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[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

It's kinda confusing but basically Cullen's DA:O epilogues were retconned and changed. In the Witch Hunt DLC it is mentioned that he was instead sent away to recover and sort his head out. Then if you read his codex in DA2 it will say that after he was feeling more stable Gregoir sent him to work in Kirkwall as he felt it unwise to have Cullen stay in Ferelden Circle after what happened to him, Meredith was happy to take him on as his beliefs mirrored her own and she felt that he could influence the other Templars due to his first hand experiences with blood mages, which is how he got promoted through the ranks do quickly.

So presumably Gregoir is still in charge of the Templars at the Ferelden Circle.

This would be my assumption as well. My sense is that you should throw the DA:O epilogues out the window when it comes to Cullen, but the Witch Hunt events seem to have been developed around the time they were developing DA2 (since there are Kirkwall refs), so are more likely to fit. Cullen recooperating in Greenfell and then being sent to Kirkwall by Greagoir makes more sense to me.

In terms of timing, it's all botched up, so I'd say go with what works for  your story. Hawke meets Cullen in Act 1, i.e. 9:31, so ostensibly before the events of Witch Hunt, which I guess is like 2.5 yrs after the Blight? The women in Witch Hunt talk about him in the present tense as being in Greenfell, so this  is another discrepancy. Of course, they're also just gossiping, so it's not necessarily the word of the Maker. For that matter, all the epilogues and codexes are technically hearsay, as they come from individual letters and books and such.

brushyourteeth wrote...

I can kind of see a lonely Meredith making uncomfortable advances toward the Knight Commander and him putting up with her suggestiveness because, really, what else is he going to do? But nothing more than that.

Yeah, I think it's easy to think the worst of Meredith since she's in a power position over Cullen. Ahem. I mean, I suppose I'd be tempted to sexually harass him as well... :bandit:So I'm sure that's where the speculation came from. Just trying to spread the word that it ain't so.

And if Cullen is a LI in DAIII he will definitely be available to both men and women. That's just a fact. Everybody has about two years (give or take) to get cool with it.

Word.

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DA-Forbidden Love Gift by SweetCandyRain

Modifié par R2s Muse, 09 juin 2012 - 10:42 .

[MissRedZelda]

That Amell looks like Rhiamon. Galagraphia's PC.

And, and as for LI. I'm not sure about making Cullen bi. Giving that he only got jittery around a female Amell PC. I like how ME3 went about it, Making some characters strictly gay or lesbian (eg, Cortez and Traynor). And others either bi or straight. I hope to see some of that in DA3 :-)

[LolaLei]

I think it's plausible that he could be bisexual in DA3, but they'd need to explain it in a believable way for people not to complain (since he was so obsessed with the female Amell but not the male Amell.) So, for example, taking consideration into the fact that Cullen's head is probably still going to be all over the place and that he has little social skills or experiences outside of the Templar Order, if your protagonist is male then during the romantic pursuit his lines would still play out much the same as if the protagonist is female (confusion, sexual tension, the mage issue if you play as one etc) but you'd get some additional dialogue about how he's never experienced these feelings for a man before etc.

So it would be the case that if you play as a female protagonist he remains exclusively straight, with no interest in men whatsoever and falls desperately in love with her. BUT, if you play as a male protagonist, he just simply and innocently develops romantic feelings for your character that he hadn't expected, to whom he deeply admirers/respects and eventually comes to love. So essentially he's only ever "gay" for our male character, with no interest in any other males in Thedas lol.

I think the reason they didn't do that for Anders (even though we knew him already from DA:A and a lot of people presumed he was straight) was because he was a huge flirt, he was flirtly with pretty much everyone despite only mentioning fancying female characters, so it was perfectly reasonable for him to turn out to be bisexual. As for Fenris, we knew nothing about him prior to DA2 so he could swing either way and not have to explain it, Merrill was very innocent and loving so again it seemed plausible that she could easy fall for either gender and see no problem with it, we all knew Isabela was bisexual so that wasn't a surprise and Seb was straight because I guess he kinda had to be, what with the Chantry vows and stuff LOL!

Modifié par LolaLei, 09 juin 2012 - 01:54 .

[LolaLei]

MissRedZelda wrote...

That Amell looks like Rhiamon. Galagraphia's PC.

And, and as for LI. I'm not sure about making Cullen bi. Giving that he only got jittery around a female Amell PC. I like how ME3 went about it, Making some characters strictly gay or lesbian (eg, Cortez and Traynor). And others either bi or straight. I hope to see some of that in DA3 :-)

Well DG 'n' co really liked ME3 and will no doubt take ideas and inspiration from it, likely including the way they approached relationships... Maybe even including the odd NPC romance (Cortez and Traynor weren't full on companions.) If we're lucky they'll give our companions downtime between quests and little dates lol.

[R2s Muse]

MissRedZelda wrote...

That Amell looks like Rhiamon. Galagraphia's PC.

And, and as for LI. I'm not sure about making Cullen bi. Giving that he only got jittery around a female Amell PC. I like how ME3 went about it, Making some characters strictly gay or lesbian (eg, Cortez and Traynor). And others either bi or straight. I hope to see some of that in DA3 :-)

Yes it is Rhiamon and Obsession!Cullen. 

And I know there are whole threads dedicated to bi- vs. not and character development, so I'll just say that I hope anyone who wants to could romance him if he were a LI. I trust BW that they could make it work. 

[LolaLei]

R2s Muse wrote...

MissRedZelda wrote...

That Amell looks like Rhiamon. Galagraphia's PC.

And, and as for LI. I'm not sure about making Cullen bi. Giving that he only got jittery around a female Amell PC. I like how ME3 went about it, Making some characters strictly gay or lesbian (eg, Cortez and Traynor). And others either bi or straight. I hope to see some of that in DA3 :-)

Yes it is Rhiamon and Obsession!Cullen. 

And I know there are whole threads dedicated to bi- vs. not and character development, so I'll just say that I hope anyone who wants to could romance him if he were a LI. I trust BW that they could make it work. 

It shouldn't be too hard to come up with a plausible story should try decide to give a reason why he fancies a male protagonist.

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

It shouldn't be too hard to come up with a plausible story should try decide to give a reason why he fancies a male protagonist.

Agree. I think your idea above could work, for example. . Viva la romance-ution! Everyone's kissing everyone!

[LolaLei]

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

It shouldn't be too hard to come up with a plausible story should try decide to give a reason why he fancies a male protagonist.

Agree. I think your idea above could work, for example. . Viva la romance-ution! Everyone's kissing everyone!

Well, when in France!

[LolaLei]

I was just looking online at the DA2 concept art to get a rough idea of when they started releasing details to the public, to get an idea about when they might start releasing proper DA3 info, and I discovered that they were releasing DA2 concept drawings of companions 'n' stuff between 6 months to a year after releasing DA:O. So, DA2 came out in March 2011 and it's June 2012 now so it's already been 1 year and 3 months since it's release and all we've literally seen so far is the seeker/warden companion armor at PAX in April, so it certainly looks as though they are taking there time this time round (which is a good thing.)

I remember them advertising for new artists and writers about a week or so after DA2 came out and the fact that they've stopped working on DA2 dlc goes to show they are putting all their efforts into DA3. So based on all that, I think we will start seeing companion concept art/environment drawings and maybe the odd bit of cinematic teasers some time around the beginning of September, maybe later August (depending on the ME3 EC dlc release.)

... Of course, the lack of news despite it being in production for a while now could be due to the rumour that it's been postphoned so the team can help with SWTOR.

[vieralynn]

LolaLei wrote...
So it would be the case that if you play as a female protagonist he remains exclusively straight, with no interest in men whatsoever and falls desperately in love with her. BUT, if you play as a male protagonist, he just simply and innocently develops romantic feelings for your character that he hadn't expected, to whom he deeply admirers/respects and eventually comes to love. So essentially he's only ever "gay" for our male character, with no interest in any other males in Thedas lol.

THIS!   

This is a perfect way to provide freedom in player romances for a character who seems to be a canonically straight.  If BW did something like this and they wrote it right, it would be far too much fun and I would make both a fem PC and a male PC to romance him. <3<3<3

Speaking of such, has anyone seen the "Carnaval of Rust" Cullen/Anders fanvid?  

Modifié par vieralynn, 09 juin 2012 - 08:33 .

[vieralynn]

This page needs a thoughtful Cullen.

[Dunquixote]

brushyourteeth wrote...

I can kind of see a lonely Meredith making uncomfortable advances toward the Knight Commander and him putting up with her suggestiveness because, really, what else is he going to do? But nothing more than that.

Can't help you with your timeline, Lola - that epilogue never happened for me so I don't really have any experience with it.  If you PM one of the writers and explain that it's making it confusing for your fanfic they might be willing to help.

And if Cullen is a LI in DAIII he will definitely be available to both men and women. That's just a fact. Everybody has about two years (give or take) to get cool with it.

well, that just loses my support then... =|

Modifié par Dunquixote, 09 juin 2012 - 08:36 .

[Dunquixote]

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

It's kinda confusing but basically Cullen's DA:O epilogues were retconned and changed. In the Witch Hunt DLC it is mentioned that he was instead sent away to recover and sort his head out. Then if you read his codex in DA2 it will say that after he was feeling more stable Gregoir sent him to work in Kirkwall as he felt it unwise to have Cullen stay in Ferelden Circle after what happened to him, Meredith was happy to take him on as his beliefs mirrored her own and she felt that he could influence the other Templars due to his first hand experiences with blood mages, which is how he got promoted through the ranks do quickly.

So presumably Gregoir is still in charge of the Templars at the Ferelden Circle.

This would be my assumption as well. My sense is that you should throw the DA:O epilogues out the window when it comes to Cullen, but the Witch Hunt events seem to have been developed around the time they were developing DA2 (since there are Kirkwall refs), so are more likely to fit. Cullen recooperating in Greenfell and then being sent to Kirkwall by Greagoir makes more sense to me.

In terms of timing, it's all botched up, so I'd say go with what works for  your story. Hawke meets Cullen in Act 1, i.e. 9:31, so ostensibly before the events of Witch Hunt, which I guess is like 2.5 yrs after the Blight? The women in Witch Hunt talk about him in the present tense as being in Greenfell, so this  is another discrepancy. Of course, they're also just gossiping, so it's not necessarily the word of the Maker. For that matter, all the epilogues and codexes are technically hearsay, as they come from individual letters and books and such.

brushyourteeth wrote...

I can kind of see a lonely Meredith making uncomfortable advances toward the Knight Commander and him putting up with her suggestiveness because, really, what else is he going to do? But nothing more than that.

Yeah, I think it's easy to think the worst of Meredith since she's in a power position over Cullen. Ahem. I mean, I suppose I'd be tempted to sexually harass him as well... :bandit:So I'm sure that's where the speculation came from. Just trying to spread the word that it ain't so.

And if Cullen is a LI in DAIII he will definitely be available to both men and women. That's just a fact. Everybody has about two years (give or take) to get cool with it.

Word.

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DA-Forbidden Love Gift by SweetCandyRain

Do you think that it'd be okay to leave my intro to my first story, where I had him sent to Kirkwall weeks or months maybe after the Archdemon was slain?  Or should I change it to the following year 9:32 Dragon?

[LolaLei]

vieralynn wrote...

LolaLei wrote...
So it would be the case that if you play as a female protagonist he remains exclusively straight, with no interest in men whatsoever and falls desperately in love with her. BUT, if you play as a male protagonist, he just simply and innocently develops romantic feelings for your character that he hadn't expected, to whom he deeply admirers/respects and eventually comes to love. So essentially he's only ever "gay" for our male character, with no interest in any other males in Thedas lol.

THIS!   

This is a perfect way to provide freedom in player romances for a character who seems to be a canonically straight.  If BW did something like this and they wrote it right, it would be far too much fun and I would make both a fem PC and a male PC to romance him. <3<3<3

Speaking of such, has anyone seen the "Carnaval of Rust" Cullen/Anders fanvid?  

I've seen that before, I really like the video but I hate what they've done to Anders face LOL!

[LolaLei]

Dunquixote wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

I can kind of see a lonely Meredith making uncomfortable advances toward the Knight Commander and him putting up with her suggestiveness because, really, what else is he going to do? But nothing more than that.

Can't help you with your timeline, Lola - that epilogue never happened for me so I don't really have any experience with it.  If you PM one of the writers and explain that it's making it confusing for your fanfic they might be willing to help.

And if Cullen is a LI in DAIII he will definitely be available to both men and women. That's just a fact. Everybody has about two years (give or take) to get cool with it.

well, that just loses my support then... =|

LOL would you still play DA3 if they do make Cullen bisexual?

[vieralynn]

[quote]LolaLei wrote...

[quote]vieralynn wrote...

[quote]LolaLei wrote...

Speaking of such, has anyone seen the "Carnaval of Rust" Cullen/Anders fanvid?  
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I've seen that before, I really like the video but I hate what they've done to Anders face LOL!

[/quote]

Yes, I wish they had kept the default Anders for this...

[LolaLei]

This ones good, although the music intro ruins it a bit:

Modifié par LolaLei, 09 juin 2012 - 08:50 .

[vieralynn]

LolaLei wrote...

This ones good, although the music intro ruins it a bit:

Oh yes!  That one.  

(off to get thing done for the day...) 

[LolaLei]

I figured this might come in handy for anyone planning to draw Cullen on here anytime soon:



Damn he's pretty!

Modifié par LolaLei, 09 juin 2012 - 09:10 .

[LolaLei]

[vieralynn]

LolaLei wrote...

I figured this might come in handy for anyone planning to draw Cullen on here anytime soon:



Damn he's pretty!

Ooooh.  It looks like someone extracted his head morph and displayed in some other program? Toolkit, maybe?

I would love to have a series of these for art reference with a 3/4 view, a profile view, and a few others in between. 

[LolaLei]

Shouldn't be too hard to do, I think R2 fiddles around with toolkits and headswapping so she might be able to help you out.

[LolaLei]

Cullen day dreaming in his own little world whilst Fenris takes a ****** up the wall behind him. :-S



I wonder what he's thinking about?

Modifié par LolaLei, 09 juin 2012 - 10:08 .

[LolaLei]

Modifié par LolaLei, 09 juin 2012 - 10:23 .

[LolaLei]

The expression on his face in this picture looks like the realisation has just hit him that his world has just been shaken to it's core and everything he believed has once again gone down the Sh!tter lol. Poor baby:



:-(