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Ain't nobody got time for that sh!t! :lol:


Amen ;)

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I mean, Hawke wasn't to know that Fenris would come crawling back 3 or 4 years later. And if Fenris was leading him/her on with "I love you, but I can't be with you" rubbish then he/she should tell him to bugger off.

Indeed, it makes sense that she would get on with her life. I was imagining that my Hawke had moved on to Anders, but had settled into a sorta unromantic, day to day steady relationship after he moved in. So, then the Fenris Isabela hook up brings it all back again and makes her re-examine her relationship with Anders. I had a Cullen joke in it that was my first inkling of my future obsession... LOL The rest, as they say, is history.

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I mean, Hawke wasn't to know that Fenris would come crawling back 3 or 4 years later. And if Fenris was leading him/her on with "I love you, but I can't be with you" rubbish then he/she should tell him to bugger off.

Indeed, it makes sense that she would get on with her life. I was imagining that my Hawke had moved on to Anders, but had settled into a sorta unromantic, day to day steady relationship after he moved in. So, then the Fenris Isabela hook up brings it all back again and makes her re-examine her relationship with Anders. I had a Cullen joke in it that was my first inkling of my future obsession... LOL The rest, as they say, is history.


What would've been more interesting/realistic is if Fenris had either done a disappearing act for years (instead of Isabela) or if years later after Hawke had struck up a relationship with one of the other companions Fenris comes to her/him one evening declaring what a huge mistake he's made and how he always loved her/him AND THEN Hawke has to decide whether to stay with her/his new love interest, or take Fenris back.

Now THAT'S something I could get behind. Ample drama and angst, tough decision etc. What's not to like! Especially if Fenris showed up looking particularly handsome. 

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I mean, imagine the first ever playthrough of DA2 if that had actually happened! There we'd be thinking Fenris had buggered off for good, so we find another love interest begrudgingly/through choice/for something to "do"/because he/she has moved on, and then all of a sudden the bugger shows up out of the blue looks all broody and hot and we'd have to decide whether to jump him there and then for a final night of passion, or tell him to sod off, or take him back etc.

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LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I mean, Hawke wasn't to know that Fenris would come crawling back 3 or 4 years later. And if Fenris was leading him/her on with "I love you, but I can't be with you" rubbish then he/she should tell him to bugger off.

Indeed, it makes sense that she would get on with her life. I was imagining that my Hawke had moved on to Anders, but had settled into a sorta unromantic, day to day steady relationship after he moved in. So, then the Fenris Isabela hook up brings it all back again and makes her re-examine her relationship with Anders. I had a Cullen joke in it that was my first inkling of my future obsession... LOL The rest, as they say, is history.


What would've been more interesting/realistic is if Fenris had either done a disappearing act for years (instead of Isabela) or if years later after Hawke had struck up a relationship with one of the other companions Fenris comes to her/him one evening declaring what a huge mistake he's made and how he always loved her/him AND THEN Hawke has to decide whether to stay with her/his new love interest, or take Fenris back.

Now THAT'S something I could get behind. Ample drama and angst, tough decision etc. What's not to like! Especially if Fenris showed up looking particularly handsome. 


ya i liked that in DAO when u had to choose between either Alistair or Zevran  or Morrigan or Leliana , and they would kinda both made their "cases" in expressing how much they care about u and stuff pitty that they didnt do that in DA2

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LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I mean, Hawke wasn't to know that Fenris would come crawling back 3 or 4 years later. And if Fenris was leading him/her on with "I love you, but I can't be with you" rubbish then he/she should tell him to bugger off.

Indeed, it makes sense that she would get on with her life. I was imagining that my Hawke had moved on to Anders, but had settled into a sorta unromantic, day to day steady relationship after he moved in. So, then the Fenris Isabela hook up brings it all back again and makes her re-examine her relationship with Anders. I had a Cullen joke in it that was my first inkling of my future obsession... LOL The rest, as they say, is history.


What would've been more interesting/realistic is if Fenris had either done a disappearing act for years (instead of Isabela) or if years later after Hawke had struck up a relationship with one of the other companions Fenris comes to her/him one evening declaring what a huge mistake he's made and how he always loved her/him AND THEN Hawke has to decide whether to stay with her/his new love interest, or take Fenris back.

Now THAT'S something I could get behind. Ample drama and angst, tough decision etc. What's not to like! Especially if Fenris showed up looking particularly handsome. 

LOL Definitely angsty. I have a hard time imagining Fenris being the burst in and declare his love kinda guy, but that kind of trigger (another relationship) would have made more sense.

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R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I mean, Hawke wasn't to know that Fenris would come crawling back 3 or 4 years later. And if Fenris was leading him/her on with "I love you, but I can't be with you" rubbish then he/she should tell him to bugger off.

Indeed, it makes sense that she would get on with her life. I was imagining that my Hawke had moved on to Anders, but had settled into a sorta unromantic, day to day steady relationship after he moved in. So, then the Fenris Isabela hook up brings it all back again and makes her re-examine her relationship with Anders. I had a Cullen joke in it that was my first inkling of my future obsession... LOL The rest, as they say, is history.


What would've been more interesting/realistic is if Fenris had either done a disappearing act for years (instead of Isabela) or if years later after Hawke had struck up a relationship with one of the other companions Fenris comes to her/him one evening declaring what a huge mistake he's made and how he always loved her/him AND THEN Hawke has to decide whether to stay with her/his new love interest, or take Fenris back.

Now THAT'S something I could get behind. Ample drama and angst, tough decision etc. What's not to like! Especially if Fenris showed up looking particularly handsome. 

LOL Definitely angsty. I have a hard time imagining Fenris being the burst in and declare his love kinda guy, but that kind of trigger (another relationship) would have made more sense.


Exactly, he's seen Hawke with another lover and is all like RAWR, but in a good way LOL.

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Tbh, I could see Cullen pulling a stunt like that, if only because the writers would probably enjoy our fan tears LOL.

But at the same time, I kinda see him as the type of guy who would leave it until right before the eve of the final battle to finally declare his love and give in to the good stuff.

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LolaLei wrote...

Tbh, I could see Cullen pulling a stunt like that, if only because the writers would probably enjoy our fan tears LOL.

But at the same time, I kinda see him as the type of guy who would leave it until right before the eve of the final battle to finally declare his love and give in to the good stuff.


if they pull a thing like that with Cullen i dont care if he leaves like Fenris did or not i will wait for that man lol ill make my inquisitor a virgin till his ready :D

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Okay let's ease up on the Fenris bashing. :P My favorite character and all, you know :whistle: 

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LolaLei wrote...

Tbh, I could see Cullen pulling a stunt like that, if only because the writers would probably enjoy our fan tears LOL.

But at the same time, I kinda see him as the type of guy who would leave it until right before the eve of the final battle to finally declare his love and give in to the good stuff.

I suppose it would all depend on what his Good Reason™ was for ditching you in the first place. In Cullen's case, I could see Duty and Principle making him think he's not worthy. It would then be nice to see something raw and primal like jealousy finally make him get his head out of his ass. Heh heh.

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That's something that always annoys me in films/tv shows/books/games etc. If the other character cheats first or does something sh!tty, the protagonist (who may have later done something equally sh!tty) never gets to say "well, you done it to me first!" Or whatever when said character is trying to take the moral high ground with the protagonist.


I hate it when the LI cheats, the hero calls them on it and the writers come up with some contrived reason as to why the hero is actually in the wrong. 


Hero: I can't believe you cheated!
LI: It's not what it looks like!
Hero: Don't lie to me!
LI: ...
Hero: ...
LI: You're a coward!
Hero: Wait what?
LI: You couldn't handle our feelings!

... What normally happens

Hero: You're right I'm sorry...
Me: facepalm

... What I want to happen

Hero: YOU CHEATED *****!
LI: Coward...
Hero: *strangles LI*

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Okay let's ease up on the Fenris bashing. :P My favorite character and all, you know :whistle: 

I don't think anyone's bashing Fenris, though... :blink: It's more an issue with the writing and how the three year gap in the relationship is pretty problematic.

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ag99 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Tbh, I could see Cullen pulling a stunt like that, if only because the writers would probably enjoy our fan tears LOL.

But at the same time, I kinda see him as the type of guy who would leave it until right before the eve of the final battle to finally declare his love and give in to the good stuff.


if they pull a thing like that with Cullen i dont care if he leaves like Fenris did or not i will wait for that man lol ill make my inquisitor a virgin till his ready :D


I'm not sure what I'd do tbh. I mean, presumably DAI won't be taking place over the course of 7 years lol. So, my guess would be that if Cullen did do a disappearing act it would be for a good reason for a few months. Now, I could see my protagonist remaining single for a few months lol, so she would wait. If, however, it was years then in reality she wouldn't (because she would be me) and if it's one thing I don't do, it's pine after a man for years on end. :lol:

As for waiting until Cullen was ready to "give away the goods", sure, she'd wait until he's ready. Nowt wrong with that, so long as he doesn't go shag someone else whilst she's patiently waiting, LOL!

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R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Tbh, I could see Cullen pulling a stunt like that, if only because the writers would probably enjoy our fan tears LOL.

But at the same time, I kinda see him as the type of guy who would leave it until right before the eve of the final battle to finally declare his love and give in to the good stuff.

I suppose it would all depend on what his Good Reason™ was for ditching you in the first place. In Cullen's case, I could see Duty and Principle making him think he's not worthy. It would then be nice to see something raw and primal like jealousy finally make him get his head out of his ass. Heh heh.


Cullen jealous... now that would be intresting:devil:

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motomotogirl wrote...

Okay let's ease up on the Fenris bashing. :P My favorite character and all, you know :whistle: 

I don't think anyone's bashing Fenris, though... :blink: It's more an issue with the writing and how the three year gap in the relationship is pretty problematic.


Yeah, I have no problem with Fenris at all, I just wish we could've seen/been told more about what happened in between those passing years when they weren't together.

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Okay... he's just a character who receives A LOT of hate on the forums, so I get protective of my baby lol

Yeah there are lots of things regarding DA2 that could have been better written, but even with what little time and resources they had, the writers still did amazing work, and I'm grateful for a character and romance like Fenris.

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It's like, Anders romance is boring as hell. Once you've got him in the sack then that's it, which is a shame since there was a lot of potential with his storyline and Justice.

Modifié par LolaLei, 22 juillet 2013 - 08:40 .


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Okay... he's just a character who receives A LOT of hate on the forums, so I get protective of my baby lol

Yeah there are lots of things regarding DA2 that could have been better written, but even with what little time and resources they had, the writers still did amazing work, and I'm grateful for a character and romance like Fenris.


agreed , same here i like Fenris i thought he was  the most decent male chraracter to romance to me Anders for some reason seemed more genereic i never really liked him Fenris on the other hand yum yum:devil: and i specially  like how well the VA played him that voice fits him well IMO

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motomotogirl wrote...

Okay... he's just a character who receives A LOT of hate on the forums, so I get protective of my baby lol

Yeah there are lots of things regarding DA2 that could have been better written, but even with what little time and resources they had, the writers still did amazing work, and I'm grateful for a character and romance like Fenris.


Fenris is awesome imo but I unfortunately don't use him that often. I kind of love his background and the whole competition for lyrium thing.

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ag99 wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Tbh, I could see Cullen pulling a stunt like that, if only because the writers would probably enjoy our fan tears LOL.

But at the same time, I kinda see him as the type of guy who would leave it until right before the eve of the final battle to finally declare his love and give in to the good stuff.

I suppose it would all depend on what his Good Reason™ was for ditching you in the first place. In Cullen's case, I could see Duty and Principle making him think he's not worthy. It would then be nice to see something raw and primal like jealousy finally make him get his head out of his ass. Heh heh.


Cullen jealous... now that would be intresting:devil:

Agree! I love writing jealous!Cullen. It was a big plot point for me in Knight's Bloom. Heh heh. Oh yeah, Sebastian-Cullen triangle. :wub::wub::devil:

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Danny Boy 7 wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

Okay... he's just a character who receives A LOT of hate on the forums, so I get protective of my baby lol

Yeah there are lots of things regarding DA2 that could have been better written, but even with what little time and resources they had, the writers still did amazing work, and I'm grateful for a character and romance like Fenris.


Fenris is awesome imo but I unfortunately don't use him that often. I kind of love his background and the whole competition for lyrium thing.

LOL I don't think he ever leaves my party in any playthrough. He's like the center of my team... and I think I start out romancing him in every PT except for Sebastian romance (YESSS ! IT'S REAL!!! *lalalalala*).

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It's like, Anders romance is boring as hell. Once you've got him in the sack then that's it, which is a shame since there was a lot of potential with his storyline and Justice.

Yeah, it's for this reason that I was playing with the idea that your relationship with him could become like old married couple who start having sex less and less often, and he's all about work mage revolution. LOL

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I could see Cullen getting jealous quite easily if an npc or other companion is flirting, although I always kinda imagine that whilst he's trying to hide/fight his feelings for the protagonist his jealousness would accidentally slip out via biting comments, or dirty looks aimed at the npc/companion etc, followed by puppy eyes and longing looks towards the protagonist. But once he's actually with the protagonist he'd be full on "back off!" Towards anyone who tried their luck lol.

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LolaLei wrote...

I could see Cullen getting jealous quite easily if an npc or other companion is flirting, although I always kinda imagine that whilst he's trying to hide/fight his feelings for the protagonist his jealousness would accidentally slip out via biting comments, or dirty looks aimed at the npc/companion etc, followed by puppy eyes and longing looks towards the protagonist. But once he's actually with the protagonist he'd be full on "back off!" Towards anyone who tried their luck lol.


that would be AWESOME imo i would find it kinda qute actually :wub: