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[neonmoth]

meanieweenie wrote...
This will probably sound corny but if Anders really loved Hawke he'd have grabbed that last kiss whether s/he wanted it or not. I always felt like Anders' romance was a sham in retrospect. Like he used Hawke from the get go for nookie, somewhere to crash and hide, someone to do his dirty work. A means to an end.

Yep, that's why I never thought about a tender kiss but rather a passionate grab, almost against Hawke's will, surprising display of emotions... "I know you might hate me now but I really love you"

Or at least a hand grab (I know I'm excelling in romantic descriptions...), or some more physical contact, something that would reflect the desperate feelings/situation both characters are in... I don't know. But I get where you are coming Batteries, it could go any way. It might create a void between them (though my Hawke was rather on the rage/passion side "I want to hate you but I still love you").

Edit ToP, someone mentioned kisses?

Modifié par neonmoth, 30 mai 2013 - 11:30 .

[neonmoth]

LolaLei wrote...

TADAAAAAA!!!



Best photoshop I've ever done... (and quickest too!) 

this is absolutely brilliant so I'm reposting!

[LolaLei]

Hehehe, thanks! I Made it off Twice a Lady's comment about Seb reminding her of the witch in Wizard of Oz after referring to Anders as Hawke's precious. I had to make Cullen the Tin man, based on his uniform and the whole "if I only had a heart" thing.

... Maybe I should do a LotR one?

[meanieweenie]

LolaLei wrote...

Hehehe, thanks! I Made it off Twice a Lady's comment about Seb reminding her of the witch in Wizard of Oz after referring to Anders as Hawke's precious. I had to make Cullen the Tin man, based on his uniform and the whole "if I only had a heart" thing.

... Maybe I should do a LotR one?

YES! I'll be your bestest friend if you do a LotR.

[R2s Muse]

meanieweenie wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Hehehe, thanks! I Made it off Twice a Lady's comment about Seb reminding her of the witch in Wizard of Oz after referring to Anders as Hawke's precious. I had to make Cullen the Tin man, based on his uniform and the whole "if I only had a heart" thing.

... Maybe I should do a LotR one?

YES! I'll be your bestest friend if you do a LotR.

^THIS THIS THIS!!!

[neonmoth]

meanieweenie wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Hehehe, thanks! I Made it off Twice a Lady's comment about Seb reminding her of the witch in Wizard of Oz after referring to Anders as Hawke's precious. I had to make Cullen the Tin man, based on his uniform and the whole "if I only had a heart" thing.

... Maybe I should do a LotR one?

YES! I'll be your bestest friend if you do a LotR.

Ooh, seconded <3
Edit: thirded (sneaky R2

*now I am wondering how your cast will look like*

Modifié par neonmoth, 30 mai 2013 - 11:43 .

[LolaLei]

Hehehe, ok I'll do that in a bit!

[R2s Muse]

neonmoth wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...
I'm also very curious about scribe girl. I think she will also be like Traynor  Which makes me sad because she won't be a full companion. Unless they make non-traveling companions and flesh their stories out as much as the traveling ones. I would not mind having a LI who does not travel with my PC, so long as the story is as deep and meaningful as the others.

I think it is highly unlikely. I've actually recently browsed a thread (can't find it now, sorry:[) where someone asked DG about having non-follower LI and, in his opinion, it would be hard to make it work. Even if the amount of romantic content is comparable, there is always a lingering feeling that there is less content than with regular romances (I think he referenced Sam's and Steve's romances but I am not sure). In his opinion spending time together, even non-romantically, travelling and fighting along side of your LI creates the space where romance naturally develops and provides more content overall, giving you the feel you've got more interaction with the character (even though it is not neccessarily romantic one). To balance this out, romance with non follower would have to be richer, hence more resource consuming. This is how I remember his answer.
I can understand where he's coming from, because I love to drag my character's LIs with her/him all the time just to have the ability to look at them and feel that they are hanging out with each other (with some backstage chats and cuddles...). From the roleplaying perspective, it might be interesting to be involved with someone out of the party, living their every day lives (it kind of worked in Skyrim, but that game had overall lacking relashionships with characters, so I wasn't missing on anything). On the other hand, I wonder how plausible it would be, having a character that travels a lot over the course of time and has a major death wish.  Who would want to be romantically involved with such person?

Ah, this sounds vaguely familiar now. Good point. Indeed, it sounds like in ME this was the case, that the stay-at-home LIs felt less fully realized. Doesn't quite make sense to put resources into something half-baked, as it were.

Too bad, I was ready to run with my long distance relationship Questioning Beliefs issue... LOL 

[R2s Muse]

neonmoth wrote...

meanieweenie wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Hehehe, thanks! I Made it off Twice a Lady's comment about Seb reminding her of the witch in Wizard of Oz after referring to Anders as Hawke's precious. I had to make Cullen the Tin man, based on his uniform and the whole "if I only had a heart" thing.

... Maybe I should do a LotR one?

YES! I'll be your bestest friend if you do a LotR.

Ooh, seconded <3
Edit: thirded (sneaky R2

*now I am wondering how your cast will look like*

[R2s Muse]

OMG, OK, totally not Cullen related, but I just saw the coolest cosplay on devart. Gender-bent Morrigan!

Reminds me of this, which I particularly like.

[neonmoth]

R2s Muse wrote...
Too bad, I was ready to run with my long distance relationship Questioning Beliefs issue... LOL 

I hear you :] I actually like the idea and I'm used to creating meaningful relationships in other games based only on few conversations. Hell, you know, many side characters from both DA games were romanced to death in fanguys imaginations. Look at considerable popularity of the characters that hint any sort of interest (Cullen, Teagan, anyone?).
But obviously it is nicer to have a fully fleshed out romance without resorting to your own creativity too much and I can imagine many people would complain that those romances were not developed sufficiently... There is always not enough

[LolaLei]

He's kinda hot... reminds me of my teen goth years!

[neonmoth]

R2s Muse wrote...

OMG, OK, totally not Cullen related, but I just saw the coolest cosplay on devart. Gender-bent Morrigan!

Reminds me of this, which I particularly like.

Hello there mister...
I love gender swap for DA characters. Alistair as a lovely templar lady?

Edit: now I started to think about femCullen and I'm not sure if I like this idea... It's probably that I can't imagine him as a girl. Hmmm... now I'm tempted to draw something and it would be horrendous...

Modifié par neonmoth, 30 mai 2013 - 12:08 .

[LolaLei]

I love those fan pics of male Morrigan/the OGB when he's full grown, but I don't find it attractive because they always tend to look like my dad when he was young. :-S

[neonmoth]

^^Healthy reaction :] Thankfully they look nothing like my dad...

Edit: Now I wish there was a Morriganesque male mage follower in DAI. I don't know Dorian yet, but the way you portrayed him few pages back.... I approve :happy:

Modifié par neonmoth, 30 mai 2013 - 12:13 .

[LolaLei]

I wonder just how jarring it'll be (if at all) when we finally see these new companions and they look nothing like we imagined, especially if the ones from the survey aren't used.

[neonmoth]

I bet we will be drooling over them in no time *fingerscrossed*
On a serious note, I sometimes think about it and my general consensus with myself is that the excitement would probably overtake any disappointment. At least I hope so. But again I am horribly optimistic and believe that we'll get at least a bit of what we yearn....

[LolaLei]

I think it'll feel a little strange for me since we've been discussing DA3 for so long that I kinda have this image of it in my head that's likely to be completely wrong. That being said, I don't think I'll be disappointed of anything, but it'll certainly feel kinda surreal at first.

[neonmoth]

I guess the time when they will be revealing little bits might serve as "acclimatization" period, when we'll adapt our imagination to encompass the reality :] 

Modifié par neonmoth, 30 mai 2013 - 12:42 .

[neonmoth]

Sorry, I'm creating a total mess with my posts but I'm still catching up...

Twice a Lady wrote...
Mmmmmmm I'm all for tall, dark and suave...after I rom the hell out of Cullen every which way but and loose! I'm actually really out of the loop, I haven't got my copy of the WOT yet, I haven't read any of the comics or the books. I have no idea who half these characters are that people talk about. 'Cept for what I pick up on here.

I feel you... I'm a bit lost here myself. I've only read "The stolen throne" and even though it adds to the story I was never particularly engrossed by the plot so I skipped the following books. Now I've picked up "The calling" and absolutely love it, it adds so much to Grey Wardens lore. I haven't read Asunder and the comics (I'm still uncertain about the latter) and I haven't watch the movie. I've got the the WOT but so far I was more " woah, nice pictures... I like" and never got to read much. For some reason I decided to fill my gaps before E3, at the same time replaying both games. DA overload much?

Twice a Lady wrote...
I find that I, myself am quite adaptable to what BioWare brings to the table in terms of their character progressions and changes. Do I hate Anders for blowing up the chantry? No. I either run away with him as a glorious mage Bonnie & Clyde or heartsick, I follow after him to keep saving him from himself. Was I heartbroken that adorable Cullen was tortured to the point of hating all mages enough to want the Right of Annullment in Origins? Yes, but that didn't make me hate the character or feel disappointed in him. It made my heart ache with pity and sorrow for him. And when he returned in DA2 and we watched him change over the course of the game back to a fair and honest man? Of course I loved it! Am I worried about what will happen to him in DAI? No. Because given time and many playthroughs I can come
to understand the motivations of a character and why they behaved/acted/said what they did. To me, It's all about shifting perspectives, and that is what I love most about BioWare games. Even the villians have reason for why they do what they do. And I love both the heros and the villians.

Ahh, I love you for saying this because it beautifully sums up my feelings about BW games. I feel like such a fangirl It is amazing how much I care about their characters, regardless of whether I applaud their actions or despise them. Usually different playthroughs reveal more and more, and I manage to gain different perspective on the situation. Sometimes I need to be in a right frame of mind to appreciate the character or, as I found out with Morrigan or Jack, I need a particular playthrough with a specific PC, where exploring her/his motivations and experiences "helps" me to understand the others. I don't think that there is a villain in their games that I truly hate and the hero that I see as completely pure and perfect. And I love it. The fact that they tackle mature subjects in their games and then they use different means to challenge us on our opinions, and that everything is not as straightforward as it seems, oh the joy.

Modifié par neonmoth, 30 mai 2013 - 12:44 .

[LolaLei]

Yeah, I remember I was a bit underwhelmed at the survey leak reveal initially until I got used to the idea... especially after I saw the Cullen pic in it, LOL.

I've just realised we'll find out more in just over a week.

[LolaLei]

neonmoth: Definitely read Asunder, if nothing else. There's some huge hints and story setup for DA3 in there.

[neonmoth]

Only a week *quiet squee* It's good that the time flies... Actually your "chats" inspired me to read Asunder, I realized that it is important as a background for the incoming game, so I'm definitely going to do it. ... and because The Calling is on the way I thought I would read it as well. Hence I'm finishing it now. Is the movie worth watching?

Modifié par neonmoth, 30 mai 2013 - 12:53 .

[meanieweenie]

R2s Muse wrote...

OMG, OK, totally not Cullen related, but I just saw the coolest cosplay on devart. Gender-bent Morrigan!

Reminds me of this, which I particularly like.

Jinkies, he's purdy! Love the genderbender stuff.

[R2s Muse]

I've seen a gender bent Cullen. I'll see if I can track it down when I get home. It was ... Not as attractive IMO, but ymmv.

Yeah I think you're right that we'll have an acclimatization period... Gosh I mean we have 4-7 months left or more? I have faith that it will be awesome, even if its different from what we imagine.