Aller au contenu

Photo

The Official Knight-Captain Cullen Discussion thread 2.0.


89415 réponses à ce sujet

#55201
LolaLei

LolaLei
  • Members
  • 33 006 messages
Do any of you know where I can find a video of Cullen warning Hawke that he's been hearing rumours of him/her being a mage. I've already got the Bethany one.

#55202
LolaLei

LolaLei
  • Members
  • 33 006 messages
So I'm still working on this Cullen dialogue video. I'm amazed at how much more ambient dialogue you get with him when you go pro-templar.

I've decided to do one video per Act. Each Act will contain ALL of Cullen's dialogue options for each tone, including ambient dialogue. Once I've finished doing his DA2 dialogue I'll move onto his DA:O dialogue, so once I've finished we'll have his entire story arc (so far) mapped out ready for DAI.

Modifié par LolaLei, 04 août 2013 - 01:29 .


#55203
Adela

Adela
  • Members
  • 6 633 messages
Thats pretty cool he will get to have his own lil story I tried to search for a video where Cullen tells Hawke about rumors that he heard about him but so far I had no luck.

Cant wait to see how the convo went with Cullen when u use the aggressive approach i never really use that one i always use either diplomatic or sarcastic

#55204
VampOrchid

VampOrchid
  • Members
  • 3 537 messages

motomotogirl wrote...

VampOrchid wrote...

Uggghh

So this is off topic, but I really have to share. Very rarely in life do I cry...I mean it's RARE.

But I've been watching this guy on youtube now for just over a year...he has vids on how to draw using photoshop and flash...anyways, he did a 'draw my life video'...damn it I cried.!!

Here's the link to the vid

Why am I sharing this? Well for one thing, I kept thinking he reminds me of someone...the low and behold in the comments someone points it out

They ask him if he'd ever played Dragon Age cause he sounds and looks like Alistair, and by gosh now that it has been pointed out I have to agree!

Anyways, for those of my friends here who draw you should check it out, all his stuff really helps. For those of you who don't, the video is really good and his vidz are usually pretty entertaining


Thanks for sharing... made me cry, too. I was fine until the bit about his friend... my heart broke for him. And losing his religion, can relate to that. And his cat <3 My cat is sitting on my lap as we speak lol


Ugh same. I like Jazza, and that one was just...ugh<3

#55205
LolaLei

LolaLei
  • Members
  • 33 006 messages

ag99 wrote...

Thats pretty cool he will get to have his own lil story


Huh? What little story?

#55206
LolaLei

LolaLei
  • Members
  • 33 006 messages
Interesting, if you use the aggressive tone with Cullen during the Enemies Among Us quest he'll mention that Keran is a "good boy" and instead of saying how people in the brothel won't speak with him in case he shuts them down, he instead says they fear "we" will shut them down.

He's a lot less open and more stern with an agressive Hawke, even though Hawke doesn't actually insult him or anything, lol.

#55207
LolaLei

LolaLei
  • Members
  • 33 006 messages
Oh, R2 you're right! Now that I'm using that Cullen head mod for my Hawke and recording/editing Cullen's scenes with my Cullen-Hawke in them, I can see that the modded head isn't quite right..

The modded Cullen-head looks more gaunt and his eyes are slightly smaller, he also doesn't have the dark purple circles around his eyes like the real Cullen does. It's a very close likeness though, but you can see that it's not a perfect reconstruction when both are in shot. No one would notice on the fan videos though, lol.

Proper Cullen is more attractive than the one used for head swaps.

Modifié par LolaLei, 04 août 2013 - 04:47 .


#55208
CuriousArtemis

CuriousArtemis
  • Members
  • 19 656 messages
On xbox you can just flat out swap his head for one of the companions (though not Hawke's). I thought about replacing Anders' head with his, but that would just be too weird lol

#55209
ilikesocks

ilikesocks
  • Members
  • 1 355 messages
*cries because she doesn't have an xbox, therefore, preventing the replacement of Ander's stupid head with Cullen's awesome face*

The wait is too much. Geeeeeeeeeeeez. Fall 2014... smh.

#55210
Kirrahe1

Kirrahe1
  • Members
  • 695 messages
Hello ladies and gentlemen of the Cullen thread! Long time Lurker first time poster lol.
As I mentioned above, I have been following this thread for a while and I really enjoy a lot of the things you guys have to say. You lot have one heck of a sense of humor I will give you that. I know that you have covered so many things in regards to this character but if you don’t mind I wanted to readdress a topic you were talking about a while ago about PTSD. I just had to stop lurking and get in on it and yes I am crazy late to the game, and also uhh sorry for being off topic. As a side note, this will be crazy long and I apologize : )

Now my job more or less entails trauma and crisis counseling and you guys would be shocked at how cruel other people can be when engaging with victimized individuals. As just one example, I worked with a woman who had been sexually assaulted. When she told her best friend what had happened, the friend essentially said “Yeah, it sucks but it happens to a lot of people so get over it.” So people’s judgmental and unforgiving attitudes over Cullen’s character really aren’t that surprising. I am weirdly fascinated about reading different people’s reactions to this character because while he is a work of fiction, the responses folks have are very frequently textbook. In my opinion this is proof of a really well written character because people have the capacity to hate him so much, and others have the ability to examine his outlining circumstances and make opinions based on those. Another aspect of how well written this was, was his list of symptoms for PTSD. I can think of 10 right off the top off my head. But I will save you all the pain of listing them lol

What I wanted to do was open a separate line of discussion about his potential of romancing a mage. As I mentioned before I have worked with a lot of people who have gone through abuse and trauma. One big thing I have noticed is that while a person’s hatred of an attacker may subside, the fear they may have is much, much more difficult to overcome. For example, if you have a person who is harmed by someone of a different race, they often times (not always mind you) have an intense and terrible fear and/or hatred of whatever race/gender/social class the attacker was. This in only logical however, if a young black woman is attacked by one or many white men it would only make sense that for the rest of her life she fear that race. It is just a method of self preservation and a symptom of psychological trauma. For people to accuse her of being a racist may be true, but it is a certainly justifiable fear.
I would imagine it would be no different for Cullen with mages and for people to expect him to just get over it and not hate them is absurd. He absolutely should not be in a position of power over them but seeing as how he is probably addicted to lyrium his options are extremely limited.

As you all know at one point in the game Cullen talks about how mages are weapons. In one of my classes there was a video of an Iraq solider who had been tortured. His psychiatrist tried explaining that not everyone from the Middle East would condone torture. The solider began going into a very similar rant (so similar I almost wonder if one of the writers hadn’t seen the video at some point) about how members of the Muslim community and the Middle East, (all of them, he wasn’t willing or able to differentiate) weren’t really people and shouldn’t be trusted. Originally this solider had absolutely no bias against Muslims. But because of the event he had suffered through his fear compounded into hatred. This man discussed these things a few years after he had finished serving. People who usually go through something extremely traumatic can take years and years of therapy depending on how sever the trauma was.

SO sorry it is taking this long, but back to my main question. The thing is, realistically Cullen may be able to romance a mage if he is a romance in DAI (Please Bioware make this happen) but I would be extremely surprised if he was able to permanently commit to him/her because it just wouldn’t be realistic. In the real world it would be very difficult (but again certainly not impossible) for a person to overcome that much fear of a group of people. I can see something much more Alistair in nature occurring where you romance him but mitigating circumstances make him unable or unwilling to progress the relationship. This love would be especially impossible if your character used blood magic. So what do you guys think? Would you prefer to see a more realistic version of the romance or is the subject of romancing him as a mage to tantalizing to give up without a super happy ending?

#55211
Chiantirose1982

Chiantirose1982
  • Members
  • 630 messages

Kirrahe1 wrote...

*snip awesome stuff*


Really interesting and really good points.

Do you think  that he is than already somewhat "healing" or dealing with his issues when he is sparing the couple mages, when you side with the Templars?

I wouldn't have a problem if you couldn't romance him on a Mage, makes somewhat sense. So I guess I would be more for a realistic romance.

#55212
ilikesocks

ilikesocks
  • Members
  • 1 355 messages
@kirrahe1 - Personally, I have many playthroughs of DAO and DA2 and I only like to romance a character if it can be done all the way. An example being... Like in DAO, I only romance Alistair as a Human noble because I'm not down with being 'on the side' or his 'mistress'. Point being, IF in DAI you couldn't fully romance Cullen as a mage, I would see that as understandable considering his story so far, However, I wouldn't bother romancing him then if I were playing as a mage if that were the case. Hopefully, there would be some other super pretty awesome character open for a mage romance instead if Cullen couldn't or wouldn't fully romance a mage. I'm all for happily ever after, not so much 'let's have hawt sex" type of romances and that's it... which might be seen as unrealistic to some because a lot of people don't get happy ever afters butttt In my case, I wouldn't settle unless I was truly happy with someone in real life, so my game characters would reflect that. My main one, anyway. I usually play a game out, from all angles, to make sure I get the full experience of the game. I've played many games but the only ones I have ever gotten platinum trophies for are for DAO and DA2 (and Skyrim), because I love them so much, I literally did everything there was to do.

Anyway, like Chiantirose1982 said, I would be more for a realistic romance as well.

#55213
Adela

Adela
  • Members
  • 6 633 messages

LolaLei wrote...

ag99 wrote...

Thats pretty cool he will get to have his own lil story


Huh? What little story?


forgot to mention the arc part but i said that because of  what u said

so once I've finished we'll have his entire story arc (so far) mapped out ready for DAI.


Modifié par ag99, 04 août 2013 - 10:58 .


#55214
Adela

Adela
  • Members
  • 6 633 messages
@kirrahe1
Personally I dont mind if a mage romance doesn't work out because I don't really play as a mage anyways so it wouldn't really bother me in the slightest, and yea I would go for the more realistic rout as well

#55215
Parmida

Parmida
  • Members
  • 1 592 messages
 Hello everyone! I kiss you all! I hope you're all alright.<3
@kirrahe1
But...but....that means....my Bloodmage........he will be forever alone! You have no idea how cruel that is! It's like tying you up and dangling a delicious pie in front of you, you drool and drool and all you get is the smell and sight of the darned said pie!:crying:

Modifié par Parmida, 04 août 2013 - 01:23 .


#55216
R2s Muse

R2s Muse
  • Members
  • 19 877 messages

LolaLei wrote...

Oh, R2 you're right! Now that I'm using that Cullen head mod for my Hawke and recording/editing Cullen's scenes with my Cullen-Hawke in them, I can see that the modded head isn't quite right..

The modded Cullen-head looks more gaunt and his eyes are slightly smaller, he also doesn't have the dark purple circles around his eyes like the real Cullen does. It's a very close likeness though, but you can see that it's not a perfect reconstruction when both are in shot. No one would notice on the fan videos though, lol.

Proper Cullen is more attractive than the one used for head swaps.

Lola, it's really easy on PC to swap his head for the proper head. The reason it's off is because you're using a recreated .mop head in chargen, instead of telling the game to use the .mor file that the actual NPC uses. Like MMG said, you can do it on xbox I guess, too.

If you want the real one, I can give  you the steps. Or you can just e-mail me your save file and I'll modify it for you.

edit: Or alternatively, that original chargen mod I sent you has a Cullen face that's closer.

Modifié par R2s Muse, 04 août 2013 - 01:02 .


#55217
Dirgegun

Dirgegun
  • Members
  • 3 656 messages

Kirrahe1 wrote...

Hello ladies and gentlemen of the Cullen thread! Long time Lurker first time poster lol.
As I mentioned above, I have been following this thread for a while and I really enjoy a lot of the things you guys have to say. You lot have one heck of a sense of humor I will give you that. I know that you have covered so many things in regards to this character but if you don’t mind I wanted to readdress a topic you were talking about a while ago about PTSD. I just had to stop lurking and get in on it and yes I am crazy late to the game, and also uhh sorry for being off topic. As a side note, this will be crazy long and I apologize : )

Now my job more or less entails trauma and crisis counseling and you guys would be shocked at how cruel other people can be when engaging with victimized individuals. As just one example, I worked with a woman who had been sexually assaulted. When she told her best friend what had happened, the friend essentially said “Yeah, it sucks but it happens to a lot of people so get over it.” So people’s judgmental and unforgiving attitudes over Cullen’s character really aren’t that surprising. I am weirdly fascinated about reading different people’s reactions to this character because while he is a work of fiction, the responses folks have are very frequently textbook. In my opinion this is proof of a really well written character because people have the capacity to hate him so much, and others have the ability to examine his outlining circumstances and make opinions based on those. Another aspect of how well written this was, was his list of symptoms for PTSD. I can think of 10 right off the top off my head. But I will save you all the pain of listing them lol

What I wanted to do was open a separate line of discussion about his potential of romancing a mage. As I mentioned before I have worked with a lot of people who have gone through abuse and trauma. One big thing I have noticed is that while a person’s hatred of an attacker may subside, the fear they may have is much, much more difficult to overcome. For example, if you have a person who is harmed by someone of a different race, they often times (not always mind you) have an intense and terrible fear and/or hatred of whatever race/gender/social class the attacker was. This in only logical however, if a young black woman is attacked by one or many white men it would only make sense that for the rest of her life she fear that race. It is just a method of self preservation and a symptom of psychological trauma. For people to accuse her of being a racist may be true, but it is a certainly justifiable fear.
I would imagine it would be no different for Cullen with mages and for people to expect him to just get over it and not hate them is absurd. He absolutely should not be in a position of power over them but seeing as how he is probably addicted to lyrium his options are extremely limited.

As you all know at one point in the game Cullen talks about how mages are weapons. In one of my classes there was a video of an Iraq solider who had been tortured. His psychiatrist tried explaining that not everyone from the Middle East would condone torture. The solider began going into a very similar rant (so similar I almost wonder if one of the writers hadn’t seen the video at some point) about how members of the Muslim community and the Middle East, (all of them, he wasn’t willing or able to differentiate) weren’t really people and shouldn’t be trusted. Originally this solider had absolutely no bias against Muslims. But because of the event he had suffered through his fear compounded into hatred. This man discussed these things a few years after he had finished serving. People who usually go through something extremely traumatic can take years and years of therapy depending on how sever the trauma was.

SO sorry it is taking this long, but back to my main question. The thing is, realistically Cullen may be able to romance a mage if he is a romance in DAI (Please Bioware make this happen) but I would be extremely surprised if he was able to permanently commit to him/her because it just wouldn’t be realistic. In the real world it would be very difficult (but again certainly not impossible) for a person to overcome that much fear of a group of people. I can see something much more Alistair in nature occurring where you romance him but mitigating circumstances make him unable or unwilling to progress the relationship. This love would be especially impossible if your character used blood magic. So what do you guys think? Would you prefer to see a more realistic version of the romance or is the subject of romancing him as a mage to tantalizing to give up without a super happy ending?



Really interesting stuff, but I'm in the camp that believes he can properly recover. It had already been years since what he went through by the end of Dragon Age 2 and we saw him on the mend during the years in game. Does that mean I want to see no evidence of what he went through? No, of course not, but I don't think he is so lost in those thoughts of 'mages aren't like us' that he can't continue his road to recovery. We already saw that he was willing to show innocent mages mercy and wasn't comfortable with killing them all by the end of the game. If that isn't a man well on his way to recovery, I don't know what is. 

...We also have Fenris as an example of someone who was abused, but continued down that road of recovery. Granted Fenris has a whole slew of different issues, and comparing the two isn't fair, but the point I'm trying to make still stands I think?

And to tell the truth, I don't want to see Cullen's character arc, if he is a companion, be entirely about what he went through at the circle. Arguably a huge portion of it should be, because that experience is important to his growth, but as a fan who wants to know more about him, I hope we get to learn more about his history, where he came from, what happened after Hawke, and what he thinks of current events too.

...Admittedly those last thoughs come from a bit of a metagame standpoint, though. I was there. I played Dragon Age: Origins. I know what happened at the circle. Do I know what happened to him exactly? No, and I would like to ask him about it, but if that's ALL he has to say ever then that wouldn't really add to his story or character for me. :lol:

So... I want a realistic romance, but I don't think realistic means mages get kicked to the side or it doesn't work out necessarily. Instead there'd probably just be... things to work through. 

Modifié par Dirgegun, 04 août 2013 - 01:19 .


#55218
R2s Muse

R2s Muse
  • Members
  • 19 877 messages

Kirrahe1 wrote...

Hello ladies and gentlemen of the Cullen thread! Long time Lurker first time poster lol.

Yay! Welcome and stay a while!

Another aspect of how well written this was, was his list of symptoms for PTSD. I can think of 10 right off the top off my head. But I will save you all the pain of listing them lol

Ohmygosh, thank you for saying this. As a complete know-nothing about PTSD, I've been told this by folks who have claimed "to know" and then been told the opposite by others who claim "to know."  Confusing to say the least, except that it seems--to me--only natural that Cullen should have lingering issues from his trauma.

The thing is, realistically Cullen may be able to romance a mage if he is a romance in DAI (Please Bioware make this happen) but I would be extremely surprised if he was able to permanently commit to him/her because it just wouldn’t be realistic. In the real world it would be very difficult (but again certainly not impossible) for a person to overcome that much fear of a group of people. I can see something much more Alistair in nature occurring where you romance him but mitigating circumstances make him unable or unwilling to progress the relationship. This love would be especially impossible if your character used blood magic. So what do you guys think? Would you prefer to see a more realistic version of the romance or is the subject of romancing him as a mage to tantalizing to give up without a super happy ending?

Hmm, good questions. re: a happy ending, I suppose I'd want something sort of in the middle. I'd be okay if it wasn't a super happy ending, but a kinda hopeful ending? If that makes sense. Like, he doesn't just walk away from the protagonist, but may acknowledge that he still has issues he needs to work through, or something like that. Of course... so long as I could get my super happy ending with another class (and ignoring my doubts that they would put in the resources to diversify the story by class...).

I'm not personally invested in playing a mage since it's not my favorite class to play, but I would be interested to try it out with Cullen (if he were a LI) for all these reasons. I guess I've always thought that he could get past his fears with an individual he trusted. Not that he/she would "cure" Cullen with love, but that perhaps he could differentiate his blanket fear for the specifics of the individual.  And that this could help him to heal. This probably isn't realistic, though, particularly based on what you're saying!

So, in short, I guess I'd want a dose of reality with my fantasy, but not too much. LOL

Modifié par R2s Muse, 04 août 2013 - 01:20 .


#55219
R2s Muse

R2s Muse
  • Members
  • 19 877 messages

Dirgegun wrote...

And to tell the truth, I don't want to see Cullen's character arc, if he is a companion, be entirely about what he went through at the circle. Arguably a huge portion of it should be, because that experience is important to his growth, but as a fan who wants to know more about him, I hope we get to learn more about his history, where he came from, what happened after Hawke, and what he thinks of current events too.

...Admittedly those last thoughs come from a bit of a metagame standpoint, though. I was there. I played Dragon Age: Origins. I know what happened at the circle. Do I know what happened to him exactly? No, and I would like to ask him about it, but if that's ALL he has to say ever then that wouldn't really add to his story or character for me. :lol:

So... I want a realistic romance, but I don't think realistic means mages get kicked to the side or it doesn't work out necessarily. Instead there'd probably just be... things to work through.

You know, you've touched on something I'd prefer as well. I know full well that those experiences are a huge part of who the character is... but I would also love to see his continuing growth instead of dwelling on his past. Sort of how I hope they don't harp on the Amell crush from his past. Sure, it happened, it's part of his character development and shouldn't be ignored, but I'd also like to see the next chapter in his evolution.

Easier said if he's a companion, of course, instead of just a minor NPC. *sniff* Although, I feel like a master of building something out of nothing now after spending 5+ DA2 playthroughs convinced he's crushing on my Hawke. LOL  :wizard:

#55220
Dirgegun

Dirgegun
  • Members
  • 3 656 messages

R2s Muse wrote...

Dirgegun wrote...

And to tell the truth, I don't want to see Cullen's character arc, if he is a companion, be entirely about what he went through at the circle. Arguably a huge portion of it should be, because that experience is important to his growth, but as a fan who wants to know more about him, I hope we get to learn more about his history, where he came from, what happened after Hawke, and what he thinks of current events too.

...Admittedly those last thoughs come from a bit of a metagame standpoint, though. I was there. I played Dragon Age: Origins. I know what happened at the circle. Do I know what happened to him exactly? No, and I would like to ask him about it, but if that's ALL he has to say ever then that wouldn't really add to his story or character for me. :lol:

So... I want a realistic romance, but I don't think realistic means mages get kicked to the side or it doesn't work out necessarily. Instead there'd probably just be... things to work through.

You know, you've touched on something I'd prefer as well. I know full well that those experiences are a huge part of who the character is... but I would also love to see his continuing growth instead of dwelling on his past. Sort of how I hope they don't harp on the Amell crush from his past. Sure, it happened, it's part of his character development and shouldn't be ignored, but I'd also like to see the next chapter in his evolution.

Easier said if he's a companion, of course, instead of just a minor NPC. *sniff* Although, I feel like a master of building something out of nothing now after spending 5+ DA2 playthroughs convinced he's crushing on my Hawke. LOL  :wizard:


There's also the fact that he's a character and not a real person. That doesn't mean his past should be ignored, of course, but where people can lose themselves in the past and not recover from this in real life... characters need to evolve and move on. Even characters who are lost in their past often have story arcs that are about their development and learning to move on from what was holding them back. For a story to progress so do the characters. 

#55221
R2s Muse

R2s Muse
  • Members
  • 19 877 messages

Dirgegun wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Dirgegun wrote...

And to tell the truth, I don't want to see Cullen's character arc, if he is a companion, be entirely about what he went through at the circle. Arguably a huge portion of it should be, because that experience is important to his growth, but as a fan who wants to know more about him, I hope we get to learn more about his history, where he came from, what happened after Hawke, and what he thinks of current events too.

...Admittedly those last thoughs come from a bit of a metagame standpoint, though. I was there. I played Dragon Age: Origins. I know what happened at the circle. Do I know what happened to him exactly? No, and I would like to ask him about it, but if that's ALL he has to say ever then that wouldn't really add to his story or character for me. :lol:

So... I want a realistic romance, but I don't think realistic means mages get kicked to the side or it doesn't work out necessarily. Instead there'd probably just be... things to work through.

You know, you've touched on something I'd prefer as well. I know full well that those experiences are a huge part of who the character is... but I would also love to see his continuing growth instead of dwelling on his past. Sort of how I hope they don't harp on the Amell crush from his past. Sure, it happened, it's part of his character development and shouldn't be ignored, but I'd also like to see the next chapter in his evolution.

Easier said if he's a companion, of course, instead of just a minor NPC. *sniff* Although, I feel like a master of building something out of nothing now after spending 5+ DA2 playthroughs convinced he's crushing on my Hawke. LOL  :wizard:


There's also the fact that he's a character and not a real person. That doesn't mean his past should be ignored, of course, but where people can lose themselves in the past and not recover from this in real life... characters need to evolve and move on. Even characters who are lost in their past often have story arcs that are about their development and learning to move on from what was holding them back. For a story to progress so do the characters. 

Exactly. Hence why I only want the dose of reality with my fantasy. If it's plausible he could recover... I would hope he does.

#55222
LolaLei

LolaLei
  • Members
  • 33 006 messages

ilikesocks wrote...

*cries because she doesn't have an xbox, therefore, preventing the replacement of Ander's stupid head with Cullen's awesome face*

The wait is too much. Geeeeeeeeeeeez. Fall 2014... smh.


No way, I just read a couple of comments from you on my YouTube Channel! (AbilityDrain).

#55223
LolaLei

LolaLei
  • Members
  • 33 006 messages

Kirrahe1 wrote...

*Snip*

SO sorry it is taking this long, but back to my main question. The thing is, realistically Cullen may be able to romance a mage if he is a romance in DAI (Please Bioware make this happen) but I would be extremely surprised if he was able to permanently commit to him/her because it just wouldn’t be realistic. In the real world it would be very difficult (but again certainly not impossible) for a person to overcome that much fear of a group of people. I can see something much more Alistair in nature occurring where you romance him but mitigating circumstances make him unable or unwilling to progress the relationship. This love would be especially impossible if your character used blood magic. So what do you guys think? Would you prefer to see a more realistic version of the romance or is the subject of romancing him as a mage to tantalizing to give up without a super happy ending?

Thanks for posting this! I'd be really interested in seeing a list of symptoms he's suffering!

As for if I think he'll romance a mage, I'd say (and hope) that he'd catagorically refuse point blank to romance a blood mage, and subsquently dump the protagonist if he/she started using it during their romance arc. Kinda like how Anders will dump Hawke if he/she makes a deal with a demon in the Fade.

I think I could see him romancing a mage, but it would take a lot for him to finally get to the stage where he feels that he can, and even then there's a possibility that he'd end it before the romance progressed fully.

Cullen's story is a unique one in that he's been betrayed by not only mages, but the templars too so his story arc could go in so many different ways... I guess it just depends on what the writers feel is right for him. I just hope that whatever they do with him makes sense and doesn't feel cheapened, rushed or shallow.

#55224
CuriousArtemis

CuriousArtemis
  • Members
  • 19 656 messages
Wow, Kirrahe1!! :o Amazing post! And welcome!

I have to be brief because I'm already late, but I wanted to jump in (since I've been so busy and have missed so many other awesome discussions lately)

So yes, someone brought up Fenris, but Fenris is indeed a different case, as he is a former slave and also a rape victim. Fenris has difficulty shrugging off his slave mentality, and in many ways, I find it uncomfortable to romance him with a mage. Think about how easily Fenris will give in if Hawke gives him up to Danarius. Fenris lives his life holding on to the tiniest sliver of hope; he is that close to despair and giving up and returning to his old ways. I always felt that he should be romanced with a non-mage and then over the years gently helped to accept that not all mages are inherently evil. But even if he never gets there, he shouldn't be blamed.

Cullen also experienced extreme trauma and torture, but not as a slave. Cullen also has position of authority over mages, the opposite of Fenris. So I don't feel there's ever any danger of Cullen "submitting" to mages and admitting he can't overpower them... which is dangerous in its own way. Now Kirrahe1 is the PTSD expert here, so I'm not going to make any statements about whether I think he can recover from that. But to me it does seem as if Cullen could handle falling in love with a mage better than Fenris could. Or let me rephrase that. A relationship between a mage and Cullen could potentially be more healthy than one between Fenris and a mage. However, there could be residual anger issues and mistrust issues in the Cullen x mage relationship. There could be an unequal balance of power (with Cullen putting himself over the mage) that would not be healthy. So I don't know.

Interesting topic!!! Now I'm off... yet again :pinched:

#55225
ilikesocks

ilikesocks
  • Members
  • 1 355 messages

LolaLei wrote...

ilikesocks wrote...

*cries because she doesn't have an xbox, therefore, preventing the replacement of Ander's stupid head with Cullen's awesome face*

The wait is too much. Geeeeeeeeeeeez. Fall 2014... smh.


No way, I just read a couple of comments from you on my YouTube Channel! (AbilityDrain).


Ohai! Got on youtube to watch the weekly inquisition video posted by MisterShizno (love that man's accent :) ) and your Cullen speculation was in the 'Suggested Video' or 'Related Video' not sure. Anyway of course I had to check that out and saw your other DA videos as well.