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[LolaLei]

[LolaLei]

Well ladies, this thread has officially passed both the Varric, Aveline and Sebastian thread in page numbers. We're also only approximately 100 pages away (give or take) from being on par with the Isabela thread. Not bad for a non-romanceable NPC eh!

... At this rate the DA team are bound to notice eventually, I know the other forumites are starting to!

Modifié par LolaLei, 16 juin 2012 - 04:19 .

[MissRedZelda]

Well, I guess that makes Cullen the ensemble darkhorse of the DA world ;-)

[brushyourteeth]

LolaLei wrote...

Okay, I honestly have to tell someone how much this shot creeps me out every time I see it. It's like Anders has hijacked poor Cullen's face. And I always felt like this moment was Anders trying to convince himself that he was really in love rather than him actually reveling in the fact that he was truly in love.

[vieralynn]

brushyourteeth wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Okay, I honestly have to tell someone how much this shot creeps me out every time I see it. It's like Anders has hijacked poor Cullen's face. And I always felt like this moment was Anders trying to convince himself that he was really in love rather than him actually reveling in the fact that he was truly in love.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels like this.

When I body swapped Cullen for Anders and video captured all of the Anders personal quests and romance scenes, I ended up laughing far too much. Anders' facial expressions always feel theatrical and Cullen looks ridiculous making over the top facial expressions that are completely out of character for him.

That said, I give bioware credit for animating each companion with unique body language and facial expressions that portray their personalities. 

[vieralynn]

LolaLei wrote...

Well ladies, this thread has officially passed both the Varric, Aveline and Sebastian thread in page numbers. We're also only approximately 100 pages away (give or take) from being on par with the Isabela thread. Not bad for a non-romanceable NPC eh!

... At this rate the DA team are bound to notice eventually, I know the other forumites are starting to!

Wow! Adding in 76 pages in the original thread, Cullen is on par with Isabela's thread. Pretty amazing for an NPC. (it's all Greg Ellis' fault )

[R2s Muse]

vieralynn wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

Okay, I honestly have to tell someone how much this shot creeps me out every time I see it. It's like Anders has hijacked poor Cullen's face. And I always felt like this moment was Anders trying to convince himself that he was really in love rather than him actually reveling in the fact that he was truly in love.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels like this.

When I body swapped Cullen for Anders and video captured all of the Anders personal quests and romance scenes, I ended up laughing far too much. Anders' facial expressions always feel theatrical and Cullen looks ridiculous making over the top facial expressions that are completely out of character for him.

That said, I give bioware credit for animating each companion with unique body language and facial expressions that portray their personalities. 

Yeah, that was the thing that first struck me when I started doing these swaps, is how uniquely expressive each character was.  For example:

Anders, heart on on his sleeve:


Fenris, smolder, passive aggressive:


Then, later, this one just made me laugh at HOW non-Cullen it was -- Donnic, dopey puppy:


Ironically, I think the most in character swap I've done was... Aveline!

[vieralynn]

OMG DONNIC! That is so hilariously OOC. The Aveline swap is surprisingly believable.

So, I know how to swap models on companions by editing save files. How did you swap on an NPC like Donnic?

EDIT: Oh, never mind. I just found some answers on Nexusmods!  

Modifié par vieralynn, 16 juin 2012 - 11:09 .

[R2s Muse]

vieralynn wrote...

OMG DONNIC! That is so hilariously OOC. The Aveline swap is surprisingly believable.

So, I know how to swap models on companions by editing save files. How did you swap on an NPC like Donnic?

EDIT: Oh, never mind. I just found some answers on Nexusmods!  

Yeah, I pretty much followed this one: http://forums.nexusm...ng-npc-models/   which also references this for the heads:

http://www.thenexusf...ing-faces-mode/

But, in the end, I wasn't completely successful. I could never figure out what Donnic's armor model inside apr_base.gda was in order to replace it. Donnic doesn't have his own, so I tried replacing the general guard one(s), but it never worked. So, essentially all I really did was extract the Cullen mor, rename it to Donnic, repack it as an erf and put it in override.

Anyhoo, if you ever figure it out, please let me know!

Modifié par R2s Muse, 16 juin 2012 - 11:59 .

[R2s Muse]

For completeness:

Cullen as predatory, "let's get it on" Hawke, about to sleep with Isabela:


and

Cullen as sarcastic, patronizing Hawke about to seduce Merrill:



and satisfied with himself that he has...

Modifié par R2s Muse, 16 juin 2012 - 12:24 .

[R2s Muse]

Also, for fun, Cullen is man of the month at the Bioware Men's Club on dev art. This is a nice tribute to him: HERE

[LolaLei]

Do you guys have any more of the Cullen/Aveline face swap?

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

Do you guys have any more of the Cullen/Aveline face swap?

Yeah, just from one scene, tho (when she tells you to go to Sundermount in Act 1). Can't upload til later.

[vieralynn]

R2s Muse wrote...

vieralynn wrote...

OMG DONNIC! That is so hilariously OOC. The Aveline swap is surprisingly believable.

So, I know how to swap models on companions by editing save files. How did you swap on an NPC like Donnic?

EDIT: Oh, never mind. I just found some answers on Nexusmods!  

Yeah, I pretty much followed this one: http://forums.nexusm...ng-npc-models/   which also references this for the heads:

http://www.thenexusf...ing-faces-mode/

But, in the end, I wasn't completely successful. I could never figure out what Donnic's armor model inside apr_base.gda was in order to replace it. Donnic doesn't have his own, so I tried replacing the general guard one(s), but it never worked. So, essentially all I really did was extract the Cullen mor, rename it to Donnic, repack it as an erf and put it in override.

Anyhoo, if you ever figure it out, please let me know!

Those the pages Google found for me.  

Given how crazy the first half of the summer will be for me, it might be a while before I have a chance to play around with modding but if I ever figure out how to replace NPC armor models the "correct" way, I'll post about it.

Even when creating additional new followers with customized stats, I had to monkey around a good deal to get armor to work correctly. 

[vieralynn]

R2s Muse wrote...

Also, for fun, Cullen is man of the month at the Bioware Men's Club on dev art. This is a nice tribute to him: HERE

Hm. I think tumblr needs this right now. 

Love the write up they did!  

[vieralynn]

R2s Muse wrote...

For completeness:

Cullen as predatory, "let's get it on" Hawke, about to sleep with Isabela:


and

Cullen as sarcastic, patronizing Hawke about to seduce Merrill:



and satisfied with himself that he has...

HAHA!  Preditory Cullen is the most OOC Cullen I've seen yet. It makes Anders-in-a-Cullen-suit believable. 

I almost believe the look on sarcastic, patronizing, seductive Cullen's face. Almost. But only almost.

On the other hand, satisfied shirtless Cullen looks very believably satisfied in a Culleny sort of way. His emotions are always expressed through his eyes while his mouth is either neutral, a slight half-smile, or a frown. 

[MissRedZelda]

Yus! Got here before missed out on much! But seriously, shirtless Cullen is just . . . (drools)

Anyway, here's some fanart!


By pyromaniac03

[R2s Muse]

MissRedZelda wrote...

Yus! Got here before missed out on much! But seriously, shirtless Cullen is just . . . (drools)

Anyway, here's some fanart!


By pyromaniac03

  Ooh, pretty.

[MissRedZelda]

She's pregnant as well ;-) Boy or girl, I wonder.

Ooo! Speculation time! If they were to have a child, would it be a boy or a girl. And do you think the child would be a Mage like his/her Mother?

[R2s Muse]

MissRedZelda wrote...

She's pregnant as well ;-) Boy or girl, I wonder.

Ooo! Speculation time! If they were to have a child, would it be a boy or a girl. And do you think the child would be a Mage like his/her Mother?

That's what I thought. Heh, I've written a time or two about his kids. My answer: yes.

[R2s Muse]

So, here are some funny Cullen faces via Aveline. The reason I did the swap was to see him do the Aveline-lean (heh that rhymes), which is in the following post, but the skirt didn't really work for that.

[R2s Muse]

Aveline-lean... wherein he almost looks like he's lining up to block a penalty kick in soccer... ahem.

Modifié par R2s Muse, 17 juin 2012 - 12:37 .

[R2s Muse]

vieralynn wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

For completeness:

Cullen as predatory, "let's get it on" Hawke, about to sleep with Isabela:


and

Cullen as sarcastic, patronizing Hawke about to seduce Merrill:



and satisfied with himself that he has...

HAHA!  Preditory Cullen is the most OOC Cullen I've seen yet. It makes Anders-in-a-Cullen-suit believable. 

I almost believe the look on sarcastic, patronizing, seductive Cullen's face. Almost. But only almost.

On the other hand, satisfied shirtless Cullen looks very believably satisfied in a Culleny sort of way. His emotions are always expressed through his eyes while his mouth is either neutral, a slight half-smile, or a frown. 

Agree, of all these, I've always thought the last one seems most feasibly Culleny... esp for that post-coital glow moment. For the Merrill-patronizing, I don't seem to have gotten a screen shot that really captured it... probably because I thought it was so... icky. Plus, the clipping is crappy for a lot of it since Hawke is so much taller than Merrill.

[meanieweenie]

R2s Muse wrote...

I like this... looks like he's trying to figure out if you're into him or whether or not to make a move.

[R2s Muse]

vieralynn wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

vieralynn wrote...

OMG DONNIC! That is so hilariously OOC. The Aveline swap is surprisingly believable.

So, I know how to swap models on companions by editing save files. How did you swap on an NPC like Donnic?

EDIT: Oh, never mind. I just found some answers on Nexusmods!  

Yeah, I pretty much followed this one: http://forums.nexusm...ng-npc-models/   which also references this for the heads:

http://www.thenexusf...ing-faces-mode/

But, in the end, I wasn't completely successful. I could never figure out what Donnic's armor model inside apr_base.gda was in order to replace it. Donnic doesn't have his own, so I tried replacing the general guard one(s), but it never worked. So, essentially all I really did was extract the Cullen mor, rename it to Donnic, repack it as an erf and put it in override.

Anyhoo, if you ever figure it out, please let me know!

Those the pages Google found for me.  

Given how crazy the first half of the summer will be for me, it might be a while before I have a chance to play around with modding but if I ever figure out how to replace NPC armor models the "correct" way, I'll post about it.

Even when creating additional new followers with customized stats, I had to monkey around a good deal to get armor to work correctly. 

Cool. Swapping the character-specific body models seems to be straightforward. But, for characters that use a generic body, like guards (including Donnic) and templars (Cullen included), I can't figure out what code is being used so that I can replace it. The generic ones in apr_base.gda are usu. full body, head included, and anyway, replacing those doesn't seem to do anything. *sigh* So much of this is still trial and error, for all the "tutorials" out there.