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Looking at that picture of him in character creator with his neutral expression, he still has that haunted world-weary look about him, he has what I like to call "sad eyes." Or maybe it's because we know what he's been through.

... Gah, poor thing seeing that picture and knowing the sh!tty past DG 'n' co thought up for him makes me desperately want to romance the arse off him and give the guy a bit of happiness for once in his miserable existence. Look at his little puppy face, how could the DA team not want him as a companion/LI, he's got soooo much potential! ... Hm, I hope they don't age him too much in DA3, I'd like him to stay looking pretty much the same as he does now (except with nicer ears because DA2 ears are horrifying!)

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Oh wow, I like the 'double agent, only slept with you to get something' idea... Also not familiar with ME3, but I love the idea that the companions have their own lives and drama going on at the same time as the PC's main plot. I just... erm, I have no interest in a storyline that sets  you on a path to utterly destroy Cullen romantically in such a way. It just seems too cosmically unjust. Boy needs a happy ending.

Now that said...

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If we happened to dump Cullen in DA3 for some reason (heaven forbid!) What do you think his reaction would be? And how do you think he would feel on the inside?

If you did  have to dump him... and we all know we've had to do it numerous times to companions when we accidentally picked the wrong option, changed our mind on LIs, etc... I just see him  being terribly wounded on the inside, but stoic on the outside. I'd like to think that he's proven his mettle already with the challenges he's overcome, so he wouldn't lose it and go postal or anything. But, I could see it ruining him for any other relationships in the future.

I imagine it would take quite a bit for him to have lowered his defenses in the first place (esp if she's a mage! :o). So, then to get shut down...?  I think he'd  have an "I told you so, I should've known better" come-to-Andraste talk with himself. Then that would be it for him with romance. No second chances for her, or anyone, ever.


Yeah, that's pretty much what I think would happen too, unless you broke up with him due to his Templar duties (or he dumps you due to them.) I could see him coming back to you again towards the end (kinda like Fenris did) after having a eureka moment or something.

Heh, yeah, I think I got ninja'd while I'll was writing that. So, I agree, minus the begging part I mentioned above.

I could see him having a eureka moment... but more of a solemn "if we'd met in different times/circumstances," "before we die, know that I always loved you" kind of moment. Ala Sebastian before the final battle, or Bogart in Casablanca. I don't see him putting a big trip on you.

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R2s Muse wrote...

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However, if you broke up due to circumstance (like they can't be together anymore due to his Templar duties if you're a mage) I'd like to think he'd still carry a torch for the PC and give him/her wistful looks etc, perhaps even going as far as to take your character to one side and beg for him/her back towards the end of the game if he decides to throw caution to the wind or whatever... which would make for some poignant scenes, especially if the PC has moved onto someone else.

Hmm, I dunno. I could see him being heartbroken and bittersweet if it was circumstance keeping them apart. But I sort of see him being too proud to do something like this. Esp if you're with someone else. I imagine him letting himself love someone and be in a real relationship would be a big deal, so when it was over, I could see him having more of a "better to have loved and lost than to never have loved at all" fatalism.


That's a good point, he'd probably just make a few snide remarks if the PC moved onto someone else so quickly. But I think he'd definitely have second thoughts and return to our character for a second chance if she remained single after they broke up, although it would probably take something big like our character nearly dying to bring him to his senses and make him realise that he's being too proud and should seize the moment before its too late.

I'm not too sure how things would work out if our character is a mage and they broke up though, I'm not sure if he would return to her unless he lost off faith in the Templar Order or some how was able to start afresh with the Order, changing the rules so that they could be together some how.

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Someone needs to start a topic about love interests having second chances/begging to be taken back. I think it's an interesting idea!

*pokes LolaLei*

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brushyourteeth wrote...

Someone needs to start a topic about love interests having second chances/begging to be taken back. I think it's an interesting idea!

*pokes LolaLei*


LOL I'm rubbish at drawing interest to my threads, you're the one with a talent for it! All your threads are a hit with everyone on here, I nominate you to make one. :P

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LolaLei wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

Someone needs to start a topic about love interests having second chances/begging to be taken back. I think it's an interesting idea!

*pokes LolaLei*


LOL I'm rubbish at drawing interest to my threads, you're the one with a talent for it! All your threads are a hit with everyone on here, I nominate you to make one. :P

LOL NO! I'm a thread killer. Look what I did to the poor dwarf romance topic - haha.
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Yeah but that was funny!

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Not enough Cullen on this page, so double your pleasure. Night folks!

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LolaLei wrote...

Yeah but that was funny!


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Sorry to gravedig, but where is the theory that the Amells are descendants of Andraste?

Oh, and shirtless Cullen . . .? Do . . . like . . . (drools)

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Sorry to gravedig, but where is the theory that the Amells are descendants of Andraste?

I would guess that was just some speculation...?
To my knowledge, there are currently no known descendents of Andraste, according to the Andraste wiki page with a (defunct) David Gaider ref. But... LOL seek and ye shall find -- if we can imagine it, it seems BSN has discussed it.

After a quick search:

Hawke, Andraste's descendent?  To which someone quotes a David Gaider post that says: Hawke is not related to Andraste, Flemeth, or Maric. - David Gaider

Heh, so I guess there you have it... :happy:

Oh, and shirtless Cullen . . .? Do . . . like . . . (drools)

I aim to please! :D

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MissRedZelda wrote...

Sorry to gravedig, but where is the theory that the Amells are descendants of Andraste?

Oh, and shirtless Cullen . . .? Do . . . like . . . (drools)


It's a rumour/theory that's been going around the forum/Internet for a while, not sure where it came from though, but it seemed like a possible storyline lol. Still, debunked or not I wouldn't put it past them to use it in the future the way they've been retconning things LOL!

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Bwt, does anyone know if Cullen mentions the female elf Mage Surana in DA2? I've looked on YouTube but I can't find anything, but I read somewhere that he speaks very sweetly of her.

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Bwt, does anyone know if Cullen mentions the female elf Mage Surana in DA2? I've looked on YouTube but I can't find anything, but I read somewhere that he speaks very sweetly of her.

Hmm, dunno. I've only ever heard of him mentioning Amell, but I've never done a Surana playthrough. That would be a nice touch...

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R2s Muse wrote...

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Bwt, does anyone know if Cullen mentions the female elf Mage Surana in DA2? I've looked on YouTube but I can't find anything, but I read somewhere that he speaks very sweetly of her.

Hmm, dunno. I've only ever heard of him mentioning Amell, but I've never done a Surana playthrough. That would be a nice touch...


I thought he only mentioned Amell too, but on the Dragon Age wiki someone mentions that he spoke of her Surana... unless it was a typo and she meant Amell lol. Either way I can't find any evidence of him saying anything.

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Ok ladies, here's my prediction for how many years after DA2 that DA3 will be set:

DA2's story ended sometime in 9:38 dragon and the Asunder novel takes place a year after the events of DA2, where all the cool sh!t happens with the Mages & Templars in Orlais. Sooo my guess is DA3 will be set in 9:39/9:40 dragon.

... Which means Cullen will still be young enough to shag yay! Although I'm a bit concerned that they'll replace Cullen with Ser Evangeline as our Templar spokesperson/companion/love interest.

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LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Bwt, does anyone know if Cullen mentions the female elf Mage Surana in DA2? I've looked on YouTube but I can't find anything, but I read somewhere that he speaks very sweetly of her.

Hmm, dunno. I've only ever heard of him mentioning Amell, but I've never done a Surana playthrough. That would be a nice touch...


I thought he only mentioned Amell too, but on the Dragon Age wiki someone mentions that he spoke of her Surana... unless it was a typo and she meant Amell lol. Either way I can't find any evidence of him saying anything.

Also... he mentions Amell because of the connection to Hawke, so not sure when a Surana mention would arise in conversation. :shrug: Someone should try it !

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LolaLei wrote...

Ok ladies, here's my prediction for how many years after DA2 that DA3 will be set:

DA2's story ended sometime in 9:38 dragon and the Asunder novel takes place a year after the events of DA2, where all the cool sh!t happens with the Mages & Templars in Orlais. Sooo my guess is DA3 will be set in 9:39/9:40 dragon.

... Which means Cullen will still be young enough to shag yay! Although I'm a bit concerned that they'll replace Cullen with Ser Evangeline as our Templar spokesperson/companion/love interest.

Weellll,  I would actually say Act 3 ended closer to 9:37, which is 3 yrs after the Champion is named in 9:34, and the acts themselves are negligibly long. Of course, I'd love some evidence to put it in 9:38 since that would make the timeline in Asunder make MUCH more sense. Anyway, then Varric is supposedly interrogated in 9:40 for the whole "decade long" saga, during which he acknowledges to Cassandra that the templars have left the Chantry, an event which we know from Asunder happens in 9:40. So, yeah, I'd imagine DA3 would take place after all that, so in at least 9:40. Personally, I'd hope they get in a few years of the mage-templar war before we revisit the story, so I would wager it would be a bit later (somewhere between 9:40-9:50)

In any event, I think Cullen's got a whole lot more years for shaggin, so I would think we'd be covered. ;)

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R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Ok ladies, here's my prediction for how many years after DA2 that DA3 will be set:

DA2's story ended sometime in 9:38 dragon and the Asunder novel takes place a year after the events of DA2, where all the cool sh!t happens with the Mages & Templars in Orlais. Sooo my guess is DA3 will be set in 9:39/9:40 dragon.

... Which means Cullen will still be young enough to shag yay! Although I'm a bit concerned that they'll replace Cullen with Ser Evangeline as our Templar spokesperson/companion/love interest.

Weellll,  I would actually say Act 3 ended closer to 9:37, which is 3 yrs after the Champion is named in 9:34, and the acts themselves are negligibly long. Of course, I'd love some evidence to put it in 9:38 since that would make the timeline in Asunder make MUCH more sense. Anyway, then Varric is supposedly interrogated in 9:40 for the whole "decade long" saga, during which he acknowledges to Cassandra that the templars have left the Chantry, an event which we know from Asunder happens in 9:40. So, yeah, I'd imagine DA3 would take place after all that, so in at least 9:40. Personally, I'd hope they get in a few years of the mage-templar war before we revisit the story, so I would wager it would be a bit later (somewhere between 9:40-9:50)

In any event, I think Cullen's got a whole lot more years for shaggin, so I would think we'd be covered. ;)


Really? I read DA2 ended in 9:38 and Asunder takes place a year later in 9:39? It's really hard trying to get information on the timeline through google LOL.

I guess when DA3 takes place would depend on whether or not they want us to prevent the Mage/Templar war getting seriously out of hand (so we'd be thrown in right at the beginning) or if they want us to be right in the middle of it just as sh!ts starting to get real lol.

I read somewhere that DG said Morrigan was in her early 30's in DA:O which would make her in her early 40's in DA3 and Leliana would be in her late 30's by that point too. I'm betting the DA team will retcon everyone's age or simply ignore their age altogether keeping them looking really young still.

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LolaLei wrote...

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LolaLei wrote...

Ok ladies, here's my prediction for how many years after DA2 that DA3 will be set:

DA2's story ended sometime in 9:38 dragon and the Asunder novel takes place a year after the events of DA2, where all the cool sh!t happens with the Mages & Templars in Orlais. Sooo my guess is DA3 will be set in 9:39/9:40 dragon.

... Which means Cullen will still be young enough to shag yay! Although I'm a bit concerned that they'll replace Cullen with Ser Evangeline as our Templar spokesperson/companion/love interest.

Weellll,  I would actually say Act 3 ended closer to 9:37, which is 3 yrs after the Champion is named in 9:34, and the acts themselves are negligibly long. Of course, I'd love some evidence to put it in 9:38 since that would make the timeline in Asunder make MUCH more sense. Anyway, then Varric is supposedly interrogated in 9:40 for the whole "decade long" saga, during which he acknowledges to Cassandra that the templars have left the Chantry, an event which we know from Asunder happens in 9:40. So, yeah, I'd imagine DA3 would take place after all that, so in at least 9:40. Personally, I'd hope they get in a few years of the mage-templar war before we revisit the story, so I would wager it would be a bit later (somewhere between 9:40-9:50)

In any event, I think Cullen's got a whole lot more years for shaggin, so I would think we'd be covered. ;)


Really? I read DA2 ended in 9:38 and Asunder takes place a year later in 9:39? It's really hard trying to get information on the timeline through google LOL.

Grr, this has actually been driving me crazy recently... so please  forgive the crazy ravings over dates! I'd love for someone to come out and say Meredith died in 9:38 definitively.  But, I can't find anything that tells me so. Every indicator is that Act 3 happens in "year seven" as per the save game and other in game dialogue (for example, a discussion here), so 9:30+ 7 has to be 9:37. Act 3 could just be longer than the others...?

Chantry incident in 9:38 is the only thing that might make sense with Asunder, after I've beaten my head against the wall with that timeline and every time reference the book contains. Indeed, they say repeatedly that it takes place a year "after Kirkwall" and definitively ends in 9:40. All references to the Blight and the Divine suggest the main events take place around at least 9:39 or 9:40. So all I can guess is most of the book happens in late autumn to winter 9:39, and the books' final events end in early 9:40. Of course "a year" is probably one plus or minus a few months, but it still seems to be some time missing (for example if Asunder starts in late autumn 9:39, something happening in the last month of 9:37 is almost two years earlier).

Argh, sorry /end rant. :crying:

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I guess when DA3 takes place would depend on whether or not they want us to prevent the Mage/Templar war getting seriously out of hand (so we'd be thrown in right at the beginning) or if they want us to be right in the middle of it just as sh!ts starting to get real lol.

I've been wondering this, too. I was thinking that if they wanted someone to stop things before they got too far, as per Cassandra's mission in tracking down Varric, then why not just ask Hawke to do it, you know? I can't believe they couldn't actually track her down eventually. But if not, maybe the new PC is her replacement? <ooh, never thought of that before> Anyway, that was part of  why I was imagining they'd set it a bit further into the conflict, to distance it a bit from Hawke and what she could/should have done.

I read somewhere that DG said Morrigan was in her early 30's in DA:O which would make her in her early 40's in DA3 and Leliana would be in her late 30's by that point too. I'm betting the DA team will retcon everyone's age or simply ignore their age altogether keeping them looking really young still.

You know, seeing how smokin Teagan was for someone of Eamon's generation... I'll bet on the latter! :D I thought Leliana almost looked younger in DA2 than DA:O.

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It's so confusing and I haven't even bothered to read the books or watch the movies yet so my brains probably going to explode when I do! Although I really should read Asunder because apparently it gives us a few clues as to what's going to happen in DA3.

Anyway, I figured that if I could work out the rough timeline of when the end of DA2 and the end of the Asunder novel occured then I could make a rough guess at when I think DA3 will be set and work out whether or not they'd consider Cullen to be too old for a companion/love interest, although I'm 95% sure they'll retcon everyones age that shows up in DA3, which is probably another reason why they should set DA3 shortly after the events of DA2 (no longer than 3 years after maximum) otherwise retconning peoples ages is going to look ridiculous if some of them were originally supposed to be in their late 30's/early 40's, then all of a sudden they're in their late 20's to mid-30's lol.

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R2s Muse wrote...

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I guess when DA3 takes place would depend on whether or not they want us to prevent the Mage/Templar war getting seriously out of hand (so we'd be thrown in right at the beginning) or if they want us to be right in the middle of it just as sh!ts starting to get real lol.

I've been wondering this, too. I was thinking that if they wanted someone to stop things before they got too far, as per Cassandra's mission in tracking down Varric, then why not just ask Hawke to do it, you know? I can't believe they couldn't actually track her down eventually. But if not, maybe the new PC is her replacement? <ooh, never thought of that before> Anyway, that was part of  why I was imagining they'd set it a bit further into the conflict, to distance it a bit from Hawke and what she could/should have done.

I read somewhere that DG said Morrigan was in her early 30's in DA:O which would make her in her early 40's in DA3 and Leliana would be in her late 30's by that point too. I'm betting the DA team will retcon everyone's age or simply ignore their age altogether keeping them looking really young still.

You know, seeing how smokin Teagan was for someone of Eamon's generation... I'll bet on the latter! :D I thought Leliana almost looked younger in DA2 than DA:O.


I can only imagine that if they can't track down the Warden or Hawke then something serious must be happening that's being kept hush-hush. I doubt they've been kidnapped, so it's probably something to do with what the Grey Wardens were looking into that's involved Hawke in some way (like the whole ancient Tervinter Magisters/talking Darkspawn popping up or something, since we know Hawke's blood was important.) And as you said, if Hawke and the Warden aren't around to help save Thedas, another hero will have to rise to the occasion.

Actually, that would make a lot of sense. My theory is that the Mage/Templar storyline will serve as a distraction until the real problem comes to light. I mean, with Thedas at war with itself no ones going to be paying any attention to things like the veil thinning or Tervinter magisters rising from their slumber until its too late. I'm pretty sure Corypheus posessed Larius/that Grey Warden lady so it wouldn't surprise me if he's been upto no good and what with all the magic being thrown around in the rebellion, that veils going to break soon.

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D'awww:

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