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[LolaLei]

I can't imagine that there's actually too much left to reveal now, we got the bulk of it the other day. Things will probably be quiet after Dragon Age month is over until the New Year, and then eventually they'd start showing us demos of combat mechanics, the approval/disapproval system and other bits and pieces like that.

[LolaLei]

Y'know, now that we've been given some proper details about the game, in particular the story and protagonist, the wait feels so much easier.

[Adela]

Not for me now it just makes me want to play the game even more

[Shades_Of_Pale]

@Lola: It does, doesn't it? Even though half of me is fuming and wanting more information, particularly on whether Cullen is a companion or just a cameo or not a LI. Once I know this, I can probably relax.
I am excited to see the Character Creator though, I want to make my protagonist so irresistible. And now that multiple races are back, I think I will have more playthroughs on Inquisition than I do on DA2.

Modifié par Shades_Of_Pale, 11 août 2013 - 05:22 .

[LolaLei]

Shades_Of_Pale wrote...

@Lola: It does, doesn't it? Even though half of me is fuming and wanting more information, particularly on whether Cullen is a companion or just a cameo or not a LI. Once I know this, I can probably relax.
I am excited to see the Character Creator though, I want to make my protagonist so irresistible. And now that multiple races are back, I think I will have more playthroughs on Inquisition than I do on DA2.

The character creator is the one thing I'm actually dying to get my hands on asap, just so that I can start working on my protagonist to:

1) See if I can finally recreate a good likeness of myself in a vanilla BioWare game, without mods.

2) Play around with all the options to see exactly how much we can do, and how customisable/unique we can make our protagonists.

Modifié par LolaLei, 11 août 2013 - 05:40 .

[LolaLei]

Something I'm curious about is what sort of backstory our protagonist will have now that the backgrounds have been scrapped. I mean, surely there must be some sort of details or story about our characters life prior to the veil rip, even if it's just shown via codex.

[CuriousArtemis]

LolaLei wrote...

Something I'm curious about is what sort of backstory our protagonist will have now that the backgrounds have been scrapped. I mean, surely there must be some sort of details or story about our characters life prior to the veil rip, even if it's just shown via codex.

It would have to be very generic and not race-specific... like you and your family are part of a traveling caravan of merchants or something. (Wouldn't matter if you were human, elf, or dwarf.)  You're on the road to your next city, and BOOM! veil rip. Everyone dies but you.

Or something like that.

[LolaLei]

motomotogirl wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Something I'm curious about is what sort of backstory our protagonist will have now that the backgrounds have been scrapped. I mean, surely there must be some sort of details or story about our characters life prior to the veil rip, even if it's just shown via codex.

It would have to be very generic and not race-specific... like you and your family are part of a traveling caravan of merchants or something. (Wouldn't matter if you were human, elf, or dwarf.)  You're on the road to your next city, and BOOM! veil rip. Everyone dies but you.

Or something like that.

Yeah, anything like that. I'm guessing it would have to be the same story across all races, unless they're planning to leave it really obscure by the protagonist (regardless of race) being a traveller or whatever. Well, that or the veil rip attack leaves us with amnesia, lol.

Modifié par LolaLei, 11 août 2013 - 06:16 .

[CuriousArtemis]

LolaLei wrote...

Yeah, anything like that. I'm guessing it would have to be the same story across all races, unless they're planning to leave it really obscure by the protagonist (regardless of race) being a traveller or whatever. Well, that or the veil rip attack leaves us with amnesia, lol.

But that would be kind of cool though!  I like the thought of our character being kind of vulnerable initially. But then again, losing all the members of your family to the veil rip could also be heart-wrenching (good storytelling). Much as I loved DA2 though, the loss of the first sibling was pretty meaningless. However, when Tamlin dies in Origins, I was devistated. So losing a family member in the first few minutes can be a gut punch when done right.

[LolaLei]

... Is it bad that I kinda like the idea that we'll be a sole survivor of this veil rip/demon attack? 

I know it's dramatic and cliche, but think of it this way, if Cullen is a companion/LI then we'll instantly have something in common with him. We'll be able to sympathise with his ordeal in the Circle Tower (being that he was one of the only survivors after the tower filled with demons/abominations and blood mages).

From his comments in DA2 it seems like he's probably felt pretty alone in his ordeal and experiences, so to finally find someone who shared a very similar experience (albeit with a couple of slight differences) will be good for him... and hopefully us.

Modifié par LolaLei, 11 août 2013 - 06:49 .

[LolaLei]

motomotogirl wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Yeah, anything like that. I'm guessing it would have to be the same story across all races, unless they're planning to leave it really obscure by the protagonist (regardless of race) being a traveller or whatever. Well, that or the veil rip attack leaves us with amnesia, lol.

But that would be kind of cool though!  I like the thought of our character being kind of vulnerable initially. But then again, losing all the members of your family to the veil rip could also be heart-wrenching (good storytelling). Much as I loved DA2 though, the loss of the first sibling was pretty meaningless. However, when Tamlin dies in Origins, I was devistated. So losing a family member in the first few minutes can be a gut punch when done right.

I'm hoping we'll lose more than family in this veil rip. Like, a whole close community who the our protagonist had grown up with, along with his/her partner, LOL! My poor protagonist.

Modifié par LolaLei, 11 août 2013 - 06:27 .

[CuriousArtemis]

LolaLei wrote...

I'm hoping we'll lose more than family in this veil rip. Like, a whole close community who the our protagonist had grown up with, along with his/her partner, LOL! My poor protagonist.

Exactly; that's why I had that example of a traveling caravan of merchants or something; you lose your parents and siblings, aunts and uncles, fellow merchant families, the matriarch of the whole caravan, the little kid you used to babysit, the young guy who tended the pack animals whom you had a crush on, the girl who was training to be a dancer who was your best friend, etc. etc. Just ultimate and total devistation.

Wow we are kind of sadistic 

[CuriousArtemis]

LolaLei wrote...

... Is it bad that I kinda like the idea that we'll be a soul survivor of this veil rip/demon attack? 

I know it's dramatic and cliche, but think of it this way, if Cullen is a companion/LI then we'll instantly have something in common with him. We'll be able to sympathise with his ordeal in the Circle Tower (being that he was one of the only survivors after the tower filled with demons/abominations and blood mages).

From his comments in DA2 it seems like he's probably felt pretty alone in his ordeal and experiences, so to finally find someone who shared a very similar experience (albeit with a couple of slight differences) will be good for him... and hopefully us.

I hadn't thought of that; as fellow survivors (Cullen being the loan survivor of the DA:O tower situation) we'd have a lot in common. It would be interesting if Cullen tried to convince you that magic is the root of all this evil, while you, despite having lost your entire clan and family to magic, still support mage freedom. That could create a really interesting dynamic.

[LolaLei]

Ok, so in light of the new information my ideal tragic situation for the opening of our character's story is as follows:

He/she was an orphan who was adopted by a family and brought up in a close knit community (hidden away from the templars if you pick the mage class). We'd have the option of a childhood sweetheart (that we can confirm as lovers or pass up via dialogue, kinda like in DA:O with Tamlen). Before sh!t hits the fan we'd get to run around a bit first, exploring what the protagonist's life is like, get to know the important people in his/her life, do a couple of mundane quests, talk to a few npcs, get to grips with the controls etc, AND THEN the veil rip happens (for whatever reason, be it down to something we played a part in, or not). 

The demons pour out and start attacking the village, we and our friend/lover (and maybe one other red shirt temp companion) fight our way through the village trying to save people/save our own arses (depending on if you're playing as a jerk or not). Eventually we get over run, the other temp companion dies, and then a little later on our friend/lover gets killed too (during an explosive/heartbreaking scene). Our character flips out, and continues fighting knowing that it's a losing battle. Eventually we get over run and either lose conciousness only to awaken later to discover just how much destruction has been caused, or Varric/Cassandra stumble upon us and take us to safety... or Flemeth swoops in, picks us up and saves our butt.

[LolaLei]

motomotogirl wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

... Is it bad that I kinda like the idea that we'll be a soul survivor of this veil rip/demon attack? 

I know it's dramatic and cliche, but think of it this way, if Cullen is a companion/LI then we'll instantly have something in common with him. We'll be able to sympathise with his ordeal in the Circle Tower (being that he was one of the only survivors after the tower filled with demons/abominations and blood mages).

From his comments in DA2 it seems like he's probably felt pretty alone in his ordeal and experiences, so to finally find someone who shared a very similar experience (albeit with a couple of slight differences) will be good for him... and hopefully us.

I hadn't thought of that; as fellow survivors (Cullen being the loan survivor of the DA:O tower situation) we'd have a lot in common. It would be interesting if Cullen tried to convince you that magic is the root of all this evil, while you, despite having lost your entire clan and family to magic, still support mage freedom. That could create a really interesting dynamic.

Technically he wasn't the lone survivor... there was a templar hiding in one of the Wardrobes in the dorm rooms, LOL! 

Modifié par LolaLei, 11 août 2013 - 06:49 .

[LolaLei]

Mind you, that templar was a wimp. He hid and that's the only reason he survived, whereas Cullen fought to save his templar brothers and sisters, got captured, tortured for weeks/months, and still didn't succumb to the demons. What a man!

Modifié par LolaLei, 11 août 2013 - 06:52 .

[rapscallioness]

R2s Muse wrote...

It also keeps reminding me of Da Vinci's Last Supper, with all the pointing and reactions around the calm center.

gasp! omg, R2, I thought the exact same thing when I first saw this pic!

Also, I wonder what Inquisitor McStabby is stabbing to elicit such visceral reactions? Perhaps it is a Chantry...stronghold? Or a Warden thing, but I can't imagine Cass being upset abt hitting the Wardens. The chill guy may like the idea for his own reasons...

[Danny Boy 7]

LolaLei wrote...

Something I'm curious about is what sort of backstory our protagonist will have now that the backgrounds have been scrapped. I mean, surely there must be some sort of details or story about our characters life prior to the veil rip, even if it's just shown via codex.

.Yeah this is basically what my thread is about. Will we have a blank slate ala KOTOR/Skyrim where we flesh out our character via dialogue or will we have a description at the start of the game per eace with refrences to it during the game?  I have to admit I prefer the latter.

I'm also excited about being the sole survivor.

[LolaLei]

rapscallioness wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

It also keeps reminding me of Da Vinci's Last Supper, with all the pointing and reactions around the calm center.

*Snip*

gasp! omg, R2, I thought the exact same thing when I first saw this pic!

Also, I wonder what Inquisitor McStabby is stabbing to elicit such visceral reactions? Perhaps it is a Chantry...stronghold? Or a Warden thing, but I can't imagine Cass being upset abt hitting the Wardens. The chill guy may like the idea for his own reasons...

(Cass was outraged because the Inquisitor done a better job of stabbing inanimate objects!) 

[Danny Boy 7]

LolaLei wrote...

rapscallioness wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

It also keeps reminding me of Da Vinci's Last Supper, with all the pointing and reactions around the calm center.

*Snip*

gasp! omg, R2, I thought the exact same thing when I first saw this pic!

Also, I wonder what Inquisitor McStabby is stabbing to elicit such visceral reactions? Perhaps it is a Chantry...stronghold? Or a Warden thing, but I can't imagine Cass being upset abt hitting the Wardens. The chill guy may like the idea for his own reasons...

(Cass was outraged because the Inquisitor done a better job of stabbing inanimate objects!) 

.Bull****  Gary only thinks he's doing a better job.

[meanieweenie]

If the whole veil tear is somehow our fault, I don't want to find out until later after everyone's done convincing us we're the victim.

I agree though... I'd really like more back story to start out with so I can feel attached to other characters before the big bang and they all eat it. In DA2 I could not have cared less that my sibling was just crushed by an ogre. It was more "Ah, well I have another one." lol

[CuriousArtemis]

LolaLei wrote...

Technically he wasn't the lone survivor... there was a templar hiding in one of the Wardrobes in the dorm rooms, LOL! 

WHAT, I thought that guy was a mage! Shows you how rarely I've managed to play through that storyline  Oh, and there's also the poor templar who is being duped by the desire demon, poor guy.

[R2s Muse]

You know, I keep coming back to something MLaw said in the video, how for all you know, you might have had something to do with the Veil Rip. It makes me wonder if that's also a reason to have a common intro for every PC, since whatever your role in the big cross rip, it would have to be the same. That's what makes me think it wouldn't be something as innocuous as traveling with your family in a caravan, but you're wherever this happens, doing... something that you the player don't learn about right away, and the game starts in media res with the "event. " Like, you think you were just a merchant conducting business in town when it went boom, and later found out that in fact you were a spy doing something nefarious.

Of course, that starts to remind me of the start of the first Resident Evil movie.

[LolaLei]

motomotogirl wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Technically he wasn't the lone survivor... there was a templar hiding in one of the Wardrobes in the dorm rooms, LOL! 

WHAT, I thought that guy was a mage! Shows you how rarely I've managed to play through that storyline  Oh, and there's also the poor templar who is being duped by the desire demon, poor guy.

Oh wait... was he a mage? You know what, I've completely forgotten. I think you're right actually. Oh, well there we go then! He really was the sole survivor! 

[CuriousArtemis]

rapscallioness wrote...

Also, I wonder what Inquisitor McStabby is stabbing to elicit such visceral reactions? Perhaps it is a Chantry...stronghold? Or a Warden thing, but I can't imagine Cass being upset abt hitting the Wardens. The chill guy may like the idea for his own reasons...

The way I read that picture was, probably everyone was bickering on what their next move should be ("We should travel here to investigate such-and-such!" "No, the Divine said that we should go here!") and the Inquisitor just gets tired of all that and just stabs his knife into the map to get their attention (not on any particular spot on the map).

Bit of a drama queen, that Gary!