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[VampOrchid]

R2s Muse wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

littlenikki wrote...

Hmph.....all this waiting for DAI is making me really want to buy a new game, even though there's about a thousand other more responsible things I need to be saving up for. Defiance looks really interesting, but I need a good group of people to play with before committing to a new MMO like that. Has anyone tried Last of Us or Remember Me yet?

I haven't personally tried it, but seems like everyone on Twitter's going nuts over Last of Us.

And Defiance the TV show sucks if that helps at all....

D'awww... I like Defiance! You really think it sucks? I don't know anyone else who's watched it. 

I LOVE that show! Me and my hubby watch it. Haven't recently because it's been busy. But it's set to record so we have four episodes to catch up on

[Twice a Lady]

JediBeagle wrote...

I agree with neonmoth about Cullen's sense of humor. We haven't gotten to see it much in the last two games (he hasn't really been involved in the funniest or happiest scenes so far) but hopefully if he is a companion in DA:I it will be explored more widely. Perhaps his sense of humor has evolved to work with his occasional shyness as he isn't by any means an "in your face" type of character.

I wonder if he has lost some of the mentioned shyness he had back in DAO and DA2. The times are certainly becoming more grim and I would also assume he is/ will be moving up in rank. He seems like a confident man when it comes to his work so perhaps the shyness and stuttering will only become present again if he is a romance option?

yup. I have to agree with you both on his sense of humour.

As for his shyness, I think he overcame it in DA2. He came off as very confident and sure of himself, but I wonder if the shyness is purely a female Mage origins thing. I've never played a male Mage so I don't know if Cullen sounds as nervous in that dialogue as he did talking to the girl he had a mad crush on. Seeing him between the two games, I got he impression that we was only shy or nervous around anything to do with love and brothels! I always chalked the brothel stutter up to him trying to be polite and delicate in the company of someone he didn't know (Hawke). 
Still, I'd like to think that he'd get all nervous again to some degree being around someone he likes. I mean, the majority of people are anyway...

[Rayndorn]

Twice a Lady wrote...

He came off as very confident and sure of himself, but I wonder if the shyness is purely a female Mage origins thing. I've never played a male Mage so I don't know if Cullen sounds as nervous in that dialogue as he did talking to the girl he had a mad crush on. Seeing him between the two games, I got he impression that we was only shy or nervous around anything to do with love and brothels! I always chalked the brothel stutter up to him trying to be polite and delicate in the company of someone he didn't know (Hawke). 
Still, I'd like to think that he'd get all nervous again to some degree being around someone he likes. I mean, the majority of people are anyway...

As a male mage, he acts fairly formal and friendly. The difference between his dialogue when you're a guy or a gal is very noticable. I agree with what you say about him being nervous around those who he likes - it would be adorable if he acted like that in DA: I! It would be fun if he's all formal and confident, but when you flirt with him he suddenly breaks down and freaks out 

Modifié par Hazasaurus98, 20 juin 2013 - 04:00 .

[LolaLei]

Lol, I always wondered if he had stopped himself calling them something else and changed it to "young ladies" because he was working and didn't want to sound unprofessional, thus the slight uneasy stutter.

I imagine he would still get slightly flustered around the protagonist if he was developing feelings for her/him, or if the protagonist complimented him and he wasn't expecting it.

Modifié par LolaLei, 20 juin 2013 - 04:03 .

[JediBeagle]

Hazasaurus98 wrote...

Twice a Lady wrote...

He came off as very confident and sure of himself, but I wonder if the shyness is purely a female Mage origins thing. I've never played a male Mage so I don't know if Cullen sounds as nervous in that dialogue as he did talking to the girl he had a mad crush on. Seeing him between the two games, I got he impression that we was only shy or nervous around anything to do with love and brothels! I always chalked the brothel stutter up to him trying to be polite and delicate in the company of someone he didn't know (Hawke). 
Still, I'd like to think that he'd get all nervous again to some degree being around someone he likes. I mean, the majority of people are anyway...

As a male mage, he acts fairly formal and friendly. The difference between his dialogue when you're a guy or a gal is very noticable. I agree with what you say about him being nervous around those who he likes - it would be adorable if he acted like that in DA: I! It would be fun if he's all formal and confident, but when you flirt with him he suddenly breaks down and freaks out 

That would be hilarious as well as sweet  How old will he be in the next game? Well over 30 I would asume (just guessing)?  Poor sheltered templar!

If he is a romance option I wonder if his romance will play out differently if the warden in origins was a female mage. I assume she would atleast be mentioned but could his previous crush potentially affect his desire to enter into a relationship with someone else? Could be interesting.

[Twice a Lady]

I think he's supposed to be in his mid to late 30s in the next game (should he appear) I bet Lola knows the exact age!
As much as I adore his crush on Fem Amell/Surana, I can't see it being anything that would impact a future relationship with someone else since nothing ever came of it. It was a crush. I've been madly in love, hardcore crushing on lots of guys that never went anywhere. None impacted my relationship with my husband. Sure I fondly recall so and so with a laugh, but not a one had any effect on my relationship. I think it'd be different if Cullen and the fem mage had something more going on. Past relationships can effect new romances.

[neonmoth]

I always thought that in the "young ladies" convo, he just stopped to think about an appropriate word he could use that wouldn't sound inappropriate or derogatory (and his reaction was more related to the fact that the term he used was in no way reflecting what those young ladies were doing for living) :]

I never took him for a shy guy overall, more for an awkward one in particular (=romantic) situations. I could see him trying to maintain composure and rationalize, even if pc was flirting with him, maybe taking things too literally, (unconsciously) ignoring underlying messages, all sorts of innuendos and so on, which could lead to some funny and awkward situations. Oh, I so wish I could write some funny convos that are in the back of my head now )

[LolaLei]

I hope he won't go on about her too much. My Warden is the female Amell but I'd be annoyed if he was all like "you remind me of Amell blah blah".

Personally I think the best way to solve it would be if he said "I thought I was in love once, but I was young and naive. These feelings I have for you (new protagonist) are unlike anything I have ever experienced before blah blah blah", so that way it acknowledges Amell/Surana if you played as one, but that since meeting the new protagonist he's discovered what it feels like to have his feelings reciprocated etc.

Modifié par LolaLei, 20 juin 2013 - 04:30 .

[JediBeagle]

Twice a Lady wrote...

I think he's supposed to be in his mid to late 30s in the next game (should he appear) I bet Lola knows the exact age!
As much as I adore his crush on Fem Amell/Surana, I can't see it being anything that would impact a future relationship with someone else since nothing ever came of it. It was a crush. I've been madly in love, hardcore crushing on lots of guys that never went anywhere. None impacted my relationship with my husband. Sure I fondly recall so and so with a laugh, but not a one had any effect on my relationship. I think it'd be different if Cullen and the fem mage had something more going on. Past relationships can effect new romances.

That's true (and good news for the new protagonist ). I wonder how old our character will be though. There was some discussion about it in the DA:I forums with people hoping we would get to play an older character than in the last two games. Hawke was closing in on 30 at the end of DA2 I think. I wouldn't mind playing someone older than that at all especially if some of the love interests are somewhat older than the "usual" 20ish. Weren't Alistair, Morrigan and Leliana all around 20-25 in DAO? Not sure about Zevran.

[LolaLei]

I think Cullen's files said 24 in the toolset, so he'll probably be about 36ish in DAI, but it depends on whether they've shaved a few years off his age and/or how long after the end of DA2 the new game picks up from.

Soooo I'd say he'll be anything between 34 and 39.

[neonmoth]

I love his crush on Amell/Surana in Origins but, if he is a LI, I want him to focus on my pc instead of reminiscing some girl he fell in love with in the past. Tbh if he really, really HAS to talk about her (e.g. if my pc is insanely curious for some stupid reason) I just want him to honourably mention "a girl, he had a crush on/was in love with in a Circle way in the past". For me he could not mention her at all.

[LolaLei]

I don't mind how old the character is supposed to be, so long as I can make him/her look younger or older in the CC. I mean, I'm 27 but I look younger, so for example, if I'm making the protagonist look like me then I just pick the skin textures and attributes that make her look as close to my facial resemblance as possible.

[Twice a Lady]

I already got the satisfaction of him mentioning Amell in DA2. It would seem redundant to me to do it again in the third game.
I'm a terrible judge of age in these games! Someone told me once that Alistair was supposed to be 19! I thought he was much older! Bethany and Carver are supposed to be 18, again I thought they were older (but Bethany's scary skeleton, grandma hands had something to with that, at least on a subconscious level!). I enjoy playing a character in the 25-40 range, mostly because it's a range I identify with better than playing a young pup barely out of their teens. But that's just me.

[LolaLei]

Yeah, Alistair looked older than 19... I'd even say he behaved older than 19 even though he could be childish at times. Still, I guess it's difficult to make them look a certain age especially given the graphic limitations of the old engine.

[Twice a Lady]

LolaLei wrote...

Yeah, Alistair looked older than 19... I'd even say he behaved older than 19 even though he could be childish at times. Still, I guess it's difficult to make them look a certain age especially given the graphic limitations of the old engine.

i actually don't like knowing the ages of the characters. That way, I can tailor their ages to my imagination and preferences. 

[neonmoth]

JediBeagle wrote...
That's true (and good news for the new protagonist ). I wonder how old our character will be though. There was some discussion about it in the DA:I forums with people hoping we would get to play an older character than in the last two games. Hawke was closing in on 30 at the end of DA2 I think. I wouldn't mind playing someone older than that at all especially if some of the love interests are somewhat older than the "usual" 20ish. Weren't Alistair, Morrigan and Leliana all around 20-25 in DAO? Not sure about Zevran.

I hope the new protag will be at least 25, maybe 30, but it depends in what place of their own story they will start. With Origins it worked that Warden was a young person, having a very limited experience. I loved that Shepard was 29 at the start of the ME but s/he had already established position so I think that's why his/her age worked so well. It wasn't only on paper, you could really see/feel it (with the baggage, the way npcs reacted). So if Inquisitor is 30 but nothing will reflect that... I don't know :]

[LolaLei]

Yeah, me too. I don't think we're really supposed to know its just that people find it in the toolsets.

[JediBeagle]

I would never have guessed Alistair to be 19 either. He looked older as did Bethany and Carver. I also originally thought Cullen was already around 30 in DAO but he looked much younger in DA2. Must have been the change in style. I recall David Gaider commenting on Cullen's good looks in DA2 that they were the result of asking for "a clean cut" character or something like that.

I wonder what he will look like with the new engine. Varric, Cassandra and Morrigan all looked good in the trailer so here's hoping Cullen's transformation will be a good one too. Can't wait to get to test the CC, hopefully they'll release it with the demo like they did with DA2. But that won't be happening for a long time.

[CuriousArtemis]

R2s Muse wrote...

D'awww... I like Defiance! You really think it sucks? I don't know anyone else who's watched it. 

Yeah, sorry  I actually watched the most recent episode yesterday and have made the decision to no longer continue with it. It kind of reminds me of the type of story I would have written... in high school *BURN!* lol Nah really, it's just a combination of bad acting (Quinton, his sister, the mayor, her sister, Nolan, all suck), and "I saw that coming a mile away because it's already been done" storytelling. It lacks subtly and complexity, and I'm getting tired of the "all Castithans are evil" plot point. 

Now, Falling Skies...  

Modifié par motomotogirl, 20 juin 2013 - 04:55 .

[CuriousArtemis]

JediBeagle wrote...

I would never have guessed Alistair to be 19 either. He looked older as did Bethany and Carver.

They definitely didn't look it, but they did ACT it, so the writing and voice acting were spot on. The games previously seemed to only do "10 years old" and "25 years old" quite well; anything in between was impossible lol 

I know a lot of people want an older protagonist, but I'm hoping we get to be young again (Hawke was 25, so I don't consider that young). I'm already 32 so I don't want to play someone like myself... I wanna play someone young and fresh-faced  I don't like to feel like myself in a game.

[neonmoth]

One thing I wonder after watching the trailer is that even though all characters are pretty recognizable, they went through some major revamp. How far they will change Cullen and in what direction. Looking at Varric there is a lot of potential there. Not that I want him totally changed but even the textures add so much.

[LolaLei]

I was surprised how much younger Cassandra looked in the trailer actually. In DA2 she had quite sharp harsher looking features, but in the trailer he features were softer and she looked super young like she was in her late teens. Come to think of it, even Varric and Morrigan looked younger than their previous counterparts, makes me wonder if Cullen will drop a few years physically too (again).

[neonmoth]

motomotogirl wrote...

JediBeagle wrote...

I would never have guessed Alistair to be 19 either. He looked older as did Bethany and Carver.

They definitely didn't look it, but they did ACT it, so the writing and voice acting were spot on. The games previously seemed to only do "10 years old" and "25 years old" quite well; anything in between was impossible lol

This^^ Alistair definitely felt young.

[neonmoth]

LolaLei wrote...

I was surprised how much younger Cassandra looked in the trailer actually. In DA2 she had quite sharp harsher looking features, but in the trailer he features were softer and she looked super young like she was in her late teens. Come to think of it, even Varric and Morrigan looked younger than their previous counterparts, makes me wonder if Cullen will drop a few years physically too (again).

That was my thought as well. Cullen in origins, 24 but looks 34, DA2 looks mid to late 20s, DAi is 34-39 but looks 20

Edit: I seriously hope for a weathered look.

Modifié par neonmoth, 20 juin 2013 - 05:05 .

[JediBeagle]

I loved the new textures in the trailer because that's the thing that bothered me most about DA2 and to a degree with DAO as well. Of the three characters in the trailer Varric came out the best I think. I commented on another topic about Morrigan's new looks fitting well with her character even without looking perfectly like her DAO form. Such changes happen with a change in style/ engine.

Hopefully Cullen will be recognizable as himself and have a look that fits his character.