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[R2s Muse]

PhantomGinger wrote...

ag99 wrote...

iPoohCupCakes wrote...

I just think people like to talk crap. They'll talk crap about anything and try their best to justify their bi*ching. It's a full time job for them.

LOL apperantly so .. I think that when they run out of things to argue about  they probably think

"hmm  i think it would be amusing to make a Cullen thread and have some "fun" with the cullen fans, surely they will revolt over our negative comments about him and come and RAWR all over the place"

personally  to me this is getting very old and annoying  i think they need a new hobby or something or go out more

That's all they're doing. It's almost amusing, really. We have been given some good info, and people are focused on their hate for Cullen. Oh well. 

Speaking of the books/comics, I'm setting aside money to buy them. I'm especially interested in the new book coming out next year, The Masked Empire. 

Oh man... saving this gif!!!  Awesome!! That may have to be the response to all the new cullen fanhate threads. LOL

Also looking forward to Masked Empire. Def wondering how much we may learn of the DA:I world state!

[LolaLei]

That thread has finally been closed down. Man, this place needs more moderators.

[R2s Muse]

[LolaLei]

MAKER NOOOOOOOOOOOO:

http://social.biowar.../index/17165397

LMAO!

[Xilizhra]

Reposting from a different thread:

brushyourteeth wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

So since you don't like Cullen as a character, your main attack on his character is "he has lots of fangirls."

And because his fans are supposedly all girls, that must mean he has no merit.

Girls don't understand anything except for romance and good looks. There can't possibly be anything there that you just didn't see in his character.

It's shallow because you don't like it.

If fans have been interested in Cullen since the word go in the first game and his popularity has only grown, maybe it's because there's something there. Maybe the writers hit a chord with the fanbase that you just don't understand, and maybe it's okay that they do and you don't.

He was barely what you'd call average looking in DA:O, after all, and there have always been better looking characters with less popularity. In both games.

Meanwhile, there are fans of both genders already drooling over Vivienne, who we've only gotten the most cursory of glances at. And that's okay, because it will be mostly men romancing her. The reasons aren't important. Guys will like it, and that's enough.


... but enough thinking. That was tiresome. I almost forgot my place. I think I'll freshen up my makeup and go back to squeeing in silence and leave the logic to the menfolk. I'd almost forgotten that I'm supposed to be an object of desire rather than have any of my own.

To be completely fair, I think some people who dislike Cullen on his own merits and can't imagine what anyone would see in him are being lumped in with some of the sexists you've mentioned here.

I agree. That's just not the general tone of the conversation so far.

I've always appreciated your logic behind not liking the character, Xilizhra, and your kindness toward a fan base that's just having fun -- which is what the games are for, after all.

It's an intriguing quirk that the Cullen fanbase does not tend to approve of all of his actions, as the ones who do tend to more be in the general templar camp. Those who like Cullen specifically, I've noticed, are more enamored of his potential than of the current state of the character.

It also helps that Cullen's fanbase tends to be one of the more even-tempered and polite ones. Moreso, I admit, than myself and my radical mage cohorts.

[CrazyRah]

It was during one of the attacks on Cullen and on this very fanbase a few months ago that i took time to look deeply at Cullen and ended up feeling that he got a lot of potential that i want to see happen one way or another. Cullen can walk so many paths and that's what caught my interest the most.That i also started to like the fanbase itself is just awesome.

There will always be people that will feel the need to hate or dislike something strongly for whatever reason they feel is worth it. I can't be bothered by it and will do as i've always done, smirk and move on!

Modifié par CrazyRah, 18 août 2013 - 01:39 .

[Shades_Of_Pale]

LolaLei wrote...

MAKER NOOOOOOOOOOOO:

http://social.biowar.../index/17165397

LMAO!

LOLOLOL!

[Xilizhra]

CrazyRah wrote...

It was during one of the attacks on Cullen and on this very fanbase a few months ago that i took time to look deeply at Cullen and ended up feeling that he got a lot of potential that i want to see happen one way or another. Cullen can walk so many paths and that's what caught my interest the most.That i also started to like the fanbase itself is just awesome.

There will always be people that will feel the need to hate or dislike something strongly for whatever reason they feel is worth it. I can't be bothered by it and will do as i've always done, smirk and move on!

Keep in mind, though, that Cullen has done a great deal worthy of hate. Separate the knee-jerk ones from those with legitimate grievances.

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

That thread has finally been closed down. Man, this place needs more moderators.

Sooo..... what exactly do you think Allan means by this:

Anyways, there is already a thread on Cullen and I'm not keen on groups
of people making remarks that will probably solicit further responses.


?

Meaning: talk about Cullen in the "buzz cut" thread?  or Cullen fans, get back in the  DA2 Cullen forum...?

And.... groups of people soliciting further responses??  Um, what? You mean... posters, um, posting? Or... is he seeing the Cullen fans descending like Flight of Valkyries??

Modifié par R2s Muse, 18 août 2013 - 01:44 .

[Adela]

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

That thread has finally been closed down. Man, this place needs more moderators.

Sooo..... what exactly do you think Allan means by this:

Anyways, there is already a thread on Cullen and I'm not keen on groups
of people making remarks that will probably solicit further responses.


?

Meaning: talk about Cullen in the "buzz cut" thread?  or Cullen fans, get back in the  DA2 Cullen forum...?

i think he ment Cullen fans, get back in the  DA2 Cullen forum

[LolaLei]

Xilizhra wrote...

CrazyRah wrote...

It was during one of the attacks on Cullen and on this very fanbase a few months ago that i took time to look deeply at Cullen and ended up feeling that he got a lot of potential that i want to see happen one way or another. Cullen can walk so many paths and that's what caught my interest the most.That i also started to like the fanbase itself is just awesome.

There will always be people that will feel the need to hate or dislike something strongly for whatever reason they feel is worth it. I can't be bothered by it and will do as i've always done, smirk and move on!

Keep in mind, though, that Cullen has done a great deal worthy of hate. Separate the knee-jerk ones from those with legitimate grievances.

I just wish it was possible to have sensible discussions about his not-so-great personality traits and actions elsewhere in the forum, without it always resulting in people attacking his fans or assuming that we like him because he's "hot" or "had a crush on the female mage Warden blah blah blah".

[LolaLei]

ag99 wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

That thread has finally been closed down. Man, this place needs more moderators.

Sooo..... what exactly do you think Allan means by this:

Anyways, there is already a thread on Cullen and I'm not keen on groups
of people making remarks that will probably solicit further responses.


?

Meaning: talk about Cullen in the "buzz cut" thread?  or Cullen fans, get back in the  DA2 Cullen forum...?

i think he ment Cullen fans, get back in the  DA2 Cullen forum

Meh, who gives a sh!t. If they're gonna provoke us then he should be prepared for that fact that some of his fans are going to respond.

[R2s Muse]

Xilizhra wrote...

CrazyRah wrote...

It was during one of the attacks on Cullen and on this very fanbase a few months ago that i took time to look deeply at Cullen and ended up feeling that he got a lot of potential that i want to see happen one way or another. Cullen can walk so many paths and that's what caught my interest the most.That i also started to like the fanbase itself is just awesome.

There will always be people that will feel the need to hate or dislike something strongly for whatever reason they feel is worth it. I can't be bothered by it and will do as i've always done, smirk and move on!

Keep in mind, though, that Cullen has done a great deal worthy of hate. Separate the knee-jerk ones from those with legitimate grievances.

Yes, but you also know Xil, that the most offensive of those Cullen hate threads are the ones that use the Cullen fans as a whetstone to sharpen their sexism. Cullen fans must all be women, ergo he must be unworthy as they are.

[LolaLei]

Hehehe "Flight of Valkyries", now I've got the tune from Wizard of Oz going through my head where all the monkeys fly off to capture Dorothy!

[R2s Muse]

ag99 wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

That thread has finally been closed down. Man, this place needs more moderators.

Sooo..... what exactly do you think Allan means by this:

Anyways, there is already a thread on Cullen and I'm not keen on groups
of people making remarks that will probably solicit further responses.


?

Meaning: talk about Cullen in the "buzz cut" thread?  or Cullen fans, get back in the  DA2 Cullen forum...?

i think he ment Cullen fans, get back in the  DA2 Cullen forum

If that is true... I actually find that kind of insulting. A dev actually telling everyone that you should go talk about Cullen back on the DA2 forums...? He's not worthy of the DA:I forums, apparently unlike all other rumored companions...? I mean we have our own reasons for staying here. The inappropropriateness of talking about Cullen in the DA:I forums is NOT one of them.

Modifié par R2s Muse, 18 août 2013 - 01:48 .

[LolaLei]

R2s Muse wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

CrazyRah wrote...

It was during one of the attacks on Cullen and on this very fanbase a few months ago that i took time to look deeply at Cullen and ended up feeling that he got a lot of potential that i want to see happen one way or another. Cullen can walk so many paths and that's what caught my interest the most.That i also started to like the fanbase itself is just awesome.

There will always be people that will feel the need to hate or dislike something strongly for whatever reason they feel is worth it. I can't be bothered by it and will do as i've always done, smirk and move on!

Keep in mind, though, that Cullen has done a great deal worthy of hate. Separate the knee-jerk ones from those with legitimate grievances.

Yes, but you also know Xil, that the most offensive of those Cullen hate threads are the ones that use the Cullen fans as a whetstone to sharpen their sexism. Cullen fans must all be women, ergo he must be unworthy as they are.

Bet we could probably kick seven bales of sh!t out of most of those basement dwellers anyway.

Sorry about the agression, all this video making is getting me pent up! 

Modifié par LolaLei, 18 août 2013 - 01:48 .

[Adela]

R2s Muse wrote...

ag99 wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

That thread has finally been closed down. Man, this place needs more moderators.

Sooo..... what exactly do you think Allan means by this:

Anyways, there is already a thread on Cullen and I'm not keen on groups
of people making remarks that will probably solicit further responses.


?

Meaning: talk about Cullen in the "buzz cut" thread?  or Cullen fans, get back in the  DA2 Cullen forum...?

i think he ment Cullen fans, get back in the  DA2 Cullen forum

If that is true... I actually find that kind of insulting. A dev actually telling everyone that you should go talk about Cullen back on the DA2 forums...? He's not worthy of the DA:I forums, apparently unlike all other rumored companions...? I mean we have our own reasons for staying here. The inappropropriateness of talking about Cullen in the DA:I forums is NOT one of them.

its porbably because it always attracks haters and they dont want drama in the forums

[Xilizhra]

LolaLei wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

CrazyRah wrote...

It was during one of the attacks on Cullen and on this very fanbase a few months ago that i took time to look deeply at Cullen and ended up feeling that he got a lot of potential that i want to see happen one way or another. Cullen can walk so many paths and that's what caught my interest the most.That i also started to like the fanbase itself is just awesome.

There will always be people that will feel the need to hate or dislike something strongly for whatever reason they feel is worth it. I can't be bothered by it and will do as i've always done, smirk and move on!

Keep in mind, though, that Cullen has done a great deal worthy of hate. Separate the knee-jerk ones from those with legitimate grievances.

I just wish it was possible to have sensible discussions about his not-so-great personality traits and actions elsewhere in the forum, without it always resulting in people attacking his fans or assuming that we like him because he's "hot" or "had a crush on the female mage Warden blah blah blah".

Far be it from me to defend lines of thought that are inherently sexist... but I wonder if Cullen's ever actually done anything worthy of admiration.

[LolaLei]

charlottecorday wrote...

Just ignore the threads guys, I think linking them here and venturing into them tend to make it worse. Most of the time I just like to forget the main forums exist unless there's legitimate news or something lol.

That's the only reason why I'm in there, I'm gathering up info for this Game Informer summary video.

[LolaLei]

Xilizhra wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

CrazyRah wrote...

It was during one of the attacks on Cullen and on this very fanbase a few months ago that i took time to look deeply at Cullen and ended up feeling that he got a lot of potential that i want to see happen one way or another. Cullen can walk so many paths and that's what caught my interest the most.That i also started to like the fanbase itself is just awesome.

There will always be people that will feel the need to hate or dislike something strongly for whatever reason they feel is worth it. I can't be bothered by it and will do as i've always done, smirk and move on!

Keep in mind, though, that Cullen has done a great deal worthy of hate. Separate the knee-jerk ones from those with legitimate grievances.

I just wish it was possible to have sensible discussions about his not-so-great personality traits and actions elsewhere in the forum, without it always resulting in people attacking his fans or assuming that we like him because he's "hot" or "had a crush on the female mage Warden blah blah blah".

Far be it from me to defend lines of thought that are inherently sexist... but I wonder if Cullen's ever actually done anything worthy of admiration.

Without there being a possible/potential motive behind it? Hard to say, perhaps we'll find out one way or another in DAI.

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

charlottecorday wrote...

Just ignore the threads guys, I think linking them here and venturing into them tend to make it worse. Most of the time I just like to forget the main forums exist unless there's legitimate news or something lol.

That's the only reason why I'm in there, I'm gathering up info for this Game Informer summary video.

*snicker* They posted my evil Cullen with cat pic in that buzz cut thread. LOL

[Shades_Of_Pale]

I noticed that if I look myself up using ShadesOfPale, most of the pictures on google are half naked Cullens, LOL. My bsn profile overthrows any of my other ones it seems.

[R2s Muse]

Xilizhra wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

CrazyRah wrote...

It was during one of the attacks on Cullen and on this very fanbase a few months ago that i took time to look deeply at Cullen and ended up feeling that he got a lot of potential that i want to see happen one way or another. Cullen can walk so many paths and that's what caught my interest the most.That i also started to like the fanbase itself is just awesome.

There will always be people that will feel the need to hate or dislike something strongly for whatever reason they feel is worth it. I can't be bothered by it and will do as i've always done, smirk and move on!

Keep in mind, though, that Cullen has done a great deal worthy of hate. Separate the knee-jerk ones from those with legitimate grievances.

I just wish it was possible to have sensible discussions about his not-so-great personality traits and actions elsewhere in the forum, without it always resulting in people attacking his fans or assuming that we like him because he's "hot" or "had a crush on the female mage Warden blah blah blah".

Far be it from me to defend lines of thought that are inherently sexist... but I wonder if Cullen's ever actually done anything worthy of admiration.

Well, "worthy of admiration" is of course in the eye of the beholder. I personally find several things he's done admirable, such as standing up to Meredith and overcoming his training to start thinking for himself. I also think he's done things that are less admirable, like spouting hurtful bigotry.

Thing about being a Cullen fan... gotta let folks hate what they're going to hate... unless it's hating on the fans. That I won't abide.