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meanieweenie wrote...

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Maybe when the fade will tear it will leave an exit for those who want to get out of there (demons), i.e. it requires more active approach on their part, whilst the other beings, such as spirits or dreamers have no interest in leaving. Though I admit free-roaming souls of dreaming people could add interesting twist/comedic potential :happy:


Edit: cause I write gibberish... and another edit cause I'm struggling with understanding myself, sorry :( i guess I need some rest.

Interesting thought there. On that same thought train.... I wonder if we'll have to close the hole from inside the Fade. A good few of the nasties will be on the Thedas side so would it be easier to traverse the other plane? Or could we become trapped once it's repaired? Maybe it'll be another Ultimate Sacrifice deal where we have to give away one of our companions. Image IPB

That's an interesting idea! Honestly, I always thought that Fade had a great potential that was never fully realized.
It could be scary, deceptive, surreal and really push boundaries. It allows freedom to create totally crazy environments and it shouldn't be a chore (though I always liked fade sequences :)). And I don't mind a sacrifice option as long as it is not the only option.

Edit: ToP Faded Cullen :devil:

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That's one of mine from the page 500 celebration!

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LolaLei wrote...

That's one of mine from the page 500 celebration!

It's lovely :kissing: Probably 99% of the Cullen pics in google link to this thread :)))

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neonmoth wrote...

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That's one of mine from the page 500 celebration!

It's lovely :kissing: Probably 99% of the Cullen pics in google link to this thread :)))


Lol, we have quite a vast collection!

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It's interesting. A lot of people are presuming that Cassandra and/or Varric are the companions, but it could be a bit of a red herring, perhaps the only companion in that trailer is the Qunari/Tal-Vashoth dude? I mean, it seems unusual for them to add 3 companions into one trailer.

Even though I would love Cass/Varric to be companions I am sceptical as well. They were very slow with releasing companion info last time round, even the returning characters. I was thinking that maybe the role that Varric and Cass had in the DA2 would make them appear in DAI at the start, just to tie into DA2 and explain the context of the interrogation. So it could be just cameos. Morrigan looks very much like npc potential but that could be intentional deception. I also vote for the Qunari dude to be a follower. Hope it's Red Iron Bull. I definitely need some energy drink or a nap :happy:

**Sorry that I am jumping through different topics but I'm skimming the thread a bit and returning to some posts if I have a thought.

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R2s Muse wrote...

Trip out on this. Look what I found.

Remember way back in the dark ages when a fan essay on mages breaking the Fade was tweeted by one of the devs?? And, brushyourteeth started a thread on it in the DAII forums? Of course, we'd been talking about Veil rips even before that, but note that this was also way before the survey leaks. Now we know why that was of such interest to Mary Kirby...

Welcome to memory lane! Part of the reason the new trailer didn't really shock us... LOL


That is a VERY fascinating essay - and so far, fairly accurate! It gave me chills thinking what DA3 could be. 

neonmoth wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

It's interesting. A lot of people are presuming that Cassandra and/or Varric are the companions, but it could be a bit of a red herring, perhaps the only companion in that trailer is the Qunari/Tal-Vashoth dude? I mean, it seems unusual for them to add 3 companions into one trailer.


Even though I would love Cass/Varric to be companions I am sceptical as well. They were very slow with releasing companion info last time round, even the returning characters. I was thinking that maybe the role that Varric and Cass had in the DA2 would make them appearing in DAI at the start, just to tie into DA2 and explain the context of the interrogation. So it could be just cameos. Morrigan looks very much like npc potential but that could be intentional. I also vote for the Qunari dude to be a follower. Hope it's Red Iron Bull.

**Sorry that I am jumping through different topics but I'm skimming the thread a bit and returning to some posts if I have a thought.


I agree. I can't see Cassandra relinquishing leadership so easily, and if she even did it would be with much reluctance - possibly with crossing swords. She may be taking care of the Veil and malificar. As for Varric, it IS easy seeing him as a companion, but I think that's mostly wishful thinking. I'm not even sure what he would do as an NPC. Organize a resistance? He appeared more sympathetic to the mages, after all.

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neonmoth wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

It's interesting. A lot of people are presuming that Cassandra and/or Varric are the companions, but it could be a bit of a red herring, perhaps the only companion in that trailer is the Qunari/Tal-Vashoth dude? I mean, it seems unusual for them to add 3 companions into one trailer.

Even though I would love Cass/Varric to be companions I am sceptical as well. They were very slow with releasing companion info last time round, even the returning characters. I was thinking that maybe the role that Varric and Cass had in the DA2 would make them appear in DAI at the start, just to tie into DA2 and explain the context of the interrogation. So it could be just cameos. Morrigan looks very much like npc potential but that could be intentional deception. I also vote for the Qunari dude to be a follower. Hope it's Red Iron Bull. I definitely need some energy drink or a nap :happy:

**Sorry that I am jumping through different topics but I'm skimming the thread a bit and returning to some posts if I have a thought.

LOL  All I can think of now is this Red Bull.

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PhantomGinger wrote...

neonmoth wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

It's interesting. A lot of people are presuming that Cassandra and/or Varric are the companions, but it could be a bit of a red herring, perhaps the only companion in that trailer is the Qunari/Tal-Vashoth dude? I mean, it seems unusual for them to add 3 companions into one trailer.


Even though I would love Cass/Varric to be companions I am sceptical as well. They were very slow with releasing companion info last time round, even the returning characters. I was thinking that maybe the role that Varric and Cass had in the DA2 would make them appearing in DAI at the start, just to tie into DA2 and explain the context of the interrogation. So it could be just cameos. Morrigan looks very much like npc potential but that could be intentional. I also vote for the Qunari dude to be a follower. Hope it's Red Iron Bull.

**Sorry that I am jumping through different topics but I'm skimming the thread a bit and returning to some posts if I have a thought.


I agree. I can't see Cassandra relinquishing leadership so easily, and if she even did it would be with much reluctance - possibly with crossing swords. She may be taking care of the Veil and malificar. As for Varric, it IS easy seeing him as a companion, but I think that's mostly wishful thinking. I'm not even sure what he would do as an NPC. Organize a resistance? He appeared more sympathetic to the mages, after all.


  There are also arguments to be made that both Varric and Cassandra have had their share of the spotlight. One was already a full companion and narrator, the other a sort of narrator plus protagonist in her own movie.

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R2s Muse wrote...

PhantomGinger wrote...

neonmoth wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

It's interesting. A lot of people are presuming that Cassandra and/or Varric are the companions, but it could be a bit of a red herring, perhaps the only companion in that trailer is the Qunari/Tal-Vashoth dude? I mean, it seems unusual for them to add 3 companions into one trailer.


Even though I would love Cass/Varric to be companions I am sceptical as well. They were very slow with releasing companion info last time round, even the returning characters. I was thinking that maybe the role that Varric and Cass had in the DA2 would make them appearing in DAI at the start, just to tie into DA2 and explain the context of the interrogation. So it could be just cameos. Morrigan looks very much like npc potential but that could be intentional. I also vote for the Qunari dude to be a follower. Hope it's Red Iron Bull.

**Sorry that I am jumping through different topics but I'm skimming the thread a bit and returning to some posts if I have a thought.


I agree. I can't see Cassandra relinquishing leadership so easily, and if she even did it would be with much reluctance - possibly with crossing swords. She may be taking care of the Veil and malificar. As for Varric, it IS easy seeing him as a companion, but I think that's mostly wishful thinking. I'm not even sure what he would do as an NPC. Organize a resistance? He appeared more sympathetic to the mages, after all.


  There are also arguments to be made that both Varric and Cassandra have had their share of the spotlight. One was already a full companion and narrator, the other a sort of narrator plus protagonist in her own movie.

And Cass is a hero in her own rights. It would be like Warden and Hawke joining the party... I can imagine those arguments about who is the top dog. Unless they plan Inquisition:The expendables or Avengers edition. Inquisitor would have to be someone very special to make this option plausible imo.

And lol at the pic :))

Modifié par neonmoth, 15 juin 2013 - 11:18 .


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R2s Muse wrote...

PhantomGinger wrote...

neonmoth wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

It's interesting. A lot of people are presuming that Cassandra and/or Varric are the companions, but it could be a bit of a red herring, perhaps the only companion in that trailer is the Qunari/Tal-Vashoth dude? I mean, it seems unusual for them to add 3 companions into one trailer.


Even though I would love Cass/Varric to be companions I am sceptical as well. They were very slow with releasing companion info last time round, even the returning characters. I was thinking that maybe the role that Varric and Cass had in the DA2 would make them appearing in DAI at the start, just to tie into DA2 and explain the context of the interrogation. So it could be just cameos. Morrigan looks very much like npc potential but that could be intentional. I also vote for the Qunari dude to be a follower. Hope it's Red Iron Bull.

**Sorry that I am jumping through different topics but I'm skimming the thread a bit and returning to some posts if I have a thought.


I agree. I can't see Cassandra relinquishing leadership so easily, and if she even did it would be with much reluctance - possibly with crossing swords. She may be taking care of the Veil and malificar. As for Varric, it IS easy seeing him as a companion, but I think that's mostly wishful thinking. I'm not even sure what he would do as an NPC. Organize a resistance? He appeared more sympathetic to the mages, after all.


  There are also arguments to be made that both Varric and Cassandra have had their share of the spotlight. One was already a full companion and narrator, the other a sort of narrator plus protagonist in her own movie.


That's true, but it won't bother me so much if there is a good reason why they are brought back. I can understand why Anders returned. Of course not everyone feels that way, and I respect that. And yes, both Varric and Cass have had a ton of spotlight, like you said. Fresh faces never hurt, and I do like getting to know new people. =] I can ask them what their favorite ice cream flavor is, for example. XD

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Agreed. I actually made a list of all the things Cassandra has appeared in recently and she does seem too important to be a mere companion, plus if you plan to have her a companion role then why spoil the surprise by keep trotting her out for every DA related thing? Perhaps the reason she got her own movie is because she's supposed to just be a very important npc instead.

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^^Oh, I don''t mind them to come back. It's just unlike Bioware to reveal few cards already :] They like to play us a lot.

Edit: Kinda :ph34r:'d by Lola

Modifié par neonmoth, 15 juin 2013 - 11:17 .


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Here's the list I made:

She's the hero of Orlais
Is from a long line of special snowflake dragon hunters
Is of royal stock (according the the WoT book)
Is a very high ranking Seeker
Is the Divine's right (or left) hand
Was in DA2, was portrayed as "badass" and given the special job of finding Hawke/the Warden
Was mentioned in Asunder/hinted at (can't remember if she was actually in it)
Got her own movie made about her, in which she had the starring role
Was used in the PAX East presentation under the guise of "hypothetical" companion customisation
Shows up on the elevator art in the BioWare studio
Is used in the new DAI trailer specifically on its release

That's A LOT of spoilerage if she really is supposed to be a companion!

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*Edit* double post.

Modifié par LolaLei, 15 juin 2013 - 11:21 .


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LolaLei wrote...

Here's the list I made:

She's the hero of Orlais
Is from a long line of special snowflake dragon hunters
Is of royal stock (according the the WoT book)
Is a very high ranking Seeker
Is the Divine's right (or left) hand
Was in DA2, was portrayed as "badass" and given the special job of finding Hawke/the Warden
Was mentioned in Asunder/hinted at (can't remember if she was actually in it)
Got her own movie made about her, in which she had the starring role
Was used in the PAX East presentation under the guise of "hypothetical" companion customisation
Shows up on the elevator art in the BioWare studio
Is used in the new DAI trailer specifically on its release

That's A LOT of spoilerage if she really is supposed to be a companion!

Unless she's Liara of DA universe... Then it wouldn't matter that she's got so much spotlight and can sometimes outshine the protagonist :whistle: Maybe she and the protag will be BFF!

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neonmoth wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Here's the list I made:

She's the hero of Orlais
Is from a long line of special snowflake dragon hunters
Is of royal stock (according the the WoT book)
Is a very high ranking Seeker
Is the Divine's right (or left) hand
Was in DA2, was portrayed as "badass" and given the special job of finding Hawke/the Warden
Was mentioned in Asunder/hinted at (can't remember if she was actually in it)
Got her own movie made about her, in which she had the starring role
Was used in the PAX East presentation under the guise of "hypothetical" companion customisation
Shows up on the elevator art in the BioWare studio
Is used in the new DAI trailer specifically on its release

That's A LOT of spoilerage if she really is supposed to be a companion!

Unless she's Liara of DA universe... Then it wouldn't matter that she's got so much spotlight and can sometimes outshine the protagonits :whistle:


True, although even Liara didn't get THAT much attention! Plus, DG said he didn't want to do what he did in DA:O in which a companion (Alistair) took more of the spotlight than the protagonist.

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Don't get me wrong, they put a lot of attention of Alistair, Varric and Isabela too but that was after the games they starred in. Alistair wasn't a special snowflake in DA:O, the dragon blood thing was only really played with years later.

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LolaLei wrote...

True, although even Liara didn't get THAT much attention! Plus, DG said he didn't want to do what he did in DA:O in which a companion (Alistair) took more of the spotlight than the protagonist.

#sighofrelief & #fingerscrossed

I also felt that my Warden was slightly outshined by Morri but nvm. However I look at it she doesn't fit on so many levels. And I think it would be so much like Bio to troll us with a three fan favourites of which none would become a companion :happy:

Edit: Though I like their looks so much I would cry my eyes if they weren't... and if they beat proper companions in the looks department :o #imsoshallow

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LolaLei wrote...

Agreed. I actually made a list of all the things Cassandra has appeared in recently and she does seem too important to be a mere companion, plus if you plan to have her a companion role then why spoil the surprise by keep trotting her out for every DA related thing? Perhaps the reason she got her own movie is because she's supposed to just be a very important npc instead.


Maybe she's the bad guy? *shrug* Like, maybe she is constantly working against us and trying to halt our investigations because it collides w/ her own? I just don't know anymore lol :lol: The speculation part of my brain is a burnt little crater now.

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neonmoth wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

True, although even Liara didn't get THAT much attention! Plus, DG said he didn't want to do what he did in DA:O in which a companion (Alistair) took more of the spotlight than the protagonist.

#sighofrelief & #fingerscrossed

I also felt that my Warden was slightly outshined by Morri but nvm. However I look at it she doesn't fit on so many levels. And I think it would be so much like Bio to troll us with a three fan favourites of which none would become a companion :happy:


I don't really mind the protagonist getting outshined, it was to be expected with the Warden anyway since he/she was voiceless.

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littlenikki wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Agreed. I actually made a list of all the things Cassandra has appeared in recently and she does seem too important to be a mere companion, plus if you plan to have her a companion role then why spoil the surprise by keep trotting her out for every DA related thing? Perhaps the reason she got her own movie is because she's supposed to just be a very important npc instead.


Maybe she's the bad guy? *shrug* Like, maybe she is constantly working against us and trying to halt our investigations because it collides w/ her own? I just don't know anymore lol :lol: The speculation part of my brain is a burnt little crater now.


That would be a switch! Especially since we know she isn't a bad person. Perhaps she'd be kinda against us until the end or something? *Shrugs*

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I didn't have any issue with having my protagonist getting a bit outshined, i actually found it rather great that for this one time someone else was of great importance. Not sure i'd be as alright with it if it happened every game but every now and then is just fine!

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LolaLei wrote...

littlenikki wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Agreed. I actually made a list of all the things Cassandra has appeared in recently and she does seem too important to be a mere companion, plus if you plan to have her a companion role then why spoil the surprise by keep trotting her out for every DA related thing? Perhaps the reason she got her own movie is because she's supposed to just be a very important npc instead.


Maybe she's the bad guy? *shrug* Like, maybe she is constantly working against us and trying to halt our investigations because it collides w/ her own? I just don't know anymore lol :lol: The speculation part of my brain is a burnt little crater now.


That would be a switch! Especially since we know she isn't a bad person. Perhaps she'd be kinda against us until the end or something? *Shrugs*

I would love that. She definitely would be a great and relateable bad guy. Or... she's just your frenemy/nemesis, working against you throughout the game until endgame when you realize that both of you have been played by the real Big Bad... Sandal! (jk)

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CrazyRah wrote...

I didn't have any issue with having my protagonist getting a bit outshined, i actually found it rather great that for this one time someone else was of great importance. Not sure i'd be as alright with it if it happened every game but every now and then is just fine!

I don't think I mind it either but sometimes it makes me lol at inadequacy of my pc when everybody is so kickass around him/her. the only npc that got on my nerves was Liara (even if I like her character) when I was playing an adept in ME3. I often felt redundant with her uber singularity :/

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Talking about Sandal, I am a bit intrigued by his statement about the magic coming back and in particular ”When he rises, everyone will see". Who will "he" be? Hmm...