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[LolaLei]

JediBeagle wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Can anyone remember if Cullen is mentioned in the Witch Hunt DLC if your Warden wasn't an Amell/Surana?

Seems to be only for the mage origin both male and female.

What do they say for a male Amell/Surana?

[neonmoth]

LolaLei wrote...

Twice a Lady wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

That scene with Cassandra stabbing the table with those six Seekers (or whatever they were) standing around makes me wonder if maybe it was just a character swap for the trailer and that in-game it's actually our protagonist behind the table having a discussion with our companions.

Huh. I never thought of that....mmmmmmm, I'm liking that idea. 

It just seems a little odd that Cassandra would be bossing people around like that if she is indeed supposed to be a companion, because that's our job. So either she's not a companion at all and is just an important npc, or that was a character swap for the benefit of the trailer.

I actually thought it was more of a case of scene staging than character swapping, since the knife part was so much in character for her. But now I don't know. Since they told us that none of what we've seen can be true, then how to speculate #grumble

[LolaLei]

neonmoth wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Twice a Lady wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

That scene with Cassandra stabbing the table with those six Seekers (or whatever they were) standing around makes me wonder if maybe it was just a character swap for the trailer and that in-game it's actually our protagonist behind the table having a discussion with our companions.

Huh. I never thought of that....mmmmmmm, I'm liking that idea. 

It just seems a little odd that Cassandra would be bossing people around like that if she is indeed supposed to be a companion, because that's our job. So either she's not a companion at all and is just an important npc, or that was a character swap for the benefit of the trailer.

I actually thought it was more of a case of scene staging than character swapping, since the knife part was so much in character for her. But now I don't know. Since they told us that none of what we've seen can be true, then how to speculate #grumble

At least some of it has to be true, like the veil rip and those weird looking demons. Presumably the fighting we saw still happens but we don't know who/what they're fighting yet. 

[JediBeagle]

LolaLei wrote...

JediBeagle wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Can anyone remember if Cullen is mentioned in the Witch Hunt DLC if your Warden wasn't an Amell/Surana?

Seems to be only for the mage origin both male and female.

What do they say for a male Amell/Surana?

http://dragonage.wik...wiki/Witch_Hunt   In the trivia section it mentions something about Cullen in banter but now that I re-read it I´m not sure if it actually comes up for male mage. Sorry!

[LolaLei]

JediBeagle wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

JediBeagle wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Can anyone remember if Cullen is mentioned in the Witch Hunt DLC if your Warden wasn't an Amell/Surana?

Seems to be only for the mage origin both male and female.

What do they say for a male Amell/Surana?

http://dragonage.wik...wiki/Witch_Hunt   In the trivia section it mentions something about Cullen in banter but now that I re-read it I´m not sure if it actually comes up for male mage. Sorry!

There's some interesting stuff in that trivia section. I'd love to see those two gossiping mages again in DAI, especially if Cullen is a companion just so that he and/or the protagonist can wipe the smugness of their faces. 

[CuriousArtemis]

Okay I watched the interview, and what I could from it is indeed that I should Asunder (NO.) and that they are listening to the fans. No really, they're listening. Promise. Totally listening. HONEST.

Sigh. Wouldn't be surprised if we ended up back with a silent protagonist and straight-only love interests. That interview seriously did nothing for my excitement level!

[LolaLei]

motomotogirl wrote...

Okay I watched the interview, and what I could from it is indeed that I should Asunder (NO.) and that they are listening to the fans. No really, they're listening. Promise. Totally listening. HONEST.

Sigh. Wouldn't be surprised if we ended up back with a silent protagonist and straight-only love interests. That interview seriously did nothing for my excitement level!

Naw, they won't ditch the voice protagonists or go back to straight-only love interests. I do wonder how much they've actually changed/added based on feedback from the fans though? 

Modifié par LolaLei, 21 juin 2013 - 06:16 .

[JediBeagle]

LolaLei wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

Okay I watched the interview, and what I could from it is indeed that I should Asunder (NO.) and that they are listening to the fans. No really, they're listening. Promise. Totally listening. HONEST.

Sigh. Wouldn't be surprised if we ended up back with a silent protagonist and straight-only love interests. That interview seriously did nothing for my excitement level!

Naw, they won't ditch the voice protagonists or go back to straight-only love interests. I do wonder how much they've changed/added based on feedback from the fans? 

She does mention the question of the month thing. Perhaps that's where they've gathered most of their fan feedback? There was also the "5 things you would like to see in DA:I" thread that seemed like a good place to gather info. I would guess that people disliking not being able to change the outfits/armor of their companions for example was something they've altered based on fan reaction. 

I work in a somewhat similar/overlapping field and I can kind of sympathize with the team working on the game. It's always a struggle to balance what your customer wants with what you think/know will work (or with what you want to do). That being said fan feedback shouldn't be ingored simply because they are not professional game makers. So I suppose I'm happy so long as they actually implement something that the fans have asked for into the game instead of just listening to them (which they seem to be doing).

[littlenikki]

LolaLei wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

Okay I watched the interview, and what I could from it is indeed that I should Asunder (NO.) and that they are listening to the fans. No really, they're listening. Promise. Totally listening. HONEST.

Sigh. Wouldn't be surprised if we ended up back with a silent protagonist and straight-only love interests. That interview seriously did nothing for my excitement level!

Naw, they won't ditch the voice protagonists or go back to straight-only love interests. I do wonder how much they've changed/added based on feedback from the fans though? 

I hope if they do stick w/ the PC-sexual LIs (aka everyone's bi) that they create different cutscenes for each gender. I dont know why that bothered me, but it just seemed less "special" to see the same cutscene for my female and male Hawke when they both romanced the same person. Not a deal breaker though, I'll take whatever I can get really 

[R2s Muse]

The responding to fans is probably just what MLaw said back at PAX East last year. Choices that matter. No waves in combat. Etc.

[R2s Muse]

Just catching up... Protagonist hints in trailer? I'm calling it now. EELS! Inquisitor grew up as an eel farmer. Now they're her personal mascot. ;P

[LolaLei]

JediBeagle wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

Okay I watched the interview, and what I could from it is indeed that I should Asunder (NO.) and that they are listening to the fans. No really, they're listening. Promise. Totally listening. HONEST.

Sigh. Wouldn't be surprised if we ended up back with a silent protagonist and straight-only love interests. That interview seriously did nothing for my excitement level!

Naw, they won't ditch the voice protagonists or go back to straight-only love interests. I do wonder how much they've changed/added based on feedback from the fans? 

She does mention the question of the month thing. Perhaps that's where they've gathered most of their fan feedback? There was also the "5 things you would like to see in DA:I" thread that seemed like a good place to gather info. I would guess that people disliking not being able to change the outfits/armor of their companions for example was something they've altered based on fan reaction. 

I work in a somewhat similar/overlapping field and I can kind of sympathize with the team working on the game. It's always a struggle to balance what your customer wants with what you think/know will work (or with what you want to do). That being said fan feedback shouldn't be ingored simply because they are not professional game makers. So I suppose I'm happy so long as they actually implement something that the fans have asked for into the game instead of just listening to them (which they seem to be doing).

They didn't really ask much when they were doing question of the month. Most of it was about marketing and stuff rather than the actual game. As for the "5 things you would like to see in DA:I" and thread like that most consisted of "Cullen as a companion/LI", so if we do get him as such then we'll know they were listening, lol!

[R2s Muse]

neonmoth wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

It just seems a little odd that Cassandra would be bossing people around like that if she is indeed supposed to be a companion, because that's our job. So either she's not a companion at all and is just an important npc, or that was a character swap for the benefit of the trailer.

I actually thought it was more of a case of scene staging than character swapping, since the knife part was so much in character for her. But now I don't know. Since they told us that none of what we've seen can be true, then how to speculate #grumble

this was also my thought, that the staging was probably also just for trailer. Table stabbing has got to be just a bone thrown to the fans. Could be anyone in that room looking at troop positions on a map. 

[Twice a Lady]

R2s Muse wrote...

Just catching up... Protagonist hints in trailer? I'm calling it now. EELS! Inquisitor grew up as an eel farmer. Now they're her personal mascot. ;P

I would so be on board to have eels be associated with my protag. Like instead of carrier pigeons, it's highly trained stealthy sneak through water ways eels..... Yup. I'm now officially sold on eels! 

[JediBeagle]

@LolaLei I missed almost all of the questions of the month so I have no idea what they talked about over there. Hopefully the voice of the masses was heard and we get Cullen though Although the rest of the forum seems to have a very different take on him, lots of crazymagekiller! talk going on. It's kinda scary out there.

[R2s Muse]

They did do a detailed analysis of he responses in that very first DA3 thread, back on the DA2 forums when they first announced the Next Big Thing. I'd bet that's the extent of their formal input gathering, tho.

[LolaLei]

I wonder if we'll have access to one of those sending/seeing stone thingys from the Asunder novel? Those could be handy to keep in contact with our agents and factions.

[LolaLei]

JediBeagle wrote...

@LolaLei I missed almost all of the questions of the month so I have no idea what they talked about over there. Hopefully the voice of the masses was heard and we get Cullen though Although the rest of the forum seems to have a very different take on him, lots of crazymagekiller! talk going on. It's kinda scary out there.

There wasn't any questions asked that we could really get Cullen in there, but don't worry ALL the devs are more than aware of us and him, we've spent a good year making sure he's unmissable LOL! 

[Twice a Lady]

LolaLei wrote...

JediBeagle wrote...

@LolaLei I missed almost all of the questions of the month so I have no idea what they talked about over there. Hopefully the voice of the masses was heard and we get Cullen though Although the rest of the forum seems to have a very different take on him, lots of crazymagekiller! talk going on. It's kinda scary out there.

There wasn't any questions asked that we could really get Cullen in there, but don't worry ALL the devs are more than aware of us and him, we've spent a good year making sure he's unmissable LOL! 

idk, after the events of DA2 and where his character stood on the final ground, I was pretty much convinced that they had future plans for him in the games and that he was going to be in the next one. The fact that we were never given the option to fight him/kill him kinda sealed the deal for me. It was like they were preserving him for later.

[LolaLei]

R2s Muse wrote...

They did do a detailed analysis of he responses in that very first DA3 thread, back on the DA2 forums when they first announced the Next Big Thing. I'd bet that's the extent of their formal input gathering, tho.

Not gonna lie, I do wonder if the things they have taken into account are things that they had planned to change/sort out anyway, like the reuse of environments and stuff.

[LolaLei]

Twice a Lady wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

JediBeagle wrote...

@LolaLei I missed almost all of the questions of the month so I have no idea what they talked about over there. Hopefully the voice of the masses was heard and we get Cullen though Although the rest of the forum seems to have a very different take on him, lots of crazymagekiller! talk going on. It's kinda scary out there.

There wasn't any questions asked that we could really get Cullen in there, but don't worry ALL the devs are more than aware of us and him, we've spent a good year making sure he's unmissable LOL! 

idk, after the events of DA2 and where his character stood on the final ground, I was pretty much convinced that they had future plans for him in the games and that he was going to be in the next one. The fact that we were never given the option to fight him/kill him kinda sealed the deal for me. It was like they were preserving him for later.

For someone who was so unimportant in DA:O I still find it weird that he became pretty important from the templar/mage perspective. I know the rebellion isn't the main plot of DAI but it's still gonna play a fairly important part in the game. It just seems weird that they retconned his epilogues to put him into DA2 when they could've used any other templar we encountered in DA:O.

[LolaLei]

I just hope he doesn't show up in this new novel with the Empress of Orlais in it, if he does then chances are we'll have even less of a chance to get him as a companion/LI, though I have no idea how he'd plausibly play a part in it, so it's unlikely.

[Adela]

LolaLei wrote...

I just hope he doesn't show up in this new novel with the Empress of Orlais in it, if he does then chances are we'll have even less of a chance to get him as a companion/LI, though I have no idea how he'd plausibly play a part in it, so it's unlikely.

whats the empress has to do  with culllen li?

[LolaLei]

ag99 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I just hope he doesn't show up in this new novel with the Empress of Orlais in it, if he does then chances are we'll have even less of a chance to get him as a companion/LI, though I have no idea how he'd plausibly play a part in it, so it's unlikely.

whats the empress has to do  with culllen li?

Nothing per se, but the comics and novels always tend to end up with at least one known character in them, be it a past companion or npc. It's likely that at least one character we've met or had as a companion in previous games will play a part/show up in the novel. In Asunder it was Shale and Wynne. 

I guess I'm just wondering if maybe he'll show up in this new novel as someone helping the Empress do whatever it is the novel is about, or will make a cameo with some new woman in tow who turns out to be his wife or goodness knows what, lol.

I'm likely just being silly, but you can never tell with the writers lol.

Modifié par LolaLei, 21 juin 2013 - 07:00 .

[Adela]

yeaaaa if someone turns out to be his wife i will murder knife her....jk or not idk cullen should be married to the inquisitor just saying