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[dorianpervus]

Or maybe "pursue" as in he fled because he thought you were bad and your running after him to prove him wrong. Or maybe he's possessed or something and you have to pursue him and cure him? (like the Templars in DA2 were?) 
Maybe then he's stripped of his rank and that would explain his non-templar armor in the concept art? 
So many possibilities 

[Chanda]

Wasn't it Ser Arnaud that Evangeline didn't like in Asunder? He's the one that took her position after she got back from Adamant.

[brushyourteeth]

berelinde wrote...

G'night! But please allow me to respectfully disagree. I'm a calligrapher. I know about white space and letter density, even if the text is illegible. That's -----N, not -----T. The density through the middle of the minim is different. And I'm betting that brush is right about Clavel. There's definitely a C, followed by a left-centered ascender and a visually dense letter like a lowercase "a" and toward the end, another visually dense letter like "e" and another lef-centered ascender. One of those ascenders could be something else like a lower-case H or a B, but they don't really roll off the tongue.

Thanks for giving me the benefit of the doubt, berelinde! Those letters all appear to be in capitals -- do those rules still mostly apply, then? A's are still dense and so are E's?

For the record, it won't matter to me much if "CLAVEL" ends up way off or someone else has a better guess since we're all just taking our best guesses and we'll all find out in the end. But if it ends up right (or close), then booyah! LOL!! 

Modifié par brushyourteeth, 17 août 2013 - 04:08 .

[Danny Boy 7]

Just wanted to mention brush that I owe you an apology since it seems Tevinter is going to be a part of the game. I didn't say anything mean, but still you were right and I was wrong, so good call

[brushyourteeth]

So anyway, awesome speculations everyone! The Tevinter dudes are freaky.

Adamant really might have just gotten a DA:I facelift from the books. It would explain the GW fortress-ness of it, the Orlesian Lion-ness of it, and the "weird things happen in this place"ness of it.

I don't really want to call Adamant home, though. It seems awful and not at all cozy. :/

It's also situated in a pretty non-traditional desert. This is from "Asunder". In my copy it's on page 157, in Chapter 8.

"The land slowly grew drier as they moved into the Western Approach. How the area got its name, Rhys really couldn't imagine. There wasn't anything farther west to approach other than steppes crawling with monsters and forests so deep and dark that explorers never returned from them. The badlands wasn't a place that someone went to. At best, it was someplace you came from. Fled, more likely.
According to the texts Rhys had read, this area was the site of one of the great battles of the Second Blight. Hundreds and hundreds of years ago, the darkspawn had swarmed out of a great chasm and corrupted the land so severely it never quite recovered. The blood of too many men fell upon the sands here, trying to force those creatures back before they spilled across the entire world. For those men and women it must have felt like the skies had opened up and rained black death down upon them all.
The Approach had a strange sort of beauty to it even so. It was a desert, but not a warm desert with glowing yellow sand. It was a cold desert, mottled purple like an unhealed bruise. Rocky pillars jutted out of the sand like brittle, twisted bones; there was a sense that the howling winds had long covered everything else. Even so, it didn't seem forbidding and horrible... just stark, and perhaps even a little sad. It was as if the world mourned a mortal injury inflicted long ago."

So... not a warm, yellow, traditional desert. A blighted, cold scar where nothing grows. Plenty of hundreds of years old Warden corpses to fight, though. And a thin Veil to even make it likely.

Of course, the Western Approach could have gotten a DA:I makeover just like Adamant  may have too. Who knows?

I don't know about many other deserts farther north where it's warmer and yellow-er, but the fact that there's a great big lion stuck on the side makes me inclined to believe it's in Orlesian land, or contested territory.

Modifié par brushyourteeth, 17 août 2013 - 04:47 .

[brushyourteeth]

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

Just wanted to mention brush that I owe you an apology since it seems Tevinter is going to be a part of the game. I didn't say anything mean, but still you were right and I was wrong, so good call

You take me far too seriously, Danny! I don't mind being wrong, so long as I'm allowed to happily speculate out loud for fun. I was just trying to get you to think, boy, think!

[Chanda]

I wonder if we'll actually get to go to Tevinter. That would be really interesting. Considering they released Tevinter clothing concept art along with Orlesian and Fereldan clothing concept art, and it seems like we're definitely going to Orlais and back to Fereldan, I'm guessing the chances are good.

[berelinde]

brushyourteeth wrote...

berelinde wrote...

G'night! But please allow me to respectfully disagree. I'm a calligrapher. I know about white space and letter density, even if the text is illegible. That's -----N, not -----T. The density through the middle of the minim is different. And I'm betting that brush is right about Clavel. There's definitely a C, followed by a left-centered ascender and a visually dense letter like a lowercase "a" and toward the end, another visually dense letter like "e" and another lef-centered ascender. One of those ascenders could be something else like a lower-case H or a B, but they don't really roll off the tongue.

Thanks for giving me the benefit of the doubt, berelinde! Those letters all appear to be in capitals -- do those rules still mostly apply, then? A's are still dense and so are E's?

For the record, it won't matter to me much if "CLAVEL" ends up way off or someone else has a better guess since we're all just taking our best guesses and we'll all find out in the end. But if it ends up right (or close), then booyah! LOL!! 

In perfect honesty, I'm not convinced it is "Clavel". It could be "Charel" or "Cherel" or "Chenel" or "Chanel" or any number of variants. Were it not for the ascender after the C, it could even be "Carver". But given the font - ALL CAPS with mixed minims, the visual density of a few letters were wrong for the U of "Cullen," and the K and T of "Knight." I suck at guessing games. I can't tell you what it realy says. But I can tell you what it doesn't say, and that's "Knight-Commander Cullen". If I get a chance later, I'll post screenies of Copperplate font (another ALL CAPS mixed minim font) with the two words side by side and you'll see what I mean.

[Chanda]

brushyourteeth wrote...

So anyway, awesome speculations everyone! The Tevinter dudes are freaky.

Adamant really might have just gotten a DA:I facelift from the books. It would explain the GW fortress-ness of it, the Orlesian Lion-ness of it, and the "weird things happen in this place"ness of it.

I don't really want to call Adamant home, though. It seems awful and not at all cozy. :/

It's also situated in a pretty non-traditional desert. This is from the book. In my copy it's on page 157, in Chapter 8.

"The land slowly grew drier as they moved into the Western Approach. How the area got its name, Rhys really couldn't imagine. There wasn't anything farther west to approach other than steppes crawling with monsters and forests so deep and dark that explorers never returned from them. The badlands wasn't a place that someone went to. At best, it was someplace you came from. Fled, more likely.
According to the texts Rhys had read, this area was the site of one of the great battles of the Second Blight. Hundreds and hundreds of years ago, the darkspawn had swarmed out of a great chasm and corrupted the land so severely it never quite recovered. The blood of too many men fell upon the sands here, trying to force those creatures back before they spilled across the entire world. For those men and women it must have felt like the skies had opened up and rained black death down upon them all.
The Approach had a strange sort of beauty to it even so. It was a desert, but not a warm desert with glowing yellow sand. It was a cold desert, mottled purple like an unhealed bruise. Rocky pillars jutted out of the sand like brittle, twisted bones; there was a sense that the howling winds had long covered everything else. Even so, it didn't seem forbidding and horrible... just stark, and perhaps even a little sad. It was as if the world mourned a mortal injury inflicted long ago."

So... not a warm, yellow, traditional desert. A blighted, cold scar where nothing grows. Plenty of hundreds of years old Warden corpses to fight, though. And a thin Veil to even make it likely.

Of course, the Western Approach could have gotten a DA:I makeover just like Adamant  may have too. Who knows?

I don't know about many other deserts farther north where it's warmer and yellow-er, but the fact that there's a great big lion stuck on the side makes me inclined to believe it's in Orlesian land, or contested territory.

I ddon't like it, either. I'd much rather have the castle with the waterfall in the snowy mountains. It might not be as warm as a desert fortress, but I think it's better than living in scarred, blighted lands near darkspawn and demons.

[brushyourteeth]

berelinde wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

berelinde wrote...

G'night! But please allow me to respectfully disagree. I'm a calligrapher. I know about white space and letter density, even if the text is illegible. That's -----N, not -----T. The density through the middle of the minim is different. And I'm betting that brush is right about Clavel. There's definitely a C, followed by a left-centered ascender and a visually dense letter like a lowercase "a" and toward the end, another visually dense letter like "e" and another lef-centered ascender. One of those ascenders could be something else like a lower-case H or a B, but they don't really roll off the tongue.

Thanks for giving me the benefit of the doubt, berelinde! Those letters all appear to be in capitals -- do those rules still mostly apply, then? A's are still dense and so are E's?

For the record, it won't matter to me much if "CLAVEL" ends up way off or someone else has a better guess since we're all just taking our best guesses and we'll all find out in the end. But if it ends up right (or close), then booyah! LOL!! 

In perfect honesty, I'm not convinced it is "Clavel". It could be "Charel" or "Cherel" or "Chenel" or "Chanel" or any number of variants. Were it not for the ascender after the C, it could even be "Carver". But given the font - ALL CAPS with mixed minims, the visual density of a few letters were wrong for the U of "Cullen," and the K and T of "Knight." I suck at guessing games. I can't tell you what it realy says. But I can tell you what it doesn't say, and that's "Knight-Commander Cullen". If I get a chance later, I'll post screenies of Copperplate font (another ALL CAPS mixed minim font) with the two words side by side and you'll see what I mean.

I trust you completely. I was just interested in your expert opinion since I'm just shooting in the dark for fun. Being right on a guess would be neat, though!
 
Carver would be so much fun. Would that it were true!

For all we know, the name after Warden Commander is just an *insert your DA:O or DA:A Warden import name here* and we infiltrate the fortress just in time to find our old Warden's corpse bleeding out on the pavement.

Bioware can be pretty evil, but they wouldn't be that evil, right? Right?

Modifié par brushyourteeth, 17 août 2013 - 04:36 .

[CuriousArtemis]

Tevinter is a terrifying place :-o Makes me want to fire up one of my games and hug Fenris lol

[Aoba]

Delurking just to give a smidgeon of hope to those who find themselves believing Cullen's chances as a companion/LI aren't as good as they may have been way back when. May I direct your attention to this little
nugget of info found within Ms. Hepler's LinkedIn profile:

"Senior Writer, "Dragon Age III"
Wrote 3 large (15,000-word +) critical path plots and one major follower and romance character.

We all know she wrote Cullen in DA2, so could she also have written him in DAI? Could HE be the major follower/romance character this is referring to?

THE PLOT THICKENS.

Now, if this info has already been brought up and discussed to death, feel free to point and laugh at me.
Maker knows I'd deserve it.

So, yeah, still keeping my fingers crossed on my side of the pond. Back to lurking.

Modifié par ACWolfe, 17 août 2013 - 04:55 .

[berelinde]

Hey, ACWolfe! Thanks for delurking! Or stopping by, or visiting. Whatever, you're welcome here! Your info is encouraging to me, if only for the fact that Ms. Hepler's content is so prevalent in DAI. She did a lot of good, powerful work, and I'm pleased to see that she's owning huge chunks of plot. I like her writing. She does good story, and I'm pleased to see that her stuff is in there.

No one points and laughs. Believe me. I would know.

And brush, I just did a quick 5-sec graphic about various word densities. The stuff in the video isn't legible, but maybe you can compare them to known quantities and draw your own conclusions.

[Chanda]

ACWolfe wrote...

Delurking just to give a smidgeon of hope to those who find themselves believing Cullen's chances as a companion/LI aren't as good as they may have been way back when. May I direct your attention to this little
nugget of info found within Ms. Hepler's LinkedIn profile:

"Senior Writer, "Dragon Age III"
Wrote 3 large (15,000-word +) critical path plots and one major follower and romance character.

We all know she wrote Cullen in DA2, so could she also have written him in DAI? Could HE be the major follower/romance character this is referring to?

THE PLOT THICKENS.

Now, if this info has already been brought up and discussed to death, feel free to point and laugh at me.
Maker knows I'd deserve it.

So, yeah, still keeping my fingers crossed on my side of the pond. Back to lurking.

Now that is interesting. 

[Chanda]

If Jennifer Hepler is leaving Bioware, though... Who will take over her writing? If the game isn't out until next year, all the writing isn't finished yet, is it?

[Xeyska]

Chanda wrote...

If Jennifer Hepler is leaving Bioware, though... Who will take over her writing? If the game isn't out until next year, all the writing isn't finished yet, is it?

*pops out of lurking*

Most, if not all of the writing (except for future DLC) is probably done already. Writing is one of the first things done before the development phase starts.

Modifié par Xeyska, 17 août 2013 - 05:38 .

[Jean]

I was so hoping that we'd get sneak peeks of other characters in future videos. I am not disappoint.

Could it be possible that we can spec our companions however we like, like in DAO? (dual weilding Alistair? yeees) I'm not sure how much detail has really been released about combat besides this update.
I thought it's also been said that we'd capture a base/outpost in a desert in the past?

But now I'm curious who wrote Cullen for DAI. Jennifer Hepler or Tonia Laird? Someone else?

[Chanda]

Xeyska wrote...

Chanda wrote...

If Jennifer Hepler is leaving Bioware, though... Who will take over her writing? If the game isn't out until next year, all the writing isn't finished yet, is it?

*pops out of lurking*

Most, if not all of the writing (except for future DLC) is probably done already. Writing is one of the first things done before the development phase starts.

Ah, thanks. I didn't see your response sooner, and I posted the question to the thread in Inquisition that mentioned her leaving, oops! lol.

[Jean]

I feel bad that people think Cullen is too old to possibly be a romance option.

I don't consider mid-30s old and I'm a far ways off from that myself.

[Chiantirose1982]

R2s Muse wrote...

So, here's the next thing that doesn't make sense. Why fight both Wardens and Venatori? Which faction is the actual enemy there...? Or could the devs have just called up the Venatori as a demo in the desert outside Adamant? Kind of like how the qunari dude in the trailer doesn't actually appear at the weird owl lightning fortress.

Coming back to Corypheus. I really think that Legacy is kind of the same as Arrival or Lair of the Shadow Broker dlc for ME. It happens no matter if you played it or not.

So Cory does his thing with the Wardens (posses or charm w/e he does) He also was a Tevinter, right? Wouldn't a power hungry Magister just squee at the idea at having one of the old Magisters that entered the Golden City at his side? That might explain why we fight Wardens and Tevinter.

Modifié par Chiantirose1982, 17 août 2013 - 08:25 .

[ThePuppetWithNoStrings]

Batteries wrote...

I feel bad that people think Cullen is too old to possibly be a romance option.

I don't consider mid-30s old and I'm a far ways off from that myself.

Too old? WTF? I'd prefer LIs in their thirties. But then again I'm a bit weird and have always preferred older men.

But seriously? People think Cullen is too old to romance? ... I hate to bring up Mass Effect in the Dragon Age forums but wasn't Kaidan like 35 in ME3? and Garrus and Thane older than that? (I know they're aliens but still, Thane had a teenage son, and Garrus described himself as being "old" (not elderly but no spring chicken), and they were popular romances).

[Dirgegun]

 My lord that combat looks handsome! And that roll pleased me to no end. Please, please, please let every class have that roll, Bioware. I would love for my mages to be able to dodge like that rather than being all "Oh crap it's close, run!"

All this speculation is really interesting and fun to see too! I'm going to watch the video again and see if I can't add to it at all!

What I can add, though, is that I don't believe any of the enemies we see outside of the keep/castle/outpost/base/whatever are related to that particular area, considering Mr. Stiksma was just pulling them out of his toolset to show them off. I really like what he said about the warrior's harpoon too! Especially about being careful about using it against enemies enfused with lightning and such.

Did anyone else think of Scorpion from Mortal Kombat while watching that part, though? "GET OVER HERE." 

Modifié par Dirgegun, 17 août 2013 - 09:47 .

[Chiantirose1982]

ThePuppetWithNoStrings wrote...

Batteries wrote...

I feel bad that people think Cullen is too old to possibly be a romance option.

I don't consider mid-30s old and I'm a far ways off from that myself.

Too old? WTF? I'd prefer LIs in their thirties. But then again I'm a bit weird and have always preferred older men.

But seriously? People think Cullen is too old to romance? ... I hate to bring up Mass Effect in the Dragon Age forums but wasn't Kaidan like 35 in ME3? and Garrus and Thane older than that? (I know they're aliens but still, Thane had a teenage son, and Garrus described himself as being "old" (not elderly but no spring chicken), and they were popular romances).

I love older men, I really do. I had a crush on Sean Connery for the longest time

So older men?

[Dirgegun]

Chiantirose1982 wrote...

ThePuppetWithNoStrings wrote...

Batteries wrote...

I feel bad that people think Cullen is too old to possibly be a romance option.

I don't consider mid-30s old and I'm a far ways off from that myself.

Too old? WTF? I'd prefer LIs in their thirties. But then again I'm a bit weird and have always preferred older men.

But seriously? People think Cullen is too old to romance? ... I hate to bring up Mass Effect in the Dragon Age forums but wasn't Kaidan like 35 in ME3? and Garrus and Thane older than that? (I know they're aliens but still, Thane had a teenage son, and Garrus described himself as being "old" (not elderly but no spring chicken), and they were popular romances).

I love older men, I really do. I had a crush on Sean Connery for the longest time

So older men?

I am all for older men too. 

Though it really is silly that some think Cullen is too old to be an LI. He's younger than my brother and I sure as hell don't consider my brother an old man yet.

[Scroll]

So after reading everything you guys have dug up during the night its Speculation Time! 
We start at the warden fortress of Adamant. There is where the veil is thin and that's where the breach in the veil will happen. Right on top of the Abyssal Rift! 

Flemeth will save us.
 
Our other companions will show up there AFTER the rip in the Veil, because they have business there. Cassandra is looking for the Hero of Ferelden (a warden!) Vivienne is traveling there to look into the research about reversing tranquility. Varric is following Cassandra around as a hired hand (though he might be doing business). 
Wild speculation: This place, a really old fortress upon really old ruins (?) on the side of the abyssal rift, could have been base built by Inquisition after the first blight and then the Wardens took over and built Adamant on top of that during the second blight?

Here we meet Inquisitioner ghosts, we find stuff about the original Inquisition and it makes us decide that a group like that should be reformed to deal with the threat. 

The Lion fortress can be Adamant fortress. The rift can be on the other side/angle. (Edit: Looking at the guardsman fight you can see there's a rift and a big huge moon  ) The lion has scaffold around it. Some cult has taken over the place, building the lion? 

I think the developer only loaded up the Venatori to show it as an example of an enemy type and how to combat. 
I think the lion fortress is not the castle on the mountain from the concept art talking about our home base. That home base is also not Adamant. 

Jennifer Hepler went on maternity leave around a year ago, so I don't think she has done as much as the other writers. Her work has already been passed on. It seems they swap around sometimes. 

Modifié par Scr0ll, 17 août 2013 - 10:25 .