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#57201
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I'm internally LOL'ing about most of the bunch of us present saying that we don't want Cullen having smooshy residual feelings for F!Mage!Warden while the rest of the forums think that's EXACTLY what we want. :D

LOL Underscoring, yet again, that folks who talk about this thread have never actually visited it... :lol:

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I could NEVER romance Thane because that relationship trigger looked so damn awkward to me. My hat goes off to everyone who could click it (says the Garrusmancer, who's relationship trigger was basically 'yo, bro, lets do it'.)

I never had a problem with that part of the romance, but I'm married myself (and probably a lot of you guys are too) and I know that if my husband died I'd never be able to forget him either, and that not talking about him to make the new guy in my life feel more secure would feel dishonest to both of them.

My dad and my stepmom met IRL in grief counseling when both of their spouses died within the same month. In their case, their shared experiences of grief over their loved ones brought them together. Posted Image

Ha, this shows the power of different experiences :happy: For me his reminiscing of his wife so vividly was so beautiful and sad that I could never choose the I want you option (I know it actually sounds good in the context:).


Same reason why I wouldn't be able to romance Varric if he's an LI, because of Bianca.

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neonmoth wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

Dirgegun wrote...
I could NEVER romance Thane because that relationship trigger looked so damn awkward to me. My hat goes off to everyone who could click it (says the Garrusmancer, who's relationship trigger was basically 'yo, bro, lets do it'.)

I never had a problem with that part of the romance, but I'm married myself (and probably a lot of you guys are too) and I know that if my husband died I'd never be able to forget him either, and that not talking about him to make the new guy in my life feel more secure would feel dishonest to both of them.

My dad and my stepmom met IRL in grief counseling when both of their spouses died within the same month. In their case, their shared experiences of grief over their loved ones brought them together. Posted Image

Ha, this shows the power of different experiences :happy: For me his reminiscing of his wife so vividly was so beautiful and sad that I could never choose the I want you option (I know it actually sounds good in the context:).


Yeah, c'est la vie! I really enjoyed his romance and felt awful when he was dying in ME3 and I got back together with Kaidan...

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You don't realize exactly how miserable Thane is until you romance him. Being able to heal some of those wounds was really rewarding. You know, until I cheated on him Posted Image and he died. Posted Image

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I sort of liked Sebastian's routes a bit more than the others though. It wouldn*t be realistic if they all did this, but I liked that he was either this revenge driven prince or repentant priest.

I'd hope for all of them to be that way, but I know it's unlikely.

I'm hoping they show the protagonist in their default gear today.



Yeah, I have to wonder how they're going to do that. Since your interaction with Seb's character dramatically changed his outlook and his set course in life, and then imports are going to be different... hmm. I'm just curious how they're going to pull that one off in DA:I (if he's even in the game.)

And then some people *cough*meanieweenie*cough* haven't even played Sebastian's content. So maybe he'll end up coming to the same conclusion about princehood/priesthood no matter what. Do you have any theories, Danny?

I honestly believe they were going to conclude his story in the expansion, possibly set in Starkhaven or some other Free Marches city. He would potentially hate Hawke,  but since his city is in peril hr accepts help anyway.

You would have then either rebuilt your friendship/rivalry or continued what you were doing if you killed Anders. Possibly with the chance to betray him again.

I don't think he will show up in Inquisition unless they some how include the cut content.  If he is he might die in the opening or maybe he meets us as the Prince. If he is a brother he may just show up in a random Chantry somewhere lol.

I've always been hopeful that the cut Starkhaven content will carry over. His DLC content was such a great set up for another game... It's funny how no one ever really talks about him as a companion option. :(

As JediBeagle said, it is plausible that they sent him back to Starkhaven regardless. I suppose you don't really need the DLC content to begin with him as a newly installed Prince. I keep hoping that's why I didn't get my rivalmance content in Legacy or MotA, is because all my Princess Hawke content is lying in wait in DA:I... :? It could happen! :crying:

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What I find is that hearing them talk about their dead (or potentially dead) spouses makes me kinda grow attached to the dead character, and then I feel bad romancing them because I feel like I'm betraying the dead ones memory, LOL!

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Is it bad that I kinda was Lambert to still be alive? He sounded like the kind of antagonist worthy of really hating, but also being very human in his beliefs... kinda like the illusive man from Mass Effect.


I do to, though I'd like a whole slew of major enemies

Fiona, Lambert, Celene, the Grand Duke, Super Pride demon idk. I really liked Meredith and Loghain I'm looking forward to these Agents of Chaos

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Danny Boy 7 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Is it bad that I kinda was Lambert to still be alive? He sounded like the kind of antagonist worthy of really hating, but also being very human in his beliefs... kinda like the illusive man from Mass Effect.


I do to, though I'd like a whole slew of major enemies

Fiona, Lambert, Celene, the Grand Duke, Super Pride demon idk. I really liked Meredith and Loghain I'm looking forward to these Agents of Chaos


Well, yeah, you'd get the option to either go against them or side with them. Like you could with Petrice in DA2.

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As JediBeagle said, it is plausible that they sent him back to Starkhaven regardless. I suppose you don't really need the DLC content to begin with him as a newly installed Prince. I keep hoping that's why I didn't get my rivalmance content in Legacy or MotA, is because all my Princess Hawke content is lying in wait in DA:I... :? It could happen! :crying:


You know, something that could be fun is if the current Vael usurper's puppeteers orchestrated an assassination attempt against Sebastian and he came back all "Oh no you didn't!!"

Especially if there were blood in the Chantry. Seb would freeeaaaakkk.

*goes off to write first DA fanfic, The Vael Chronicles, Part One: Blood in the Chantry*

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brushyourteeth wrote...

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I dunno if it will be more than what it was in DA2,  a fond memory if you imported a mage origin. Best case imho for those who want it mentioned (I don't mind either way, but I don't want him to always talk about her if he's romanceable. It'd be like the man/woman your dating talking about their ex all the time) is a story about the Circle and how there was one unblemished light that has got him through that time as you do now or something lol.


He better not bloody say that! :lol:


Lol well I mean in a non-romantic way. Like, an ex or friend you've fallen out of touch with who helped you deal with a traumatic experience so you remember them fondly.

Sort of like how Anders talks about Karl.

Edit: Well brush put it in his "voice" better lol


Bad example: Anders and Karl were toats together.  Posted Image

*edit* and thanks!!! Posted Image


Lol np, but that's what I mean, like Lola said he handled it rather well, maybe a bit to well. Since he gets over him rather soon, but that's another discussion. 

He mentions Karl as his lover, but by the second or third convo he never mentions him again. 

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Danny Boy 7 wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

I dunno if it will be more than what it was in DA2,  a fond memory if you imported a mage origin. Best case imho for those who want it mentioned (I don't mind either way, but I don't want him to always talk about her if he's romanceable. It'd be like the man/woman your dating talking about their ex all the time) is a story about the Circle and how there was one unblemished light that has got him through that time as you do now or something lol.


He better not bloody say that! :lol:


Lol well I mean in a non-romantic way. Like, an ex or friend you've fallen out of touch with who helped you deal with a traumatic experience so you remember them fondly.

Sort of like how Anders talks about Karl.

Edit: Well brush put it in his "voice" better lol


Bad example: Anders and Karl were toats together.  Posted Image

*edit* and thanks!!! Posted Image


Lol np, but that's what I mean, like Lola said he handled it rather well, maybe a bit to well. Since he gets over him rather soon, but that's another discussion. 

He mentions Karl as his lover, but by the second or third convo he never mentions him again. 


He did say that they had been lovers years ago, though. They were just friends by the time Hawke meets Anders. 

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Jeeze people. I go away for half an hour to have lunch, and you guys fill up a two whole pages! XD

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LolaLei wrote...

Is it bad that I kinda want Lambert to still be alive? He sounded like the kind of antagonist worthy of really hating, but also being very human in his beliefs... kinda like the illusive man from Mass Effect.

I don't know much about the Illusive Man in ME because I'm still in the prologue in ME (the controls are totally kicking my butt to the point where I can't really play it), but I do want Lambert to still be alive. I don't want his death (preferably slow and excruciating) to occur in a novel. I'd like to be the cause of it. He was an awesome villain.

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LolaLei wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

I dunno if it will be more than what it was in DA2,  a fond memory if you imported a mage origin. Best case imho for those who want it mentioned (I don't mind either way, but I don't want him to always talk about her if he's romanceable. It'd be like the man/woman your dating talking about their ex all the time) is a story about the Circle and how there was one unblemished light that has got him through that time as you do now or something lol.


He better not bloody say that! :lol:


Lol well I mean in a non-romantic way. Like, an ex or friend you've fallen out of touch with who helped you deal with a traumatic experience so you remember them fondly.

Sort of like how Anders talks about Karl.

Edit: Well brush put it in his "voice" better lol


Bad example: Anders and Karl were toats together.  Posted Image

*edit* and thanks!!! Posted Image


Lol np, but that's what I mean, like Lola said he handled it rather well, maybe a bit to well. Since he gets over him rather soon, but that's another discussion. 

He mentions Karl as his lover, but by the second or third convo he never mentions him again. 


He did say that they had beem lovers years ago, though. They were just friends by the time Hawke meets Anders. 


True I guess what I'm trying to say is that it shouldn't warrant more than a passing, "She was a good gal" comment and not be central to his character arc. Than again when are the past games? Anders is more focused on the now, Isabela's past was laid out more in her romance I think and Merrill was focused on a singular major facet of that origin.

I'm just convinced that he'll have bigger fish to fry than a crush he had years ago.

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True I guess what I'm trying to say is that it shouldn't warrant more than a passing, "She was a good gal" comment and not be central to his character arc. Than again when are the past games? Anders is more focused on the now, Isabela's past was laid out more in her romance I think and Merrill was focused on a singular major facet of that origin.

I'm just convinced that he'll have bigger fish to fry than a crush he had years ago.



I agree. My husband and I don't talk about my ex-boyfriends and crushes now except to laugh at them (or at me for having them).  Posted ImagePosted Image

Most people, even if they wouldn't rather forget, would rather not talk about it too much.
Granted, Cullen isn't most people and that's why we like him, so no judgment to anyone who thinks F!Mage!Warden should still be a big deal in his life.

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I'm just convinced that he'll have bigger fish to fry than a crush he had years ago.

Word. I just think there's a lot more to him than just Amell... despite what a lot of the fandom likes to think, fans and haters, so I just hope he's not boiled down to that. Of course... I'd rather that than him suddenly being a one-note "mages aren't people like you and me"-type bigot without all those other layers and doubts he developed over the course of DA2.

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berelinde wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Is it bad that I kinda want Lambert to still be alive? He sounded like the kind of antagonist worthy of really hating, but also being very human in his beliefs... kinda like the illusive man from Mass Effect.

I don't know much about the Illusive Man in ME because I'm still in the prologue in ME (the controls are totally kicking my butt to the point where I can't really play it), but I do want Lambert to still be alive. I don't want his death (preferably slow and excruciating) to occur in a novel. I'd like to be the cause of it. He was an awesome villain.


Same! While I was cheering Cole on, I was kinda hoping that he was interupted so that my Inquisitor could land the killing blow in-game after Lambert had done plenty more terrible stuff... like torturing Cullen, slaughtering mages, feeding red lyrium to the rebelled templars etc. :lol:

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Danny Boy 7 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Is it bad that I kinda was Lambert to still be alive? He sounded like the kind of antagonist worthy of really hating, but also being very human in his beliefs... kinda like the illusive man from Mass Effect.


I do to, though I'd like a whole slew of major enemies

Fiona, Lambert, Celene, the Grand Duke, Super Pride demon idk. I really liked Meredith and Loghain I'm looking forward to these Agents of Chaos

Hmm, it is telling, isn't it, that they said, plural "Agents." Of course, is that some big evil conglomerate? An evil committee? An evil brother sister duo? 

#impatient

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LolaLei wrote...

berelinde wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Is it bad that I kinda want Lambert to still be alive? He sounded like the kind of antagonist worthy of really hating, but also being very human in his beliefs... kinda like the illusive man from Mass Effect.

I don't know much about the Illusive Man in ME because I'm still in the prologue in ME (the controls are totally kicking my butt to the point where I can't really play it), but I do want Lambert to still be alive. I don't want his death (preferably slow and excruciating) to occur in a novel. I'd like to be the cause of it. He was an awesome villain.


Same! While I was cheering Cole on, I was kinda hoping that he was interupted so that my Inquisitor could land the killing blow in-game after Lambert had done plenty more terrible stuff... like torturing Cullen, slaughtering mages, feeding red lyrium to the rebelled templars etc. :lol:

I feel a fanfic coming on. A one-shot written from a Lambert PoV where he tries to justify his zeal.

As an aside, is red lyrium common enough to feed to templars? I'm sure it would mess them up, but i get the feeling that it's pretty rare.

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berelinde wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

berelinde wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Is it bad that I kinda want Lambert to still be alive? He sounded like the kind of antagonist worthy of really hating, but also being very human in his beliefs... kinda like the illusive man from Mass Effect.

I don't know much about the Illusive Man in ME because I'm still in the prologue in ME (the controls are totally kicking my butt to the point where I can't really play it), but I do want Lambert to still be alive. I don't want his death (preferably slow and excruciating) to occur in a novel. I'd like to be the cause of it. He was an awesome villain.


Same! While I was cheering Cole on, I was kinda hoping that he was interupted so that my Inquisitor could land the killing blow in-game after Lambert had done plenty more terrible stuff... like torturing Cullen, slaughtering mages, feeding red lyrium to the rebelled templars etc. :lol:

I feel a fanfic coming on. A one-shot written from a Lambert PoV where he tries to justify his zeal.

As an aside, is red lyrium common enough to feed to templars? I'm sure it would mess them up, but i get the feeling that it's pretty rare.

I would have thought it was rare until I saw this pic in WoT.

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berelinde wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

berelinde wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Is it bad that I kinda want Lambert to still be alive? He sounded like the kind of antagonist worthy of really hating, but also being very human in his beliefs... kinda like the illusive man from Mass Effect.

I don't know much about the Illusive Man in ME because I'm still in the prologue in ME (the controls are totally kicking my butt to the point where I can't really play it), but I do want Lambert to still be alive. I don't want his death (preferably slow and excruciating) to occur in a novel. I'd like to be the cause of it. He was an awesome villain.


Same! While I was cheering Cole on, I was kinda hoping that he was interupted so that my Inquisitor could land the killing blow in-game after Lambert had done plenty more terrible stuff... like torturing Cullen, slaughtering mages, feeding red lyrium to the rebelled templars etc. :lol:

I feel a fanfic coming on. A one-shot written from a Lambert PoV where he tries to justify his zeal.

As an aside, is red lyrium common enough to feed to templars? I'm sure it would mess them up, but i get the feeling that it's pretty rare.


No idea, I just figured that since they're cut off from the chantry lyrium supply they'll need to get it elsewhere. All it would take is for a dodgy lyrium dealer to stumble upon the red stuff and then market it as "extra strength" and BOOM! Crazy lyrium addled super-templars everywhere! :wizard:

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LolaLei wrote...

berelinde wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

berelinde wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Is it bad that I kinda want Lambert to still be alive? He sounded like the kind of antagonist worthy of really hating, but also being very human in his beliefs... kinda like the illusive man from Mass Effect.

I don't know much about the Illusive Man in ME because I'm still in the prologue in ME (the controls are totally kicking my butt to the point where I can't really play it), but I do want Lambert to still be alive. I don't want his death (preferably slow and excruciating) to occur in a novel. I'd like to be the cause of it. He was an awesome villain.


Same! While I was cheering Cole on, I was kinda hoping that he was interupted so that my Inquisitor could land the killing blow in-game after Lambert had done plenty more terrible stuff... like torturing Cullen, slaughtering mages, feeding red lyrium to the rebelled templars etc. :lol:

I feel a fanfic coming on. A one-shot written from a Lambert PoV where he tries to justify his zeal.

As an aside, is red lyrium common enough to feed to templars? I'm sure it would mess them up, but i get the feeling that it's pretty rare.


No idea, I just figured that since they're cut off from the chantry lyrium supply they'll need to get it elsewhere. All it would take is for a dodgy lyrium dealer to stumble upon the red stuff and then market it as "extra strength" and BOOM! Crazy lyrium addled super-templars everywhere! :wizard:

Hmmmm what does it say about me that I hear "super templars" and my first thought is, "I want one." :blink:

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WHOOOOOOOOOO

As of about an hour ago,DG-given proof that Vivienne and Scribe Girl are NOT the same person.


Vivienne. Scribe Girl. DEFINITIVELY. NOT. THE. SAME.

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WHOOOOOOOOOO

As of about an hour ago,DG-given proof that Vivienne and Scribe Girl are NOT the same person.


Vivienne. Scribe Girl. DEFINITIVELY. NOT. THE. SAME.


LOL, that seemed obvious to me. They don't even look alike.

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WHOOOOOOOOOO

As of about an hour ago,DG-given proof that Vivienne and Scribe Girl are NOT the same person.


Vivienne. Scribe Girl. DEFINITIVELY. NOT. THE. SAME.

Finally!  Heh, he also makes another very special point of warning against taking those leaked characters as gospel. Hmm... wish they'd stop including scribe girl everywhere then...

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LolaLei wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

WHOOOOOOOOOO

As of about an hour ago,DG-given proof that Vivienne and Scribe Girl are NOT the same person.


Vivienne. Scribe Girl. DEFINITIVELY. NOT. THE. SAME.


LOL, that seemed obvious to me. They don't even look alike.


I agree, but this saves me the trouble of being 100% sure that everyone else is crazy while simultaneously being 100% sure that I'll also be a big ol' jerk if I keep harping on about it, right or wrong. Posted Image

<--- control freak. Working on it.

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