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Doesn't Merrill say something about the Dread Wolf tricking the gods and imprisoning them in heaven, or am I mixing that up with Norse mythology LOL

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Thanks Wiedzmin

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Old Gods... maybe the elves' gods?


That makes a bit more sense. Hm, intriguing!

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Interesting! Five pointed stars now. And the figures around the door seem to have, I dunno, serpent legs??

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Merrill mentions that Fen'Harel locked away the ebil elven gods in the abyss and the good ones in heaven. The Old Gods however were locked away in the Deep Roads. Presumably (and this is just my speculation), but one of them is in Antiva with Yavana's corpse.

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It's a verse from the Chant of Light. It's one of my faves, because it suggests that the Old Gods are actually the Maker's first children, the spirits of the Fade.


Silence 3

The Old Gods will call to you,
From their ancient prisons they will sing.

Dragons with wicked eyes and wicked hearts,
On blacken'd wings does deceit take flight,
The first of My children, lost to night.

-Silence 3:6, Dissonant Verse

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It also supports the notion that some of the demons coming out of the Fade rip are dragons, along with some of the hints from Yavana in the comics, that "before the Veil" was a time of dragons.

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So in theory if those old gods are calling to us, then that's probably due to the veil rip.

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LolaLei wrote...

So in theory if those old gods are calling to us, then that's probably due to the veil rip.

Well, I've always thought that verse was about how the Old Gods whispered to the Tevinter Magisters, teaching them magic and convincing them to breach the Golden City. So, presumably, the Old Gods could "call" to more than just the dawkspawn.

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Have you guys noticed that they're releasing these pieces of concept art from PAX Aus slowly? It makes me wonder if it's like a build up to this info release they've been promising us "soon".

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Since they're quoting from the Chant of Light, which is very old, I wouldn't expect it to be a quote specifically about the current day Veil breach. It would suggest to me that the concept art is perhaps an Old God temple.

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R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

So in theory if those old gods are calling to us, then that's probably due to the veil rip.

Well, I've always thought that verse was about how the Old Gods whispered to the Tevinter Magisters, teaching them magic and convincing them to breach the Golden City. So, presumably, the Old Gods could "call" to more than just the dawkspawn.

Maybe "calling" to anyone weak enough to fall prey to their influence? Image IPB

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R2s Muse wrote...

It also supports the notion that some of the demons coming out of the Fade rip are dragons, along with some of the hints from Yavana in the comics, that "before the Veil" was a time of dragons.


I wonder than if the veil was a way to keep a large portion of the worst demons and dragons out, but when the magisters walked into the Golden City or even the Black City it ripped a whole in the veil allowing demons to enter the world for the first time. 

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meanieweenie wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

So in theory if those old gods are calling to us, then that's probably due to the veil rip.

Well, I've always thought that verse was about how the Old Gods whispered to the Tevinter Magisters, teaching them magic and convincing them to breach the Golden City. So, presumably, the Old Gods could "call" to more than just the dawkspawn.

Maybe "calling" to anyone weak enough to fall prey to their influence? Image IPB


Well, with this veil rip I imagine it'll be easier for them to possess people!

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R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

So in theory if those old gods are calling to us, then that's probably due to the veil rip.

Well, I've always thought that verse was about how the Old Gods whispered to the Tevinter Magisters, teaching them magic and convincing them to breach the Golden City. So, presumably, the Old Gods could "call" to more than just the dawkspawn.


This is the theory I came up with as well.

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LolaLei wrote...

Have you guys noticed that they're releasing these pieces of concept art from PAX Aus slowly? It makes me wonder if it's like a build up to this info release they've been promising us "soon".

I thought these were new... Wiedzmin posted a pic of the ones Cam showed... albeit not terribly easy to see. I don't think this or the castle one were among them, were they...?  I can't find it immediately.

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R2s Muse wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

OK, yeah, my husband also thought using Sie was weird. You know what... as a non-German-speaker... to me that sounds like a mistake a non-German speaker would make. Like, if I were writing that sentence in Spanish, and the word for castle were feminine, then I could use the feminine pronoun there (altho I wouldn't for other reasons...), my point being that I could easily see myself pushing that rule onto German. So, sounds like that's an awkward construction in German, then. Then, I still vote for non-German speaker translating it... which probably means any differences tell us exactly nothing! LOL Ah well. Thanks!!


Could the castle simply be referred to as "she"? The same way ships, planes, etc. are given feminine pronouns.

I just find it hard to believe that they don't have a staffer who is fluid in German updating the German twitter and FB pages. 

According to Chantirose, no. But I agree, it's odd.



I'm trying to explain it, but I apologize if I make no sense. A castle has a no gender pronoun.

"Das Schloss" = The Castle

If you're using it in a sentence however without the name (castle, fortress) you use "Es" 

So, if you would say the "castle is hidden", you'd say "Das Schloss is versteckt" but if you want to say that it's hidden without using the word castle, fortress, you're saying "Es ist versteckt"

For a objects you mostly use "es", if you refer to it without the name.

I'm sorry, german is so hard to explain and my english isn't flawless either :pinched:

*Edit*

Nevermind, if you use the word "Burg" everything I just said goes out the window. It's "Die Burg" and if you want to say that it's hidden, you would say "Sie ist versteckt". Honestly, thats embarassing.

Modifié par Chiantirose1982, 31 juillet 2013 - 06:50 .


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R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Have you guys noticed that they're releasing these pieces of concept art from PAX Aus slowly? It makes me wonder if it's like a build up to this info release they've been promising us "soon".

I thought these were new... Wiedzmin posted a pic of the ones Cam showed... albeit not terribly easy to see. I don't think this or the castle one were among them, were they...?  I can't find it immediately.


I believe Elitepinecone from the Twitter thread mentioned that the graveyard screenshot was from the pax panel.

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Danny Boy 7 wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Have you guys noticed that they're releasing these pieces of concept art from PAX Aus slowly? It makes me wonder if it's like a build up to this info release they've been promising us "soon".

I thought these were new... Wiedzmin posted a pic of the ones Cam showed... albeit not terribly easy to see. I don't think this or the castle one were among them, were they...?  I can't find it immediately.


I believe Elitepinecone from the Twitter thread mentioned that the graveyard screenshot was from the pax panel.

Yeah... he did. Drat have to go back to vid I guess. Can't find that pic.

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NOPE! I stand corrected. This was the first concept art shot Cam showed that we only caught a glimpse of. The bones pic was second, followed by the Qunari/dragon pic, which is presumably next to be released to the masses.

About this one, Cam said, "it's kind of like a desert and sort of oasis and water... hidden locations. This is in the game at the moment. It's pretty badass, actually."

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Danny Boy 7 wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

It also supports the notion that some of the demons coming out of the Fade rip are dragons, along with some of the hints from Yavana in the comics, that "before the Veil" was a time of dragons.


I wonder than if the veil was a way to keep a large portion of the worst demons and dragons out, but when the magisters walked into the Golden City or even the Black City it ripped a whole in the veil allowing demons to enter the world for the first time. 

I love this idea.

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R2s Muse wrote...

NOPE! I stand corrected. This was the first concept art shot Cam showed that we only caught a glimpse of. The bones pic was second, followed by the Qunari/dragon pic, which is presumably next to be released to the masses.

About this one, Cam said, "it's kind of like a desert and sort of oasis and water... hidden locations. This is in the game at the moment. It's pretty badass, actually."


I wonder if this will be a side quest that we can just come across.

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Danny Boy 7 wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

NOPE! I stand corrected. This was the first concept art shot Cam showed that we only caught a glimpse of. The bones pic was second, followed by the Qunari/dragon pic, which is presumably next to be released to the masses.

About this one, Cam said, "it's kind of like a desert and sort of oasis and water... hidden locations. This is in the game at the moment. It's pretty badass, actually."


I wonder if this will be a side quest that we can just come across.

Or even a main quest, and we need to use some ancient Old God cult artifact/knowledge to fix the Veil rip or learn about it?? I'm so excited!  If Old Gods are in the game, I'm SO there. I mean... I suppose I was anyway, but  yayyyy!!! <3<3:wizard:

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R2s Muse wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

It also supports the notion that some of the demons coming out of the Fade rip are dragons, along with some of the hints from Yavana in the comics, that "before the Veil" was a time of dragons.


I wonder than if the veil was a way to keep a large portion of the worst demons and dragons out, but when the magisters walked into the Golden City or even the Black City it ripped a whole in the veil allowing demons to enter the world for the first time. 

I love this idea.


It might explain why we've never seen a fear demon before. I wonder of that's what Cole is. Would explain why he's invisible.

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R2s Muse wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

NOPE! I stand corrected. This was the first concept art shot Cam showed that we only caught a glimpse of. The bones pic was second, followed by the Qunari/dragon pic, which is presumably next to be released to the masses.

About this one, Cam said, "it's kind of like a desert and sort of oasis and water... hidden locations. This is in the game at the moment. It's pretty badass, actually."


I wonder if this will be a side quest that we can just come across.

Or even a main quest, and we need to use some ancient Old God cult artifact/knowledge to fix the Veil rip or learn about it?? I'm so excited!  If Old Gods are in the game, I'm SO there. I mean... I suppose I was anyway, but  yayyyy!!! <3<3:wizard:


Maybe that red ring is what we're looking for there. Gah I wish those rings were what we're looking for, but alas...