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Me, being such a fan of angst, wishes that there could be something special for those who romance him as a mage. Like him sacrificing himself to save their life at the end or something. *dodges thrown objects* Not that I want him to die. xD Lord no, especially if we finally get our hands on him~ but the potential for heartache and love that will leave you sobbing on the floor can make the romance up to that point so much sweeter. Or I'm just twisted. Take you're pick. lol

I just don't see how they would make a romance between him and a mage work as far as it being forbidden. So if it is a possibility, I'm going into it expecting a terrible outcome. Maybe any other class could be normal but I doubt that they'd put resources into that.

Ups, it seems I should read all posts before I start to reply with my not-so-fresh comments :] I like angst in games as long as we are not forced into it all over the place, so if there is at least one happy path for my pc (may be very difficult to achieve, I don't mind), I love exploring all the uncomfortable choices. To be honest I would like as much variety as it is possible since it gives more choice for role playing. Hence having Cullen die in particular circumstances would be fine with me. IHe doesn't need to die though. I could imagine many different scenarios in which he would have to sacrifice his life as it was or his personal happiness. I can see him doing doing it since he so much about serving greater thing.

Edit for ToP: Thinking about all those angst inducing scenarios gives Cullen a headache ;)

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Alistairschica wrote...

Me, being such a fan of angst, wishes that there could be something special for those who romance him as a mage. Like him sacrificing himself to save their life at the end or something. *dodges thrown objects* Not that I want him to die. xD Lord no, especially if we finally get our hands on him~ but the potential for heartache and love that will leave you sobbing on the floor can make the romance up to that point so much sweeter. Or I'm just twisted. Take you're pick. lol

I just don't see how they would make a romance between him and a mage work as far as it being forbidden. So if it is a possibility, I'm going into it expecting a terrible outcome. Maybe any other class could be normal but I doubt that they'd put resources into that.

I agree. While I think a mage romance would be the most interesting in many ways with Cullen, I doubt they'd spend resources to make class-dependent content like that just for a romance. I could see an option for any LI to take the killing blow for you, tho. I personally never did the US in DA:O, but I hear it's very dramatic!

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Alistairschica wrote...

Hello, ladies~

Sorry to poke my nose in. New to this thread but not to Cullen love. Dat Templar. This has probably been brought before but I was wondering what ya'll would like to see a possible romance with him involve. I'm keeping my hopes low so that I don't get crushed yet again.

Since he was clearly in love with Amell, would you want that to be an issue? Especially with a mage Inquisitor or would you rather it not be mentioned at all?

That question popped into my head while playing Witch Hunt yesterday. Going back to the Tower after being gone for so long only to hear those two NPC:
"Too bad Cullen's not here."
"He's not still carrying a torch for her, is he?"

All the times I've played it, and I never heard that. Lord, that 'romance' is heartbreaking.


First, welcome! We love newcomers.

On the Amell romance, I think you bring up a potentially sticky point about his inclusion as a romance. Not because I think it's clear that he was actually involved with Amell (because I don't think the game supports that it was more than an unrequited crush) but because there are lots of Wardens that headcanon that it did. I think his mentions of Amell in DA2 make it seem like he remembers her fondly, like many do with a first crush, but I would hope that it wouldn't be treated as more than that moving forward. But who knows...

Everything depends how it would be resolved. If he cherished her memory without talking about her all the time then I'm fine. Even though I like his infatuation ^_^ with fMage and don't mind the pairing in ff, if he is a LI in DAI I honestly hope he moved on. He brings so much baggage with him, that past yet still present love would be an overkill.

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neonmoth wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Alistairschica wrote...

Hello, ladies~

Sorry to poke my nose in. New to this thread but not to Cullen love. Dat Templar. This has probably been brought before but I was wondering what ya'll would like to see a possible romance with him involve. I'm keeping my hopes low so that I don't get crushed yet again.

Since he was clearly in love with Amell, would you want that to be an issue? Especially with a mage Inquisitor or would you rather it not be mentioned at all?

That question popped into my head while playing Witch Hunt yesterday. Going back to the Tower after being gone for so long only to hear those two NPC:
"Too bad Cullen's not here."
"He's not still carrying a torch for her, is he?"

All the times I've played it, and I never heard that. Lord, that 'romance' is heartbreaking.


First, welcome! We love newcomers.

On the Amell romance, I think you bring up a potentially sticky point about his inclusion as a romance. Not because I think it's clear that he was actually involved with Amell (because I don't think the game supports that it was more than an unrequited crush) but because there are lots of Wardens that headcanon that it did. I think his mentions of Amell in DA2 make it seem like he remembers her fondly, like many do with a first crush, but I would hope that it wouldn't be treated as more than that moving forward. But who knows...

Everything depends how it would be resolved. If he cherished her memory without talking about her all the time then I'm fine. Even though I like his infatuation ^_^ with fMage and don't mind the pairing in ff, if he is a LI in DAI I honestly hope he moved on. He brings so much baggage with him, that past yet still present love would be an overkill.

Yes, better said! I mean, sure a crush/ infatuation/whatever is fine... but don't go on and on about it! That would extremely awkward. My concern, however, is more that the writers would avoid making him an LI altogether because of that potential awkwardness. I think they did it well in DA2, tho, so I'm hopeful.

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Happy Independence day! Please don't drown any more of our tea, it's a sacred thing! :lol:<3

LOL Why do you think they picked tea in the first place! ;)

Happy Fourth, americanos! Enjoy the fireworks. Or lack thereof. As the case may be. Ahem. <_<

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Happy Independence Day everybody. I get to work so I'm happy *sigh*.

As for the question at hand I think it would be fine as long as it's an optional dialogue tree. The problem I see with Cullen and the Amell romance is that the developers have to balance how much they either don't mention or do mention, too much and it's still a romance with Amell, but too little and they're missing out on a great chance to show how much he's changed. I mean this was his first crush was a forbidden romance you can't really forget about that but you can't really focus on it either

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well if they allow to import saves from other games in DAI u can avoid the mentioning of amell if u didnt play as one i for one wont be importing the Amell save im gonna import the one where i played as a rogue i dont want him to have any memory of anyone in DAI same thing i did with da2

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Happy fourth of July my friends from the south!

we certainly are moving in this thread aren't we? We are the queens and kings of the thread of minor characters lol

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well if they allow to import saves from other games in DAI u can avoid the mentioning of amell if u didnt play as one i for one wont be importing the Amell save im gonna import the one where i played as a rogue i dont want him to have any memory of anyone in DAI same thing i did with da2


Well the romance occurs independent of whether you played as an Amell or not. Whether she is alive or imprisoned is all we really control if we import a different origin.

I mean I doubt they'll put it in but if it did show up I wouldn't be entirely surprised.

On a side note you guys think that Varric will be a companion or just a bigger part of the story? I mean I'm not entirely sure what roles he and Morrigan will play. I'm sure Morrigan will have a huge part but he isn't really that significant now.

I'm really looking forward to the first companion reveal who do you all think it will be?

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Danny Boy 7 wrote...


I'm really looking forward to the first companion reveal who do you all think it will be?


well tbh i would like Cullen ofc ( i guess thats kind of a given  for me to expect that since i became freaking obsessed with this character) but if he would be the 1st one i dont want him to become a red shirt and be killed like all the other 1st companions in BW games  so i guess in that case i will take Cassandra just to be safe :P

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Danny Boy 7 wrote...

ag99 wrote...

well if they allow to import saves from other games in DAI u can avoid the mentioning of amell if u didnt play as one i for one wont be importing the Amell save im gonna import the one where i played as a rogue i dont want him to have any memory of anyone in DAI same thing i did with da2


Well the romance occurs independent of whether you played as an Amell or not. Whether she is alive or imprisoned is all we really control if we import a different origin.

I mean I doubt they'll put it in but if it did show up I wouldn't be entirely surprised.

On a side note you guys think that Varric will be a companion or just a bigger part of the story? I mean I'm not entirely sure what roles he and Morrigan will play. I'm sure Morrigan will have a huge part but he isn't really that significant now.

I'm really looking forward to the first companion reveal who do you all think it will be?


Well, I don't think the "romance" happens if Amell is a male. 

First companion reveal, I'll split my bet between Varric or Cassandra, most likely Cass. 

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VampOrchid wrote...

Happy fourth of July my friends from the south!

we certainly are moving in this thread aren't we? We are the queens and kings of the thread of minor characters lol


happy 4th of july  to u too vamp

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Yeah Amell crush (not romance) doesn't occur if Amell/Surana is a male, and in all my playthroughs, no matter what origin I choose, he is male :P

And yes, you do forget and move on from your first crushes by the time you reach Cullen's age; trust me, once you are in your 30s, the stupid stuff you did in your teens and early 20s, all those sad angsty tears you cried, it's all pretty much just a laugh.

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First companion reveal... I was wrong on every account for the trailer reveal *cry* So I will assume they will continue to be super traditional, and it will be a female, the canon love interest. Or it will be Cassandra. (For some reason, I don't think Cass will be a LI.)

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littlenikki wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

ag99 wrote...

well if they allow to import saves from other games in DAI u can avoid the mentioning of amell if u didnt play as one i for one wont be importing the Amell save im gonna import the one where i played as a rogue i dont want him to have any memory of anyone in DAI same thing i did with da2


Well the romance occurs independent of whether you played as an Amell or not. Whether she is alive or imprisoned is all we really control if we import a different origin.

I mean I doubt they'll put it in but if it did show up I wouldn't be entirely surprised.

On a side note you guys think that Varric will be a companion or just a bigger part of the story? I mean I'm not entirely sure what roles he and Morrigan will play. I'm sure Morrigan will have a huge part but he isn't really that significant now.

I'm really looking forward to the first companion reveal who do you all think it will be?


Well, I don't think the "romance" happens if Amell is a male. 

First companion reveal, I'll split my bet between Varric or Cassandra, most likely Cass. 


well uh yeah :? Lol

I totally forgot they could be male.

Cassandra seems like a good choice. Was Aveline or Varric first last time? Depending on who might influence the decision. 

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motomotogirl wrote...

First companion reveal... I was wrong on every account for the trailer reveal *cry* So I will assume they will continue to be super traditional, and it will be a female, the canon love interest. Or it will be Cassandra. (For some reason, I don't think Cass will be a LI.)


Moto! Hey! Why you gonna say that, you cut me deep lol. I think she will but I'm not gonna count on it just in case. 

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Danny Boy 7 wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

First companion reveal... I was wrong on every account for the trailer reveal *cry* So I will assume they will continue to be super traditional, and it will be a female, the canon love interest. Or it will be Cassandra. (For some reason, I don't think Cass will be a LI.)


Moto! Hey! Why you gonna say that, you cut me deep lol. I think she will but I'm not gonna count on it just in case. 


I would love her to be, for your sake alone :P 

But the trailer made me think she won't be. She will be too busy leading armies and such... I can't imagine there ever being a trailer of Aveline leading armies or something. How can Cassandra be as powerful as she is and then just fall in line as a companion on an adventure. Also, she will be nearing 40, and that probably makes developers nervous (never mind that a majority of gamers are mature).

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Varric will be a companion.
Cassandra might not.
Morrigan will definitely not.
I hope I win a cookie tiara.

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Danny Boy 7 wrote...

ag99 wrote...

well if they allow to import saves from other games in DAI u can avoid the mentioning of amell if u didnt play as one i for one wont be importing the Amell save im gonna import the one where i played as a rogue i dont want him to have any memory of anyone in DAI same thing i did with da2


Well the romance occurs independent of whether you played as an Amell or not. Whether she is alive or imprisoned is all we really control if we import a different origin.

I mean I doubt they'll put it in but if it did show up I wouldn't be entirely surprised.

On a side note you guys think that Varric will be a companion or just a bigger part of the story? I mean I'm not entirely sure what roles he and Morrigan will play. I'm sure Morrigan will have a huge part but he isn't really that significant now.

I'm really looking forward to the first companion reveal who do you all think it will be?



Danny! Happy Fourth!

Hmm, I don't think that I would say that the Amell or Surana crush happens independent of having an Amell import. For example, those extra lines in Cullen's DA2 codex only happen if you do the appropriate import. I would expect the same for the DAI.

On companion reveal.. gah, I have no idea. I go back and forth on whether Varric would be a companion again. I'd vote against Morrigan. Cassandra probably. Maybe we should have another pool... ;)

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Scr0ll wrote...

Varric will be a companion.
Cassandra might not.
Morrigan will definitely not.
I hope I win a cookie tiara.


COOKIE TIARA!!! Def the next prize! Bwahaha!

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Hooray! I finally figured out why I couldn't find any of your guy's pawns on DD (offline mode...total facepalm moment) Thanks Kurt for letting me know my guy wasn't showing up!

(Cullen is good, Cullen is great) <---My on-topic addition

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R2s Muse wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

ag99 wrote...

well if they allow to import saves from other games in DAI u can avoid the mentioning of amell if u didnt play as one i for one wont be importing the Amell save im gonna import the one where i played as a rogue i dont want him to have any memory of anyone in DAI same thing i did with da2


Well the romance occurs independent of whether you played as an Amell or not. Whether she is alive or imprisoned is all we really control if we import a different origin.

I mean I doubt they'll put it in but if it did show up I wouldn't be entirely surprised.

On a side note you guys think that Varric will be a companion or just a bigger part of the story? I mean I'm not entirely sure what roles he and Morrigan will play. I'm sure Morrigan will have a huge part but he isn't really that significant now.

I'm really looking forward to the first companion reveal who do you all think it will be?



Danny! Happy Fourth!

Hmm, I don't think that I would say that the Amell or Surana crush happens independent of having an Amell import. For example, those extra lines in Cullen's DA2 codex only happen if you do the appropriate import. I would expect the same for the DAI.

On companion reveal.. gah, I have no idea. I go back and forth on whether Varric would be a companion again. I'd vote against Morrigan. Cassandra probably. Maybe we should have another pool... ;)


My recent PT was with a dwarf import, and I spoke to Cullen a lot. He never mentioned Amell, nor was she mentioned in DAO when I rescued the tower. But with my Amell import, yes, I got the extra bits in DAO, as well as the "remarkable woman" dialog in DA2. So I don't think it occurs independantly. :)

I'm really hoping Varric is a companion. He was fun to have around in DA2. I just wonder if with so much spotlight on him with the comics, BioWare may say "nah, let's go with someone else." But we shall see! Think his personality might change due to the circumstances?

I don't think Morrigan will be a companion. She might be on the sidelines making things happen like Flemeth...if Flemeth hasn't taken her body, that is. :blink:

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I'm on PS3 with a level 70 something warrior. Username is Xendria. Not sure how this game works for when you've finished the game.. So I don't know if my pawn'll show up till I start up New Game + or not. Husband's playing it now, and I'm on to Baldur's Gate! Guess I'll find out later.

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I think Morrigan will pop up in Orlais, and if you don't get a mission or more from her, I think she'll have something to do with a mission. If they stick with what was said about her being in the court, we may just bump into her. Hard to tell how it'll end up, though.

Not so sure about Cassandra being a companion now, either. Too powerful and in position of leadership. It seemed like, anyway. If she's not companion, probably will get missions from her.

I hope Varric is a companion again, personally. I wonder if his humour would change at all because of current events? And it'd be funny to see him and Cassandra interact because of that past interrogation.

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Lord Xendria wrote...

I'm on PS3 with a level 70 something warrior. Username is Xendria. Not sure how this game works for when you've finished the game.. So I don't know if my pawn'll show up till I start up New Game + or not. Husband's playing it now, and I'm on to Baldur's Gate! Guess I'll find out later.

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I think Morrigan will pop up in Orlais, and if you don't get a mission or more from her, I think she'll have something to do with a mission. If they stick with what was said about her being in the court, we may just bump into her. Hard to tell how it'll end up, though.

Not so sure about Cassandra being a companion now, either. Too powerful and in position of leadership. It seemed like, anyway. If she's not companion, probably will get missions from her.

I hope Varric is a companion again, personally. I wonder if his humour would change at all because of current events? And it'd be funny to see him and Cassandra interact because of that past interrogation.


the thing about Varric  being a companion again worries me because for example Anders in Awakening  use to be pretty fun and come DA2 he was very very diffrent and very little humor  thats why i worry about Varric that he may become something like Anders and not so much fun as he use to be but more serious and bitter about the events that are happening...

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Oh, I know most of my daydreaming will never happen but it certainly helps to pass the time. Such a long way to go still. My romantic brain never saw the Amell thing as just a crush. For it to be mentioned in Origins, Witch Hunt, and DA2 just struck me as kind of odd. I suppose it could be seen as a fanservice sort of thing. For my game, which included the dark ritual, Witch Hunt takes place close to a year after the end of Origins and for him to care about her still by that point after not seeing her since the Circle went crazy....it just says more than a crush to me at least for my playthrough anyway. Or I'm in denial. lol I'm a hopeless romantic. There's no hope for me, really.