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R2s Muse wrote...

PhantomGinger wrote...

berelinde wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

LOL, if my character ever said "jeepers" I'd be sending her/him off the nearest cliff, LOL!

It's hard to come up with good Thedosian swear words that aren't based on Andrasteism, so I decided to go with something ridiculous instead.:lol:

@neo: Huh. Must have missed that discussion. It makes sense... but it doesn't make it easier. Even if the Inquisition emblem came first and the others were derived from it, we as players saw the other emblems first. The association was already made. Plus, you'd think they'd want to get away from that whole "Reign of Terror" association most civilians are going to make. In the bad old days, the Inquisition was pretty horrible, Brother Genitivi's "World of Thedas" PR speech notwithstanding. I don't imagine the inquisitors of old got a warm welcome when they rolled into a village and arrested everyone who might possibly be a threat to society. All it takes is one or two rotten apples to decide that selling short weight on ale constitutes a "threat to society" and public opinion turns irrevocably against them. But then, what's a hero without opposition?


That would be really interesting - could be one of the choices we make. In the video they said, of course it may just be an example: "do you burn down the village or not?" We could see that village as a threat, and instead of questioning everyone we just burn it to the ground.

A bit of a nonsequitur, but something I found interesting. Someone asked Aaryn Flynn on twitter about that statement, saying it sounded like the PC would have to be super harsh. Aaryn clarified that a better example would be a hostage situation: Do you save every hostage or would you be willing to live with the death of a few?


Can I have the link for that, I can't find it and I'm gathering info, lol.

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LolaLei wrote...

LOL, if my character ever said "jeepers" I'd be sending her/him off the nearest cliff, LOL!


I was about to say, before I saw your response, that I damn well better have the option to say "Jeepers" in this game :lol:

R2s Muse wrote...

Personally, tho, I also have faith that the devs will be true to their word, given how vociferously they're emphasizing it, that the new Inquis. won't work for the Chantry. 


Same. I have no fear the devs will make a game I won't love in just about every way. It's just the word that grates. And words are kind of my livelihood, so I notice them.

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So my own emerging headcanon, until we have actual information(!), is that the Chantry itself is split into factions, pro- and con-Justinia, and that these lines generally also fall along pro- and con-mages/Circles lines. The pro-Justinia faction could even be rather small: Justinia, Cass, Leliana. Then... BOOM! Badness™ happens, Justinia dies, sky fractures, all hell poureth out. Cass and Leliana are standing there, holding the bag, without core Chantry support, trying to figure out what to do. Ostracized already anyway, they break off from the Chantry and form their own group... co-opting the ancient Inquisition moniker to give their "upstart" group legitimacy.


This is exactly what I was imagining would happen!

Only thing that bothered me about that is I think Cullen might be on the other side :?

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We should have a permanent chat room... for times like this when I have a few minutes to spare and just want to chat Cullen and DA stuff. Yes this request is pretty much all about me. *fabulous smile*

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:D PAX Prime 2013

Friday – August 30th
1:30pm – 2:30pm: Dragon Age: Inquisition – Crafting and Customization

Saturday – August 31st
3:00pm – 4:00pm: Dragon Age: Inquisition – Tactical Combat
4:00pm – 5:00pm: Dragon Age: Inquisition – Making Your Mark on the Dragon Age

Sunday – September 1st
12:00pm – 1:00pm: Dragon Age: Inquisition – Playable Races

Monday – September 2nd
4:00pm – 5:00pm: Dragon Age: Inquisition – Behind the Scenes

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I'm hoping some of those panels will be taped.

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berelinde wrote...

I'm hoping some of those panels will be taped.

Me to!! I love watching them.

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12:00pm – 1:00pm: Dragon Age: Inquisition – Playable Races


Perhaps we'll see CC?!?!?!

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motomotogirl wrote...

12:00pm – 1:00pm: Dragon Age: Inquisition – Playable Races


Perhaps we'll see CC?!?!?!



That would be the perfect opportunity to show us a female PC!

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LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

PhantomGinger wrote...

berelinde wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

LOL, if my character ever said "jeepers" I'd be sending her/him off the nearest cliff, LOL!

It's hard to come up with good Thedosian swear words that aren't based on Andrasteism, so I decided to go with something ridiculous instead.:lol:

@neo: Huh. Must have missed that discussion. It makes sense... but it doesn't make it easier. Even if the Inquisition emblem came first and the others were derived from it, we as players saw the other emblems first. The association was already made. Plus, you'd think they'd want to get away from that whole "Reign of Terror" association most civilians are going to make. In the bad old days, the Inquisition was pretty horrible, Brother Genitivi's "World of Thedas" PR speech notwithstanding. I don't imagine the inquisitors of old got a warm welcome when they rolled into a village and arrested everyone who might possibly be a threat to society. All it takes is one or two rotten apples to decide that selling short weight on ale constitutes a "threat to society" and public opinion turns irrevocably against them. But then, what's a hero without opposition?


That would be really interesting - could be one of the choices we make. In the video they said, of course it may just be an example: "do you burn down the village or not?" We could see that village as a threat, and instead of questioning everyone we just burn it to the ground.

A bit of a nonsequitur, but something I found interesting. Someone asked Aaryn Flynn on twitter about that statement, saying it sounded like the PC would have to be super harsh. Aaryn clarified that a better example would be a hostage situation: Do you save every hostage or would you be willing to live with the death of a few?


Can I have the link for that, I can't find it and I'm gathering info, lol.

Surely.

https://twitter.com/...828812839612417

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R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

PhantomGinger wrote...

berelinde wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

LOL, if my character ever said "jeepers" I'd be sending her/him off the nearest cliff, LOL!

It's hard to come up with good Thedosian swear words that aren't based on Andrasteism, so I decided to go with something ridiculous instead.:lol:

@neo: Huh. Must have missed that discussion. It makes sense... but it doesn't make it easier. Even if the Inquisition emblem came first and the others were derived from it, we as players saw the other emblems first. The association was already made. Plus, you'd think they'd want to get away from that whole "Reign of Terror" association most civilians are going to make. In the bad old days, the Inquisition was pretty horrible, Brother Genitivi's "World of Thedas" PR speech notwithstanding. I don't imagine the inquisitors of old got a warm welcome when they rolled into a village and arrested everyone who might possibly be a threat to society. All it takes is one or two rotten apples to decide that selling short weight on ale constitutes a "threat to society" and public opinion turns irrevocably against them. But then, what's a hero without opposition?


That would be really interesting - could be one of the choices we make. In the video they said, of course it may just be an example: "do you burn down the village or not?" We could see that village as a threat, and instead of questioning everyone we just burn it to the ground.

A bit of a nonsequitur, but something I found interesting. Someone asked Aaryn Flynn on twitter about that statement, saying it sounded like the PC would have to be super harsh. Aaryn clarified that a better example would be a hostage situation: Do you save every hostage or would you be willing to live with the death of a few?


Can I have the link for that, I can't find it and I'm gathering info, lol.

Surely.

https://twitter.com/...828812839612417


Ta!

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berelinde wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

12:00pm – 1:00pm: Dragon Age: Inquisition – Playable Races


Perhaps we'll see CC?!?!?!



That would be the perfect opportunity to show us a female PC!


Or perhaps during the Customization-panel. But I also hope to see something with a FemInq  :wizard:

Friday – August 30th
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I'm thinking that the "customization" part will be more about changing gear around. And didn't somebody say that the reason we were shown male armor was because the female versions aren't ready? I mean, sure, if they've got a set of female armor ready to show in all its upgrades and iterations, I'd love to see it! But I wouldn't be surprised if they hold off on that part for a while.

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berelinde wrote...

I'm thinking that the "customization" part will be more about changing gear around. And didn't somebody say that the reason we were shown male armor was because the female versions aren't ready? I mean, sure, if they've got a set of female armor ready to show in all its upgrades and iterations, I'd love to see it! But I wouldn't be surprised if they hold off on that part for a while.


I'm hoping that in the midst of all the male versions of armors they might perhaps show one or two on a female form. Not expecting any miracles =)     I would however be happy if they mentioned the possibility to play as a female if they rattle off all the things that you can change as race and so forth. I take what I can get pretty much.

Currently it's a feast of DA:I-info. I do not look forward to this month ending.

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SilentK wrote...

I'm hoping that in the midst of all the male versions of armors they might perhaps show one or two on a female form. Not expecting any miracles =)     I would however be happy if they mentioned the possibility to play as a female if they rattle off all the things that you can change as race and so forth. I take what I can get pretty much. 


Isn't it great being an after thought? We're only half the f***ing world population. It's like sometimes I feel my female body parts literally make me lesser in the eyes of some. Yeah, this is a post-feminist world... yeah right. If I'm good enough to give you my money, how about treating me like the rest of your customers.

/rant :?

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motomotogirl wrote...

SilentK wrote...

I'm hoping that in the midst of all the male versions of armors they might perhaps show one or two on a female form. Not expecting any miracles =)     I would however be happy if they mentioned the possibility to play as a female if they rattle off all the things that you can change as race and so forth. I take what I can get pretty much. 


Isn't it great being an after thought? We're only half the f***ing world population. It's like sometimes I feel my female body parts literally make me lesser in the eyes of some. Yeah, this is a post-feminist world... yeah right. If I'm good enough to give you my money, how about treating me like the rest of your customers.

/rant :?


It's weird, I've never had that problem at all. Well, at least not yet anyway.

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motomotogirl wrote...

SilentK wrote...

I'm hoping that in the midst of all the male versions of armors they might perhaps show one or two on a female form. Not expecting any miracles =)     I would however be happy if they mentioned the possibility to play as a female if they rattle off all the things that you can change as race and so forth. I take what I can get pretty much. 


Isn't it great being an after thought? We're only half the f***ing world population. It's like sometimes I feel my female body parts literally make me lesser in the eyes of some. Yeah, this is a post-feminist world... yeah right. If I'm good enough to give you my money, how about treating me like the rest of your customers.

/rant :?


I know how you feel -- in real life as well as in the video game community. It's annoying because there are a ton of games I would like to play, had they the option of a female protagonist OR better female characters -- ones that are relatable and three-dimensional, not sex objects. As for BioWare, it's *mostly* just a lack of marketing of their female protagonists that irks me -- and how they treated the whole "FemShep Beauty Pageant" and her default look. :| why put a female character's appearance up to a vote?

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carine wrote...

I know how you feel -- in real life as well as in the video game community. It's annoying because there are a ton of games I would like to play, had they the option of a female protagonist OR better female characters -- ones that are relatable and three-dimensional, not sex objects. As for BioWare, it's *mostly* just a lack of marketing of their female protagonists that irks me -- and how they treated the whole "FemShep Beauty Pageant" and her default look. :| why put a female character's appearance up to a vote?


It's hard not to let it get you down =] I was (and still am) a huge fan of the asari; they just fascinate me and struck me as quite the feminist concept. But then I watched a video of how they were created, and it seemed like the guy's biggest concern was that they be "alien but still sexy." Right, okay! Geez.

As for Dragon Age, especially when it comes to DA2, they've been 100% awesome in terms of gender equality. But the marketing has some issues... as they're now aware of, thanks to our complaining xD But it's sad to see female fans say stuff like "I'll take what I can get" and "I'm not expecting a miracle." So sad! 

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Anyway... DAI, rah rah rah!!! :wub: :D I'm sorry, everyone; I didn't mean to go on a rant and alienate the thread. I'm honestly very excited about that race selection panel!! We could get more detailed looks at an elven and dwarven PC!!

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Wiedzmin182009 wrote...

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Join @BioWare devs at #Gamescom Friday/Saturday from 3-6pm for behind-the-scenes info, and see some nugs! Plus Heroes of Dragon Age mobile game demo! #DragonAge #MassEffect

Finally! LOL A long-overdue nug sighting!

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motomotogirl wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

So my own emerging headcanon, until we have actual information(!), is that the Chantry itself is split into factions, pro- and con-Justinia, and that these lines generally also fall along pro- and con-mages/Circles lines. The pro-Justinia faction could even be rather small: Justinia, Cass, Leliana. Then... BOOM! Badness™ happens, Justinia dies, sky fractures, all hell poureth out. Cass and Leliana are standing there, holding the bag, without core Chantry support, trying to figure out what to do. Ostracized already anyway, they break off from the Chantry and form their own group... co-opting the ancient Inquisition moniker to give their "upstart" group legitimacy.


This is exactly what I was imagining would happen!

Only thing that bothered me about that is I think Cullen might be on the other side :?

:) In my world... he's in there with them, holding the bag, as it were... :bandit:

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Wiedzmin182009 wrote...

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Join @BioWare devs at #Gamescom Friday/Saturday from 3-6pm for behind-the-scenes info, and see some nugs! Plus Heroes of Dragon Age mobile game demo! #DragonAge #MassEffect


Ooh, a mobile game! I hope they have it for Android and not just iPhone/i/Pad. Could you ask, Wiedzmin? I don't have Twitter.

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Chanda wrote...

Wiedzmin182009 wrote...

BioWare ‏@bioware

Join @BioWare devs at #Gamescom Friday/Saturday from 3-6pm for behind-the-scenes info, and see some nugs! Plus Heroes of Dragon Age mobile game demo! #DragonAge #MassEffect


Ooh, a mobile game! I hope they have it for Android and not just iPhone/i/Pad. Could you ask, Wiedzmin? I don't have Twitter.


It just says mobile/cell, so presumably it's available for all of them. 

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Chanda wrote...

Wiedzmin182009 wrote...

BioWare ‏@bioware

Join @BioWare devs at #Gamescom Friday/Saturday from 3-6pm for behind-the-scenes info, and see some nugs! Plus Heroes of Dragon Age mobile game demo! #DragonAge #MassEffect


Ooh, a mobile game! I hope they have it for Android and not just iPhone/i/Pad. Could you ask, Wiedzmin? I don't have Twitter.


For Android and iOS :devil:

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Wiedzmin182009 wrote...

Chanda wrote...

Wiedzmin182009 wrote...

BioWare ‏@bioware

Join @BioWare devs at #Gamescom Friday/Saturday from 3-6pm for behind-the-scenes info, and see some nugs! Plus Heroes of Dragon Age mobile game demo! #DragonAge #MassEffect


Ooh, a mobile game! I hope they have it for Android and not just iPhone/i/Pad. Could you ask, Wiedzmin? I don't have Twitter.


For Android and iOS :devil:


Thanks! :D