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#57851
littlenikki

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I had another Dragon Age dream. I swear, they are going to kill me one day.

The game came out and I had yet to play it because for some reason I was just too busy. So I'm trying to get on here to find out information about it, and trying to catch up w/ this thread because there was just so many conversations going on. The end result was that Cullen was in the game as a companion, but Cullen turned out to be a fake name he used for this fake persona of his, and he actually was this really crude, totally wild man that jumps into a relationship w/ your character very early on.

....I gotta stop snacking before bed.

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Jennifer Helper quits because of threats

http://metro.co.uk/2...family-3925970/

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ag99 wrote...

Jennifer Helper quits because of threats

http://metro.co.uk/2...family-3925970/


Oh my god! That is absolutely frightening and terrible! That anybody reacts that way to something even as simple as changes in a f*cking video game makes me completely nauseous. This is such sad news, though I can understand her decision to leave.

Modifié par littlenikki, 16 août 2013 - 01:42 .


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littlenikki wrote...

I had another Dragon Age dream. I swear, they are going to kill me one day.

The game came out and I had yet to play it because for some reason I was just too busy. So I'm trying to get on here to find out information about it, and trying to catch up w/ this thread because there was just so many conversations going on. The end result was that Cullen was in the game as a companion, but Cullen turned out to be a fake name he used for this fake persona of his, and he actually was this really crude, totally wild man that jumps into a relationship w/ your character very early on.

....I gotta stop snacking before bed.


I had a DA dream last night too, but I can't remember what happened during it though.

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ag99 wrote...

Jennifer Helper quits because of threats

http://metro.co.uk/2...family-3925970/

This makes me sad. Sad and angry. BioWare is losing a talented writer because some players have an enormous sense of entitlement and no sense of decency whatsoever. These aren't fans making these threats. Fans are supportive, not hostile. And if something goes in a direction they don't like, they leave without a fuss. They don't do this.

I wish there was some way I could tell Ms. Hepler how sorry I am that she was driven to this.

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what did she do that was so horrible that ppl were making threats? Perosnally i like da2 it wast great but it was still fun

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ag99 wrote...

Jennifer Helper quits because of threats

http://metro.co.uk/2...family-3925970/


**** sake. I swear gamers can be some of the most vile, self entitled, disgusting creatures ever to walk this earth. It's no wonder people like DG can barely bring themselves to be polite to us.

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ag99 wrote...

what did she do that was so horrible that ppl were making threats? Perosnally i like da2 it wast great but it was still fun


She didn't do anything, people are just dicks.

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lol i think they made a bad decisions when they made the forums, forums are suppose to be on how to make the game better or give some input or whatever but all you see on the forums is ppl b!tching 24/7, I think if most ppl were like the ppl here in the cullen thread the forums would be a better place

Modifié par ag99, 16 août 2013 - 01:52 .


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I always try to convince people that the gaming community and gamers are rather laid back and carefree.

It'll be nice when I can actually say that and mean it.

This makes me feel nothing but shame and disgust.

I was also just looking around and found this as well. What is making all these people act so vile and disgusting?

Modifié par Batteries, 16 août 2013 - 01:56 .


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littlenikki wrote...

ag99 wrote...

Jennifer Helper quits because of threats

http://metro.co.uk/2...family-3925970/


Oh my god! That is absolutely frightening and terrible! That anybody reacts that way to something even as simple as changes in a f*cking video game makes me completely nauseous. This is such sad news, though I can understand her decision to leave.


It's f*cking disgusting! I'm sorry but if you are making death threats to a developer of a video game because you didn't like it, you're a sick, disturbing individual. It's a video game, get the f*ck over it!

I've played enough video games that disapointed me, but I don't go on a forum or twitter to make threats and insult people. I don't care if this is the sole reason why she left, just the fact that it might have played a role in her decision is infuriating enough.

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ag99 wrote...

lol i think they made a bad decisions when they made the forums, forums are suppose to be on how to make the game better or give some input or whatever but all you see on the forums is ppl b!tching 24/7, I think if most ppl were like the ppl here in the cullen thread the forums would be a better place


It was not just forums, they followed her on twitter and insulted her!

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Chiantirose1982 wrote...

ag99 wrote...

lol i think they made a bad decisions when they made the forums, forums are suppose to be on how to make the game better or give some input or whatever but all you see on the forums is ppl b!tching 24/7, I think if most ppl were like the ppl here in the cullen thread the forums would be a better place


It was not just forums, they followed her on twitter and insulted her!


pff the fact that they would go that far its just freaking rediculous

I hope she will find a better job and not worry about idiots who have no freaking clue of what it takes to develop a game and they think  its done by a snap of the fingers

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here is another article


"Jennifer Hepler left BioWare this week to begin work on a book
about narrative design and do some freelance work. Her most recent job
title was senior writer onDragon Age: Inquisition[/i]. But it was Dragon
Age 2[/i] that led to the death threats, the threats against her family
and children and the harassment."

http://www.polygon.c...-support-groups

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Batteries wrote...

I always try to convince people that the gaming community and gamers are rather laid back and carefree.

It'll be nice when I can actually say that and mean it.

This makes me feel nothing but shame and disgust.

I was also just looking around and found this as well. What is making all these people act so vile and disgusting?


pff I just read some of the comments... JEEZ he wasnt even a developer he was the guy who planned the events WTF
 also DA2 WASNT THAT BAD idk why these ppl are taking it so freaking serious . is their life depending on it or something to get this upset over a game?

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ag99 wrote...

here is another article


"Jennifer Hepler left BioWare this week to begin work on a book
about narrative design and do some freelance work. Her most recent job
title was senior writer onDragon Age: Inquisition[/i]. But it was Dragon
Age 2[/i] that led to the death threats, the threats against her family
and children and the harassment."

http://www.polygon.c...-support-groups


The fact she was being threatened at all is disgusting, but...

"...threats against her family and children"

What. The. Fuuu--

This is why law enforcement needs to take crap like this more seriously, if it's over the ~internet~ or not. 

I just. 

I give up. The Bioware fandom is full of complete and utter trash

Modifié par Dirgegun, 16 août 2013 - 02:13 .


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ag99 wrote...

I hope she will find a better job and not worry about idiots who have no freaking clue of what it takes to develop a game and they think  its done by a snap of the fingers

She'll succeed, I have no doubts about that. She is exceptionally talented, with a gift for showing humanity and difficult choices, and I'm sure she'll have publishers lining up to sign her on. Or that's what they'll be doing if they have sense.

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Do you suppose they've been attacking her all this time? Or just that something happened recently with a troll or something that became the final nail in the coffin?

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Yeah Batteries those comments are one of the reasons I don't go to the DA wiki comments section anymore. There are nice people like R2 and Wiedzmin, but like three or four posters just **** incessantly about every piece of news and beat you down if you don't agree with them.

I think my biggest complaint is that people are acting like it's either 1. Her fault 2. The hazards of the job 3. A victory in the crusade against people who "ruined" Dragon Age.

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Interesting that the first article spins it that she left because of the harassment, when in the Polygon article she says that's not so.

When asked if the harassment led to her depature, Hepler told Polygon "No,
leaving Bioware was for family reasons. I am going to be working on a
text book on narrative design among other game-related freelance
projects."


Regardless of her reasons, I think that's a huge loss to Bioware. She was the writer for DA2!Cullen after all. And Anders. And Sebastian. :(

On the harassment, I don't want to dive back into the blood pressure raising incident. What happened to her was inexcusable by any standard and hearing the details of the threats against her family is really upsetting. I made a point of sending her a note of support when that all went down. I wish her the best in the future.

Modifié par R2s Muse, 16 août 2013 - 02:50 .


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LolaLei wrote...

Do you suppose they've been attacking her all this time? Or just that something happened recently with a troll or something that became the final nail in the coffin?


Some are saying that it might be because her husband was let go. I would imagine regardless of the perks/love of the job it's a sour gig and she wants a new start.

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I don't understand why the same people who praise the writing and story in DAO are calling for the lynching of the writers of DA2 for ruining Dragon Age

i seriously i can't even

The off-topic thread on the same subject is also awful.

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Chiantirose1982 wrote...

ag99 wrote...

lol i think they made a bad decisions when they made the forums, forums are suppose to be on how to make the game better or give some input or whatever but all you see on the forums is ppl b!tching 24/7, I think if most ppl were like the ppl here in the cullen thread the forums would be a better place


It was not just forums, they followed her on twitter and insulted her!

It was worse than that. She received personal threats at her home as well.

Modifié par R2s Muse, 16 août 2013 - 02:52 .


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Wow... I remember there being a big brew ha ha a while back but I no idea it was that horrendous! There is no excuse for those comments, threats or behavior. These people are writers/artists. Art is subjective. If you don't like a piece or disagree in some way, move on and find something that better suits your tastes. Outrageous.

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I'm pretty sure she was the writer for Anders, and because of his changes in DA2 and what he did at the end that people were attacking her, and blaming her for the plot that they didn't like. Whatever the reason, it's completely inexcusable for fans (or anyone) to behave like that.