brushyourteeth wrote...
motomotogirl wrote...
What is the new page 2000 topic?
Sorry, mmg -- I missed this earlier! You can find it here.
Nobody has to follow the theme -- it's just for creative inspiration or whatever. But I'd love to see something Cullen / Fenris-y since you probably know Fenris' character best!
And should I be embarrassed to admit I immediately thought of doing Cullen/Fenris banter? tee-hee 8D
rapscallioness wrote...
deuce985 wrote...
rapscallioness wrote...
i wonder why we wouldn't be getting a female dwarf companion? that makes no sense. we always have a dwarf. what difference would it make?
I was kinda hoping for sigrun, but i adore dagna , too
Most probably engine problems. I'd imagine it would cost an immense amount of resources to make a female dwarf for the engine. You have to keep in mind this is the first time they're doing a game on a new engine. I'll bet we don't see a female Quanari either(not the human ones).
I always thought Mass Effect did a great job at mixing your companions up with the rich universe. Asari, Krogan, Turian, etc. It's hard to imagine DA:I will be loaded with human companions as that survey leak shows.
more than varric or oghren?
Dave of Canada wrote...
deuce985 wrote...
You know what has me worried about that survey leak? No dwarf character. I think that would pretty much confirm no chance at seeing a place like Kal-Sharok in Orlais. Most likely an engine constraint.
Decided to check the thread for fun and see this.
While I'm not sure exactly to what extent Bioware has market-based research influence them, they're usually never conclusive and often present very basic premises for people completely unrelated to a franchise to evaluate and "feel". Although the concept art might remain legit, characters and priorities shift and you may result with something different.
Survey fillers are extremely picky, they're usually going to answer very generically because the entire purpose is appealing to the majority of people. Unfortunately, dwarves are very niche and--although BioWare might not do this--can be "concealed".
For example, tald old guy with the spear? His entire concept could be about Qunari but the average person who'll fill the survey wouldn't know what a Qunari is and thus had the concept art redrawn to appear human and get their beliefs on the character's design and description without having to explain the entire backstory.
In addition to this, concept art doesn't mean it's only for companions. They might be evaluating concept art for key characters and antagonists over some companions who were still in the pipeline at the time, an antagonist's design is just as vital as the player must recognize them.
Now, I'm not sure if BioWare does deception and I wouldn't like to hold up some false hope but that doesn't mean to become discouraged, surveys often mean very little when it comes to character design and descriptions. I've had to do quite a bunch for other companies, some which half the presented designs never made it past development.
About the dwarven city under Orlais, shameless plug here where I talk about the Stone Golem in Dragon Age 2 which mentions the Stone beneath Orlais and a bunch of other things.
brushyourteeth wrote...
I completely get where you're coming from, deuce, that the new engine and lack of resources might be an excuse, but what those excuses essentially amount to is "We're selling you an incomplete game" and I'm pretty fed up with it. :/
motomotogirl wrote...
brushyourteeth wrote...
motomotogirl wrote...
What is the new page 2000 topic?
Sorry, mmg -- I missed this earlier! You can find it here.
Nobody has to follow the theme -- it's just for creative inspiration or whatever. But I'd love to see something Cullen / Fenris-y since you probably know Fenris' character best!
Yeah I did some searching and found it!
deuce985 wrote...
brushyourteeth wrote...
I completely get where you're coming from, deuce, that the new engine and lack of resources might be an excuse, but what those excuses essentially amount to is "We're selling you an incomplete game" and I'm pretty fed up with it. :/
Yea, I get that too. That's why I'm hoping Bioware takes all the time they need with DA:I. The more time Bioware has the more they can do with the game. I'm a bit pessimistic they'll make the date of late 2013. Something just tells me the game is too big for it to come out so soon for them. IMO, March 2014 and I'm sticking to that date until they prove me otherwise.
That's not really a negative in my mind. More time the better.
Modifié par Dave of Canada, 07 juin 2013 - 06:52 .
Dave of Canada wrote...
If it makes any of you feel any better, that elf archer is about as generic as it gets with no distinct design decisions and no facial features at all. I'd be surprised if they didn't replace her completely with someone else or made another design which looks completely different.
Compare he to, say... Cullen. Distinct outfit, distinct facial features and the art itself feels "finished". The fact they introduced someone recognizable just solidifies Cullen's role in the game, meaning he's all but implemented and they're looking for thoughts on his costume design instead of the character itself.
Same with Cassandra and the Warden (but he's a newcomer, his design could be modified to greater extents).
Dave of Canada wrote...
If it makes any of you feel any better, that elf archer is about as generic as it gets with no distinct design decisions and no facial features at all. I'd be surprised if they didn't replace her completely with someone else or made another design which looks completely different.
Compare he to, say... Cullen. Distinct outfit, distinct facial features and the art itself feels "finished". The fact they introduced someone recognizable just solidifies Cullen's role in the game, meaning he's all but implemented and they're looking for thoughts on his costume design instead of the character itself.
Same with Cassandra and the Warden (but he's a newcomer, his design could be modified to greater extents).
Hi.Chanda wrote...
Funny, someone was just wondering a few pages back what a non-Cullenite would think should one come in here, and then in pops Dave. Just for fun.
Quite frankly, I wouldn't bother using "if" at this point. Gaider appreciates the Cullen fandom, Greg Ellis all but confirmed he's back in the reins, we've got near-final concept art and DA:I is the best spot to drop Cullen into the companion roster as he's got a ton of potential.brushyourteeth wrote...
I'm hopeful that if he's in the game
I'm going to assume Cullen is going to be the type of character who's caught up in a crossroads, not knowing which side to follow considering he's been betrayed by both. At most, I can imagine the player can convince him to become similar to Asunder's Evangeline which will be enough to satisfy everyone who hates him right now.there will be plenty of BSN folks who are quick to ignore it or twist it around as evil.
Modifié par Dave of Canada, 07 juin 2013 - 07:07 .
Dave of Canada wrote...
Hi.Chanda wrote...
Funny, someone was just wondering a few pages back what a non-Cullenite would think should one come in here, and then in pops Dave. Just for fun.Quite frankly, I wouldn't bother using "if" at this point. Gaider appreciates the Cullen fandom, Greg Ellis all but confirmed he's back in the reins, we've got near-final concept art and DA:I is the best spot to drop Cullen into the companion roster as he's got a ton of potential.brushyourteeth wrote...
I'm hopeful that if he's in the gameI'm going to assume Cullen is going to be the type of character who's caught up in a crossroads, not knowing which side to follow considering he's been betrayed by both. At most, I can imagine the player can convince him to become similar to Asunder's Evangeline which will be enough to satisfy everyone who hates him right now.there will be plenty of BSN folks who are quick to ignore it or twist it around as evil.
But I hope you're right about the majority. It is funny how none of our companions have been historically anything but hopelessly flawed, yet one of the main complaints about Cullen as a companion is how broken he's been!
Modifié par Dave of Canada, 07 juin 2013 - 07:26 .
Dave of Canada wrote...
Design decision probably taken from the popularity of Game of Thrones.
Might make more sense if we play the game and it's winter.
LolaLei wrote...
Dave of Canada wrote...
Design decision probably taken from the popularity of Game of Thrones.
Might make more sense if we play the game and it's winter.
True. At least they got rid of his skirt, I guess.
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Dave of Canada wrote...
Design decision probably taken from the popularity of Game of Thrones television series. Might make more sense if we play the game and it's winter, I don't want to imagine Cullen walking around with something to keep him warm during the middle of summer.
charlottecorday wrote...
Dave of Canada wrote...
Design decision probably taken from the popularity of Game of Thrones television series. Might make more sense if we play the game and it's winter, I don't want to imagine Cullen walking around with something to keep him warm during the middle of summer.
This is what I always thought too (and why I dig it, to be honest lol).
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