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MissRedZelda wrote...

Xena was my childhood. I'm kinda surprised my parents actually let me watch it (I was quite young when it began airing), but I think I turned out juuuuust fine. *Drinks from a skull whiling firing a gun in the air* Sorry, I need to do that every twelve minutes.

. . . . . Nostalgia Critic joke.

The Campbell Bower idea wasn't mine, meanieweenie, son no need to worry about insulting me :-) I agree with you, anyway. He is a bit too young to play Cullen. Alistair maybe, but not Cullen.

Which actually brings up a question, how old is Cullen supposed to be in DA:O? He's clearly not old at the beginning of DA:O, and I've always theorised that the mage PC is in her/his early 20s.And he's not a full Templar yet, to boot.


Honestly, he looks pretty ****ing old in DA:O. But I reckon they'll retcon it down to the age of 18/19 if they mention it at all in DA3.

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LOL I think I missed the first season or two of Xena myself until I friend turned me onto it in grad school. Heh, so there you go. Ahem. :)

re: Cullen's age, we had a pretty wide ranging discussion about it not too long ago here... probably before page 200. I think our general consensus was that he's in his early thirties in Act 3? Trying to remember now, but we were putting him around Hawke's age, 25-26ish in 9:30. This is also probably Amell's approximate age as well, since there's a line in DA2 about Revka's child that seems to place her existence before Leandra got pregnant with Hawke, i.e. older than Hawke.

Anyway, those were our best guesses. :shrug: Who knows!

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Gotta run gals! See you next time. :)

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Here's a slightly off topic question:

In DA2 they decided to present the game as a story told by Varric of past events that had already happened. What kind of technique do you think they'll employ for DA3.

I think it would be kinda cool if it was done in one big near death flash back leading up to the point where you discover why your character is near death, then once you got to that point you'd do the boss battle as your companions save you from your fate.

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meanieweenie wrote...

Gotta run gals! See you next time. :)


Nighty night! Gotta run as well!

edit: altho, Lola, I like that idea. You experience the beginning of the last act, and then segue to "Six months earlier," or whatever, to see the first two acts. I honestly find the technique kinda stale in TV now, since it's overused, but for a game, I think it would be awesome. Kinda like Varric's lie at the beginning, you get to experience a high-lev character early on, then downshift back to a level 1.

Modifié par R2s Muse, 26 juin 2012 - 02:04 .


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Ok, picture the scene:

The game opens with a cut scene through the eyes of someone who has just had seven shades of sh!t kicked out of them. You see them (from their POV) fall to the ground as several people stand around kicking and spitting on said person. His/her vision starts to blur as he/she bleeds out. Everything slowly begins to fade as the attackers finally cease and walk away as you hear the muffled sounds of laugher and/or talking as he/she slips into unconciousness *fade to black.* It's made clear that said person is in a bad way and is close to death but you're led to believe that it's probably just some random important person you'll have to save later on. (This entire scene plays out from a first person perspective so you never see who's been attacked.)

Finally the game begins like usual as you're introduced to the new protagonist and the epilogue/origin intro begins, with a different background origin based on your class, each narrated by your character to which he/she gives you a little information about themselves and the area he/she lives in. You then play through your characters short origin epilogue and continue to play the game like normal, doing quests, meeting new companions... shagging Cullen etc :P. Then either midway through the game or near the very end your character gets seperated from the group and ends up getting the crap kicked out of him/her in some massively dramatic scenario, eventually triggering the cutscene from the beginning but this time not only do you get it from a first person perspective but from a 3rd person POV too, enabling you to see the enemy approaching and witness the beating they give your character that leads him/her to be left for dead, switching between both perspectives to add to the poignancy *fade to black.* By then it'll occured to us that it was actually our character we saw getting beaten in the opening credits and everything up until that point was your protagonist re-living his/her "final days" in the form of one big flashback. If done correctly everyone should be thinking "****? Did I **** something up? Is it game over??" Then suddenly from your characters point of view his/her eyes open slowly, everything looks blurry and the light distorts everything for a moment, as his/her eyes adjust you can see your LI (in our case Cullen) looking down on you, with a worried, frantic expression and calls for help because you're panicking and thrashing around (you hear your characters breath quicken etc) as a healer Mage comes in and casts some spell/makes you drink something to sedate you (your characters eyes close again as you see the worried expressions of all your companions beside you, still in first person POV.) When his/her eyes finally open again you realise you're in an unfamiliar room in a tavern, or at Anders new base of operation in his clinic *que Anders cameo* with your LI sitting at your bedside as he/she tells you how they found you near death etc. After that you carry on with the game in "real time", find out why you were almost killed, do a few more quests, fight bad guys and eventually do the final boss battle... and then shag Cullen again LOL. :lol:

Modifié par LolaLei, 26 juin 2012 - 04:47 .


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Something else I kinda like the idea of (which actually seems really cheesy) would be an intro to the protagonists origins sorta like the Beauty & the Beast intro in which it's done in the form of pictures from a story book/stain glass window/painting/whatever. Or just with the sweeping birds eye view camera angle going across the environment that he/she lives in as the protagonist narrates a little about his/her background before you get to actively start playing:





*Edit* Thinking back, they did kinda do something similar in DA:O but I think they could have gone into it more so and used it to amp up the atmosphere levels futher.

Modifié par LolaLei, 26 juin 2012 - 04:22 .


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LolaLei wrote...

Something else I kinda like the idea of (which actually seems really cheesy) would be an intro to the protagonists origins sorta like the Beauty & the Beast intro in which it's done in the form of pictures from a story book/stain glass window/painting/whatever. Or just with the sweeping birds eye view camera angle going across the environment that he/she lives in as the protagonist narrates a little about his/her background before you get to actively start playing:





*Edit* Thinking back, they did kinda do something similar in DA:O but I think they could have gone into it more so and used it to amp up the atmosphere levels futher.


Oh my gosh! I suggested that musical theme a whilwe ago! I'm so glad soeone remembered! :-D It's so perfect for the Magi origin, isn't it? I would love to see something like that playing while the story is narrated through stain-glass paintings.

EDIT: Sorry for the double post. I don't know how to delete previous posts :(

Modifié par MissRedZelda, 26 juin 2012 - 09:21 .


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haven't seen this posted here in a while lol so yeah thought I would put it here ;)

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VampOrchid wrote...



haven't seen this posted here in a while lol so yeah thought I would put it here ;)


Aaaah, so pretty!

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Good morning. I know you discussed this earlier, but when i think of Cullen, i picture Jai Courtney. He played in Spartacus and to me he's a close version of him.

*sorry im new to this, and if i knew how to post a pic on here i would post his. i'll keep working on it*

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Woah, just totally played the ME3 EC ending dlc... talk about some heartbreaking scene in that one! I swear if DA3 try to pull a stunt like that with Cullen and the new protagonist I'll scream the place down LOL!

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ME3 dlc is out?

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adurnal wrote...

ME3 dlc is out?

LOL yeah, apparently it comes out today... which probably means a brief moment of silence in the Thedas universe while people react. :D

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yea gonna have to try it. thanks i haven't been paying attention.

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adurnal wrote...

Good morning. I know you discussed this earlier, but when i think of Cullen, i picture Jai Courtney. He played in Spartacus and to me he's a close version of him.

*sorry im new to this, and if i knew how to post a pic on here i would post his. i'll keep working on it*


Ooh, interesting! I've never heard of him before.

Incidentally, adurnal, for images, all you have to do is use [ img ] http://blah.blah.url.of.image. [ / img] but without the spaces within the square brackets. Here are some HowTo page, if you like:
http://social.biowar.../9/index/994591
http://social.biowar...45845/1#6325026

So, like this: 300x238http://2media.nowpublic.net/images//e2/15/e2152073450ba96e4a95cddbafb4459b.jpg[/img]

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LolaLei wrote...

Woah, just totally played the ME3 EC ending dlc... talk about some heartbreaking scene in that one! I swear if DA3 try to pull a stunt like that with Cullen and the new protagonist I'll scream the place down LOL!


So, here's my one and only question, not having played ME3 yet. Do you feel like you finally got closure?

Modifié par R2s Muse, 26 juin 2012 - 04:35 .


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R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Woah, just totally played the ME3 EC ending dlc... talk about some heartbreaking scene in that one! I swear if DA3 try to pull a stunt like that with Cullen and the new protagonist I'll scream the place down LOL!


So, here's my one and only question, not having played ME3 yet. Do you feel like you finally got closure?


Kinda... I mean, it would have been nice to see Shepard and his/her crew/LI reunited in the epilogue but it is heavily implied that they do all reunite if your EMS is high enough and you pick the destroy option (which does pretty much kill EDI and the Geth, but I'm sure they can be fixed again.)

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Wow the DA2 forum is deathly silent again, the ME3 ending dlc must have caused it. Tbh I'm still in a daze over it... I have a horrible feeling I'm gonna be all sad and nerd ragey when it all sinks in properly.

So, I guess now that ME3 have done their thing the lime light is going to be all over the DA team. Anyway wanna take any guesses at when you think more DA3 related news will come out? My bet is August sometime after the ME3 dlc hype has calmed down again.

... I swear if they kill off my Warden, Alistair or Cullen I'll flip.

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R2s Muse wrote...

adurnal wrote...

Good morning. I know you discussed this earlier, but when i think of Cullen, i picture Jai Courtney. He played in Spartacus and to me he's a close version of him.

*sorry im new to this, and if i knew how to post a pic on here i would post his. i'll keep working on it*


Ooh, interesting! I've never heard of him before.

Incidentally, adurnal, for images, all you have to do is use [ img ] http://blah.blah.url.of.image. [ / img] but without the spaces within the square brackets. Here are some HowTo page, if you like:
http://social.biowar.../9/index/994591
http://social.biowar...45845/1#6325026

So, like this: 300x238http://2media.nowpublic.net/images//e2/15/e2152073450ba96e4a95cddbafb4459b.jpg[/img]



thanks for the help.   yea i never heard of him either unitl we started watching Spartacus: Blood and Sand.  anyways it was the blonde hair and the curls that made me think of Cullen. 

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LolaLei wrote...

Wow the DA2 forum is deathly silent again, the ME3 ending dlc must have caused it. Tbh I'm still in a daze over it... I have a horrible feeling I'm gonna be all sad and nerd ragey when it all sinks in properly.

So, I guess now that ME3 have done their thing the lime light is going to be all over the DA team. Anyway wanna take any guesses at when you think more DA3 related news will come out? My bet is August sometime after the ME3 dlc hype has calmed down again.

... I swear if they kill off my Warden, Alistair or Cullen I'll flip.



I just got the DLC downloaded, might get to play it tonight.   I hate how you have to play online to get your stuff high enough to save shep.  irks me.   
I thot the Warden story was over with?  
 

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adurnal wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

adurnal wrote...

Good morning. I know you discussed this earlier, but when i think of Cullen, i picture Jai Courtney. He played in Spartacus and to me he's a close version of him.

*sorry im new to this, and if i knew how to post a pic on here i would post his. i'll keep working on it*


Ooh, interesting! I've never heard of him before.

Incidentally, adurnal, for images, all you have to do is use [ img ] http://blah.blah.url.of.image. [ / img] but without the spaces within the square brackets. Here are some HowTo page, if you like:
http://social.biowar.../9/index/994591
http://social.biowar...45845/1#6325026

So, like this: 300x238http://2media.nowpublic.net/images//e2/15/e2152073450ba96e4a95cddbafb4459b.jpg[/img]



thanks for the help.   yea i never heard of him either unitl we started watching Spartacus: Blood and Sand.  anyways it was the blonde hair and the curls that made me think of Cullen. 

Heh heh, no problem!  And, I'm sure it was the hair, the curls and ... maybe the ripply muscles? :D Still haven't seen Spartacus, but it's on my list. My R-rated, only watch after the kiddies are in bed list.

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LolaLei wrote...

So, I guess now that ME3 have done their thing the lime light is going to be all over the DA team. Anyway wanna take any guesses at when you think more DA3 related news will come out? My bet is August sometime after the ME3 dlc hype has calmed down again.

... I swear if they kill off my Warden, Alistair or Cullen I'll flip.


Ugh, I honestly have no idea. I know I always hear these crazy theories based on the last games... but it seems like all bets are off this time around (taking into account, of course, that two previous data points do not really a pattern make...). I'd just like for them to officially announce that it's in production! But, yours is probably a good guess. Wait for the ME3 furor to die down and then send us into a new frenzy with DA3 news. :P

Come to think of it, I guess the next thing on the horizon will be the new comics...in Aug I believe?

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Helloooooooooooooo ladies!

Well, now that the ME3 stuff is done maybe ComicCon will turn up some DA3 info in July. Did they do anything for ComicCon last year? I'm thinking yes but I don't really recall for sure. Guess I need to look that up...

Update: Yup. Looks like last year was ME3 stuff and the DA dlc. http://whennerdsattack.com/?p=2595

Modifié par meanieweenie, 26 juin 2012 - 10:57 .