could make a few snide comments about his appearance/smell.) When the injured guy is better he goes off to wash himself in the river and our character gets worried when he doesn't return after an hour or so and goes off to search for him with your selected companions. Just as you reach the river bank you see him wearing just a towel or pair of trousers but he's trimmed his beard and cut his hair short and suddenly you realise it's Cullen! *Que our female character and companions swooning* (especially the ones that insulted his appearance when we found him) then Cullen gets a bit embarrassed at being caught half naked and quickly throws a shirt on LOL! He then tells us he'd escaped imprisonment and had been held captive for several years.

It would be blatant fan service, but very tongue-in-cheek and a good way to take the ****** out of themselves and the fangirls reaction on the forums lol.

Modifié par LolaLei, 08 juin 2012 - 10:00 .

[brushyourteeth]

LolaLei wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...
What do you guys think about Cullen growing a beard? Mike Laidlaw promised that DAIII would have the most realistic beards of any game in history. Maybe he'd grow one out to help disguise his identity?

Hm, so long as it isn't a really ugly beard. I actually kinda like the idea of him showing up with long surfer style hair looking really rugged and scruffy from just escaping prison after a few years captivity or something.

Oooo what if we come across some badly injured guy on our journeys who's in a total state covered in dirt and blood with long messy hair and huge beard (proper trampy looking) and our protagonist 'n' co take him back to camp to heal him etc (perhaps one or two of the b!tchy female companions could make a few snide comments about his appearance/smell.) When the injured guy is better he goes off to wash himself in the river and our character gets worried when he doesn't return after an hour or so and goes off to search for him with your selected companions. Just as you reach the river bank you see him wearing just a towel or pair of trousers but he's trimmed his beard and cut his hair short and suddenly you realise it's Cullen! *Que our female character and companions swooning* (especially the ones that insulted his appearance when we found him) then Cullen gets a bit embarrassed at being caught half naked and quickly throws a shirt on LOL! He then tells us he'd escaped imprisonment and had been held captive for several years.

It would be blatant fan service, but very tongue-in-cheek and a good way to take the ****** out of themselves and the fangirls reaction on the forums lol.

LOL- this is priceless! Fanservice indeed, but oh so fun.

For some reason this reminded me of drunk Alistair at the Hanged Man in DAII, though it's not really related in any way. Anyway...

This made me think: you remember how our LI's in DAII had outfit alterations once they were "locked in", right? And also how we were able to alter the choices Leliana and Alistair made in DA:O by "hardening" them? Maybe scruffy prison-break or running-from-the-law Cullen could have longer hair and a tidy beard (not looking homeless) for most of the game, but at some point in the game your dialogue choices/companion quest would cause Cullen to question his current path. If you convince him to rejoin the Templars, the next time you speak to each other he shows up clean-shaven and back in his old Templar uniform. And that's when *BAM* you know that old DA:O Cullen is back.

[Dunquixote]

I haven't been working on my fanfiction for awhile now, and that has been bothering me constantly. The more I think about it, the more I wish I hadn't written those brief sex scenes >.< (yes, I'm still embarrassed about them) and I'm actually considering removing them. I don't think they're good enough or important enough to include even in a story about my character and Cullen. =/

[LolaLei]

brushyourteeth wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...
What do you guys think about Cullen growing a beard? Mike Laidlaw promised that DAIII would have the most realistic beards of any game in history. Maybe he'd grow one out to help disguise his identity?

Hm, so long as it isn't a really ugly beard. I actually kinda like the idea of him showing up with long surfer style hair looking really rugged and scruffy from just escaping prison after a few years captivity or something.

Oooo what if we come across some badly injured guy on our journeys who's in a total state covered in dirt and blood with long messy hair and huge beard (proper trampy looking) and our protagonist 'n' co take him back to camp to heal him etc (perhaps one or two of the b!tchy female companions could make a few snide comments about his appearance/smell.) When the injured guy is better he goes off to wash himself in the river and our character gets worried when he doesn't return after an hour or so and goes off to search for him with your selected companions. Just as you reach the river bank you see him wearing just a towel or pair of trousers but he's trimmed his beard and cut his hair short and suddenly you realise it's Cullen! *Que our female character and companions swooning* (especially the ones that insulted his appearance when we found him) then Cullen gets a bit embarrassed at being caught half naked and quickly throws a shirt on LOL! He then tells us he'd escaped imprisonment and had been held captive for several years.

It would be blatant fan service, but very tongue-in-cheek and a good way to take the ****** out of themselves and the fangirls reaction on the forums lol.

LOL- this is priceless! Fanservice indeed, but oh so fun.

For some reason this reminded me of drunk Alistair at the Hanged Man in DAII, though it's not really related in any way. Anyway...

This made me think: you remember how our LI's in DAII had outfit alterations once they were "locked in", right? And also how we were able to alter the choices Leliana and Alistair made in DA:O by "hardening" them? Maybe scruffy prison-break or running-from-the-law Cullen could have longer hair and a tidy beard (not looking homeless) for most of the game, but at some point in the game your dialogue choices/companion quest would cause Cullen to question his current path. If you convince him to rejoin the Templars, the next time you speak to each other he shows up clean-shaven and back in his old Templar uniform. And that's when *BAM* you know that old DA:O Cullen is back.

That would be a unique take on the companions appearance changing after being locked in/influenced wouldn't it! I'd also like to be able to "soften" a character as well as "harden" them.

If they do change the companions outfits slightly after being locked into a romance, I wonder what Cullen's would look like. I think it would be cool if perhaps his armor is slightly less heavy and restricting to suggest that he's let his defenses down (like you suggested earlier with his armor being his first defense to protect the "real" him.)

[LolaLei]

Dunquixote wrote...

I haven't been working on my fanfiction for awhile now, and that has been bothering me constantly. The more I think about it, the more I wish I hadn't written those brief sex scenes >.< (yes, I'm still embarrassed about them) and I'm actually considering removing them. I don't think they're good enough or important enough to include even in a story about my character and Cullen. =/

Aw, if you're feeling awkward about them then you should take them down. I haven't read those yet so I can't comment on them, but I'm sure they're fine!

[Dunquixote]

brushyourteeth wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

There's no denying that the best way for Cullen to go incognito would be to take off the huge plate armor and put on something dark and mysterious. It's so not his style..... yet, or as far as we know.

That's why it's clever, because you'd see this dark hooded figure and never in a million years think it would be Cullen. Hell, that could just be his introduction outfit and he'd later change into Templar armor later in the game after visiting the Divine or whatever.

I like this. A lot. It shows that Cullen's a thinker.

What do you guys think about Cullen growing a beard? Mike Laidlaw promised that DAIII would have the most realistic beards of any game in history. Maybe he'd grow one out to help disguise his identity?

I like what he has on his face now as it is .  That's the only type of "beard" I personally like.

[LolaLei]

Dunquixote wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

There's no denying that the best way for Cullen to go incognito would be to take off the huge plate armor and put on something dark and mysterious. It's so not his style..... yet, or as far as we know.

That's why it's clever, because you'd see this dark hooded figure and never in a million years think it would be Cullen. Hell, that could just be his introduction outfit and he'd later change into Templar armor later in the game after visiting the Divine or whatever.

I like this. A lot. It shows that Cullen's a thinker.

What do you guys think about Cullen growing a beard? Mike Laidlaw promised that DAIII would have the most realistic beards of any game in history. Maybe he'd grow one out to help disguise his identity?

I like what he has on his face now as it is .  That's the only type of "beard" I personally like.

What do you think of the following as an introduction to Cullen as a companion/LI in DA3:


We come across a badly injured guy on our journey who's in a total state covered in dirt and blood with long messy hair and huge beard (proper trampy looking) and our protagonist 'n' co take him back to camp to heal him etc (perhaps one or two of the b!tchy female companions could make a few snide comments about his appearance/smell.) When the injured guy is feeling better he goes off to wash himself in the river but our character gets worried when he doesn't return after an hour or so and goes off to search for him with your selected companions. Just as you reach the river bank you see him wearing just a towel or pair of trousers but he's trimmed his beard and cut his hair short and suddenly you realise it's Cullen! *Que our femalecharacter and companions swooning* (especially the ones that insulted his appearance when we found him) then Cullen gets a bit embarrassed at being caught half naked and quickly throws a shirt on LOL! He then tells us he'd escaped imprisonment and had been held captive for several years.

Modifié par LolaLei, 08 juin 2012 - 11:17 .

[LolaLei]

Another cool way to introduce him would be to have him turn up with a helmet on so we wouldn't know it was him until he took it off.

[vieralynn]

I've hardly been around for the past few weeks. Life has been busy with not very much internet time...

[quote]brushyourteeth wrote...

[quote]LolaLei wrote...

Ok, here's a new question:

If Cullen is a companion/LI in DA3, what sort of companion armor/outfit would you want him to wear? ... [/quote]

[/i]For me, Cullen will always need to be in heavy armor or no armor at all. I remember how weird it was in DAII to see Keran hanging out by the Hanged Man in Act 3 because he left the Templar Order... in leather armor! I almost didn't recognize him. It just didn't look right. Templars/Warriors would have a tough time fighting without heavy armor I think, because their general tactic is to charge straight into a bunch of enemies and trust their heavy plate to protect them while they engage as many of them as possible. Of course that's me thinking with my logical IRL life brain and not my "what would be coolest for a game?" brain.  Still, I don't think Cullen would look right in anything other than heavy armor... [/quote][/quote]

I'm seconding this. 

Cullen has spent at least a decade wearing heavy armor and learning how to make use of it appropriately during battle.  If in light armor, he would probably need to retrain himself and change his fighting style so I also think it is logical for him to remain in some kind of heavy armor although it doesn't need to be huge or have lots of spiky parts. 

And, yes, I also want to see our companions in normal clothing and dressed for combat.  So, for Cullen all of these are welcome:
- Heavy armor 
- Normal clothing  
- Nothing at all 

[quote]brushyourteeth wrote...
The thing is, Cullen does have 10 tons of armor between him and his friend/lover. It's a great metaphor for who he is, how he's been raised, and what his duty requires. The boy has a duty to the Maker (or at least he feels he does) and whether he's working with or against the Divine/the Templars/the mages/whoever that sense of duty is going to keep Cullen at arm's length from everyone else... at least for as long as his strength will allow him to do it. I don't see Cullen really having many good friends even within the Templar order. He's kind of a lone wolf, and that wall of metal between you and him is only the first layer to a protective shell he keeps around himself at all times.

Which, of course, is what will make it so amazing to see him (whether as a friend or lover) take down that emotional armor and relax into the warmth of your friendship. Seeing him in a regular tunic and breeches or nekkid in the bedroom would be a shocking and special physical representation of this simply because of the contrast with his usual guarded self and the implications of what this new unguardedness means - a Cullen transformed into someone who trusts, who loves, who lets others in.[/quote]

I think that sums him up perfectly.

Even though Cullen has a line during the Broken Circle quest that suggests he had friends in Ferelden's Circle and he thought of that place as home, once he's in Kirkwall, there is no sign of friendship or warmth between him and the other templars, or anyone else at all (unless you count his exchanges with Hawke). 

It seems like he has spent years in Kirkwall with much of the world kept at arm's length. 

Modifié par vieralynn, 08 juin 2012 - 11:55 .

[R2s Muse]

brushyourteeth wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

There's no denying that the best way for Cullen to go incognito would be to take off the huge plate armor and put on something dark and mysterious. It's so not his style..... yet, or as far as we know.

That's why it's clever, because you'd see this dark hooded figure and never in a million years think it would be Cullen. Hell, that could just be his introduction outfit and he'd later change into Templar armor later in the game after visiting the Divine or whatever.

I like this. A lot. It shows that Cullen's a thinker.

What do you guys think about Cullen growing a beard? Mike Laidlaw promised that DAIII would have the most realistic beards of any game in history. Maybe he'd grow one out to help disguise his identity?

I don't think I'd relish a beard in game. I'm still bummed about the promise of hottie Hawke in the DA2 trailer compared to in game.

That said... I like the idea of a beard as part of his transformation to/from his more regimented, clean cut self. I have an upcoming scene in my new fic where Hawke is going to shave it off for him... Ahem. Really looking forward...

[R2s Muse]

vieralynn wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...
The thing is, Cullen does have 10 tons of armor between him and his friend/lover. It's a great metaphor for who he is, how he's been raised, and what his duty requires. The boy has a duty to the Maker (or at least he feels he does) and whether he's working with or against the Divine/the Templars/the mages/whoever that sense of duty is going to keep Cullen at arm's length from everyone else... at least for as long as his strength will allow him to do it. I don't see Cullen really having many good friends even within the Templar order. He's kind of a lone wolf, and that wall of metal between you and him is only the first layer to a protective shell he keeps around himself at all times.

Which, of course, is what will make it so amazing to see him (whether as a friend or lover) take down that emotional armor and relax into the warmth of your friendship. Seeing him in a regular tunic and breeches or nekkid in the bedroom would be a shocking and special physical representation of this simply because of the contrast with his usual guarded self and the implications of what this new unguardedness means - a Cullen transformed into someone who trusts, who loves, who lets others in.

I think that sums him up perfectly.

Even though Cullen has a line during the Broken Circle quest that suggests he had friends in Ferelden's Circle and he thought of that place as home, once he's in Kirkwall, there is no sign of friendship or warmth between him and the other templars, or anyone else at all (unless you count his exchanges with Hawke). 

It seems like he has spent years in Kirkwall with much of the world kept at arm's length. 

Agree. I love the armor metaphor for his personal relationships. I also agree that he hasn't gotten very close with anyone since coming to Kirkwall. I see this both  as a function of his recovery. and the walls he would put up, as well as his new rank, which would put him well above anyone near his own age. Who's he gonna hang with? Meredith? (and no, just no...  DG has confirmed there was no hanky panky there, thankfully...).

[LolaLei]

LOL why do people ship Meredith and Cullen together? It never even crossed my mind when I was playing DA2 that their relationship was anything more than a professional one. Besides, Cullen would probably be absolutely terrified of the woman!

(I'm secretly hoping DG quashed Cullen/Meredith rumours because he has plans for him as a love interest in DA3 lol.)

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

LOL why do people ship Meredith and Cullen together? It never even crossed my mind when I was playing DA2 that their relationship was anything more than a professional one. Besides, Cullen would probably be absolutely terrified of the woman!

(I'm secretly hoping DG quashed Cullen/Meredith rumours because he has plans for him as a love interest in DA3 lol.)

It never would have occurred to me, either. But Galagraphia asked DG flat out on twitter, and his response was something like "no, why would u think that?"

[vieralynn]

Meredith could easily be old enough to be Cullen's mother. It was also be very problematic fraternization among the ranks. So, no, I don't see why anyone would think about Cullen/Meredith at any level. In the end, he's just another "stupid boy" as far as Meredith is concerned.

My headcanon is that Cullen leads a very lonely life in Kirkwall, that the older Templars resent reporting to this young Fereldan, and that the recruits think Cullen is strict and maybe a bit crazy ("don't hit me, ser!").

[Dunquixote]

LolaLei wrote...

LOL why do people ship Meredith and Cullen together? It never even crossed my mind when I was playing DA2 that their relationship was anything more than a professional one. Besides, Cullen would probably be absolutely terrified of the woman!

(I'm secretly hoping DG quashed Cullen/Meredith rumours because he has plans for him as a love interest in DA3 lol.)

That is a disturbing thought--almost as disturbing as making him available as a LI for a male character--no offense.

I have a question now.  In the codex entry for Cullen in DA 2, it said (according to DA wikia; I'm not in game to verify): "After Cullen returned to his duties, it became clear that he would go to any lengths to enforce the Chantry's rule. His zeal troubled Knight-Commander Greagoir, who feared it unwise to let Cullen watch over the men and women he deemed responsible for his torment." 

Remember how in the mage epilogue how -- if you side with the Templars (which my Warden had), that he would replace Greagoir as the Knight-Commander at the Circle, and would watch over the tower using fear?  I know it said Greagoir retired and became a brother of the Chantry for the remainder of his life...so, my question is...because he was transferred to Kirkwall sometime between 9:31 Dragon-- post-Blight and 9:33 Dragon -- Witch Hunt, does that mean Greagoir was still at the Circle Tower, but only as a brother immediately after the Archdemon was slain and sometime during the time Cullen remained in Ferelden, and had retained influence?

I imported my mage's story into DA 2, and since she had sided with the Templars... My intro to my first fanfiction is messed up because of this confusion.

Modifié par Dunquixote, 09 juin 2012 - 02:10 .

[LolaLei]

It's kinda confusing but basically Cullen's DA:O epilogues were retconned and changed. In the Witch Hunt DLC it is mentioned that he was instead sent away to recover and sort his head out. Then if you read his codex in DA2 it will say that after he was feeling more stable Gregoir sent him to work in Kirkwall as he felt it unwise to have Cullen stay in Ferelden Circle after what happened to him, Meredith was happy to take him on as his beliefs mirrored her own and she felt that he could influence the other Templars due to his first hand experiences with blood mages, which is how he got promoted through the ranks do quickly.

So presumably Gregoir is still in charge of the Templars at the Ferelden Circle.

Modifié par LolaLei, 09 juin 2012 - 03:54 .

[brushyourteeth]

I can kind of see a lonely Meredith making uncomfortable advances toward the Knight Commander and him putting up with her suggestiveness because, really, what else is he going to do? But nothing more than that.

Can't help you with your timeline, Lola - that epilogue never happened for me so I don't really have any experience with it.  If you PM one of the writers and explain that it's making it confusing for your fanfic they might be willing to help.

And if Cullen is a LI in DAIII he will definitely be available to both men and women. That's just a fact. Everybody has about two years (give or take) to get cool with it.

Modifié par brushyourteeth, 09 juin 2012 - 05:11 .