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[Shades_Of_Pale]

Oh fudgemuffins, that is going to be so awesome. I can see it now. My incredible protag and Cullen marching across land filled with detail. Mmhmm, me likey.

[LolaLei]

Looking at all those pictures of Cullen on Deviantart that I posted up made me realise just how many fans he had even waaaay back in the DA:O days before DA2 had even been announced. I knew he had a fair few, but not that many! Especially considering he had an even smaller role in DA:O and not everyone had even played the female mage origin. Which leads me to my question:

I'm not sure if anyone in here can answer this because it depends how long you've been part of the BSN/Cullen fandom, but can any of you remember what the Cullen fans were expecting from/of him in DA2? Like before that first picture of him came out.

Presumably back then they must have been expecting him to either turn up mad killing innocents or not expected him to turn up at all because he was in Greenfell, or just too minor an npc to bother with. What were they speculating about? The possibility of him getting better and then going on to maybe romance Haske etch? Also, straight after DA:O before all the DLCs came out to retcon his epilogues were his fans speculating about him ever recovering from his ordeal or trying to petition for him to "get better"? I'm just curious as to what his fans spoke about during those times since they weren't fortunate enough back then to have known Cullen was even in DA2 since GE didn't let it slip then like he did this time round, lol.

[LolaLei]

Shades_Of_Pale wrote...

Oh fudgemuffins, that is going to be so awesome. I can see it now. My incredible protag and Cullen marching across land filled with detail. Mmhmm, me likey.

I know, it's gonna be so awesome! I hope they only give us a demo with the character creator in it this time because I don't wanna spoil my first ever experience by already knowing what the first 5 minutes of the game is like.

There's seriously nothing quite like firing up the game for the first time ever, making your character and then watching the opening scenes as your new protagonist appears on screen, especially when you've just spent hours in CC making her/him.

[HurricaneGinger]

LolaLei wrote...

Gah, now I really wanna play DA3! I'm bloody desperate to jump into the new game and experience everything for the first time. It's funny. from the little we know about it the devs already make it sound like it's kinda spectacular. The thing is, the one thing that would make it perfect (for me) would be if we really did get Cullen as a companion/LI.

I dunno about everyone else, but I'm at the stage where it literally wouldn't feel right having my new protagonist go on this grand adventure without Cullen... I guess that's the problem with getting attached to a minor npc, it gets you all excited about his/her possible inclusion within a companion/LI role and you end up ignoring the fact that there's always a chance that you won't get your wish, even though you try to be sensible and not get your hopes up.

... Not gonna lie, if/when it turns out that he isn't then it's totally gonna throw everything out of whack lol. Still, that serves me right for allowing myself to get swept away with all the theories, fanfic/fanart and possibilities that we've been coming up with. I'd rather find out now what his role will be in DA3, rather than wait until a week or so before the games release because at least then I've got months to get my head around the idea that he won't be a companion/LI and look forward to the other aspects of the game. Sure, it would ruin the surprise if he is, but at least we'd be well prepared if he isn't.

I know how you feel, and I'm sure a LOT of fangirls/boys do! I can't tell you how devestated I was when Joker ended up going for the sexbot, and I still kinda am because he would have been a remarkable romance if done right. I would LOOOOOVVVEEE if Cullen was a romance and companion, and it hasn't helped that I created a new mage just to play the Cullen romance mod. My cousin thought I was nuts, but he's a gamer like myself so he wished me luck in getting what we wanted out of DA3. Quite something for a 13 year old. But I've learned to be "cautiously optimistic". 

But I also came in here to say that I am working on somethin for y'all. I've had this story in my notebook ever since my first completed PT of DA2. I might post it for 1900 or 2000 - it depends on if I am satisfied enough with it. I am a perfectionist when it comes to my writing.

Here is a Cullen for the pic spam:


by poly-m

[LolaLei]

Yay Oto! I think she's probably the only protagonist Warden made by someone else that I really like.

Sometimes I find when an artist keeps doing *insert companion* x their custom Warden/Hawke/Shepard/Whoever pictures constantly and stuff I tend to start to get irritated after a while, as though theirs are "BioWare canon" or something, especially if said artist is friendly with the devs as they so often are. But Oto x Cullen is actually a pairing I find rather cute.

Modifié par LolaLei, 26 mai 2013 - 04:39 .

[LolaLei]

I've never tried the Cullen romance/companion mod for DA:O. I'm not sure I could bring myself to romance him since my canon romance for the Warden is always Alistair, he's too sweet to resist. Plus I'm not sure I could handle a fully silent romance/story arc with both the Warden and modded Cullen being mute.

I've (stupidly) got my heart set on Cullen being my new protagonist's canon romance option, to the point where it would feel weird trying to romance him with anyone else, lol.

[LolaLei]

Man, I know I'm gonna regret allowing myself to get excited at the possible (likely tiny) chance that Cullen might be made into a companion/LI. I told myself I wouldn't get my hopes up because I'd only end up throwing a childish strop if he isn't, yet here I am knowingly and openly letting my imagination get the better of me with all these scenarios and possibilities. It doesn't help that he seems like an obvious choice.

*Sigh* I dunno, perhaps once we get given some rough details about DA3's storyline(s)/themes then maybe we'll be a little closer to knowing what his chances are. Not gonna lie, the fact that GE only mentioned he had "a" VO session planned on Twitter that time, rather than "some" makes me think it'll be a sh!tty cameo/npc role again, yet I still find myself bloody talking about him as though he's a romanceable companion.

Modifié par LolaLei, 26 mai 2013 - 04:46 .

[SamaraDraven]

Chanda wrote...

SamaraDraven wrote...

Chanda wrote...

Testing the new signature... And that picture is beautiful! Who is the girl? Amell?

It looks pretty good Chanda!  I'm thinking I should make it longer so the words are less scrunched though. How do you like it?

I think longer would be good, the words are a little scrunchy.

Chanda, I'm so sorry but I couldn't get back to fixing the banner before I had to leave! I'll try again when I get home but that won't be for 3-4 weeks! There are a lot of Cullen banners, if you'd prefer not to use the one I made. I just don't recall what page they're on... R2 usually does a banner post every once in a while. I think the last was in the 1600s somewhere... but the search feature is either stupid or I'm an idiot because I can't just jump to that page. And searching "Cullen banners" has brought up nothing because search doesn't look at the posts within a topic. <_< Again,my apologies for not getting your banner done in time. My skills are rusty. And Cullen is stubborn! haha!

Hi everyone!

Modifié par SamaraDraven, 26 mai 2013 - 04:56 .

[HurricaneGinger]

LolaLei wrote...

I've never tried the Cullen romance/companion mod for DA:O. I'm not sure I could bring myself to romance him since my canon romance for the Warden is always Alistair, he's too sweet to resist. Plus I'm not sure I could handle a fully silent romance/story arc with both the Warden and modded Cullen being mute.

I've (stupidly) got my heart set on Cullen being my new protagonist's canon romance option, to the point where it would feel weird trying to romance him with anyone else, lol.

Oh, I'm sorry, I mean this one: linky.

It just adds a few fanmade scenes is all, mainly atmospheric to give the sense that there was a romance. I don't think I could do the one where you can recruite him, because, like you said, he would be mute.

And don't worry, we'll be here to cry with you if the worst should come to pass. 

[LolaLei]

I'm actually a little concerned that if he isn't a companion/LI that it'll put a downer on my excitement for DA3. I'm having flashbacks to when I discovered the ME3 endings via the BSN a week before its release and I nearly cancelled my pre-order in a childish strop.

I can be a bit of a nob like that sometimes, which I recognise is bloody ridiculous any other time... except when I'm in one of "those" moods. Gawd, here's hoping I don't find out during "that time of the month" otherwise I'm liable to behave like a stark raving ****ing loon!

[SamaraDraven]

LolaLei wrote...

Man, I know I'm gonna regret allowing myself to get excited at the possible (likely tiny) chance that Cullen might be made into a companion/LI. I told myself I wouldn't get my hopes up because I'd only end up throwing a childish strop if he isn't, yet here I am knowingly and openly letting my imagination get the better of me with all these scenarios and possibilities. It doesn't help that he seems like an obvious choice.

*Sigh* I dunno, perhaps once we get given some rough details about DA3's storyline(s)/themes then maybe we'll be a little closer to knowing what his chances are. Not gonna lie, the fact that GE only mentioned he had "a" VO session planned on Twitter that time, rather than "some" makes me think it'll be a sh!tty cameo/npc role again, yet I still find myself bloody talking about him as though he's a romanceable companion.

We all got our hopes up because of Greg's tweet. For myself, I know without that I'd have found it easier to not get too invested? Maybe? He does seem like such an obvious good choice, but that's only our opinion. If the writers don't agree...  I just worry that they've done something else when they could have used Cullen and told themselves they were still doing what they wanted witht the story when, really, they were running away from the Pandora's Box Cullen has come to represent even though they claim to not be swayed by fans. It could be subconscious...

Modifié par SamaraDraven, 26 mai 2013 - 04:55 .

[deuce985]

@Lola I tend to lower my expectations for games I'm excited about. As you said, if you let it get the better of you, this is where negativity and disappointment consumes you. If you lower expectations for games, they're almost always infinitely better and you look at them in a more positive light. I do this all the time and it allows me to have fun in games I normally wouldn't. I know it's hard to have that mentality sometimes but you just have to be headstrong about it.

Slightly OT but I found a good music track you might want to use for an intro in your Youtube videos Lola. Chaoz Fantasy. It sounds very gamish.

Look at me posting on a Saturday night in the Cullen thread! How's it going Cullenites?

Modifié par deuce985, 26 mai 2013 - 05:00 .

[LolaLei]

Phantom: I actually suggested to the woman who made those scenes that she should do one of Cullen carrying the female Amell/Surana back to her room after her harrowing and have him give her some sort of wistful/worried look as he lays her on the bed and pauses for a moment longer than he should because he doesn't really wanna leave her alone. I figured it would be a cute add on to the mini-romance.

She said if she gets time she'd definitely make it.

[LolaLei]

Deuce: Is it a royalty free song? I have to be careful with what I use if its not in-game music or royalty free, otherwise YouTube try to hit you with a copyright strike even if your vids aren't monetised.

[SamaraDraven]

Hi Deuce! Welcome back. Lola, I hope you'll be pleased with DAIII regardless, but I do know how much of a downer it would be to not have Cullen in there. =( But we're all with you.

[Battlebloodmage]

Just got back from seeing Star Trek, I think I have a crush on Chris Pines. lol. The movie is okay overall, but I'm not a big fan of the plot.

[LolaLei]

Huh? I didn't go anywhere, lol!

Yeah, I know we'll all be a bit sad if he isn't. I'm just gonna apologise in advance if I over react that, lol. We can always unleash me on any of the trolls that come in to gloat at our misfortune though, so that's something at least! 

Alternatively, if he is a companion I'm like to scream the bloody place down!

[deuce985]

Battlebloodmage wrote...

Just got back from seeing Star Trek, I think I have a crush on Chris Pines. lol. The movie is okay overall, but I'm not a big fan of the plot.

I saw it yesterday and loved it. I thought it was much better than the first. I can kinda see why some people were complaining about the really sexualized parts of that movie. They really didn't fit at all but what can you do. That's Hollywood for you. Overall, great movie.

@Lola I'm not 100% sure. I think it came from that site newgrounds.com. I don't think the songs there are copyrighted but I'll have to check.

@Samara Hello!

[deuce985]

LolaLei wrote...

Huh? I didn't go anywhere, lol!

Yeah, I know we'll all be a bit sad if he isn't. I'm just gonna apologise in advance if I over react that, lol. We can always unleash me on any of the trolls that come in to gloat at our misfortune though, so that's something at least! 

Alternatively, if he is a companion I'm like to scream the bloody place down!

Am I the only one who likes to get early information on a game and then just ignore most of the marketing videos beyond that? I don't do it with every game but story games I do. After Mass Effect 2, I learned my lesson. Casey Hudson was dropping spoiler bombs in that game like crazy during marketing videos and it drove me absolutely INSANE. He spoiled one of the endings in an early video.

I'm not sure how much I want to watch videos for DA:I outside a few early ones. A side of me wants to watch them all because I avoided marketing in DA2 and went in completely ignorant as to how different it was from DAO. So, I'm thinking about watching all the marketing behind DA:I. It's tough to decide.

As for Cullen, I wonder how they'll do the companion reveals? It makes you wonder if they're just going to reveal some and then leave it up to us to explore the rest inside the game.

[LolaLei]

I think last time they revealed all of them one by one about a week or so before the game shipped, except with Isabela who was in the trailer.

I guess it depends how they go about things this time. It could be that they'll tell us super early so that we have all the facts before deciding whether the game is for us, or they might decide not to tell us at all and let us find out in-game.

[LolaLei]

I'm going to be so sad if the writers decided not to make Cullen a companion/LI because of all the fans theories and "head canons" leaving no room for them to come up with anything other than what they think we "feel" is the "real Cullen".

I think if they've done that then they haven't really been paying any attention to us at all, because if they'd watched us then they'd know that we're only coming up with scenarios because 1) he's an inspiring character and 2) we're bored.

[HurricaneGinger]

LolaLei wrote...

Phantom: I actually suggested to the woman who made those scenes that she should do one of Cullen carrying the female Amell/Surana back to her room after her harrowing and have him give her some sort of wistful/worried look as he lays her on the bed and pauses for a moment longer than he should because he doesn't really wanna leave her alone. I figured it would be a cute add on to the mini-romance.

She said if she gets time she'd definitely make it.

That is GREAT because that has been my headcanon since day one! XD

And yes, I've learned lowering expectations helps a LOT. I still want epicness, but with everything the devs have to consider and such, I am being cautious. 

I also like knowing what to expect to an extent. I liked it when they showed us companions and who the LIs would be a great deal.

Modifié par PhantomGinger, 26 mai 2013 - 05:31 .

[deuce985]

LolaLei wrote...

I'm going to be so sad if the writers decided not to make Cullen a companion/LI because of all the fans theories and "head canons" leaving no room for them to come up with anything other than what they think we "feel" is the "real Cullen".

I think if they've done that then they haven't really been paying any attention to us at all, because if they'd watched us then they'd know that we're only coming up with scenarios because 1) he's an inspiring character and 2) we're bored.

I don't think Bioware would do that. I doubt they base many decisions like that because this fan community is likely a vocal minority for them.

It's interesting you say that though because I think Cullen can definitely be a sensitive issue. The slightest change could infuriate the internet and we know how that goes lol.

[LolaLei]

It's something that DG once said in one of the threads. He said that in a sense we'd backed the writers into a corner and that if Cullen was a companion/LI they're kinda shoe horned into making him into the kinda of person his fans think/feel he is. He also said that he thought we'd be the first people with our torches and pitchforks at the ready if they don't something to him that we didn't like.

... Of course, this was before he started taking our side, which actually happened on the same day. I still don't know what made him change his mind, although I do recall that we all went into said thread en masse to explain that we wouldn't freak out, nor do we believe our theories and head canons to be legit or expect them to be carried out by the writers.

Modifié par LolaLei, 26 mai 2013 - 05:54 .

[SamaraDraven]

I was welcoming Deuce back, Lola! lol!

deuce985 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I'm going to be so sad if the writers decided not to make Cullen a companion/LI because of all the fans theories and "head canons" leaving no room for them to come up with anything other than what they think we "feel" is the "real Cullen".

I think if they've done that then they haven't really been paying any attention to us at all, because if they'd watched us then they'd know that we're only coming up with scenarios because 1) he's an inspiring character and 2) we're bored.

I don't think Bioware would do that. I doubt they base many decisions like that because this fan community is likely a vocal minority for them.

It's interesting you say that though because I think Cullen can definitely be a sensitive issue. The slightest change could infuriate the internet and we know how that goes lol.

I can't speak for other DA gamers who aren't BSNers - and any potential Cullen fans there may be besides; but I hope, if the writers have learned anything about us, they realize that what we want most is to have Cullen's story done well or not at all. Yes we want him but most of us are willing to overlook our individual canon's being smashed to smithereens if they do his story really well. For my part, even if they make him evil; I'll accept that if there's a good story behind it. And give the haters the option to not recruit/ murder knife him so everybody wins!

Modifié par SamaraDraven, 26 mai 2013 - 05:55 .